APS: What's in a name? (Washington-Lee)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why would the Hispanics in South Arlington support BLM? You Ds are so fricking confusing.

Few in south Arlington care much about this. It’s a Distraction.

It *is* no big deal. Except to the white supremacists. And SA whiners.

It’s costing a lot of money, and the county is strapped. Find a cheaper way to virtue signal.

Arlington is too cash-strapped to get rid of a Confederate name? Really?

Nope. It’s not. Plus, getting rid of a bunch of bus routes should cover it.

Exactly. Keep those schools walkable and segregated. Good stuff.

Huh, TIL having schools be walkable is segregation with whiffs of white supremacy. Fascinating!

Not only that, did you know that most North Arlington neighborhoods had racial covenants (until they were outlawed) that ensured local neighborhoods and schools would remain segregated? Or did you think it was just a coincidence that NA looks like it does? Yes, walkable schools are appealing to everyone but there's no denying that in Arlington County that demand also leverages a history of racist exclusion in North Arlington and one of concentrated poverty in South Arlington.

Cool. Do you want poors with low test scores in your kid’s school? Didnt think so.

Yes, I do. And because I believe in integration, that means not only do I want a mix of kids them in my south Arlington elementary, I also want a mix in your north Arlington elementary.

I want a mix at my kids’ schools too. And I want walkable/short bus. They are NOT mutually exclusive. We are fortunate to have both.

Most parents prioritized proximity.

I'm curious which elementary you think is well integrated.

Long Branch.

FARM % is approx same as county-wide FARM %

I'm happy for you, but you're the exception. Except for the fortunate few, it's very hard to get access to a school with a student body that resembles the county at large, and isn't dominated either by wealth or poverty. You either must be able to afford a million dollar fixer upper in Lyon Village or win the AH lottery and get placed in a luxury high rise.

It's also pure luck that the handful of neighborhood schools like Long Branch (Oakridge and Henry, Ashlawn) are as integrated as they are. It takes commitment to keep a school integrated and I see no evidence of that from the SB or CB.

Not much of an exception. Most parents we know here as well as Key and ASFS all value diversity and walkability. They aren’t mutually exclusive preferences.

There are more than 20 elementary schools and of those perhaps 4 are neighborhood schools that approximate to county average in terms of farms rate, or could otherwise be called diverse in a meaningful sense...the widespread desire for diversity I don't doubt; it's the access to it that is constrained. And it often falls by the wayside when people think about "quality" or their property values.

If you don't lottery into a AH unit on the orange line, or lottery into an option school, you'd better have a cool million to spend on a house. Not to pry, but it sounds like you do live in such a home. So again, good for you, but your experience is exceptional.

I’m not taking about the experience, but the preference. Like you said, it’s not the case for the majority of the schools, but I wouldn’t assume just because someone isn’t at a walkable school or a diverse school that they don’t value those things.

No ones making that assumption, but it's pretty clear that the parents with the ear of the SB value other things more.

[Anonymous]

No ones making that assumption, but it's pretty clear that the parents with the ear of the SB value other things more.

There are different contingents appealing to the SB. I know at least one group who is trying to preserve diversity at their school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why would the Hispanics in South Arlington support BLM? You Ds are so fricking confusing.

Few in south Arlington care much about this. It’s a Distraction.

It *is* no big deal. Except to the white supremacists. And SA whiners.

It’s costing a lot of money, and the county is strapped. Find a cheaper way to virtue signal.

Arlington is too cash-strapped to get rid of a Confederate name? Really?

Nope. It’s not. Plus, getting rid of a bunch of bus routes should cover it.

Exactly. Keep those schools walkable and segregated. Good stuff.

Huh, TIL having schools be walkable is segregation with whiffs of white supremacy. Fascinating!

Not only that, did you know that most North Arlington neighborhoods had racial covenants (until they were outlawed) that ensured local neighborhoods and schools would remain segregated? Or did you think it was just a coincidence that NA looks like it does? Yes, walkable schools are appealing to everyone but there's no denying that in Arlington County that demand also leverages a history of racist exclusion in North Arlington and one of concentrated poverty in South Arlington.

Cool. Do you want poors with low test scores in your kid’s school? Didnt think so.

Yes, I do. And because I believe in integration, that means not only do I want a mix of kids them in my south Arlington elementary, I also want a mix in your north Arlington elementary.

Your school is already filled to the brim with poors and low test scores. You want lots of white, non-farms, high scores kids to dilute the poors/low test scores. The only way you can get what you want is by forcing your kid into the NA elementary or by trading lots of your school’s poors/low test scores for whites, non-farm/ high test scores. However, as your school is constitited right now, if someone told you, we are going to bus poors/low test score kids into your kids’s school and we arent offsetting them by adding whites/high test acores, you would say, the hell you are!! That’s my point- no one is in favor of dumbing down the student body, no matter how dumb it may or may not already be.

Sorry angry dude, you're describing yourself, not me. I think there's value in going to an integrated school. You're terrified of poor people and I don't know why, but it's your hang up and apparently it's easy to freak you out by advocating that NA schools integrate.

Im not angry or freaked out. Im pointing out that you do not favor lowering the academic quality of the student body in your kids’ school by busing poors/low test scores into your kid’s school.

Well, I live in south Arlington so it's not even an option to "lower the academic quality of the student body" but it's also a meaningless concept. I favor integration and if I had $1m to live in a house zoned to Long Branch I'd still favor having a diverse student body. I'm not the hypocrite you think I am.

If the SB told you they were bussing in poors/low test scores to your kid’s current school, you would be apoplectic. But you criticize the parents of kids in Taylor, etc, bc they have a negative reaction when the SB tells them that it may bus in poors/low test scores into their kid’s school. Every parent in SA or NA with a kid in a school will react negatively if the sb tells them we are bussing poors/low test scores to their kid’s school. Poors/low test scores have a propensity to damage the learning environment. And at a certain percentage, the school is academically destroyed.

Dude, what part of "I'm from SA" don't you get? My school is among the poorest. It couldn't even be made poorer than it is now. You're imagining yourself as some sort of victim, and that your naked classism and fear of other people not like you isn't the detestable thing it is.

Unless your school is100% poors, its not as poor as it can be. Understand?? The SB now tells you it plans to send even more poors to your school. And you would be unhappy about that, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why would the Hispanics in South Arlington support BLM? You Ds are so fricking confusing.

Few in south Arlington care much about this. It’s a Distraction.

It *is* no big deal. Except to the white supremacists. And SA whiners.

It’s costing a lot of money, and the county is strapped. Find a cheaper way to virtue signal.

Arlington is too cash-strapped to get rid of a Confederate name? Really?

Nope. It’s not. Plus, getting rid of a bunch of bus routes should cover it.

Exactly. Keep those schools walkable and segregated. Good stuff.

Huh, TIL having schools be walkable is segregation with whiffs of white supremacy. Fascinating!

Not only that, did you know that most North Arlington neighborhoods had racial covenants (until they were outlawed) that ensured local neighborhoods and schools would remain segregated? Or did you think it was just a coincidence that NA looks like it does? Yes, walkable schools are appealing to everyone but there's no denying that in Arlington County that demand also leverages a history of racist exclusion in North Arlington and one of concentrated poverty in South Arlington.

Cool. Do you want poors with low test scores in your kid’s school? Didnt think so.

Yes, I do. And because I believe in integration, that means not only do I want a mix of kids them in my south Arlington elementary, I also want a mix in your north Arlington elementary.

Your school is already filled to the brim with poors and low test scores. You want lots of white, non-farms, high scores kids to dilute the poors/low test scores. The only way you can get what you want is by forcing your kid into the NA elementary or by trading lots of your school’s poors/low test scores for whites, non-farm/ high test scores. However, as your school is constitited right now, if someone told you, we are going to bus poors/low test score kids into your kids’s school and we arent offsetting them by adding whites/high test acores, you would say, the hell you are!! That’s my point- no one is in favor of dumbing down the student body, no matter how dumb it may or may not already be.

Sorry angry dude, you're describing yourself, not me. I think there's value in going to an integrated school. You're terrified of poor people and I don't know why, but it's your hang up and apparently it's easy to freak you out by advocating that NA schools integrate.

Im not angry or freaked out. Im pointing out that you do not favor lowering the academic quality of the student body in your kids’ school by busing poors/low test scores into your kid’s school.

Well, I live in south Arlington so it's not even an option to "lower the academic quality of the student body" but it's also a meaningless concept. I favor integration and if I had $1m to live in a house zoned to Long Branch I'd still favor having a diverse student body. I'm not the hypocrite you think I am.

If the SB told you they were bussing in poors/low test scores to your kid’s current school, you would be apoplectic. But you criticize the parents of kids in Taylor, etc, bc they have a negative reaction when the SB tells them that it may bus in poors/low test scores into their kid’s school. Every parent in SA or NA with a kid in a school will react negatively if the sb tells them we are bussing poors/low test scores to their kid’s school. Poors/low test scores have a propensity to damage the learning environment. And at a certain percentage, the school is academically destroyed.

Dude, what part of "I'm from SA" don't you get? My school is among the poorest. It couldn't even be made poorer than it is now. You're imagining yourself as some sort of victim, and that your naked classism and fear of other people not like you isn't the detestable thing it is.

Unless your school is100% poors, its not as poor as it can be. Understand?? The SB now tells you it plans to send even more poors to your school. And you would be unhappy about that, right?

Go away troll.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:


I want a mix at my kids’ schools too. And I want walkable/short bus. They are NOT mutually exclusive. We are fortunate to have both.

Most parents prioritized proximity.

I'm curious which elementary you think is well integrated.

Long Branch.

FARM % is approx same as county-wide FARM %

I'm happy for you, but you're the exception. Except for the fortunate few, it's very hard to get access to a school with a student body that resembles the county at large, and isn't dominated either by wealth or poverty. You either must be able to afford a million dollar fixer upper in Lyon Village or win the AH lottery and get placed in a luxury high rise.

It's also pure luck that the handful of neighborhood schools like Long Branch (Oakridge and Henry, Ashlawn) are as integrated as they are. It takes commitment to keep a school integrated and I see no evidence of that from the SB or CB.

Not much of an exception. Most parents we know here as well as Key and ASFS all value diversity and walkability. They aren’t mutually exclusive preferences.

Actually they are mutually exclusive when you have a county that is so economically stratified.

Take Jamestown or Taylor or Nottingham on one end of the spectrum and Carlin Springs or Randolph or Barcroft on the other end.

Walkability will not result in diversity when things are so out of balance. If we really value diversity, we can't just all walk to the closest school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why would the Hispanics in South Arlington support BLM? You Ds are so fricking confusing.

Few in south Arlington care much about this. It’s a Distraction.

It *is* no big deal. Except to the white supremacists. And SA whiners.

It’s costing a lot of money, and the county is strapped. Find a cheaper way to virtue signal.

Arlington is too cash-strapped to get rid of a Confederate name? Really?

Nope. It’s not. Plus, getting rid of a bunch of bus routes should cover it.

Exactly. Keep those schools walkable and segregated. Good stuff.

Huh, TIL having schools be walkable is segregation with whiffs of white supremacy. Fascinating!

Not only that, did you know that most North Arlington neighborhoods had racial covenants (until they were outlawed) that ensured local neighborhoods and schools would remain segregated? Or did you think it was just a coincidence that NA looks like it does? Yes, walkable schools are appealing to everyone but there's no denying that in Arlington County that demand also leverages a history of racist exclusion in North Arlington and one of concentrated poverty in South Arlington.

Cool. Do you want poors with low test scores in your kid’s school? Didnt think so.

Yes, I do. And because I believe in integration, that means not only do I want a mix of kids them in my south Arlington elementary, I also want a mix in your north Arlington elementary.

Your school is already filled to the brim with poors and low test scores. You want lots of white, non-farms, high scores kids to dilute the poors/low test scores. The only way you can get what you want is by forcing your kid into the NA elementary or by trading lots of your school’s poors/low test scores for whites, non-farm/ high test scores. However, as your school is constitited right now, if someone told you, we are going to bus poors/low test score kids into your kids’s school and we arent offsetting them by adding whites/high test acores, you would say, the hell you are!! That’s my point- no one is in favor of dumbing down the student body, no matter how dumb it may or may not already be.

Dumbing down, huh? Maybe the time at home is the bigger risk to your kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why would the Hispanics in South Arlington support BLM? You Ds are so fricking confusing.

Few in south Arlington care much about this. It’s a Distraction.

It *is* no big deal. Except to the white supremacists. And SA whiners.

It’s costing a lot of money, and the county is strapped. Find a cheaper way to virtue signal.

Arlington is too cash-strapped to get rid of a Confederate name? Really?

Nope. It’s not. Plus, getting rid of a bunch of bus routes should cover it.

Exactly. Keep those schools walkable and segregated. Good stuff.

Huh, TIL having schools be walkable is segregation with whiffs of white supremacy. Fascinating!

Not only that, did you know that most North Arlington neighborhoods had racial covenants (until they were outlawed) that ensured local neighborhoods and schools would remain segregated? Or did you think it was just a coincidence that NA looks like it does? Yes, walkable schools are appealing to everyone but there's no denying that in Arlington County that demand also leverages a history of racist exclusion in North Arlington and one of concentrated poverty in South Arlington.

Cool. Do you want poors with low test scores in your kid’s school? Didnt think so.

Yes, I do. And because I believe in integration, that means not only do I want a mix of kids them in my south Arlington elementary, I also want a mix in your north Arlington elementary.

Your school is already filled to the brim with poors and low test scores. You want lots of white, non-farms, high scores kids to dilute the poors/low test scores. The only way you can get what you want is by forcing your kid into the NA elementary or by trading lots of your school’s poors/low test scores for whites, non-farm/ high test scores. However, as your school is constitited right now, if someone told you, we are going to bus poors/low test score kids into your kids’s school and we arent offsetting them by adding whites/high test acores, you would say, the hell you are!! That’s my point- no one is in favor of dumbing down the student body, no matter how dumb it may or may not already be.

Sorry angry dude, you're describing yourself, not me. I think there's value in going to an integrated school. You're terrified of poor people and I don't know why, but it's your hang up and apparently it's easy to freak you out by advocating that NA schools integrate.

Im not angry or freaked out. Im pointing out that you do not favor lowering the academic quality of the student body in your kids’ school by busing poors/low test scores into your kid’s school.

Well, I live in south Arlington so it's not even an option to "lower the academic quality of the student body" but it's also a meaningless concept. I favor integration and if I had $1m to live in a house zoned to Long Branch I'd still favor having a diverse student body. I'm not the hypocrite you think I am.

If the SB told you they were bussing in poors/low test scores to your kid’s current school, you would be apoplectic. But you criticize the parents of kids in Taylor, etc, bc they have a negative reaction when the SB tells them that it may bus in poors/low test scores into their kid’s school. Every parent in SA or NA with a kid in a school will react negatively if the sb tells them we are bussing poors/low test scores to their kid’s school. Poors/low test scores have a propensity to damage the learning environment. And at a certain percentage, the school is academically destroyed.

Dude, what part of "I'm from SA" don't you get? My school is among the poorest. It couldn't even be made poorer than it is now. You're imagining yourself as some sort of victim, and that your naked classism and fear of other people not like you isn't the detestable thing it is.

Unless your school is100% poors, its not as poor as it can be. Understand?? The SB now tells you it plans to send even more poors to your school. And you would be unhappy about that, right?

Sure, but I'd be unhappy because it would be to the detriment of the disadvantaged children. It wouldnt have much impact on my kid. Whereas your unhappiness would be founded on your obvious racism, classism, and property value maintenance concerns. You and me, were different in kind, not degree.

[Anonymous]

NP here. I want my kids to be surrounded by the smartest kids possible. If test scores and other performance indicia. If test scores, etc. are correlated with race and income, simple logic suggests that my motivation is neither racism nor classism. As for property value considerations, what's wrong with that? Don't you value your property? If you are not a hypocrite, tell where you live and leave all your shit on the lawn so we can steal it you commie bastard.

As far as you want to bus high-performing NA kids south to help diversify your kids' school, this merely makes you a little fascist helping yourself at the expense of others through government coercion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NP here. I want my kids to be surrounded by the smartest kids possible. If test scores and other performance indicia. If test scores, etc. are correlated with race and income, simple logic suggests that my motivation is neither racism nor classism. As for property value considerations, what's wrong with that? Don't you value your property? If you are not a hypocrite, tell where you live and leave all your shit on the lawn so we can steal it you commie bastard.

As far as you want to bus high-performing NA kids south to help diversify your kids' school, this merely makes you a little fascist helping yourself at the expense of others through government coercion.

LOL, you're not a new poster. You're the same troll.

[Anonymous]

Whatever, dipshit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP here. I want my kids to be surrounded by the smartest kids possible. If test scores and other performance indicia. If test scores, etc. are correlated with race and income, simple logic suggests that my motivation is neither racism nor classism. As for property value considerations, what's wrong with that? Don't you value your property? If you are not a hypocrite, tell where you live and leave all your shit on the lawn so we can steal it you commie bastard.

As far as you want to bus high-performing NA kids south to help diversify your kids' school, this merely makes you a little fascist helping yourself at the expense of others through government coercion.

LOL, you're not a new poster. You're the same troll.

Yes he is a new poster and Im the pp and not a troll, you dimwitted South Arlingtonian.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why would the Hispanics in South Arlington support BLM? You Ds are so fricking confusing.

Few in south Arlington care much about this. It’s a Distraction.

It *is* no big deal. Except to the white supremacists. And SA whiners.

It’s costing a lot of money, and the county is strapped. Find a cheaper way to virtue signal.

Arlington is too cash-strapped to get rid of a Confederate name? Really?

Nope. It’s not. Plus, getting rid of a bunch of bus routes should cover it.

Exactly. Keep those schools walkable and segregated. Good stuff.

Huh, TIL having schools be walkable is segregation with whiffs of white supremacy. Fascinating!

Not only that, did you know that most North Arlington neighborhoods had racial covenants (until they were outlawed) that ensured local neighborhoods and schools would remain segregated? Or did you think it was just a coincidence that NA looks like it does? Yes, walkable schools are appealing to everyone but there's no denying that in Arlington County that demand also leverages a history of racist exclusion in North Arlington and one of concentrated poverty in South Arlington.

Cool. Do you want poors with low test scores in your kid’s school? Didnt think so.

Yes, I do. And because I believe in integration, that means not only do I want a mix of kids them in my south Arlington elementary, I also want a mix in your north Arlington elementary.

Your school is already filled to the brim with poors and low test scores. You want lots of white, non-farms, high scores kids to dilute the poors/low test scores. The only way you can get what you want is by forcing your kid into the NA elementary or by trading lots of your school’s poors/low test scores for whites, non-farm/ high test scores. However, as your school is constitited right now, if someone told you, we are going to bus poors/low test score kids into your kids’s school and we arent offsetting them by adding whites/high test acores, you would say, the hell you are!! That’s my point- no one is in favor of dumbing down the student body, no matter how dumb it may or may not already be.

Sorry angry dude, you're describing yourself, not me. I think there's value in going to an integrated school. You're terrified of poor people and I don't know why, but it's your hang up and apparently it's easy to freak you out by advocating that NA schools integrate.

Im not angry or freaked out. Im pointing out that you do not favor lowering the academic quality of the student body in your kids’ school by busing poors/low test scores into your kid’s school.

Well, I live in south Arlington so it's not even an option to "lower the academic quality of the student body" but it's also a meaningless concept. I favor integration and if I had $1m to live in a house zoned to Long Branch I'd still favor having a diverse student body. I'm not the hypocrite you think I am.

If the SB told you they were bussing in poors/low test scores to your kid’s current school, you would be apoplectic. But you criticize the parents of kids in Taylor, etc, bc they have a negative reaction when the SB tells them that it may bus in poors/low test scores into their kid’s school. Every parent in SA or NA with a kid in a school will react negatively if the sb tells them we are bussing poors/low test scores to their kid’s school. Poors/low test scores have a propensity to damage the learning environment. And at a certain percentage, the school is academically destroyed.

Dude, what part of "I'm from SA" don't you get? My school is among the poorest. It couldn't even be made poorer than it is now. You're imagining yourself as some sort of victim, and that your naked classism and fear of other people not like you isn't the detestable thing it is.

Unless your school is100% poors, its not as poor as it can be. Understand?? The SB now tells you it plans to send even more poors to your school. And you would be unhappy about that, right?

Sure, but I'd be unhappy because it would be to the detriment of the disadvantaged children. It wouldnt have much impact on my kid. Whereas your unhappiness would be founded on your obvious racism, classism, and property value maintenance concerns. You and me, were different in kind, not degree.

No, you are a hypocrite. You think I should blindly accept something that you yourself would be unhappy about.

[Anonymous]

I for one cannot wait until the rename every single school associated with the failure of the Confederacy. Who wants their kids to go to a school named after a loser? Not I.

[Anonymous]

Yes, it's about time they removed the names of those responsible for the failure of the Confederacy. The Confederacy should have succeeded.

Oh, that's not what you meant? Perhaps you should learn how to write.

[Anonymous]

I just turned onto Lee Jackson Highway. OMG we have to erase all of it. There was never a civil war.