With teachers vaccinated, why are we still talking about hybrid, and not a full return to school?

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Anonymous wrote:The CDC is supposed to issue new guidance on Wednesday regarding the opening of schools, hopefully addressing the 6 ft distance thing. You can eat in a restaurant without 6 ft between people.


Indoor dining is one of the most dangerous things you can do right now, so yeah, sure, let’s emulate that.

You people are bonkers.


Well if the CDC says that schools can have less than 6 feet distancing, are you going to say that they are incorrect?


If a frog had wings it wouldn’t bump its ass when it hops. We can “if” all day long, but it doesn’t change the fact that indoor dining is one of the main causes of spread. Y’all are slowly trying to take every mitigation factor away and won’t stop until it’s 5 days, unspaced with no/optional masks.


Yep. I won’t stop until we’re back in normal school. You’re right there!


DP. It is because of attitudes like yours PP that we can't get this pandemic under control. You need to get help for your anxiety so that you can be more calm and reasonable, and you will be able to understand the science behind the CDC directives, mitigation like social distancing and masks, and those things that help keep society safe.


Seriously. The rabid reopening people like to mock people advocating for mitigation measures, claiming they are anxious basement dwellers. To me the rabid reopeners look like the ones truly struggling with anxiety. They simply cannot accept that this is out of their control. They are just crumbling in the face of this adversity.


I'm not that PP, but I think this is one of the grossest mischaracterizations out there. I am not in any way "rabid." I know there are some people on the fringe in whichever direction ("there is no such thing as covid" vs "I will never leave my house again"). But I want my kids to be able to attend school, in person, with a teacher. After nearly a year of this, I do accept that much of this is out of my control. I have also done what I could: come in to work every day, in person, in healthcare; volunteered to do COVID testing and set up vaccination clinics in my (very few) off hours, said "no" to virtually everything my kids might normally (reasonably) want to do last summer: no birthday parties, no sleepovers, no playdates, no pool. But at a certain point, this is just absurd. People can go to the gym, the bar, the f*&%ing Super Bowl, and my kids are stuck on an iPad for 18 months? We have failed, folks! Not JUST at the Federal level, but all the way down!
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Anonymous wrote:The CDC is supposed to issue new guidance on Wednesday regarding the opening of schools, hopefully addressing the 6 ft distance thing. You can eat in a restaurant without 6 ft between people.


Indoor dining is one of the most dangerous things you can do right now, so yeah, sure, let’s emulate that.

You people are bonkers.


Well if the CDC says that schools can have less than 6 feet distancing, are you going to say that they are incorrect?


If a frog had wings it wouldn’t bump its ass when it hops. We can “if” all day long, but it doesn’t change the fact that indoor dining is one of the main causes of spread. Y’all are slowly trying to take every mitigation factor away and won’t stop until it’s 5 days, unspaced with no/optional masks.


Yep. I won’t stop until we’re back in normal school. You’re right there!


DP. It is because of attitudes like yours PP that we can't get this pandemic under control. You need to get help for your anxiety so that you can be more calm and reasonable, and you will be able to understand the science behind the CDC directives, mitigation like social distancing and masks, and those things that help keep society safe.


Seriously. The rabid reopening people like to mock people advocating for mitigation measures, claiming they are anxious basement dwellers. To me the rabid reopeners look like the ones truly struggling with anxiety. They simply cannot accept that this is out of their control. They are just crumbling in the face of this adversity.


The fact that you’ve blindly accepted a year+ of closures followed by some indeterminate amount of time of “hybrid,” “social distancing,” and whatever else, means that you’ve given up. Most of us refuse to give up.
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Anonymous wrote:The CDC is supposed to issue new guidance on Wednesday regarding the opening of schools, hopefully addressing the 6 ft distance thing. You can eat in a restaurant without 6 ft between people.


Indoor dining is one of the most dangerous things you can do right now, so yeah, sure, let’s emulate that.

You people are bonkers.


Well if the CDC says that schools can have less than 6 feet distancing, are you going to say that they are incorrect?


If a frog had wings it wouldn’t bump its ass when it hops. We can “if” all day long, but it doesn’t change the fact that indoor dining is one of the main causes of spread. Y’all are slowly trying to take every mitigation factor away and won’t stop until it’s 5 days, unspaced with no/optional masks.


Yep. I won’t stop until we’re back in normal school. You’re right there!


DP. It is because of attitudes like yours PP that we can't get this pandemic under control. You need to get help for your anxiety so that you can be more calm and reasonable, and you will be able to understand the science behind the CDC directives, mitigation like social distancing and masks, and those things that help keep society safe.


Seriously. The rabid reopening people like to mock people advocating for mitigation measures, claiming they are anxious basement dwellers. To me the rabid reopeners look like the ones truly struggling with anxiety. They simply cannot accept that this is out of their control. They are just crumbling in the face of this adversity.


The fact that you’ve blindly accepted a year+ of closures followed by some indeterminate amount of time of “hybrid,” “social distancing,” and whatever else, means that you’ve given up. Most of us refuse to give up.


DP Good luck with that. I just know that strength and persistence won’t protect my family from the virus - we need the vaccine. It’s out of my control so we’ll wait patiently for life to return to normal.
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Anonymous wrote:The CDC is supposed to issue new guidance on Wednesday regarding the opening of schools, hopefully addressing the 6 ft distance thing. You can eat in a restaurant without 6 ft between people.


Indoor dining is one of the most dangerous things you can do right now, so yeah, sure, let’s emulate that.

You people are bonkers.


Well if the CDC says that schools can have less than 6 feet distancing, are you going to say that they are incorrect?


If a frog had wings it wouldn’t bump its ass when it hops. We can “if” all day long, but it doesn’t change the fact that indoor dining is one of the main causes of spread. Y’all are slowly trying to take every mitigation factor away and won’t stop until it’s 5 days, unspaced with no/optional masks.


Yep. I won’t stop until we’re back in normal school. You’re right there!


DP. It is because of attitudes like yours PP that we can't get this pandemic under control. You need to get help for your anxiety so that you can be more calm and reasonable, and you will be able to understand the science behind the CDC directives, mitigation like social distancing and masks, and those things that help keep society safe.


Seriously. The rabid reopening people like to mock people advocating for mitigation measures, claiming they are anxious basement dwellers. To me the rabid reopeners look like the ones truly struggling with anxiety. They simply cannot accept that this is out of their control. They are just crumbling in the face of this adversity.


The fact that you’ve blindly accepted a year+ of closures followed by some indeterminate amount of time of “hybrid,” “social distancing,” and whatever else, means that you’ve given up. Most of us refuse to give up.


NP here. I've not "blindly accepted" anything. But instead of whining for school, throwing tantrums, and demanding a RTS that will look NOTHING like a normal school situation, I'm working with my own child. Shaping DC's outlook, modeling trying to find the positives, and filling in the academic gaps. It's imperfect. But she's learning and coping.

You've demanded RTS. It's an imperfect model, moreso than DL. Teachers are going to be strapped to teach kids onsite and at home, simultaneously. Everyone I know who has done it in other states say it sucks. No teacher I know (yes, that is anecdotal) is dreading it. But, we have to do it, and all suffer as a result, b/c of your insistence. YOU are the one that lacks resilience. YOU are the one that is just blindly demanding schools open. YOU are the one who has given up on DL by doing nothing but whining.

So you can just point that finger at yourself.
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Anonymous wrote:The CDC is supposed to issue new guidance on Wednesday regarding the opening of schools, hopefully addressing the 6 ft distance thing. You can eat in a restaurant without 6 ft between people.


Indoor dining is one of the most dangerous things you can do right now, so yeah, sure, let’s emulate that.

You people are bonkers.


Well if the CDC says that schools can have less than 6 feet distancing, are you going to say that they are incorrect?


If a frog had wings it wouldn’t bump its ass when it hops. We can “if” all day long, but it doesn’t change the fact that indoor dining is one of the main causes of spread. Y’all are slowly trying to take every mitigation factor away and won’t stop until it’s 5 days, unspaced with no/optional masks.


Yep. I won’t stop until we’re back in normal school. You’re right there!


DP. It is because of attitudes like yours PP that we can't get this pandemic under control. You need to get help for your anxiety so that you can be more calm and reasonable, and you will be able to understand the science behind the CDC directives, mitigation like social distancing and masks, and those things that help keep society safe.


Seriously. The rabid reopening people like to mock people advocating for mitigation measures, claiming they are anxious basement dwellers. To me the rabid reopeners look like the ones truly struggling with anxiety. They simply cannot accept that this is out of their control. They are just crumbling in the face of this adversity.


The fact that you’ve blindly accepted a year+ of closures followed by some indeterminate amount of time of “hybrid,” “social distancing,” and whatever else, means that you’ve given up. Most of us refuse to give up.


NP here. I've not "blindly accepted" anything. But instead of whining for school, throwing tantrums, and demanding a RTS that will look NOTHING like a normal school situation, I'm working with my own child. Shaping DC's outlook, modeling trying to find the positives, and filling in the academic gaps. It's imperfect. But she's learning and coping.

You've demanded RTS. It's an imperfect model, moreso than DL. Teachers are going to be strapped to teach kids onsite and at home, simultaneously. Everyone I know who has done it in other states say it sucks. No teacher I know (yes, that is anecdotal) is dreading it. But, we have to do it, and all suffer as a result, b/c of your insistence. YOU are the one that lacks resilience. YOU are the one that is just blindly demanding schools open. YOU are the one who has given up on DL by doing nothing but whining.

So you can just point that finger at yourself.


Should be just "teachers."
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Anonymous wrote:The CDC is supposed to issue new guidance on Wednesday regarding the opening of schools, hopefully addressing the 6 ft distance thing. You can eat in a restaurant without 6 ft between people.


Indoor dining is one of the most dangerous things you can do right now, so yeah, sure, let’s emulate that.

You people are bonkers.


Well if the CDC says that schools can have less than 6 feet distancing, are you going to say that they are incorrect?


If a frog had wings it wouldn’t bump its ass when it hops. We can “if” all day long, but it doesn’t change the fact that indoor dining is one of the main causes of spread. Y’all are slowly trying to take every mitigation factor away and won’t stop until it’s 5 days, unspaced with no/optional masks.


Yep. I won’t stop until we’re back in normal school. You’re right there!


DP. It is because of attitudes like yours PP that we can't get this pandemic under control. You need to get help for your anxiety so that you can be more calm and reasonable, and you will be able to understand the science behind the CDC directives, mitigation like social distancing and masks, and those things that help keep society safe.


Seriously. The rabid reopening people like to mock people advocating for mitigation measures, claiming they are anxious basement dwellers. To me the rabid reopeners look like the ones truly struggling with anxiety. They simply cannot accept that this is out of their control. They are just crumbling in the face of this adversity.


The fact that you’ve blindly accepted a year+ of closures followed by some indeterminate amount of time of “hybrid,” “social distancing,” and whatever else, means that you’ve given up. Most of us refuse to give up.


NP here. I've not "blindly accepted" anything. But instead of whining for school, throwing tantrums, and demanding a RTS that will look NOTHING like a normal school situation, I'm working with my own child. Shaping DC's outlook, modeling trying to find the positives, and filling in the academic gaps. It's imperfect. But she's learning and coping.

You've demanded RTS. It's an imperfect model, moreso than DL. Teachers are going to be strapped to teach kids onsite and at home, simultaneously. Everyone I know who has done it in other states say it sucks. No teacher I know (yes, that is anecdotal) is dreading it. But, we have to do it, and all suffer as a result, b/c of your insistence. YOU are the one that lacks resilience. YOU are the one that is just blindly demanding schools open. YOU are the one who has given up on DL by doing nothing but whining.

So you can just point that finger at yourself.


What does this mean? Its the parents' fault that....schools are opening?
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Anonymous wrote:The CDC is supposed to issue new guidance on Wednesday regarding the opening of schools, hopefully addressing the 6 ft distance thing. You can eat in a restaurant without 6 ft between people.


Indoor dining is one of the most dangerous things you can do right now, so yeah, sure, let’s emulate that.

You people are bonkers.


Well if the CDC says that schools can have less than 6 feet distancing, are you going to say that they are incorrect?


If a frog had wings it wouldn’t bump its ass when it hops. We can “if” all day long, but it doesn’t change the fact that indoor dining is one of the main causes of spread. Y’all are slowly trying to take every mitigation factor away and won’t stop until it’s 5 days, unspaced with no/optional masks.


Yep. I won’t stop until we’re back in normal school. You’re right there!


DP. It is because of attitudes like yours PP that we can't get this pandemic under control. You need to get help for your anxiety so that you can be more calm and reasonable, and you will be able to understand the science behind the CDC directives, mitigation like social distancing and masks, and those things that help keep society safe.


Seriously. The rabid reopening people like to mock people advocating for mitigation measures, claiming they are anxious basement dwellers. To me the rabid reopeners look like the ones truly struggling with anxiety. They simply cannot accept that this is out of their control. They are just crumbling in the face of this adversity.


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Anonymous wrote:The CDC is supposed to issue new guidance on Wednesday regarding the opening of schools, hopefully addressing the 6 ft distance thing. You can eat in a restaurant without 6 ft between people.


Indoor dining is one of the most dangerous things you can do right now, so yeah, sure, let’s emulate that.

You people are bonkers.


Well if the CDC says that schools can have less than 6 feet distancing, are you going to say that they are incorrect?


If a frog had wings it wouldn’t bump its ass when it hops. We can “if” all day long, but it doesn’t change the fact that indoor dining is one of the main causes of spread. Y’all are slowly trying to take every mitigation factor away and won’t stop until it’s 5 days, unspaced with no/optional masks.


Yep. I won’t stop until we’re back in normal school. You’re right there!


DP. It is because of attitudes like yours PP that we can't get this pandemic under control. You need to get help for your anxiety so that you can be more calm and reasonable, and you will be able to understand the science behind the CDC directives, mitigation like social distancing and masks, and those things that help keep society safe.


Seriously. The rabid reopening people like to mock people advocating for mitigation measures, claiming they are anxious basement dwellers. To me the rabid reopeners look like the ones truly struggling with anxiety. They simply cannot accept that this is out of their control. They are just crumbling in the face of this adversity.


The fact that you’ve blindly accepted a year+ of closures followed by some indeterminate amount of time of “hybrid,” “social distancing,” and whatever else, means that you’ve given up. Most of us refuse to give up.


DP Good luck with that. I just know that strength and persistence won’t protect my family from the virus - we need the vaccine. It’s out of my control so we’ll wait patiently for life to return to normal.


DDP. Except that they seem to be moving the goalposts all the time. First, it was we need PPE and ventilation, then all teachers need to get vaccinated (no talk of kids), now it's all vaccinations plus low community spread and now some are talking about needing all the kids vaccinated too. Now people are latching onto the CDC recommendation that vaccinations must not be more than 3 months ago (so what, teachers need to get revaccinated?). I've been a good soldier all along, masking and distancing, but at some point it seems like we're changing our goals from "mitigate risk" to "lower to zero risk" -- at the great expense of other societal goods.
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Anonymous wrote:The CDC is supposed to issue new guidance on Wednesday regarding the opening of schools, hopefully addressing the 6 ft distance thing. You can eat in a restaurant without 6 ft between people.


Indoor dining is one of the most dangerous things you can do right now, so yeah, sure, let’s emulate that.

You people are bonkers.


Well if the CDC says that schools can have less than 6 feet distancing, are you going to say that they are incorrect?


If a frog had wings it wouldn’t bump its ass when it hops. We can “if” all day long, but it doesn’t change the fact that indoor dining is one of the main causes of spread. Y’all are slowly trying to take every mitigation factor away and won’t stop until it’s 5 days, unspaced with no/optional masks.


Yep. I won’t stop until we’re back in normal school. You’re right there!


DP. It is because of attitudes like yours PP that we can't get this pandemic under control. You need to get help for your anxiety so that you can be more calm and reasonable, and you will be able to understand the science behind the CDC directives, mitigation like social distancing and masks, and those things that help keep society safe.


Seriously. The rabid reopening people like to mock people advocating for mitigation measures, claiming they are anxious basement dwellers. To me the rabid reopeners look like the ones truly struggling with anxiety. They simply cannot accept that this is out of their control. They are just crumbling in the face of this adversity.


The fact that you’ve blindly accepted a year+ of closures followed by some indeterminate amount of time of “hybrid,” “social distancing,” and whatever else, means that you’ve given up. Most of us refuse to give up.


DP Good luck with that. I just know that strength and persistence won’t protect my family from the virus - we need the vaccine. It’s out of my control so we’ll wait patiently for life to return to normal.


DDP. Except that they seem to be moving the goalposts all the time. First, it was we need PPE and ventilation, then all teachers need to get vaccinated (no talk of kids), now it's all vaccinations plus low community spread and now some are talking about needing all the kids vaccinated too. Now people are latching onto the CDC recommendation that vaccinations must not be more than 3 months ago (so what, teachers need to get revaccinated?). I've been a good soldier all along, masking and distancing, but at some point it seems like we're changing our goals from "mitigate risk" to "lower to zero risk" -- at the great expense of other societal goods.



Why is it so far for you to keep up? There are no "goal posts". We are all constantly evaluating the evolving risk factors and ways to best mitigate. We will never have zero risk.

The vaccines are a game changer. They will bring teachers safely into the classrooms. Get the rest of the community vaccinated and we can reduce social distancing measures and get kids to 5 days/week.

And just so you don't freak out in the future - the new variants may throw a wrench into the plans. Better prepare yourself.
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Anonymous wrote:The CDC is supposed to issue new guidance on Wednesday regarding the opening of schools, hopefully addressing the 6 ft distance thing. You can eat in a restaurant without 6 ft between people.


Indoor dining is one of the most dangerous things you can do right now, so yeah, sure, let’s emulate that.

You people are bonkers.


Well if the CDC says that schools can have less than 6 feet distancing, are you going to say that they are incorrect?


If a frog had wings it wouldn’t bump its ass when it hops. We can “if” all day long, but it doesn’t change the fact that indoor dining is one of the main causes of spread. Y’all are slowly trying to take every mitigation factor away and won’t stop until it’s 5 days, unspaced with no/optional masks.


Yep. I won’t stop until we’re back in normal school. You’re right there!


DP. It is because of attitudes like yours PP that we can't get this pandemic under control. You need to get help for your anxiety so that you can be more calm and reasonable, and you will be able to understand the science behind the CDC directives, mitigation like social distancing and masks, and those things that help keep society safe.


Seriously. The rabid reopening people like to mock people advocating for mitigation measures, claiming they are anxious basement dwellers. To me the rabid reopeners look like the ones truly struggling with anxiety. They simply cannot accept that this is out of their control. They are just crumbling in the face of this adversity.


The fact that you’ve blindly accepted a year+ of closures followed by some indeterminate amount of time of “hybrid,” “social distancing,” and whatever else, means that you’ve given up. Most of us refuse to give up.


DP Good luck with that. I just know that strength and persistence won’t protect my family from the virus - we need the vaccine. It’s out of my control so we’ll wait patiently for life to return to normal.


DDP. Except that they seem to be moving the goalposts all the time. First, it was we need PPE and ventilation, then all teachers need to get vaccinated (no talk of kids), now it's all vaccinations plus low community spread and now some are talking about needing all the kids vaccinated too. Now people are latching onto the CDC recommendation that vaccinations must not be more than 3 months ago (so what, teachers need to get revaccinated?). I've been a good soldier all along, masking and distancing, but at some point it seems like we're changing our goals from "mitigate risk" to "lower to zero risk" -- at the great expense of other societal goods.


Where is this talking point coming from? I’ve heard it a lot and given that this was a new virus and now changing, it seems naive to think that how we handle it can’t or shouldn’t change. And who is “they”? Because I’ve always known that life would be drastically different until we’re all vaccinated. Teachers being vaccinated doesn’t do a thing for my family.
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Are your kids vaccinated?
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Anonymous wrote:The CDC is supposed to issue new guidance on Wednesday regarding the opening of schools, hopefully addressing the 6 ft distance thing. You can eat in a restaurant without 6 ft between people.


Indoor dining is one of the most dangerous things you can do right now, so yeah, sure, let’s emulate that.

You people are bonkers.


Well if the CDC says that schools can have less than 6 feet distancing, are you going to say that they are incorrect?


If a frog had wings it wouldn’t bump its ass when it hops. We can “if” all day long, but it doesn’t change the fact that indoor dining is one of the main causes of spread. Y’all are slowly trying to take every mitigation factor away and won’t stop until it’s 5 days, unspaced with no/optional masks.


Yep. I won’t stop until we’re back in normal school. You’re right there!


DP. It is because of attitudes like yours PP that we can't get this pandemic under control. You need to get help for your anxiety so that you can be more calm and reasonable, and you will be able to understand the science behind the CDC directives, mitigation like social distancing and masks, and those things that help keep society safe.


Seriously. The rabid reopening people like to mock people advocating for mitigation measures, claiming they are anxious basement dwellers. To me the rabid reopeners look like the ones truly struggling with anxiety. They simply cannot accept that this is out of their control. They are just crumbling in the face of this adversity.


The fact that you’ve blindly accepted a year+ of closures followed by some indeterminate amount of time of “hybrid,” “social distancing,” and whatever else, means that you’ve given up. Most of us refuse to give up.


DP Good luck with that. I just know that strength and persistence won’t protect my family from the virus - we need the vaccine. It’s out of my control so we’ll wait patiently for life to return to normal.


DDP. Except that they seem to be moving the goalposts all the time. First, it was we need PPE and ventilation, then all teachers need to get vaccinated (no talk of kids), now it's all vaccinations plus low community spread and now some are talking about needing all the kids vaccinated too. Now people are latching onto the CDC recommendation that vaccinations must not be more than 3 months ago (so what, teachers need to get revaccinated?). I've been a good soldier all along, masking and distancing, but at some point it seems like we're changing our goals from "mitigate risk" to "lower to zero risk" -- at the great expense of other societal goods.


Where is this talking point coming from? I’ve heard it a lot and given that this was a new virus and now changing, it seems naive to think that how we handle it can’t or shouldn’t change. And who is “they”? Because I’ve always known that life would be drastically different until we’re all vaccinated. Teachers being vaccinated doesn’t do a thing for my family.


"They" are the unions - in a lot of parts of the country they get to negotiate on the return. In FCPS both big "associations" put out return to school standards, and then Kimberly Adams, head of FEA, suddenly started advocating for kids to be vaccinated before a five day return (but then walked it back..sort of)
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I’m a teacher. Teaching virtual sucked. Teaching concurrent is going to suck. I’m in person four days, my kids two. That sucks. You know what else sucks? CoVID. Just because I can’t get it doesn’t mean I want to throw all the mitigation out the window. It’s a thing, man. I’d love a normal fall. I NEED a normal fall. But we need to be sane here.

P.S. Mondays are full of meetings. No planning. They.., you guessed it..,
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Anonymous wrote:The CDC is supposed to issue new guidance on Wednesday regarding the opening of schools, hopefully addressing the 6 ft distance thing. You can eat in a restaurant without 6 ft between people.


Indoor dining is one of the most dangerous things you can do right now, so yeah, sure, let’s emulate that.

You people are bonkers.


Well if the CDC says that schools can have less than 6 feet distancing, are you going to say that they are incorrect?


If a frog had wings it wouldn’t bump its ass when it hops. We can “if” all day long, but it doesn’t change the fact that indoor dining is one of the main causes of spread. Y’all are slowly trying to take every mitigation factor away and won’t stop until it’s 5 days, unspaced with no/optional masks.


Yep. I won’t stop until we’re back in normal school. You’re right there!


DP. It is because of attitudes like yours PP that we can't get this pandemic under control. You need to get help for your anxiety so that you can be more calm and reasonable, and you will be able to understand the science behind the CDC directives, mitigation like social distancing and masks, and those things that help keep society safe.


Seriously. The rabid reopening people like to mock people advocating for mitigation measures, claiming they are anxious basement dwellers. To me the rabid reopeners look like the ones truly struggling with anxiety. They simply cannot accept that this is out of their control. They are just crumbling in the face of this adversity.


The fact that you’ve blindly accepted a year+ of closures followed by some indeterminate amount of time of “hybrid,” “social distancing,” and whatever else, means that you’ve given up. Most of us refuse to give up.


DP Good luck with that. I just know that strength and persistence won’t protect my family from the virus - we need the vaccine. It’s out of my control so we’ll wait patiently for life to return to normal.


DDP. Except that they seem to be moving the goalposts all the time. First, it was we need PPE and ventilation, then all teachers need to get vaccinated (no talk of kids), now it's all vaccinations plus low community spread and now some are talking about needing all the kids vaccinated too. Now people are latching onto the CDC recommendation that vaccinations must not be more than 3 months ago (so what, teachers need to get revaccinated?). I've been a good soldier all along, masking and distancing, but at some point it seems like we're changing our goals from "mitigate risk" to "lower to zero risk" -- at the great expense of other societal goods.


Where is this talking point coming from? I’ve heard it a lot and given that this was a new virus and now changing, it seems naive to think that how we handle it can’t or shouldn’t change. And who is “they”? Because I’ve always known that life would be drastically different until we’re all vaccinated. Teachers being vaccinated doesn’t do a thing for my family.


Fine, then you have the option to stay home this year, almost certainly next year, and quite possibly after that. But as for me and my family, we need normal school like they have in many other areas of the country. If they can do it in the little small town district in Ohio where I grew up (1 elementary, 1 middle, 1 HS, and 1 K-8 school in a literal cornfield) - we can do it here.
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Anonymous wrote:The CDC is supposed to issue new guidance on Wednesday regarding the opening of schools, hopefully addressing the 6 ft distance thing. You can eat in a restaurant without 6 ft between people.


Indoor dining is one of the most dangerous things you can do right now, so yeah, sure, let’s emulate that.

You people are bonkers.


Well if the CDC says that schools can have less than 6 feet distancing, are you going to say that they are incorrect?


If a frog had wings it wouldn’t bump its ass when it hops. We can “if” all day long, but it doesn’t change the fact that indoor dining is one of the main causes of spread. Y’all are slowly trying to take every mitigation factor away and won’t stop until it’s 5 days, unspaced with no/optional masks.


Yep. I won’t stop until we’re back in normal school. You’re right there!


DP. It is because of attitudes like yours PP that we can't get this pandemic under control. You need to get help for your anxiety so that you can be more calm and reasonable, and you will be able to understand the science behind the CDC directives, mitigation like social distancing and masks, and those things that help keep society safe.


Seriously. The rabid reopening people like to mock people advocating for mitigation measures, claiming they are anxious basement dwellers. To me the rabid reopeners look like the ones truly struggling with anxiety. They simply cannot accept that this is out of their control. They are just crumbling in the face of this adversity.


The fact that you’ve blindly accepted a year+ of closures followed by some indeterminate amount of time of “hybrid,” “social distancing,” and whatever else, means that you’ve given up. Most of us refuse to give up.


NP here. I've not "blindly accepted" anything. But instead of whining for school, throwing tantrums, and demanding a RTS that will look NOTHING like a normal school situation, I'm working with my own child. Shaping DC's outlook, modeling trying to find the positives, and filling in the academic gaps. It's imperfect. But she's learning and coping.

You've demanded RTS. It's an imperfect model, moreso than DL. Teachers are going to be strapped to teach kids onsite and at home, simultaneously. Everyone I know who has done it in other states say it sucks. No teacher I know (yes, that is anecdotal) is dreading it. But, we have to do it, and all suffer as a result, b/c of your insistence. YOU are the one that lacks resilience. YOU are the one that is just blindly demanding schools open. YOU are the one who has given up on DL by doing nothing but whining.

So you can just point that finger at yourself.


DP. I am with you 100%. It is so frustrating that people are still whining and complaining. If they put even 1/10th the amount of effort into positive behaviors, modeling those behaviors for their kids, and acting supportively with their kids, they wouldn't have their problems. But instead they are being so negative and defying any logic that it is hard to have sympathy. It is so frustrating that these squeaky wheels have managed to get any traction when they act so irresponsibly with their RTS demands.
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