What’s wrong with William & Mary?

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Anonymous wrote:It seems to me that it doesn’t really have a bright future as a public school. In a time of increased popularity for many Virginia public universities, William & Mary seems to be caught in a downward spiral. Its application numbers are stagnant, its female-male ratio is ridiculous, its acceptance rate has increased to almost 40 percent, its yield rate is terrible, it’s poorly positioned in terms of tech growth, it’s very expensive, and it’s now looking to increase (?) enrollment because it needs the bucks. Discouraging my kid from applying. Is it time for the school to consider becoming a private college or to affiliate with Tech or something?

UNC and Emory have the same gender balance.

Most colleges have this gender balance. More women than men attend college— on average colleges are almost 2/3 female.

Off topic question: does this imbalance in any way benefit male applicants over females?

Yes. The admission rate is 8-10% higher for men. (IDK exact numbers, but is something like 33% acceptance for women and 41% for men’. Unless the men really javemstats that are that much higher. It’s easier for men to get in. That dynamic is not at all uncommon at SLACs. Girls get an edge in many engineering programs and boys get an edge in SLACs.

For the fall of 2018, women had a 34% acceptance rate and men had a 42% acceptance rate.

This is JUST A GUESS, but I’d venture to say the Early Decision acceptance for men was in or around 50 percent or so.

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Anonymous wrote:NP, my two sport, 4.0+ freshman son has walked through UVA, W&L and W&M. After our quick walkthrough his initial impression is W&L is too small and hilly(?). It was 95 degrees. UVA was dirty (??). Don't know what that means and W&M was AWESOME. One dumb kid's perspective!

W&L campus is pretty flat. But hey, gotta narrow it down somehow.

Not going to a school with the name “Lee” in it is always a prudent move.

Or Stanford. Or Amherst.

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Anonymous wrote:NP, my two sport, 4.0+ freshman son has walked through UVA, W&L and W&M. After our quick walkthrough his initial impression is W&L is too small and hilly(?). It was 95 degrees. UVA was dirty (??). Don't know what that means and W&M was AWESOME. One dumb kid's perspective!

W&L campus is pretty flat. But hey, gotta narrow it down somehow.

Not going to a school with the name “Lee” in it is always a prudent move.

Or Stanford. Or Amherst.

I disagree with that, especially with respect to Stanford, To be sure, Amherst is so 1988.

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Anonymous wrote:We did the college tour with my DD. public and private. On the way home I told her I was tired of looking at schools and did not want to stop at WM. Decided at last minute, what the heck. She loved it. She did not like UVA, too big, JMU, too big, She loved WL but I wanted her to apply to a public school. She also loved Univ. Of Richmond. Univ of Penn, and Mary Washington. She decided to only apply at WM and was accepted for early decision. She is there this weekend meeting up with a few others that were picked for early decision. She loves the size, loves that she will get a great education and it isn't all about the party. . She is a very serious student and she wanted to be around like minded people. My son is a junior and is total opposite. He will love UVA. big school, lots of people and plenty of parties. He is smart also but different person. To each their own. Thankfully in Va, we have great choices for all kinds of people. Cheers to all the kids headed out the door next fall for their next adventure.

He should have a backup plan, given the fierce competition.

She got early acceptance. WM 2024.

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Anonymous wrote:We did the college tour with my DD. public and private. On the way home I told her I was tired of looking at schools and did not want to stop at WM. Decided at last minute, what the heck. She loved it. She did not like UVA, too big, JMU, too big, She loved WL but I wanted her to apply to a public school. She also loved Univ. Of Richmond. Univ of Penn, and Mary Washington. She decided to only apply at WM and was accepted for early decision. She is there this weekend meeting up with a few others that were picked for early decision. She loves the size, loves that she will get a great education and it isn't all about the party. . She is a very serious student and she wanted to be around like minded people. My son is a junior and is total opposite. He will love UVA. big school, lots of people and plenty of parties. He is smart also but different person. To each their own. Thankfully in Va, we have great choices for all kinds of people. Cheers to all the kids headed out the door next fall for their next adventure.

He should have a backup plan, given the fierce competition.

She got early acceptance. WM 2024.

Congratulations!

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Anonymous wrote:We did the college tour with my DD. public and private. On the way home I told her I was tired of looking at schools and did not want to stop at WM. Decided at last minute, what the heck. She loved it. She did not like UVA, too big, JMU, too big, She loved WL but I wanted her to apply to a public school. She also loved Univ. Of Richmond. Univ of Penn, and Mary Washington. She decided to only apply at WM and was accepted for early decision. She is there this weekend meeting up with a few others that were picked for early decision. She loves the size, loves that she will get a great education and it isn't all about the party. . She is a very serious student and she wanted to be around like minded people. My son is a junior and is total opposite. He will love UVA. big school, lots of people and plenty of parties. He is smart also but different person. To each their own. Thankfully in Va, we have great choices for all kinds of people. Cheers to all the kids headed out the door next fall for their next adventure.

He should have a backup plan, given the fierce competition.

She got early acceptance. WM 2024.

Poster said he, as in her son, to UVA. We already knew the daughter is in.

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Anonymous wrote:NP, my two sport, 4.0+ freshman son has walked through UVA, W&L and W&M. After our quick walkthrough his initial impression is W&L is too small and hilly(?). It was 95 degrees. UVA was dirty (??). Don't know what that means and W&M was AWESOME. One dumb kid's perspective!

W&L campus is pretty flat. But hey, gotta narrow it down somehow.

Not going to a school with the name “Lee” in it is always a prudent move.

Or Stanford. Or Amherst.

I disagree with that, especially with respect to Stanford, To be sure, Amherst is so 1988.

You disagree that Leland Stanford and Lord Amherst were racists? Do tell.

[Anonymous]

There’s nothing wrong with William & Mary. Clearly, OP’s kid didn’t get into W&M via ED 1 so has an axe to grind.

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Anonymous wrote:It seems to me that it doesn’t really have a bright future as a public school. In a time of increased popularity for many Virginia public universities, William & Mary seems to be caught in a downward spiral. Its application numbers are stagnant, its female-male ratio is ridiculous, its acceptance rate has increased to almost 40 percent, its yield rate is terrible, it’s poorly positioned in terms of tech growth, it’s very expensive, and it’s now looking to increase (?) enrollment because it needs the bucks. Discouraging my kid from applying. Is it time for the school to consider becoming a private college or to affiliate with Tech or something?

UNC and Emory have the same gender balance.

Most colleges have this gender balance. More women than men attend college— on average colleges are almost 2/3 female.

Off topic question: does this imbalance in any way benefit male applicants over females?

Yes. The admission rate is 8-10% higher for men. (IDK exact numbers, but is something like 33% acceptance for women and 41% for men’. Unless the men really javemstats that are that much higher. It’s easier for men to get in. That dynamic is not at all uncommon at SLACs. Girls get an edge in many engineering programs and boys get an edge in SLACs.

For the fall of 2018, women had a 34% acceptance rate and men had a 42% acceptance rate.

Isn't this illegal discrimination against women? Actually, unconstitutional discrimination, with WM and UVA as state schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It seems to me that it doesn’t really have a bright future as a public school. In a time of increased popularity for many Virginia public universities, William & Mary seems to be caught in a downward spiral. Its application numbers are stagnant, its female-male ratio is ridiculous, its acceptance rate has increased to almost 40 percent, its yield rate is terrible, it’s poorly positioned in terms of tech growth, it’s very expensive, and it’s now looking to increase (?) enrollment because it needs the bucks. Discouraging my kid from applying. Is it time for the school to consider becoming a private college or to affiliate with Tech or something?

UNC and Emory have the same gender balance.

Most colleges have this gender balance. More women than men attend college— on average colleges are almost 2/3 female.

Off topic question: does this imbalance in any way benefit male applicants over females?

Yes. The admission rate is 8-10% higher for men. (IDK exact numbers, but is something like 33% acceptance for women and 41% for men’. Unless the men really javemstats that are that much higher. It’s easier for men to get in. That dynamic is not at all uncommon at SLACs. Girls get an edge in many engineering programs and boys get an edge in SLACs.

For the fall of 2018, women had a 34% acceptance rate and men had a 42% acceptance rate.

Isn't this illegal discrimination against women? Actually, unconstitutional discrimination, with WM and UVA as state schools.

Holistic admissions. Easier to get into programs like engineering as a girl.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It seems to me that it doesn’t really have a bright future as a public school. In a time of increased popularity for many Virginia public universities, William & Mary seems to be caught in a downward spiral. Its application numbers are stagnant, its female-male ratio is ridiculous, its acceptance rate has increased to almost 40 percent, its yield rate is terrible, it’s poorly positioned in terms of tech growth, it’s very expensive, and it’s now looking to increase (?) enrollment because it needs the bucks. Discouraging my kid from applying. Is it time for the school to consider becoming a private college or to affiliate with Tech or something?

UNC and Emory have the same gender balance.

Most colleges have this gender balance. More women than men attend college— on average colleges are almost 2/3 female.

Off topic question: does this imbalance in any way benefit male applicants over females?

Yes. The admission rate is 8-10% higher for men. (IDK exact numbers, but is something like 33% acceptance for women and 41% for men’. Unless the men really javemstats that are that much higher. It’s easier for men to get in. That dynamic is not at all uncommon at SLACs. Girls get an edge in many engineering programs and boys get an edge in SLACs.

For the fall of 2018, women had a 34% acceptance rate and men had a 42% acceptance rate.

Isn't this illegal discrimination against women? Actually, unconstitutional discrimination, with WM and UVA as state schools.

Holistic admissions. Easier to get into programs like engineering as a girl.

It is easier to get into Harvard if you are not Asian.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP, my two sport, 4.0+ freshman son has walked through UVA, W&L and W&M. After our quick walkthrough his initial impression is W&L is too small and hilly(?). It was 95 degrees. UVA was dirty (??). Don't know what that means and W&M was AWESOME. One dumb kid's perspective!

W&L campus is pretty flat. But hey, gotta narrow it down somehow.

Not going to a school with the name “Lee” in it is always a prudent move.

Or Stanford. Or Amherst.

I disagree with that, especially with respect to Stanford, To be sure, Amherst is so 1988.

You disagree that Leland Stanford and Lord Amherst were racists? Do tell.

If you're seriously of the opinion a school should change its name because it's the name of a guy who said something racist 250 or 300 years ago, then you're too stupid and crazy to go to college.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:NP, my two sport, 4.0+ freshman son has walked through UVA, W&L and W&M. After our quick walkthrough his initial impression is W&L is too small and hilly(?). It was 95 degrees. UVA was dirty (??). Don't know what that means and W&M was AWESOME. One dumb kid's perspective!

W&L campus is pretty flat. But hey, gotta narrow it down somehow.

Not going to a school with the name “Lee” in it is always a prudent move.

Or Stanford. Or Amherst.

I disagree with that, especially with respect to Stanford, To be sure, Amherst is so 1988.

You disagree that Leland Stanford and Lord Amherst were racists? Do tell.

No idea. Did they lead the Confederacy’s military operations?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There’s nothing wrong with William & Mary. Clearly, OP’s kid didn’t get into W&M via ED 1 so has an axe to grind.

False. As the oldest college in America, it is a venerable place. However, the numbers I mentioned should serve as alarm bells to the administration.

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Anonymous wrote:There’s nothing wrong with William & Mary. Clearly, OP’s kid didn’t get into W&M via ED 1 so has an axe to grind.

False. As the oldest college in America, it is a venerable place. However, the numbers I mentioned should serve as alarm bells to the administration.

Your numbers aren't accurate or don't reflect what you think they reflect. W&M is doing just fine.