Anonymous wrote:OP back. We talked. I think we're done.
He called and chatted about his day for about 10 minutes, describes how busy he's going to be these next few weeks. I'm thinking "ok dude, just lower the boom so we can all move on." He doesn't. Keeps chatting about this or that, asking about DD's day, etc. Finally I say (almost out of sheer exasperation) "Did you just call to catch up? Or was there something specific you wanted to talk about?" He says, "like what?". Lol.
So I just took the bull by the horns: "We had a somewhat confusing interaction this weekend. Seems it's a little unclear about where we stand." He says, "sure ok, we can talk about that". And basically reiterated how important friendship is to him, how he needs to build that first, etc. I said I agree! Friendship gets totally overlooked as a priority in a relationship and if you get hot & heavy too fast, it's hard to solve problems later. I said I'm glad you feel that way. But, I said, I'm not a game player, never have been. And I am interested in a romantic partner at some point, and it's not clear to me that you are. You're really flirty with me over text and in person, but when it comes to physicality it seems you have two feet on the break. He says "what have I suggested I want via my texts?". I said, "that you want to be more than my friend." He had...no real response for that. I said "look, I like you. I think I've made that clear. Sounds like you have a busy couple of weeks. Think it over and maybe we'll connect in the future; best of luck."
So yeah, I think we're done here. In my experience, it's just not this complicated early on, and I don't need to talk someone into kissing me for Pete's sake. I'm not asking the guy for sex or a ring or to meet his mother....but if all he wants is a dinner companion...well, I'd like more. Like a kiss, some passion, recognition of mutual desire. I mean come on, we're 40-something and 50-something. We're not dead yet. I think that's reasonable.
tldr: Pretty sure he just wants a friend. That's OK. I need more. I texted gym guy. He's going to come inspect my plumbing this week.
So, in a totally different phase of my life (both early 20s; in school together; never been married), I had a very similar convo w/ now-DH after a similar number of dates w/ mixed signals. Eventually I started dating someone else. He got jealous, made his move and 15 years later we're married with 3 kids. In his case, it was weird quasi-religious guilt. Even now he can't exactly explain it, but he has surprisingly religiously-influenced views on things from his upbringing even though he's not explicitly religious now at all. Not saying it's exactly the same with your guy, but there could be some kind of background issue at play.
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