Alleged teacher shortage

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why would a "good long term sub" want the job though instead if being hired as an actual staff member? Isn't that insulting to them and wouldn't it mean less pay for same work?

They can't be offered full-time jobs as a teacher, if they're not certified.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am certified to teach math and took calc 2. But I can't. I don't even care about the pay i love teaching. I don't care about the pandemic either.

What i need is on site free childcare and I'd be happy to teach (and I'm female too!)

I don’t understand. Did you have onsite free childcare prior to March 12?

I’m guessing people had elementary school children in school 5 days a week prior to March 12.

😳😲 Did you just imply that a teacher admitted needing CHILDCARE for her school-age child? 😳😲 If we have learned one thing these past 7 months it is that school is not childcare, right? (Unless you are a teacher that needs it... then it is.) 😜

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am certified to teach math and took calc 2. But I can't. I don't even care about the pay i love teaching. I don't care about the pandemic either.

What i need is on site free childcare and I'd be happy to teach (and I'm female too!)

I don’t understand. Did you have onsite free childcare prior to March 12?

Kids in school

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There isn’t a shortage. There are enough certified teachers to work but they are choosing not to. Of course, the school districts don’t care about why teachers leave.

This is false. Less people are majoring in education. There is data to support it.

Fewer people are majoring in education.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am certified to teach math and took calc 2. But I can't. I don't even care about the pay i love teaching. I don't care about the pandemic either.

What i need is on site free childcare and I'd be happy to teach (and I'm female too!)

I don’t understand. Did you have onsite free childcare prior to March 12?

I’m guessing people had elementary school children in school 5 days a week prior to March 12.

😳😲 Did you just imply that a teacher admitted needing CHILDCARE for her school-age child? 😳😲 If we have learned one thing these past 7 months it is that school is not childcare, right? (Unless you are a teacher that needs it... then it is.) 😜

Right, school is not childcare which is why the teacher didn’t say they needed their kids back in school, they said they needed childcare.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There isn’t a shortage. There are enough certified teachers to work but they are choosing not to. Of course, the school districts don’t care about why teachers leave.

This is false. Less people are majoring in education. There is data to support it.

Fewer people are majoring in education.

And way fewer are currently receiving an education.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There isn’t a shortage. There are enough certified teachers to work but they are choosing not to. Of course, the school districts don’t care about why teachers leave.

This is false. Less people are majoring in education. There is data to support it.

Fewer people are majoring in education.

And way fewer are currently receiving an education.

Do we have definitive numbers on the part in bold? I am a teacher and I have not yet been told to return to the school with students. I have only been asked my preference which was hybrid.

ES Teacher

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There isn’t a shortage. There are enough certified teachers to work but they are choosing not to. Of course, the school districts don’t care about why teachers leave.

This is false. Less people are majoring in education. There is data to support it.

Fewer people are majoring in education.

And way fewer are currently receiving an education.

Do we have definitive numbers on the part in bold? I am a teacher and I have not yet been told to return to the school with students. I have only been asked my preference which was hybrid.

ES Teacher

It may vary. There isn't a single teacher on 3 teams I work with (secondary) who is willing to go hybrid or f2f, and none of the teachers in my neighborhood (another 5 people) feel the same. We're close-in NoVa. I also know two private school teachers who quit because they were told to come back for hybrid. One was less than 5 years away from retirement but still.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If residential colleges are opening (most in VA are) I don’t see how K-12 stays closed.

Could it be that colleges are businesses that need to stay open for economic reasons? K-12 it's not a business.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just go to the Employment section of the FCPS website. You will see the pages and pages of jobs. They are in all areas and at all grade levels.

I paid attention for the first time this school year and noticed that there were pages of jobs available all year long. Usually positions are filled by Sept 1 or August at the latest. That wasn’t the case this year.

I spoke with someone in leadership about it once during casual conversation and they confirmed that yes the shortage is real.

There are 113 openings advertised. https://careers.fcps.edu/vl/vacancy.htm ...and that includes all full and part time teacher scale positions.

That's a vacency rate of .0061

That's really, really low.

Nope, there is no shortage.

It doesn't seem like a shortage until there's 25 to 35 kids in your class. Then it definitely is!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Experienced principal here. The teacher shortage is real. It keeps getting worse. Whoever is saying there is no shortage doesn’t know what they’re saying.

If there are enough certified teachers to fill these position but choose not to, it's not a shortage. Public education is losing teachers left and right. Not just unprepared teachers either. But the school districts only care about filling the positions, not why the teachers left. I have half a dozen friends that I can think of off the top of my head who are certified and could step into a classroom at any time but they don't want to.

Stop being ridiculous. If they are open jobs that cannot be filled because there's not enough people to fill them (no matter the reason), there is a shortage.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There isn’t a shortage. There are enough certified teachers to work but they are choosing not to. Of course, the school districts don’t care about why teachers leave.

This is false. Less people are majoring in education. There is data to support it.

Fewer people are majoring in education.

And way fewer are currently receiving an education.

Do we have definitive numbers on the part in bold? I am a teacher and I have not yet been told to return to the school with students. I have only been asked my preference which was hybrid.

ES Teacher

It may vary. There isn't a single teacher on 3 teams I work with (secondary) who is willing to go hybrid or f2f, and none of the teachers in my neighborhood (another 5 people) feel the same. We're close-in NoVa. I also know two private school teachers who quit because they were told to come back for hybrid. One was less than 5 years away from retirement but still.

No doubt it varies. There are 7 teachers (6 gen ed and 1 special ed) on my team (elementary) and at least 6 of us are willing to go to hybrid of f2f. I'm not sure about the 7th. 3 of us are working from the building now.
I can think of 13 teachers working from the building plus a few IAs and the librarian. None of those I've spoken to are against having students return. I know of others who are not in the building who will return.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Experienced principal here. The teacher shortage is real. It keeps getting worse. Whoever is saying there is no shortage doesn’t know what they’re saying.

If there are enough certified teachers to fill these position but choose not to, it's not a shortage. Public education is losing teachers left and right. Not just unprepared teachers either. But the school districts only care about filling the positions, not why the teachers left. I have half a dozen friends that I can think of off the top of my head who are certified and could step into a classroom at any time but they don't want to.

Stop being ridiculous. If they are open jobs that cannot be filled because there's not enough people to fill them (no matter the reason), there is a shortage.

If there is a shortage and there aren’t enough applicants, then the school district needs to raise pay until they do get applicants. It is the law of supply and demand. And yes I know the county won’t like it. But if you have a labor shortage, that’s what you do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Experienced principal here. The teacher shortage is real. It keeps getting worse. Whoever is saying there is no shortage doesn’t know what they’re saying.

If there are enough certified teachers to fill these position but choose not to, it's not a shortage. Public education is losing teachers left and right. Not just unprepared teachers either. But the school districts only care about filling the positions, not why the teachers left. I have half a dozen friends that I can think of off the top of my head who are certified and could step into a classroom at any time but they don't want to.

Stop being ridiculous. If they are open jobs that cannot be filled because there's not enough people to fill them (no matter the reason), there is a shortage.

If there is a shortage and there aren’t enough applicants, then the school district needs to raise pay until they do get applicants. It is the law of supply and demand. And yes I know the county won’t like it. But if you have a labor shortage, that’s what you do.

5th year teaching. 60k. I feel like a peasant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Experienced principal here. The teacher shortage is real. It keeps getting worse. Whoever is saying there is no shortage doesn’t know what they’re saying.

If there are enough certified teachers to fill these position but choose not to, it's not a shortage. Public education is losing teachers left and right. Not just unprepared teachers either. But the school districts only care about filling the positions, not why the teachers left. I have half a dozen friends that I can think of off the top of my head who are certified and could step into a classroom at any time but they don't want to.

Stop being ridiculous. If they are open jobs that cannot be filled because there's not enough people to fill them (no matter the reason), there is a shortage.

If there is a shortage and there aren’t enough applicants, then the school district needs to raise pay until they do get applicants. It is the law of supply and demand. And yes I know the county won’t like it. But if you have a labor shortage, that’s what you do.

5th year teaching. 60k. I feel like a peasant.

Want to be an aide to a school board member? That starts at $64K and there are 12 newly posted positions.