Nothing tastes as good as thin feels

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Anonymous wrote:I don't expect you to cheer. But when you criticize smth I expect you to be able to substantiate your words.

NP. Here's our substantive evidence: the family members, friends and colleagues who are always on the hamster wheel and yapping about Keto.

Go ahead and drone on about how "ketchup has sugar, too, ya know." WE KNOW. We also know, from experience, that you'll be "off program" in three months. The weight will come back. Then you'll be "on program"--loudly, visibly--again in a few months, and you'll lose a few pounds.

If you keep the weight off for 5 years, I'll be interested in hearing more. Until then, please don't bother yammering to me.

It’s ezactly this. Just swap the trend words- “clean” “macro”” isogenix””beach body” paleo””Adkins””cabbage soup diet” etc.

I’m glad it’s working for you at this moment- but I will never support a system which costs billions in health and only makes people fatter.

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You know what feels/tastes even better? Eating good food without deprivation and still being slim! And this is so not hard to do at all. And yes, to above pp fasting clears your mind, however it seems to me that people around the world forgot that you don't need to eat all the time and we now have the invention of IF?!!! Isn't there anyone here form 70 and 80 when you would go on a trip or be in school all day and never eat until late afternoon or dinner and you were perfectly fine? I sure did, and didn't feel hungry. Regular meal eating has disappeared all around the world, and people are eating non stop. I cherish my body and my food, and the result? I am slim by US standard, and have never been more than 5lbs overweight. So, yeah, eating and being skinny feels even better. Most of people can do it too, they just forgot how.

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Anonymous wrote:You know what feels/tastes even better? Eating good food without deprivation and still being slim! And this is so not hard to do at all. And yes, to above pp fasting clears your mind, however it seems to me that people around the world forgot that you don't need to eat all the time and we now have the invention of IF?!!! Isn't there anyone here form 70 and 80 when you would go on a trip or be in school all day and never eat until late afternoon or dinner and you were perfectly fine? I sure did, and didn't feel hungry. Regular meal eating has disappeared all around the world, and people are eating non stop. I cherish my body and my food, and the result? I am slim by US standard, and have never been more than 5lbs overweight. So, yeah, eating and being skinny feels even better. Most of people can do it too, they just forgot how.

+1. I did have to focus to get my baby weight off, both times. But other than that, I have maintained a healthy weight my whole life by simply listening to and respecting my body.

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People who pontificate on here about the one way to lose weight are hilarious. There's a reason it's a billion dollar industry and that reason isn't that people are lazy or stupid because everyone diets, thin and fat people. It's because there are many factors at play. It's like everything in life, you can be rich and put your kids in private school and they'll turn out to be losers. There's no one way to get things. For some Keto works, for others high carb, for others cardio, for others weight. Surprise, we're not all the same.

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The ______ has sugar people drive me crazy. When was the last time you ate a whole bottle of ketchup?

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Anonymous wrote:People who pontificate on here about the one way to lose weight are hilarious. There's a reason it's a billion dollar industry and that reason isn't that people are lazy or stupid because everyone diets, thin and fat people. It's because there are many factors at play. It's like everything in life, you can be rich and put your kids in private school and they'll turn out to be losers. There's no one way to get things. For some Keto works, for others high carb, for others cardio, for others weight. Surprise, we're not all the same.

All of these are remedies after you forgot how to listen to your body. What you didn't notice the extra 10lbs? And then 20, 30lbs when you reached for that third snack after dinner? Somehow rich or poor 30 years ago majority of people were slim. Yes, I agree that the food industry is using us as pigs to slaughter and pharmaceutical industry is encouraging it, both for profit. What I am trying to say is that keto, weight, WW, diet fads are only here because people threw their brains out the door, when it comes to proper eating habits. Sure, add was there for Pringles, but YOU/ME paid for it. I saw a lady at work yesterday, quite overweight, on the 5th floor stay late because elevator was broken. The thin worker, took stair up and down several times. My point is, you should never get to the point that you have more than 10-20 lbs to lose in a first place. If you do, look in the mirror for whom to blame.

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Anonymous wrote:Having just put in the work needed to take off 40 pounds, I agree with you Op. There is no food so wonderful tasting that it would be worth regaining those 40 pounds only to have to struggle to take them back off. Lasagna, pie, pizza, cookies - so not worth it.

I indulge a little here and there but it's in a manageable way.

I don't look down on morbidly obese people. I would imagine that having so much weight to lose would be overwhelming. But you've got to start somewhere...

Some of us never abused food, or our bodies, and not fear lasagna and pie.

It’s always the people who had 40 pounds to lose in the first place who think they are sooooooo virtuous...

This exactly. Ugh. I've had many people in my life drop 20-40 pounds, and beyond. Many due to hard work, which I admire. But still, people who have maintained a healthy weight their whole lives DO NOT NEED TO BE LECTURED about how "lasagna, pie, pizza cookies" are "so not worth it."

We know how to enjoy all of those things without overdoing it, thanks. That's why we've always been able to wear clothing in straight sizes, etc. We've managed to do it without obsession, thanks.

Where on earth do you get that I'm lecturing you? I simply stated that FOR ME there is no food worth going back to being 40 pounds heavier. If I eat too many carbs (probably a normal serving for you) I become prediabetic. My insulin levels go up and I store fat. All the exercise and whole grains are not going to take it off. I have no choice but to cut out carbs in my daily diet, lose weight and have higher carbs on only special occasions, usually followed by a fast.

That's what I need to do. If you can eat Corn Flakes and Lean Pockets every day more power to you (doesn't mean that it's healthy, tho).

Do you get that people who eat a ***normal, healthy*** diet are not eating trash? A piece of homemade lasaga, or pie, or a good-quality pizza, or a good-quality cookie, are not garbage. Lean Pockets and Corn Flakes are trash.

Again, you're try to make normal/healthy eating seem like trashy/horrible eating. I'm going back to the A) B) C) eating examples above.

I'm sorry you can't live your life in the B) category. But that doesn't mean you get to put me in the C) category.

Your lovely homemade lasagna and pie will spike my insulin and make me store fat for days. That is what it means to have too much insulin in your blood. Thankfully, I know how to manage it by eating foods that are good for me.

When i was younger I was thin. Then suddenly I started to put on weight as I got older. My metabolism changed. My hormones have changed. You either adapt to it and figure out what you need to do to stay healthy or you continue to gain weight.

OK, and that's all fine. But you don't get to say that someone who eats a normal, healthy diet is eating "Lean Pockets and Corn Flakes." Homemade lasagna might not work for your particular system, but that doesn't make it preservative-filled, highly processed, frozen trash food. Stop miscasting a normal diet as a junk diet.

Again, sorry you can't enjoy a normal, healthy diet. Truly, I'm sorry--that sounds very difficult. There's nothing to say that I might not be in the same boat in 10 years. But if and when I have to eat a restricted diet, I won't go around tooting my own keto horn, and miscasting people who eat a healthy/balanced/normal diet as people who eat garbage food on the reg.

Prediabetes/insulin resistance is not unusual these days at all. That's why Keto and other low carb diets are so popular - they keep blood sugar level which controls hunger. You lose weight w/o suffering to create a calorie deficit.

Too many starchy/sugary carbs are not good for me. I accept that and I eat what is good for my body. If I'm craving pizza I can have a low carb version that tastes delicious. If I want a peanut butter cup - there are low carb, Keto friendly versions out there. It's actually not a hard diet to be on.

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Anonymous wrote:The ______ has sugar people drive me crazy. When was the last time you ate a whole bottle of ketchup?

There is almost 4gr of sugar in a tablespoon of ketchup.That is more sugar than in a cookie. Not sure what your point is?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/wellness/do-you-know-how-much-sugar-is-in-your-ketchup/2015/06/02/9496b77e-fe5f-11e4-833c-a2de05b6b2a4_story.html?utm_term=.c421b2ead8d2

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Anonymous wrote:The ______ has sugar people drive me crazy. When was the last time you ate a whole bottle of ketchup?

There is almost 4gr of sugar in a tablespoon of ketchup.That is more sugar than in a cookie. Not sure what your point is?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/wellness/do-you-know-how-much-sugar-is-in-your-ketchup/2015/06/02/9496b77e-fe5f-11e4-833c-a2de05b6b2a4_story.html?utm_term=.c421b2ead8d2

Sounds like a good excuse to eat cookies.

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^^ counterpoints