"I support the teachers" people

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Anonymous wrote:I support the teachers AND I want in-person school. I don't think they are mutually exclusive. I think if DCPS actually worked with the teachers (and parents) to develop a plan with actual buy-in, instead of hatching these plans at Central and then announcing them on the news and expecting everyone to hop on board without asking any questions, we could already be back in-person with some form of hybrid.

There are teachers who want to come back. There are also teachers who don't. There are logistical problems around staffing and how to create a concurrent model. The only way to solve those problems (and they are solvable) is to be working together with teachers to figure it out.

Exactly. I just practice simple empathy. If I wouldn't want to go back under the conditions, then I don't expect other people to. DCPS is doing a horrible job. I think a lot of the vitriol toward teachers should be going to the president and mayor. Stop bungling everything and give us some confidence that you aren't as dim witted as you seem and you actually thought even the simplest things through. If we are still in this position next August, I'll use my privilege and try to move out of the country. Then there would be a huge signal that there is something wrong with America (I mean, stating the obvious, but still...) that they aren't prioritizing putting kids in school.

I have zero empathy for teachers, parents, the WTU, and their crony elected officials, who all ganged up on the most vulnerable kids to keep them out of school. Zero.

Thanks, PP, but I think we can see that already. Curious as to why you keep bombing this thread that's addressed to the parents who're supporting teachers instead of sticking to the dozen or so I-hate-teachers threads that already exist. Do you think you have some new information for us?

I actually started this thread. I’m still here to see if any of you supposedly empathetic teacher supporters actually has any limits to how long you will support the closure. So far we seem to have two groups: one group that vageuly and naively believes we will return in term 3, and another group that wants to stay home indefinitely.

Why did you start this thread to get answers to your question if you won't even read them honestly? Seems to me most people think DCPS just needs to come up with a solid, thorough plan and we'd support it. There so far has been NO PLAN. How does that make us ready to go back? How can you feel safe sending your child into an environment where the teachers don't even feel safe?

I'm actually grateful to OP--the frequency with which she's been posting and reposting the same stuff in this thread all morning has helped me see that the I-hate-teachers posts in the other threads really could be the work of just a handful of very agitated, very repetitive people making themselves sound bigger than they are.

That gives me hope for humanity on a tough day. So, thanks OP!

Nice “hope” you have there for humanity - there are thousands of devastated parents today trying to carry on.

And as much as you want to believe it, I am far from alone.

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As the other thread states, only 2,000 kids signed up to return. At our school, from what I understand, the vast majority were not at risk in any way. My guess is about half might actually be at risk and that's pushing it. Poor families aren't itching to get their kids in there as much as the rich ones where the parents are used to seeing their kids 1 hour per day and are tired of cleaning their own homes and cooking their own meals.

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Anonymous wrote:I support the teachers AND I want in-person school. I don't think they are mutually exclusive. I think if DCPS actually worked with the teachers (and parents) to develop a plan with actual buy-in, instead of hatching these plans at Central and then announcing them on the news and expecting everyone to hop on board without asking any questions, we could already be back in-person with some form of hybrid.

There are teachers who want to come back. There are also teachers who don't. There are logistical problems around staffing and how to create a concurrent model. The only way to solve those problems (and they are solvable) is to be working together with teachers to figure it out.

Exactly. I just practice simple empathy. If I wouldn't want to go back under the conditions, then I don't expect other people to. DCPS is doing a horrible job. I think a lot of the vitriol toward teachers should be going to the president and mayor. Stop bungling everything and give us some confidence that you aren't as dim witted as you seem and you actually thought even the simplest things through. If we are still in this position next August, I'll use my privilege and try to move out of the country. Then there would be a huge signal that there is something wrong with America (I mean, stating the obvious, but still...) that they aren't prioritizing putting kids in school.

I have zero empathy for teachers, parents, the WTU, and their crony elected officials, who all ganged up on the most vulnerable kids to keep them out of school. Zero.

Thanks, PP, but I think we can see that already. Curious as to why you keep bombing this thread that's addressed to the parents who're supporting teachers instead of sticking to the dozen or so I-hate-teachers threads that already exist. Do you think you have some new information for us?

I actually started this thread. I’m still here to see if any of you supposedly empathetic teacher supporters actually has any limits to how long you will support the closure. So far we seem to have two groups: one group that vageuly and naively believes we will return in term 3, and another group that wants to stay home indefinitely.

Why did you start this thread to get answers to your question if you won't even read them honestly? Seems to me most people think DCPS just needs to come up with a solid, thorough plan and we'd support it. There so far has been NO PLAN. How does that make us ready to go back? How can you feel safe sending your child into an environment where the teachers don't even feel safe?

I'm actually grateful to OP--the frequency with which she's been posting and reposting the same stuff in this thread all morning has helped me see that the I-hate-teachers posts in the other threads really could be the work of just a handful of very agitated, very repetitive people making themselves sound bigger than they are.

That gives me hope for humanity on a tough day. So, thanks OP!

Nice “hope” you have there for humanity - there are thousands of devastated parents today trying to carry on.

And as much as you want to believe it, I am far from alone.

+1

Glad you have a friend, whether real or imaginary!

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Anonymous wrote:I support the teachers AND I want in-person school. I don't think they are mutually exclusive. I think if DCPS actually worked with the teachers (and parents) to develop a plan with actual buy-in, instead of hatching these plans at Central and then announcing them on the news and expecting everyone to hop on board without asking any questions, we could already be back in-person with some form of hybrid.

There are teachers who want to come back. There are also teachers who don't. There are logistical problems around staffing and how to create a concurrent model. The only way to solve those problems (and they are solvable) is to be working together with teachers to figure it out.

Exactly. I just practice simple empathy. If I wouldn't want to go back under the conditions, then I don't expect other people to. DCPS is doing a horrible job. I think a lot of the vitriol toward teachers should be going to the president and mayor. Stop bungling everything and give us some confidence that you aren't as dim witted as you seem and you actually thought even the simplest things through. If we are still in this position next August, I'll use my privilege and try to move out of the country. Then there would be a huge signal that there is something wrong with America (I mean, stating the obvious, but still...) that they aren't prioritizing putting kids in school.

I have zero empathy for teachers, parents, the WTU, and their crony elected officials, who all ganged up on the most vulnerable kids to keep them out of school. Zero.

Thanks, PP, but I think we can see that already. Curious as to why you keep bombing this thread that's addressed to the parents who're supporting teachers instead of sticking to the dozen or so I-hate-teachers threads that already exist. Do you think you have some new information for us?

I actually started this thread. I’m still here to see if any of you supposedly empathetic teacher supporters actually has any limits to how long you will support the closure. So far we seem to have two groups: one group that vageuly and naively believes we will return in term 3, and another group that wants to stay home indefinitely.

Why did you start this thread to get answers to your question if you won't even read them honestly? Seems to me most people think DCPS just needs to come up with a solid, thorough plan and we'd support it. There so far has been NO PLAN. How does that make us ready to go back? How can you feel safe sending your child into an environment where the teachers don't even feel safe?

I'm actually grateful to OP--the frequency with which she's been posting and reposting the same stuff in this thread all morning has helped me see that the I-hate-teachers posts in the other threads really could be the work of just a handful of very agitated, very repetitive people making themselves sound bigger than they are.

That gives me hope for humanity on a tough day. So, thanks OP!

It's exactly the opposite. The parents who are frustrated are also working. The ones who went on strike have lots of time to post the past couple days.

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Yes, the teachers want safety precautions in place to return. I would never begrudge them that. My issue right now is other parents. I have several friends that are teachers and they are working harder than they ever have. At first they talked about how it was worth it, the kids deserved it, and they had a positive outlook. With the ridiculously bad behavior of parents who hate them coupled with the districts’ lack of communication and support they are starting to give up. They can’t win and they know it. So, they look tired and they stopped talking about “their kids”. They get emails full of rude remarks and hear how they shouldn’t love their own kids as much as theirs. When someone can’t win, they quit caring. This is my biggest fear especially when I watch our kids teachers fake a huge smile and try to minimize the trauma for my freaking kid. I am terrified that they will start to decide you are right and that they should quit. The good ones are the ones you are hurting. The bad ones didn’t care before and slowly be all that’s left if grownups can’t stop acting like middle schoolers.

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Anonymous wrote:I support teachers and choice. As long as their is a DL option while we’re in a pandemic, then that’s fine with me.

Wow. Do you realize how long it will be a "pandemic"? So DL well into 2021 for you?

How about if we put it another way: will you still be stomping and complaining in Fall of 2021 about the changes we've all had to make to our lives because of the pandemic?

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Anonymous wrote:I support teachers and choice. As long as their is a DL option while we’re in a pandemic, then that’s fine with me.

Wow. Do you realize how long it will be a "pandemic"? So DL well into 2021 for you?

How about if we put it another way: will you still be stomping and complaining in Fall of 2021 about the changes we've all had to make to our lives because of the pandemic?

Not all. Kids in nyc get school. Kids in dc do not.

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Anonymous wrote:I support teachers and choice. As long as their is a DL option while we’re in a pandemic, then that’s fine with me.

Wow. Do you realize how long it will be a "pandemic"? So DL well into 2021 for you?

How about if we put it another way: will you still be stomping and complaining in Fall of 2021 about the changes we've all had to make to our lives because of the pandemic?

If kids are not in school in Fall 2021, I will be horrified, yes. "Stomping and complaining" is such a weird way to phrase it. I'm kind of concluding that you don't understand what this is all about - you honestly believe that it's just a nice extra for society to provide education to its children? And that it's "stomping and complaining" to be horrified that the powers that be are apparently perfectly fine with no school indefinitely now? I'm surprised, but I guess I shouldn't be. We're seeing a progressive decay of all public goods, as they get shifted from "things society provides because they're good for everyone" to "you're on your own here, kid, everyone has to look out for their own self interests." I saw this happen with college tuition, but I never dreamed I would see it happen so rapidly with elementary school. SMH.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, the teachers want safety precautions in place to return. I would never begrudge them that. My issue right now is other parents. I have several friends that are teachers and they are working harder than they ever have. At first they talked about how it was worth it, the kids deserved it, and they had a positive outlook. With the ridiculously bad behavior of parents who hate them coupled with the districts’ lack of communication and support they are starting to give up. They can’t win and they know it. So, they look tired and they stopped talking about “their kids”. They get emails full of rude remarks and hear how they shouldn’t love their own kids as much as theirs. When someone can’t win, they quit caring. This is my biggest fear especially when I watch our kids teachers fake a huge smile and try to minimize the trauma for my freaking kid. I am terrified that they will start to decide you are right and that they should quit. The good ones are the ones you are hurting. The bad ones didn’t care before and slowly be all that’s left if grownups can’t stop acting like middle schoolers.

I feel bad for the good teachers. You can disagree with the union's position and still see and treat your kid's teacher with respect and kindness, just as you would want the teacher to treat your kid with respect and kindness even if she disagreed with you -- and frankly, just as you would want to be treated with respect even if people disagree with you. Yes, it's hard for parents who lack childcare, or kids with special needs who can't effectively access DL. It's hard for a lot of people these days, and being nasty and assuming bad faith and spewing vitriol isn't helping anyone. I'm not interested in taking sides, and I'm not interested in bad-faith debate. People who want their kids back in school aren't all callous monsters. Teachers who think this plan is a bad idea aren't all lazy, corrupt losers. Everyone is frayed and worn and frustrated, and we could all do with a little more grace and a little less scapegoating. It can be hard for you or your kid or lots of kids, and still not be because the teachers are lazy or corrupt or incompetent or evil. People of good intent can disagree. And frankly, in real life, the nastiest, meanest words I've heard are coming from the parents highest on the SES ladder, who are using the homeless and neediest as a cudgel and an excuse for being rude and disrespectful to their kid's actual teacher. It's gross and I'm sick of it.

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Anonymous wrote:Is there any point where you would think that enough's enough, we need to go back? It's fully conceivable that in fall 2021, we will be in a similar place as now: similar infection numbers, no pediatric vaccine, limited adult vaccine uptake and availability. Will you still be OK direct learning in 2021?

These people make more sense to me than the people who say teachers are lazy, or that if all the teachers are fired we can quickly replace them from the unemployed general population or that public schools should be defunded and parents issued vouchers to go the charters or homeschool.

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Anonymous wrote:I support the teachers AND I want in-person school. I don't think they are mutually exclusive. I think if DCPS actually worked with the teachers (and parents) to develop a plan with actual buy-in, instead of hatching these plans at Central and then announcing them on the news and expecting everyone to hop on board without asking any questions, we could already be back in-person with some form of hybrid.

There are teachers who want to come back. There are also teachers who don't. There are logistical problems around staffing and how to create a concurrent model. The only way to solve those problems (and they are solvable) is to be working together with teachers to figure it out.

Exactly. I just practice simple empathy. If I wouldn't want to go back under the conditions, then I don't expect other people to. DCPS is doing a horrible job. I think a lot of the vitriol toward teachers should be going to the president and mayor. Stop bungling everything and give us some confidence that you aren't as dim witted as you seem and you actually thought even the simplest things through. If we are still in this position next August, I'll use my privilege and try to move out of the country. Then there would be a huge signal that there is something wrong with America (I mean, stating the obvious, but still...) that they aren't prioritizing putting kids in school.

If you do that (as I have already, for the year at least), you may find that the demands of the WTU and American ideas about what is "safe" go way beyond what other countries have done to successfully open schools. In Germany, all they are doing is wear masks at school but NOT while sitting in the classroom, keep kids in cohorts, wash hands frequently, not share supplies, and open the windows on a regular basis. Quarantine the kid's or teacher's closest contacts when someone tests positive. And despite rising community spread (likely due to travel and adults letting their guard down in general and congregating in various places), they have few cases in schools and no outbreaks. It's not as hard as Americans make it out to be.

Every thread. You tell the exact same story about Germany. Could you at least change it up? Give some new info, new anecdote about your travels, talk about the people who may riot because of new mask rules? ANYTHING that could be some new info

DP. Why are you so triggered by the fact that other countries — heck other US cities and schools — can manage to keep schools open? Causes a little cognitive dissonance I guess.

They're going back into lock downs and curfews. That seems like successful outcomes of reopening schools to you?

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Anonymous wrote:I support the teachers AND I want in-person school. I don't think they are mutually exclusive. I think if DCPS actually worked with the teachers (and parents) to develop a plan with actual buy-in, instead of hatching these plans at Central and then announcing them on the news and expecting everyone to hop on board without asking any questions, we could already be back in-person with some form of hybrid.

There are teachers who want to come back. There are also teachers who don't. There are logistical problems around staffing and how to create a concurrent model. The only way to solve those problems (and they are solvable) is to be working together with teachers to figure it out.

Exactly. I just practice simple empathy. If I wouldn't want to go back under the conditions, then I don't expect other people to. DCPS is doing a horrible job. I think a lot of the vitriol toward teachers should be going to the president and mayor. Stop bungling everything and give us some confidence that you aren't as dim witted as you seem and you actually thought even the simplest things through. If we are still in this position next August, I'll use my privilege and try to move out of the country. Then there would be a huge signal that there is something wrong with America (I mean, stating the obvious, but still...) that they aren't prioritizing putting kids in school.

I have zero empathy for teachers, parents, the WTU, and their crony elected officials, who all ganged up on the most vulnerable kids to keep them out of school. Zero.

Thanks, PP, but I think we can see that already. Curious as to why you keep bombing this thread that's addressed to the parents who're supporting teachers instead of sticking to the dozen or so I-hate-teachers threads that already exist. Do you think you have some new information for us?

I actually started this thread. I’m still here to see if any of you supposedly empathetic teacher supporters actually has any limits to how long you will support the closure. So far we seem to have two groups: one group that vageuly and naively believes we will return in term 3, and another group that wants to stay home indefinitely.

Why did you start this thread to get answers to your question if you won't even read them honestly? Seems to me most people think DCPS just needs to come up with a solid, thorough plan and we'd support it. There so far has been NO PLAN. How does that make us ready to go back? How can you feel safe sending your child into an environment where the teachers don't even feel safe?

I'm actually grateful to OP--the frequency with which she's been posting and reposting the same stuff in this thread all morning has helped me see that the I-hate-teachers posts in the other threads really could be the work of just a handful of very agitated, very repetitive people making themselves sound bigger than they are.

That gives me hope for humanity on a tough day. So, thanks OP!

Nice “hope” you have there for humanity - there are thousands of devastated parents today trying to carry on.

And as much as you want to believe it, I am far from alone.

Why should anyone care? You think it's okay to not give a crap about others, so why should we care about how this is affecting you?

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Anonymous wrote:I support the teachers AND I want in-person school. I don't think they are mutually exclusive. I think if DCPS actually worked with the teachers (and parents) to develop a plan with actual buy-in, instead of hatching these plans at Central and then announcing them on the news and expecting everyone to hop on board without asking any questions, we could already be back in-person with some form of hybrid.

There are teachers who want to come back. There are also teachers who don't. There are logistical problems around staffing and how to create a concurrent model. The only way to solve those problems (and they are solvable) is to be working together with teachers to figure it out.

Exactly. I just practice simple empathy. If I wouldn't want to go back under the conditions, then I don't expect other people to. DCPS is doing a horrible job. I think a lot of the vitriol toward teachers should be going to the president and mayor. Stop bungling everything and give us some confidence that you aren't as dim witted as you seem and you actually thought even the simplest things through. If we are still in this position next August, I'll use my privilege and try to move out of the country. Then there would be a huge signal that there is something wrong with America (I mean, stating the obvious, but still...) that they aren't prioritizing putting kids in school.

I have zero empathy for teachers, parents, the WTU, and their crony elected officials, who all ganged up on the most vulnerable kids to keep them out of school. Zero.

Thanks, PP, but I think we can see that already. Curious as to why you keep bombing this thread that's addressed to the parents who're supporting teachers instead of sticking to the dozen or so I-hate-teachers threads that already exist. Do you think you have some new information for us?

I actually started this thread. I’m still here to see if any of you supposedly empathetic teacher supporters actually has any limits to how long you will support the closure. So far we seem to have two groups: one group that vageuly and naively believes we will return in term 3, and another group that wants to stay home indefinitely.

Why did you start this thread to get answers to your question if you won't even read them honestly? Seems to me most people think DCPS just needs to come up with a solid, thorough plan and we'd support it. There so far has been NO PLAN. How does that make us ready to go back? How can you feel safe sending your child into an environment where the teachers don't even feel safe?

I'm actually grateful to OP--the frequency with which she's been posting and reposting the same stuff in this thread all morning has helped me see that the I-hate-teachers posts in the other threads really could be the work of just a handful of very agitated, very repetitive people making themselves sound bigger than they are.

That gives me hope for humanity on a tough day. So, thanks OP!

Nice “hope” you have there for humanity - there are thousands of devastated parents today trying to carry on.

And as much as you want to believe it, I am far from alone.

+1

Glad you have a friend, whether real or imaginary!

LOL

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Anonymous wrote:I support teachers and choice. As long as their is a DL option while we’re in a pandemic, then that’s fine with me.

Wow. Do you realize how long it will be a "pandemic"? So DL well into 2021 for you?

How about if we put it another way: will you still be stomping and complaining in Fall of 2021 about the changes we've all had to make to our lives because of the pandemic?

If kids are not in school in Fall 2021, I will be horrified, yes. "Stomping and complaining" is such a weird way to phrase it. I'm kind of concluding that you don't understand what this is all about - you honestly believe that it's just a nice extra for society to provide education to its children? And that it's "stomping and complaining" to be horrified that the powers that be are apparently perfectly fine with no school indefinitely now? I'm surprised, but I guess I shouldn't be. We're seeing a progressive decay of all public goods, as they get shifted from "things society provides because they're good for everyone" to "you're on your own here, kid, everyone has to look out for their own self interests." I saw this happen with college tuition, but I never dreamed I would see it happen so rapidly with elementary school. SMH.

You didn't include the pandemic anywhere in your response. As you said, not surprised.

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Anonymous wrote:I support the teachers AND I want in-person school. I don't think they are mutually exclusive. I think if DCPS actually worked with the teachers (and parents) to develop a plan with actual buy-in, instead of hatching these plans at Central and then announcing them on the news and expecting everyone to hop on board without asking any questions, we could already be back in-person with some form of hybrid.

There are teachers who want to come back. There are also teachers who don't. There are logistical problems around staffing and how to create a concurrent model. The only way to solve those problems (and they are solvable) is to be working together with teachers to figure it out.

Exactly. I just practice simple empathy. If I wouldn't want to go back under the conditions, then I don't expect other people to. DCPS is doing a horrible job. I think a lot of the vitriol toward teachers should be going to the president and mayor. Stop bungling everything and give us some confidence that you aren't as dim witted as you seem and you actually thought even the simplest things through. If we are still in this position next August, I'll use my privilege and try to move out of the country. Then there would be a huge signal that there is something wrong with America (I mean, stating the obvious, but still...) that they aren't prioritizing putting kids in school.

If you do that (as I have already, for the year at least), you may find that the demands of the WTU and American ideas about what is "safe" go way beyond what other countries have done to successfully open schools. In Germany, all they are doing is wear masks at school but NOT while sitting in the classroom, keep kids in cohorts, wash hands frequently, not share supplies, and open the windows on a regular basis. Quarantine the kid's or teacher's closest contacts when someone tests positive. And despite rising community spread (likely due to travel and adults letting their guard down in general and congregating in various places), they have few cases in schools and no outbreaks. It's not as hard as Americans make it out to be.

Every thread. You tell the exact same story about Germany. Could you at least change it up? Give some new info, new anecdote about your travels, talk about the people who may riot because of new mask rules? ANYTHING that could be some new info

DP. Why are you so triggered by the fact that other countries — heck other US cities and schools — can manage to keep schools open? Causes a little cognitive dissonance I guess.

They're going back into lock downs and curfews. That seems like successful outcomes of reopening schools to you?

they’re locking down everything else and keeping schools open. And their schools have been open all along.

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Anonymous wrote:I support the teachers AND I want in-person school. I don't think they are mutually exclusive. I think if DCPS actually worked with the teachers (and parents) to develop a plan with actual buy-in, instead of hatching these plans at Central and then announcing them on the news and expecting everyone to hop on board without asking any questions, we could already be back in-person with some form of hybrid.

There are teachers who want to come back. There are also teachers who don't. There are logistical problems around staffing and how to create a concurrent model. The only way to solve those problems (and they are solvable) is to be working together with teachers to figure it out.

Exactly. I just practice simple empathy. If I wouldn't want to go back under the conditions, then I don't expect other people to. DCPS is doing a horrible job. I think a lot of the vitriol toward teachers should be going to the president and mayor. Stop bungling everything and give us some confidence that you aren't as dim witted as you seem and you actually thought even the simplest things through. If we are still in this position next August, I'll use my privilege and try to move out of the country. Then there would be a huge signal that there is something wrong with America (I mean, stating the obvious, but still...) that they aren't prioritizing putting kids in school.

If you do that (as I have already, for the year at least), you may find that the demands of the WTU and American ideas about what is "safe" go way beyond what other countries have done to successfully open schools. In Germany, all they are doing is wear masks at school but NOT while sitting in the classroom, keep kids in cohorts, wash hands frequently, not share supplies, and open the windows on a regular basis. Quarantine the kid's or teacher's closest contacts when someone tests positive. And despite rising community spread (likely due to travel and adults letting their guard down in general and congregating in various places), they have few cases in schools and no outbreaks. It's not as hard as Americans make it out to be.

Every thread. You tell the exact same story about Germany. Could you at least change it up? Give some new info, new anecdote about your travels, talk about the people who may riot because of new mask rules? ANYTHING that could be some new info

DP. Why are you so triggered by the fact that other countries — heck other US cities and schools — can manage to keep schools open? Causes a little cognitive dissonance I guess.

They're going back into lock downs and curfews. That seems like successful outcomes of reopening schools to you?

they’re locking down everything else and keeping schools open. And their schools have been open all along.

Yep. There's a post article up right now about that happening in Canada