APS: What's in a name? (Washington-Lee)

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Maybe Daniel Snyder could buy APS. Then it would all be moot, right?

And we could just call W-L the high school with "The Generals".

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Anonymous wrote:I guess we should change the name of "Arlington" as well. After all, it's named after the traitor Lee's plantation.

Anyway, we can just drop Lee and change Washingron to honor a different Virginian, Booker T. Washington. Done. Mascot can be the peanuts.

Do you mean George Washington Carver?

I meant Booker, because he was a Virginian, but I accidentally conflated the two men (after looking up famous people with "Washington" in their names). So, peanut wouldn't work as a mascot. I can't find anyone with the last name Lee, however.

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Anonymous wrote:Didn't they teach logic in some PP's schools? Cleansing history does not equate to glorifying idiots via naming public institutions after them.

They aren not the same thing

They taught us math. If you spend your money here, you no longer have it to spend there. They also taught us the meaning of the word hypocrisy. As in - don’t kick out one of the few historically back PU’s zoned to your school and then want a cookie for changing a name. What’s in a name? Nothing. It means nothing, because we don’t live our values.

Spare us your sanctimonious bullshit.

Ah, its the dude who loves that word. It's like a thumbprint, you use it whenever someone calls you for being a limo liberal.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would the Hispanics in South Arlington support BLM? You Ds are so fricking confusing.

Few in south Arlington care much about this. It’s a Distraction.

It *is* no big deal. Except to the white supremacists. And SA whiners.

It’s costing a lot of money, and the county is strapped. Find a cheaper way to virtue signal.

Arlington is too cash-strapped to get rid of a Confederate name? Really?

Nope. It’s not. Plus, getting rid of a bunch of bus routes should cover it.

Exactly. Keep those schools walkable and segregated. Good stuff.

Huh, TIL having schools be walkable is segregation with whiffs of white supremacy. Fascinating!

Not only that, did you know that most North Arlington neighborhoods had racial covenants (until they were outlawed) that ensured local neighborhoods and schools would remain segregated? Or did you think it was just a coincidence that NA looks like it does? Yes, walkable schools are appealing to everyone but there's no denying that in Arlington County that demand also leverages a history of racist exclusion in North Arlington and one of concentrated poverty in South Arlington.

Cool. Do you want poors with low test scores in your kid’s school? Didnt think so.

Yes, I do. And because I believe in integration, that means not only do I want a mix of kids them in my south Arlington elementary, I also want a mix in your north Arlington elementary.

I want a mix at my kids’ schools too. And I want walkable/short bus. They are NOT mutually exclusive. We are fortunate to have both.

Most parents prioritized proximity.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would the Hispanics in South Arlington support BLM? You Ds are so fricking confusing.

Few in south Arlington care much about this. It’s a Distraction.

It *is* no big deal. Except to the white supremacists. And SA whiners.

It’s costing a lot of money, and the county is strapped. Find a cheaper way to virtue signal.

Arlington is too cash-strapped to get rid of a Confederate name? Really?

Nope. It’s not. Plus, getting rid of a bunch of bus routes should cover it.

Exactly. Keep those schools walkable and segregated. Good stuff.

Huh, TIL having schools be walkable is segregation with whiffs of white supremacy. Fascinating!

Not only that, did you know that most North Arlington neighborhoods had racial covenants (until they were outlawed) that ensured local neighborhoods and schools would remain segregated? Or did you think it was just a coincidence that NA looks like it does? Yes, walkable schools are appealing to everyone but there's no denying that in Arlington County that demand also leverages a history of racist exclusion in North Arlington and one of concentrated poverty in South Arlington.

Cool. Do you want poors with low test scores in your kid’s school? Didnt think so.

Yes, I do. And because I believe in integration, that means not only do I want a mix of kids them in my south Arlington elementary, I also want a mix in your north Arlington elementary.

I want a mix at my kids’ schools too. And I want walkable/short bus. They are NOT mutually exclusive. We are fortunate to have both.

Most parents prioritized proximity.

I'm curious which elementary you think is well integrated.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would the Hispanics in South Arlington support BLM? You Ds are so fricking confusing.

Few in south Arlington care much about this. It’s a Distraction.

It *is* no big deal. Except to the white supremacists. And SA whiners.

It’s costing a lot of money, and the county is strapped. Find a cheaper way to virtue signal.

Arlington is too cash-strapped to get rid of a Confederate name? Really?

Nope. It’s not. Plus, getting rid of a bunch of bus routes should cover it.

Exactly. Keep those schools walkable and segregated. Good stuff.

Huh, TIL having schools be walkable is segregation with whiffs of white supremacy. Fascinating!

Not only that, did you know that most North Arlington neighborhoods had racial covenants (until they were outlawed) that ensured local neighborhoods and schools would remain segregated? Or did you think it was just a coincidence that NA looks like it does? Yes, walkable schools are appealing to everyone but there's no denying that in Arlington County that demand also leverages a history of racist exclusion in North Arlington and one of concentrated poverty in South Arlington.

Cool. Do you want poors with low test scores in your kid’s school? Didnt think so.

Yes, I do. And because I believe in integration, that means not only do I want a mix of kids them in my south Arlington elementary, I also want a mix in your north Arlington elementary.

I want a mix at my kids’ schools too. And I want walkable/short bus. They are NOT mutually exclusive. We are fortunate to have both.

Most parents prioritized proximity.

I'm curious which elementary you think is well integrated.

If they are a Henry parent, they will say Henry to bolster the case for why all of Henry should be moved together to Fleet, because they live a little too far south in the zone and the idea of being rezoned to Drew makes them really squeamish.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would the Hispanics in South Arlington support BLM? You Ds are so fricking confusing.

Few in south Arlington care much about this. It’s a Distraction.

It *is* no big deal. Except to the white supremacists. And SA whiners.

It’s costing a lot of money, and the county is strapped. Find a cheaper way to virtue signal.

Arlington is too cash-strapped to get rid of a Confederate name? Really?

Nope. It’s not. Plus, getting rid of a bunch of bus routes should cover it.

Exactly. Keep those schools walkable and segregated. Good stuff.

Huh, TIL having schools be walkable is segregation with whiffs of white supremacy. Fascinating!

Not only that, did you know that most North Arlington neighborhoods had racial covenants (until they were outlawed) that ensured local neighborhoods and schools would remain segregated? Or did you think it was just a coincidence that NA looks like it does? Yes, walkable schools are appealing to everyone but there's no denying that in Arlington County that demand also leverages a history of racist exclusion in North Arlington and one of concentrated poverty in South Arlington.

Cool. Do you want poors with low test scores in your kid’s school? Didnt think so.

Yes, I do. And because I believe in integration, that means not only do I want a mix of kids them in my south Arlington elementary, I also want a mix in your north Arlington elementary.

I want a mix at my kids’ schools too. And I want walkable/short bus. They are NOT mutually exclusive. We are fortunate to have both.

Most parents prioritized proximity.

I'm curious which elementary you think is well integrated.

If they are a Henry parent, they will say Henry to bolster the case for why all of Henry should be moved together to Fleet, because they live a little too far south in the zone and the idea of being rezoned to Drew makes them really squeamish.

Well, it kinda should make anyone squeamish to go to a school that is 70% poor. It's good for nothing except the convenient administration of wrap around services, and harmful in every other way, especially classroom instruction and extracurricular options. For all kids, it's just a bad thing.

I've examined PU level numbers APS is using to create boundary scenarios and there is simply no way Drew will have a farms rate under 65%. In fact, it will probably be higher because simple counts don't take into account the fact that high farms rates scare off the middle class and make the student that much more disadvantaged.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would the Hispanics in South Arlington support BLM? You Ds are so fricking confusing.

Few in south Arlington care much about this. It’s a Distraction.

It *is* no big deal. Except to the white supremacists. And SA whiners.

It’s costing a lot of money, and the county is strapped. Find a cheaper way to virtue signal.

Arlington is too cash-strapped to get rid of a Confederate name? Really?

Nope. It’s not. Plus, getting rid of a bunch of bus routes should cover it.

Exactly. Keep those schools walkable and segregated. Good stuff.

Huh, TIL having schools be walkable is segregation with whiffs of white supremacy. Fascinating!

Not only that, did you know that most North Arlington neighborhoods had racial covenants (until they were outlawed) that ensured local neighborhoods and schools would remain segregated? Or did you think it was just a coincidence that NA looks like it does? Yes, walkable schools are appealing to everyone but there's no denying that in Arlington County that demand also leverages a history of racist exclusion in North Arlington and one of concentrated poverty in South Arlington.

Cool. Do you want poors with low test scores in your kid’s school? Didnt think so.

Yes, I do. And because I believe in integration, that means not only do I want a mix of kids them in my south Arlington elementary, I also want a mix in your north Arlington elementary.

I want a mix at my kids’ schools too. And I want walkable/short bus. They are NOT mutually exclusive. We are fortunate to have both.

Most parents prioritized proximity.

I'm curious which elementary you think is well integrated.

If they are a Henry parent, they will say Henry to bolster the case for why all of Henry should be moved together to Fleet, because they live a little too far south in the zone and the idea of being rezoned to Drew makes them really squeamish.

Well, it kinda should make anyone squeamish to go to a school that is 70% poor. It's good for nothing except the convenient administration of wrap around services, and harmful in every other way, especially classroom instruction and extracurricular options. For all kids, it's just a bad thing.

I've examined PU level numbers APS is using to create boundary scenarios and there is simply no way Drew will have a farms rate under 65%. In fact, it will probably be higher because simple counts don't take into account the fact that high farms rates scare off the middle class and make the student that much more disadvantaged.

They haven't released any actual boundary scenarios, so I have no idea how you've done this. If they move the Berkely to Drew, you are probably right. If they don't, and they shouldn't, it won't be that high.

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^ but let’s change that high school name! Once we’ve tackled that, we’re good!

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APS has explicitly stated they won’t be releasing the FARMS rates for individual PU’s for the south Arlington elementary boundary shift. I’m not saying the above poster doesn’t have the numbers, they might and if they have figured out how to get that info, please publish it PP.
People need to hold their ( APS) feet to the fire and get those numbers. It is going to be a terrible look when it’s published that we have a single PU with 100+ disadvantaged kids. The county needs to start answering for their terrible housing policies. APS shouldn’t be providing cover for the county board. Make them answer for the decisions made and money spent.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would the Hispanics in South Arlington support BLM? You Ds are so fricking confusing.

Few in south Arlington care much about this. It’s a Distraction.

It *is* no big deal. Except to the white supremacists. And SA whiners.

It’s costing a lot of money, and the county is strapped. Find a cheaper way to virtue signal.

Arlington is too cash-strapped to get rid of a Confederate name? Really?

Nope. It’s not. Plus, getting rid of a bunch of bus routes should cover it.

Exactly. Keep those schools walkable and segregated. Good stuff.

Huh, TIL having schools be walkable is segregation with whiffs of white supremacy. Fascinating!

Not only that, did you know that most North Arlington neighborhoods had racial covenants (until they were outlawed) that ensured local neighborhoods and schools would remain segregated? Or did you think it was just a coincidence that NA looks like it does? Yes, walkable schools are appealing to everyone but there's no denying that in Arlington County that demand also leverages a history of racist exclusion in North Arlington and one of concentrated poverty in South Arlington.

Cool. Do you want poors with low test scores in your kid’s school? Didnt think so.

Yes, I do. And because I believe in integration, that means not only do I want a mix of kids them in my south Arlington elementary, I also want a mix in your north Arlington elementary.

I want a mix at my kids’ schools too. And I want walkable/short bus. They are NOT mutually exclusive. We are fortunate to have both.

Most parents prioritized proximity.

I'm curious which elementary you think is well integrated.

If they are a Henry parent, they will say Henry to bolster the case for why all of Henry should be moved together to Fleet, because they live a little too far south in the zone and the idea of being rezoned to Drew makes them really squeamish.

Well, it kinda should make anyone squeamish to go to a school that is 70% poor. It's good for nothing except the convenient administration of wrap around services, and harmful in every other way, especially classroom instruction and extracurricular options. For all kids, it's just a bad thing.

I've examined PU level numbers APS is using to create boundary scenarios and there is simply no way Drew will have a farms rate under 65%. In fact, it will probably be higher because simple counts don't take into account the fact that high farms rates scare off the middle class and make the student that much more disadvantaged.

They haven't released any actual boundary scenarios, so I have no idea how you've done this. If they move the Berkely to Drew, you are probably right. If they don't, and they shouldn't, it won't be that high.

APS has released a PDF table of PU numbers. It's the link titled "Draft Select Planning Unit Level Enrollment Estimates 2019 to 2021" and is available on the engage site here: https://www.apsva.us/elementary-school-boundary-change/

Very easy to convert to a spreadsheet and create ones own scenarios using the published planning unit map for reference. I didn't bother putting it in GIS software but that'd be trivial.

The APS figure for the Berkeley is laughably low, but my estimate of 65% excludes the Berkeley. It will be 80% if the Berkeley is included.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would the Hispanics in South Arlington support BLM? You Ds are so fricking confusing.

Few in south Arlington care much about this. It’s a Distraction.

It *is* no big deal. Except to the white supremacists. And SA whiners.

It’s costing a lot of money, and the county is strapped. Find a cheaper way to virtue signal.

Arlington is too cash-strapped to get rid of a Confederate name? Really?

Nope. It’s not. Plus, getting rid of a bunch of bus routes should cover it.

Exactly. Keep those schools walkable and segregated. Good stuff.

Huh, TIL having schools be walkable is segregation with whiffs of white supremacy. Fascinating!

Not only that, did you know that most North Arlington neighborhoods had racial covenants (until they were outlawed) that ensured local neighborhoods and schools would remain segregated? Or did you think it was just a coincidence that NA looks like it does? Yes, walkable schools are appealing to everyone but there's no denying that in Arlington County that demand also leverages a history of racist exclusion in North Arlington and one of concentrated poverty in South Arlington.

Cool. Do you want poors with low test scores in your kid’s school? Didnt think so.

Yes, I do. And because I believe in integration, that means not only do I want a mix of kids them in my south Arlington elementary, I also want a mix in your north Arlington elementary.

I want a mix at my kids’ schools too. And I want walkable/short bus. They are NOT mutually exclusive. We are fortunate to have both.

Most parents prioritized proximity.

I'm curious which elementary you think is well integrated.

If they are a Henry parent, they will say Henry to bolster the case for why all of Henry should be moved together to Fleet, because they live a little too far south in the zone and the idea of being rezoned to Drew makes them really squeamish.

Well, it kinda should make anyone squeamish to go to a school that is 70% poor. It's good for nothing except the convenient administration of wrap around services, and harmful in every other way, especially classroom instruction and extracurricular options. For all kids, it's just a bad thing.

I've examined PU level numbers APS is using to create boundary scenarios and there is simply no way Drew will have a farms rate under 65%. In fact, it will probably be higher because simple counts don't take into account the fact that high farms rates scare off the middle class and make the student that much more disadvantaged.

They haven't released any actual boundary scenarios, so I have no idea how you've done this. If they move the Berkely to Drew, you are probably right. If they don't, and they shouldn't, it won't be that high.

APS has released a PDF table of PU numbers. It's the link titled "Draft Select Planning Unit Level Enrollment Estimates 2019 to 2021" and is available on the engage site here: https://www.apsva.us/elementary-school-boundary-change/

Very easy to convert to a spreadsheet and create ones own scenarios using the published planning unit map for reference. I didn't bother putting it in GIS software but that'd be trivial.

The APS figure for the Berkeley is laughably low, but my estimate of 65% excludes the Berkeley. It will be 80% if the Berkeley is included.

I like you. You go hard. Get ‘em!

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Anonymous wrote:APS has explicitly stated they won’t be releasing the FARMS rates for individual PU’s for the south Arlington elementary boundary shift. I’m not saying the above poster doesn’t have the numbers, they might and if they have figured out how to get that info, please publish it PP.
People need to hold their ( APS) feet to the fire and get those numbers. It is going to be a terrible look when it’s published that we have a single PU with 100+ disadvantaged kids. The county needs to start answering for their terrible housing policies. APS shouldn’t be providing cover for the county board. Make them answer for the decisions made and money spent.

https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/DRAFT-Planning-Unit-Level-Enrollment-Estimates-2019-to-2021-for-Web.pdf

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Anonymous wrote:APS has explicitly stated they won’t be releasing the FARMS rates for individual PU’s for the south Arlington elementary boundary shift. I’m not saying the above poster doesn’t have the numbers, they might and if they have figured out how to get that info, please publish it PP.
People need to hold their ( APS) feet to the fire and get those numbers. It is going to be a terrible look when it’s published that we have a single PU with 100+ disadvantaged kids. The county needs to start answering for their terrible housing policies. APS shouldn’t be providing cover for the county board. Make them answer for the decisions made and money spent.

https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/DRAFT-Planning-Unit-Level-Enrollment-Estimates-2019-to-2021-for-Web.pdf

Thanks yeah, I saw the post above.
Jamestown has 6 kids. That’s 6 more than I thought.

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Anonymous wrote:APS has explicitly stated they won’t be releasing the FARMS rates for individual PU’s for the south Arlington elementary boundary shift. I’m not saying the above poster doesn’t have the numbers, they might and if they have figured out how to get that info, please publish it PP.
People need to hold their ( APS) feet to the fire and get those numbers. It is going to be a terrible look when it’s published that we have a single PU with 100+ disadvantaged kids. The county needs to start answering for their terrible housing policies. APS shouldn’t be providing cover for the county board. Make them answer for the decisions made and money spent.

https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/DRAFT-Planning-Unit-Level-Enrollment-Estimates-2019-to-2021-for-Web.pdf

Thanks yeah, I saw the post above.
Jamestown has 6 kids. That’s 6 more than I thought.

I predict this link will stop working by COB. Too late. I saved my copy already.