Women Videotapes Man Banging on Her Seat After She Reclines -Who's Right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:For all the strong anti-recliners out there, I have a question for you. If the person in front of you reclines, would you recline your own seat to make it better? I personally do not like to recline, but I also understand that it is anyone's right to recline and accept it as the inconvenience of flying. I however do not like having the seat in front literally to my face, so I, in turn, recline my own seat in response. This has never happened, but if the person behind me asks me not to recline, I would answer that I would gladly oblige if they can convince the person in front of me to not recline. Ideally, airlines should just do away with reclining seats or give us all more space.

No. I’m wouldn’t dream of inconveniencing the person behind me, regardless of the situation.

So you would rather be uncomfortable the whole flight? If so, then kudos to you! You are a better person than I ever dreamed to be!

Obviously.

[Anonymous]

I just don't understand the issue. A seat in coach reclines, what, about 2 inches at the top? How in the world does that matter? I'm a 5'11" female, and my husband is a 6'4" male. I have breastfed lap babies on the plane, I watch movies on the plane, I get up and go to the bathroom on the plane, I eat snacks and meals on the plane, and it doesn't matter whether the person in front of me is reclined or not. My husband is more cramped than I, but he still has room enough to maneuver, and the loss of 2 inches toward the top of seat makes no difference to him and his laptop.

There just seems to be a lot of exaggeration going on about the effects of reclining one's seat.

Isn't it way more problematic and crowded when you have to sit next to an obese person?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just don't understand the issue. A seat in coach reclines, what, about 2 inches at the top? How in the world does that matter? I'm a 5'11" female, and my husband is a 6'4" male. I have breastfed lap babies on the plane, I watch movies on the plane, I get up and go to the bathroom on the plane, I eat snacks and meals on the plane, and it doesn't matter whether the person in front of me is reclined or not. My husband is more cramped than I, but he still has room enough to maneuver, and the loss of 2 inches toward the top of seat makes no difference to him and his laptop.

There just seems to be a lot of exaggeration going on about the effects of reclining one's seat.

Isn't it way more problematic and crowded when you have to sit next to an obese person?

Depending on the seat, and depending on the strength and weight of the person reclining, it can be quite a bit more than 2 inches and it is definitely all the way in the lap/chest area too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For all the strong anti-recliners out there, I have a question for you. If the person in front of you reclines, would you recline your own seat to make it better? I personally do not like to recline, but I also understand that it is anyone's right to recline and accept it as the inconvenience of flying. I however do not like having the seat in front literally to my face, so I, in turn, recline my own seat in response. This has never happened, but if the person behind me asks me not to recline, I would answer that I would gladly oblige if they can convince the person in front of me to not recline. Ideally, airlines should just do away with reclining seats or give us all more space.

No. I’m wouldn’t dream of inconveniencing the person behind me, regardless of the situation.

So you would rather be uncomfortable the whole flight? If so, then kudos to you! You are a better person than I ever dreamed to be!

Obviously.

lol! Can't stand people like this getting on their high horse and thinking they're better than others. Yeah right you would sacrifice your comfort for someone else's.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For all the strong anti-recliners out there, I have a question for you. If the person in front of you reclines, would you recline your own seat to make it better? I personally do not like to recline, but I also understand that it is anyone's right to recline and accept it as the inconvenience of flying. I however do not like having the seat in front literally to my face, so I, in turn, recline my own seat in response. This has never happened, but if the person behind me asks me not to recline, I would answer that I would gladly oblige if they can convince the person in front of me to not recline. Ideally, airlines should just do away with reclining seats or give us all more space.

No. I’m wouldn’t dream of inconveniencing the person behind me, regardless of the situation.

So you would rather be uncomfortable the whole flight? If so, then kudos to you! You are a better person than I ever dreamed to be!

Obviously.

lol! Can't stand people like this getting on their high horse and thinking they're better than others. Yeah right you would sacrifice your comfort for someone else's.

I sure would. I’m not a hypocrite, unlike so many posters on this thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just don't understand the issue. A seat in coach reclines, what, about 2 inches at the top? How in the world does that matter? I'm a 5'11" female, and my husband is a 6'4" male. I have breastfed lap babies on the plane, I watch movies on the plane, I get up and go to the bathroom on the plane, I eat snacks and meals on the plane, and it doesn't matter whether the person in front of me is reclined or not. My husband is more cramped than I, but he still has room enough to maneuver, and the loss of 2 inches toward the top of seat makes no difference to him and his laptop.

There just seems to be a lot of exaggeration going on about the effects of reclining one's seat.

Isn't it way more problematic and crowded when you have to sit next to an obese person?

"Starting Saturday, April 13, Delta will retrofit its fleet of 62 Airbus A320 jets to reduce the recline of the coach seats from 4 inches to 2 inches and the recline of first class seats from 5.5 inches to 3.5 inches." from https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/delta-air-lines-seat-recline-change/index.html

So there you have it. The seats usually recline 5.5 inches by design. More if they're old or damaged, I guess.

That's actually quite a bit of space when space is already so tight to start with.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just don't understand the issue. A seat in coach reclines, what, about 2 inches at the top? How in the world does that matter? I'm a 5'11" female, and my husband is a 6'4" male. I have breastfed lap babies on the plane, I watch movies on the plane, I get up and go to the bathroom on the plane, I eat snacks and meals on the plane, and it doesn't matter whether the person in front of me is reclined or not. My husband is more cramped than I, but he still has room enough to maneuver, and the loss of 2 inches toward the top of seat makes no difference to him and his laptop.

There just seems to be a lot of exaggeration going on about the effects of reclining one's seat.

Isn't it way more problematic and crowded when you have to sit next to an obese person?

"Starting Saturday, April 13, Delta will retrofit its fleet of 62 Airbus A320 jets to reduce the recline of the coach seats from 4 inches to 2 inches and the recline of first class seats from 5.5 inches to 3.5 inches." from https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/delta-air-lines-seat-recline-change/index.html

So there you have it. The seats usually recline 5.5 inches by design. More if they're old or damaged, I guess.

That's actually quite a bit of space when space is already so tight to start with.

Ah sorry, that's 5.5 inches in first, or 4 inches in coach.

"Passengers are packed so tightly into planes these days that any invasion of our personal space is amplified, and seat recline is one of those trigger points that easily leads to disputes between passengers," he told CNN Travel.
"One is just trying to relax and give themselves a bit of extra room while the person behind them is suddenly struggling with the feeling of the world closing in on them."

The last sentence is the problem. Instead of saying "... trying to give themselves a bit of extra room" it should say ".... trying to take a bit of space from the person behind them" because that's exactly what it is, by definition. The space doesn't come from nowhere - it's taken away from the person behind you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They are both jerks. He should have asked her politely to move her seat up a bit - it was hitting his knees. She could have taken the hint and moved her seat up a little to give him more room.

It's not that hard.

He never asked her to not recline her seat
Therefore he was in the wrong
You cannot always expect people to know what you are thinking, feeling. Language and polite language has been invented for a reason

We don't know what happened before she started filming.

Doesn't matter. Still not okay to commit an assault.

What assault? He’s tapping on her chair in beat to music, passive-aggressively. Does he touch her? No.

Please just look at his aggressive hyped up entitled face

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just don't understand the issue. A seat in coach reclines, what, about 2 inches at the top? How in the world does that matter? I'm a 5'11" female, and my husband is a 6'4" male. I have breastfed lap babies on the plane, I watch movies on the plane, I get up and go to the bathroom on the plane, I eat snacks and meals on the plane, and it doesn't matter whether the person in front of me is reclined or not. My husband is more cramped than I, but he still has room enough to maneuver, and the loss of 2 inches toward the top of seat makes no difference to him and his laptop.

There just seems to be a lot of exaggeration going on about the effects of reclining one's seat.

Isn't it way more problematic and crowded when you have to sit next to an obese person?

Depending on the seat, and depending on the strength and weight of the person reclining, it can be quite a bit more than 2 inches and it is definitely all the way in the lap/chest area too.

Sorry folks, I fly all the time (in coach) and the reclined/not just doesn't matter all that much in terms of your space. Maybe this is because I am so tall and grew up riding in the backseat of sedans? A lot less space there!

[Anonymous]

I'll say I've had to sit in those very last row seats before because I have booked my flight at the last minute. My own fault. Dude should book his seat earlier, no reason to blame the lady in front of him for his own poor decisions. Typical dude.

[Anonymous]

This guy looks like he is deranged. Like the situation caused him to become insane and he’s taking it out on the woman in front of him.

It never bothers me when somebody reclines.

[Anonymous]

They are both jerks. She was a jerk first though.

[Anonymous]

Delta CEO says you can recline but you should ask first.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/airline-passengers-should-ask-they-recline-delta-ceo-says-after-n1137351

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This guy looks like he is deranged. Like the situation caused him to become insane and he’s taking it out on the woman in front of him.

It never bothers me when somebody reclines.

+1

[Anonymous]

In any event, the entitled douchebag man is going to ruin it for the rest of us. Reclining will stop completely because "people" (aka men) can't handle it without throwing ridiculous temper tantrums, and that will give the airlines the excuse they need to move the seats even closer together. They'll remove reclining and move the rows even closer together because they don't need to account for reclining. So congratulations, I guess, all you antirecliners, for making air travel even more uncomfortable.