Woman killed while jogging near Logan Circle

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so sad. if it were a robbery went awry, it seems like a jogger is a stupid target, compared to, say, a drunk person leaving a bar, who would more likely have money on them. obviously both are horrible, but i never carry anything with me when i run.

condolences to family and friend.

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Anonymous wrote:Regardless of the idiot upthread who said it was dangerous to "think like that", women do need to be safe--meaning we need to be vigilant and aware of our surroundings when alone. We will always be prey for crazy men simply because we are (mostly) physically weaker. This is nothing new. Waiting for men to change how they act is not a solution so stay safe, ladies!

This! x a million.

Act like you live in our current world, not the way you think things "should be." So many people just don't get this.

minus a million

That's how we get to living in a society like Saudi, where women can't go out, travel alone, dress a certain way, because men can't control themselves or their actions. Give the men a curfew. Start redirecting, and telling men to be responsible - explicitly assert: don't attack, don't rape, don't shoot, don't kill, don't assault, etc. When you keep putting it on the shoulders of women, the entitlement of men and boys grow - they have no reason to change their end.

I am a female runner, and I am f*cking tired of this sh!t.

That's quite a leap you're making.

I'm a female runner as well, and I know enough to not run in unsafe situations. It's not that hard.

And lol at "explicitly assert: don't attack, don't rape, don't shoot, don't kill, don't assault, etc." I'm sure they'll listen!

Really? So what did the victim do wrong here? She was running in a populated, largely safe urban neighborhood before dark.

Are we sure it wasn't dark? Incident occurred around 8pm. The sun set yesterday at 7:13. Looks pretty dark out on the surveillance video, too.

WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?! Who the eff cares if it was totally dark, or maybe dusk, or even if it was pitch black. Women should be able to run at night, ALONE, anytime of day without morons on the internet saying THEY should have done something differently to "be safe". This woman did nothing wrong. She was violently attacked and murdered for seemingly no reason. If that doesn't send chills up your spine, seek help. But arguing about the status of daylight is not the point of the arguments above. You are part of the problem.

Of course they should be able to. Absolutely. But they can’t. Because it’s not safe. Wishful thinking does not make it otherwise.

That's completely absurd. So you think 50% of the population should be crippled in their ability to get to and from work, pick up their kids from aftercare/daycare, etc? The sun sets a FIVE PM at the height of winter!

Actually I think we are in agreement. We both believe that all people (women and men both) should be safe in that area at all times. But I am saying that it is currently not safe for anyone. That’s a fact. And we should demand that that change, by enforcing vagrancy laws and eradicating the prostitution in the area for starters. But the DC Government seems unwilling or unable to do that sadly.

Also absurd. Although this was an awful tragedy, we don't need to sweep the streets of all homeless people or exaggerate the actual situation. The reason this was so shocking is because it was rare.

Really? That's what the police want you to think, but actually it is shockingly common. We used to live very close to where this attack took place (10th and M) and in a matter of a few years, there were three murders around us. In fact, my husband was severely beaten (into a coma) close by.

People seem to have forgotten these as well -

https://wtop.com/dc/2017/09/dc-man-pleads-guilty-christmas-killing-yoga-teacher/

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/lawyer-killer-24-years-lux-hotel-murder-article-1.2334575

These crimes are totally different. One is not anywhere close to this neighborhood - this is NOT Bloomingdale. And the other was a craigslist setup.

Different poster. It's a mile from Bloomingdale, which is hardly "not anywhere close" and that crime was a mentally ill homeless man so certainly in the realm of this discussion here.

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Anonymous wrote:This and the woman brutally attacked by the police station on cap hill (thank god not killed) both sound to me like hate crimes. Very violent, not sexual, nothing stolen, umc young white women.

Actually I was thinking they both sound like random attacks by mentally ill drug users. WOC get attacked all the time; we just don't hear about. I seriously doubt race played a role, but race is why we're here talking about this murder instead of many others.

Please post the many others.

Seriously?

Let's start here: https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/woman-fatally-stabbed-saturday-afternoon-in-northeast-washington/2018/04/01/8f9ab2f8-35c4-11e8-8fd2-49fe3c675a89_story.html?utm_term=.f487c2e71c43

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Anonymous wrote:This and the woman brutally attacked by the police station on cap hill (thank god not killed) both sound to me like hate crimes. Very violent, not sexual, nothing stolen, umc young white women.

Actually I was thinking they both sound like random attacks by mentally ill drug users. WOC get attacked all the time; we just don't hear about. I seriously doubt race played a role, but race is why we're here talking about this murder instead of many others.

Please post the many others.

Seriously?

Let's start here: https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/woman-fatally-stabbed-saturday-afternoon-in-northeast-washington/2018/04/01/8f9ab2f8-35c4-11e8-8fd2-49fe3c675a89_story.html?utm_term=.f487c2e71c43

And then here: https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/the-very-american-killing-of-nia-wilson

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She was standing at a crosswalk in a populated area, cars, people in restaurants who claim they saw her from windows...who could be vigilant when someone is coming at you with a knife (or whatever they choose to attack you with). Completely caught off guard.

It’s haunting me that she managed to get into that restaurant for help and point to attacker outside. Those poor men that tried to save her, God have mercy!

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I do not understand how this attacker has not been found. The shirt color alone is so easily recognizable.

Where did he go? If you live in that area or anywhere along Rhode Island Avenue, how are you not scared to death?

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What is the make and model of the criminal

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Anonymous wrote:The prostitutes don’t come around until close to 5am (construction worker clients). They are completely irrelevant to a conversation about 8pm. Although I have said it is insane to think it is unsafe to run at 8pm here, I personally wouldn’t feel safe running at5am.

This thread is enough to give anyone serious pause about living in Logan Circle or nearby neighborhoods, I must say.

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Anonymous wrote:The prostitutes don’t come around until close to 5am (construction worker clients). They are completely irrelevant to a conversation about 8pm. Although I have said it is insane to think it is unsafe to run at 8pm here, I personally wouldn’t feel safe running at5am.

This thread is enough to give anyone serious pause about living in Logan Circle or nearby neighborhoods, I must say.

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I cannot even stand driving up and down Rhode Island Avenue to get to work. Logan Circle is beautiful, though.

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Anonymous wrote:Race crime for sure.

Well, maybe if the roles were reversed. A disheveled white man stumbling after, stalking, attacking and killing a young black professional woman out for a jog.

Yeah, that would knock Kavenaugh off the lead on all the cable channels, definitely.



But this isn't that.


This will quietly go away.

We don't have to imagine it; we just went through it with the Nia Wilson murder.

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Anonymous wrote:A woman was stabbed while jogging near Logan Circle last night. The report said that she was waiting to cross 11th and P St. when three men attacked her. She died.

It happened before 8:00PM. That's really not late, especially in such a popular dining neighborhood. There would have been plenty of people around. Be safe out there, ladies.

https://wjla.com/news/local/woman-stabbed-in-logan-circle

Are you suggesting that this woman who was killed was doing something unsafe?

SERIOUSLY!?

[Anonymous]

DC thugs have something against white women and little black girls... that yoga instructor was murdered back on Christmas day 2016 and the little girl was shot and killed recently AND now this !!!

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Anonymous wrote:DC thugs have something against white women and little black girls... that yoga instructor was murdered back on Christmas day 2016 and the little girl was shot and killed recently AND now this !!!

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The little girl was an accidental bystander shooting. Better to bring up Nia Wilson. Who was also stabbed in the neck and left to die. Not even three months ago.

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I just walked by that corner. There were close to a hundred people within my eyesight. I don’t think you people realize how busy and populated it is.

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Anonymous wrote:What is the make and model of the criminal

Newsham said the killer is described as a black man wearing a mustard-colored shirt that went to his thigh area, along with dark-colored sweatpants that were slightly rolled up. The man wore white socks and light-colored sandals, according to Newsham. He fled south on 11th Street NW.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/woman-stabbed-in-popular-logan-circle-neighborhood-of-dc/2018/09/19/cff93ae8-bbf9-11e8-9812-a389be6690af_story.html?utm_term=.5d1794426e1f