DOJ argues that migrant children should not receive toothbrushes or soap

[Anonymous]

Yes, getting rid of immigrants will automatically reverse the fortunes of low income Americans. Healthcare and jobs for everyone!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our current budget is about 4.5 trillion. Of that half goes just tonscoial security and defense. Defense isnt only "buying expensive bombs" as liberals like to shriek. It is also veteran services, presence around the world to maintain stability (think south korea) and keeping sea passage open for trade (think Iran and pirates) so that all world economies (including ours can function. It's also based in people home states that employ people and pour money into the economy.
Anyhow- after that the other half is remaining. Being mindful that we bring in about a trillion less in taxes than we are projected to spend- and a massive deficit on which we are paying interest. So we are basically living on borrowed money that our kids will need to "pay back".. how much of that should we dedicate yearly to hosting border visitors?

It doesn't stop there. As liberals continue to allow these people to live here illegally, they then deliberately create pockets of poverty all over the nation, then scream "it's not fair!" as a way to redistribute the wealth of legal citizens and natural born citizens of this country.

Who’s hiring them (besides Trump) and what’s the administration’s plan to deal with the criminal employers?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, getting rid of immigrants will automatically reverse the fortunes of low income Americans. Healthcare and jobs for everyone!

Seems like there’s a specific term for some of the rhetoric being spread on this thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our current budget is about 4.5 trillion. Of that half goes just tonscoial security and defense. Defense isnt only "buying expensive bombs" as liberals like to shriek. It is also veteran services, presence around the world to maintain stability (think south korea) and keeping sea passage open for trade (think Iran and pirates) so that all world economies (including ours can function. It's also based in people home states that employ people and pour money into the economy.
Anyhow- after that the other half is remaining. Being mindful that we bring in about a trillion less in taxes than we are projected to spend- and a massive deficit on which we are paying interest. So we are basically living on borrowed money that our kids will need to "pay back".. how much of that should we dedicate yearly to hosting border visitors?

It doesn't stop there. As liberals continue to allow these people to live here illegally, they then deliberately create pockets of poverty all over the nation, then scream "it's not fair!" as a way to redistribute the wealth of legal citizens and natural born citizens of this country.

Front page Post article about rural Americans self treating tooth abscesses with peroxide and aspirin and waiting 4 years to see a doctor at a pop-up clinic. Wasnt Obama care supposed to address this? Who are are priorities? I am so confused....

At this point should we contract one centralized for profit group like KBR which sets up camps and food service for our war zone deployed military and coordinate with public health service workers to set up massive efficient encampments. Same standards our military get, pup tents and cans, basic medical and 3 catered mass meals. Obviously they will have to spend money on vetted child careers sho will live at the facility along side guards.

You’re not confused, you’re either willfully ignorant or just stupid. The people who are self-treating tooth abscesses are some of the same people who bitched about the individual mandate because they’d rather get tattoos and smoke than take personal responsibility and pay for their own health insurance, even with a hefty subsidy. Anyone who understands how insurance works understands that the individual mandate would have made everyone pay in so the risk pool was as large as possible so premiums would be lower. Unfortunately, sicker people bought plans and the healthier people decided they’d just shirk and show up in the ER, so the insurance marketplace didn’t work as intended. Of course, that was by GOP design.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:“Judge William Fletcher, the third panel member, said Gee found evidence that minors were kept overnight in crowded, chilly rooms, sleeping on concrete floors with aluminum-foil blankets with the lights kept on all night.”

One night? I think one night is acceptable. They went without soap, a toothbrush, a blanket how many nights while traveling to cross the border?

You would have a fit of one of your children was treated this way. It is unconscionable that the United States of America has sunk to the level of Hitler and Stalin.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Judge William Fletcher, the third panel member, said Gee found evidence that minors were kept overnight in crowded, chilly rooms, sleeping on concrete floors with aluminum-foil blankets with the lights kept on all night.”

One night? I think one night is acceptable. They went without soap, a toothbrush, a blanket how many nights while traveling to cross the border?

You would have a fit of one of your children was treated this way. It is unconscionable that the United States of America has sunk to the level of Hitler and Stalin.

So, you would agree that this "sinking" began long before Trump assumed office, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our current budget is about 4.5 trillion. Of that half goes just tonscoial security and defense. Defense isnt only "buying expensive bombs" as liberals like to shriek. It is also veteran services, presence around the world to maintain stability (think south korea) and keeping sea passage open for trade (think Iran and pirates) so that all world economies (including ours can function. It's also based in people home states that employ people and pour money into the economy.
Anyhow- after that the other half is remaining. Being mindful that we bring in about a trillion less in taxes than we are projected to spend- and a massive deficit on which we are paying interest. So we are basically living on borrowed money that our kids will need to "pay back".. how much of that should we dedicate yearly to hosting border visitors?

It doesn't stop there. As liberals continue to allow these people to live here illegally, they then deliberately create pockets of poverty all over the nation, then scream "it's not fair!" as a way to redistribute the wealth of legal citizens and natural born citizens of this country.

Who’s hiring them (besides Trump) and what’s the administration’s plan to deal with the criminal employers?

If we are lot legally allowed to check ID to see if someone is legal, how can anyone formulate a plan or be held responsible?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So at remote border outposts overwhelmed by large volume drop offs we want the same standard of care as at long term facilities? Meanwhile rural Americans dont see a doctor, at all, for four years. Meanwhile our current deficit (that American children will pay) is 207 billion dollars. This years government budget gap rose to 42 percent (what comes in with taxes/goes out in expenditures). We are hosting our visitors on borrowed money - is it like monopoly money? Just trying to connect all the dots in this crisis.

Blaming our country’s failings of poor people on other poor people.
If only we could get rid of these illegal poor people then all the good things will shower down upon you legal poor people.

Resources are finite. If we are providing for illegal poor people, legal poor people are getting shafted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Judge William Fletcher, the third panel member, said Gee found evidence that minors were kept overnight in crowded, chilly rooms, sleeping on concrete floors with aluminum-foil blankets with the lights kept on all night.”

One night? I think one night is acceptable. They went without soap, a toothbrush, a blanket how many nights while traveling to cross the border?

You would have a fit of one of your children was treated this way. It is unconscionable that the United States of America has sunk to the level of Hitler and Stalin.

So, you would agree that this "sinking" began long before Trump assumed office, right?

Did the Obama administration claim in court it was OK to keep babies on the floor all night with the lights on and no clothes and no soap? I might have missed that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So at remote border outposts overwhelmed by large volume drop offs we want the same standard of care as at long term facilities? Meanwhile rural Americans dont see a doctor, at all, for four years. Meanwhile our current deficit (that American children will pay) is 207 billion dollars. This years government budget gap rose to 42 percent (what comes in with taxes/goes out in expenditures). We are hosting our visitors on borrowed money - is it like monopoly money? Just trying to connect all the dots in this crisis.

Blaming our country’s failings of poor people on other poor people.
If only we could get rid of these illegal poor people then all the good things will shower down upon you legal poor people.

Resources are finite. If we are providing for illegal poor people, legal poor people are getting shafted.

You're evading the point. When the government takes custody of a person, then the government assumes the responsibility to treat them humanely. This isn't about some kind of government benefit being provided to "illegal poor persons," but rather deplorable detention conditions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Judge William Fletcher, the third panel member, said Gee found evidence that minors were kept overnight in crowded, chilly rooms, sleeping on concrete floors with aluminum-foil blankets with the lights kept on all night.”

One night? I think one night is acceptable. They went without soap, a toothbrush, a blanket how many nights while traveling to cross the border?

You would have a fit of one of your children was treated this way. It is unconscionable that the United States of America has sunk to the level of Hitler and Stalin.

So, you would agree that this "sinking" began long before Trump assumed office, right?

Did the Obama administration claim in court it was OK to keep babies on the floor all night with the lights on and no clothes and no soap? I might have missed that.

Well, Sarah Fabian, the attorney who argued the case, worked for this office during the Obama administration.
Her argument to the court during the Obama administration may be perceived as worse than this. But, crickets from the Outrage Crowd.

"She also argued for the Justice Department in 2015 — during the Obama administration — that detention authorities should have the power to put immigrant children in solitary confinement."

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/doj-attorney-sarah-fabian-no-soap-beds-toothburshes-immigrant-children_n_5d0ea60fe4b0aa375f4d8eda

[Anonymous]

So this is what it feels like to be in a country that runs concentration camps

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So this is what it feels like to be in a country that runs concentration camps

You've been in one all along.

Read a history book

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So at remote border outposts overwhelmed by large volume drop offs we want the same standard of care as at long term facilities? Meanwhile rural Americans dont see a doctor, at all, for four years. Meanwhile our current deficit (that American children will pay) is 207 billion dollars. This years government budget gap rose to 42 percent (what comes in with taxes/goes out in expenditures). We are hosting our visitors on borrowed money - is it like monopoly money? Just trying to connect all the dots in this crisis.

Blaming our country’s failings of poor people on other poor people.
If only we could get rid of these illegal poor people then all the good things will shower down upon you legal poor people.

Resources are finite. If we are providing for illegal poor people, legal poor people are getting shafted.

You're evading the point. When the government takes custody of a person, then the government assumes the responsibility to treat them humanely. This isn't about some kind of government benefit being provided to "illegal poor persons," but rather deplorable detention conditions.

They are pretty much offering themselves to custody. At this point I would be fine with pretty much turning a blind eye to anyone that walks in, and turning into a maximum surveillance state (in case and are threats) and mandatory quarantine (with toothbrushes) for anyone who presents at a clinic with TB, Ebola or the newest killer virus as inevitably will happen. Dont see how border patrol can be expected to be a daycare for a random amount of children being processed daily.