Travel Soccer teams around NOVA let's discuss Part II

Anonymous
^^ forget the girls soccer thread. Just make it an FCV vs Spirit thread.

Who are the fricking obsessive compulsives that never stop talking about this shit??

They are girls. What is your end gane? Shittier benefits and less than a Starbucks barista playing for Washington Spirit?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:^^ forget the girls soccer thread. Just make it an FCV vs Spirit thread.

Who are the fricking obsessive compulsives that never stop talking about this shit??

They are girls. What is your end gane? Shittier benefits and less than a Starbucks barista playing for Washington Spirit?


+100 they are worse than the VYS parent threas
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:^^ forget the girls soccer thread. Just make it an FCV vs Spirit thread.

Who are the fricking obsessive compulsives that never stop talking about this shit??

They are girls. What is your end gane? Shittier benefits and less than a Starbucks barista playing for Washington Spirit?


Please use this liberally and get over yourself.

http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/jforum.page?module=posts&action=insert&forum_id=55
Anonymous
You wanna talk bout u9 boys playing CCL? In the US, socer is a girls sport. Sorry. That's why we suck on a world stage. Use that liberally
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:You wanna talk bout u9 boys playing CCL? In the US, socer is a girls sport. Sorry. That's why we suck on a world stage. Use that liberally


Newsflash: our girls are seriously slipping. And now our best leave for European leagues over Pro league here.

We have only been better because girls starting playing soccer here 20-30 years before women everywhere else in the World. Those obsessed soccer countries didn't let women play. They are now applying their training methodologies that worked with the men to their women. US Physical style will also be outplayed---like at the last Olympics when uS women were disgraced.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:

I think the point regarding "As far as development..Spirit greater then FCV" simply implies regarding to how DPs are being developed at Spirit vs FCV. How regularly are FCV DPs even practicing with the DA team?


Its an apples to oranges comparison to compare Spirit to FCV DP training plans. FCV DP's play in NPL generally, so they practice with those teams more than they practice with the DA. Spirit has no 'B' team, so I assume DP's are at every practice.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

I think the point regarding "As far as development..Spirit greater then FCV" simply implies regarding to how DPs are being developed at Spirit vs FCV. How regularly are FCV DPs even practicing with the DA team?


Its an apples to oranges comparison to compare Spirit to FCV DP training plans. FCV DP's play in NPL generally, so they practice with those teams more than they practice with the DA. Spirit has no 'B' team, so I assume DP's are at every practice.


So where would a DP player improve more, by training exclusively with a NPL team or exclusively with a DA team?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

I think the point regarding "As far as development..Spirit greater then FCV" simply implies regarding to how DPs are being developed at Spirit vs FCV. How regularly are FCV DPs even practicing with the DA team?


Its an apples to oranges comparison to compare Spirit to FCV DP training plans. FCV DP's play in NPL generally, so they practice with those teams more than they practice with the DA. Spirit has no 'B' team, so I assume DP's are at every practice.


So where would a DP player improve more, by training exclusively with a NPL team or exclusively with a DA team?


IMO, a player needs to play in games and have good training and coaching for development. Training with no competition gets old quick. I would trade a greater quantity of da training for the more balanced npl environment as long as the player is being challenged.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

I think the point regarding "As far as development..Spirit greater then FCV" simply implies regarding to how DPs are being developed at Spirit vs FCV. How regularly are FCV DPs even practicing with the DA team?


Its an apples to oranges comparison to compare Spirit to FCV DP training plans. FCV DP's play in NPL generally, so they practice with those teams more than they practice with the DA. Spirit has no 'B' team, so I assume DP's are at every practice.


So where would a DP player improve more, by training exclusively with a NPL team or exclusively with a DA team?


You people are killing me.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:^^ forget the girls soccer thread. Just make it an FCV vs Spirit thread.

Who are the fricking obsessive compulsives that never stop talking about this shit??

They are girls. What is your end gane? Shittier benefits and less than a Starbucks barista playing for Washington Spirit?


Please use this liberally and get over yourself.

http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/jforum.page?module=posts&action=insert&forum_id=55


Done ... http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/0/669316.page#11557459

And no, my issue isn't with "girls" soccer. NWSL players are awesome.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You wanna talk bout u9 boys playing CCL? In the US, socer is a girls sport. Sorry. That's why we suck on a world stage. Use that liberally


Newsflash: our girls are seriously slipping. And now our best leave for European leagues over Pro league here.


Yeah, like Crystal Dunn and ........

..... um .......

(Not Alex Morgan, who isn't returning to France.)
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Just wondering people's thoughts on blowouts in travel soccer. Is it appropriate for the other team to run up the score.

In Rec, the coaches get a lot of grief from the league for blowouts where the score is more than 6 goals apart. But in travel, since it is travel (and top teams) do different rules apply?


They shouldn't, but we have seen many, many complete blowouts in regular season play with not too much attempt to damper them.

When my husband coached, he would have the kids complete a long set of passes before anyone was allowed to shoot---or only use non-dominant foot. Kids were played out of position---goalie at striker, etc.

I've seen it backfire and become more humiliating---like when every kid on the winning side is saying really loudly 'guys we can't score, etc'. OR--kids going right up to opposing goal and then turning around and dribbling back.

At the littlest ages---there should be some type of mercy rule.

IN TOURNAMENT PLAY---completely different standard since goal differential is important. But---tournaments are, for the most part, better matched up teams.


A few things to do:

1. Quit pressing on goal kicks. At U9 and U10, you can't do this any more, anyway, which is good. I saw games get completely out of hand because one team simply didn't have a goalkeeper or defender who could get the ball past the other team's attackers. In my travel soccer experience, the parents understood this problem -- the COACHES did not.

2. Put players in different positions. No need for your star striker to be playing striker when it's 9-1 and he already has his hat trick.

But the PP is right -- don't make it painfully obvious. I once coached a rec game against a coach who was yelling constantly at his team to use their left feet and pass several times. And it wasn't even a blowout. It wa

It is just 1-2 goals. Chill, dude.


That might have been my husband because he was adamant kids would be ambidextrous by 8/9 with their feet. When you can only play with one foot when you are older, you are handicapped. Older kids have to wait and get the ball on their good foot and lose the shot. These aren't games in Kindergarten/first grade Rec they are for learning.

Flash forward to U11/12 and all of his former players can pass and shoot and receive equally as well with their weaker foot. If you miss the window on this and don't START trying that until 12--you'll never have it. He also made sure they were equally using each foot when juggling. With my U14 kid it is now painfully obvious which kids never developed their weaker foot or first touch.

These are not things most travel coaches bother with.



It wasn't your husband. They were specifically doing it to keep from running up the score, and they made sure we knew.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:^^ forget the girls soccer thread. Just make it an FCV vs Spirit thread.

Who are the fricking obsessive compulsives that never stop talking about this shit??

They are girls. What is your end gane? Shittier benefits and less than a Starbucks barista playing for Washington Spirit?


Please use this liberally and get over yourself.

http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/jforum.page?module=posts&action=insert&forum_id=55


Done ... http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/0/669316.page#11557459

And no, my issue isn't with "girls" soccer. NWSL players are awesome.


Thanks! FCV WS posters start using that thread. You are monopolizing the board.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

I think the point regarding "As far as development..Spirit greater then FCV" simply implies regarding to how DPs are being developed at Spirit vs FCV. How regularly are FCV DPs even practicing with the DA team?


Its an apples to oranges comparison to compare Spirit to FCV DP training plans. FCV DP's play in NPL generally, so they practice with those teams more than they practice with the DA. Spirit has no 'B' team, so I assume DP's are at every practice.


So where would a DP player improve more, by training exclusively with a NPL team or exclusively with a DA team?


You people are killing me.


So you obviously have nothing to offer regarding any topic at all. In time, I'm pretty sure the conversation will shift back to something that interests you in the meantime there is no need to be upset that the conversation is not about where your kid is playing.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:So here's a question, what good does it do a player to be in the DA or ECNL, if she doesn't even get to play?

For example, on the Wash Spirit VA U14 team, they have 24 players listed as FT academy players on their official roster (ussoccerda website), but only 18 of them can be on the roster for each game. That means 6 players stay home every weekend.

The BRYC U14 ECNL team has 21 on the roster, but only brought 18 to their game against McLean this weekend, so 3 stayed home. No idea how many of the 18 actually got meaningful minutes (the DA site lists things like that, so you can see that everyone who made the Spirit game day roster got at least 25 minutes).

FCV is only slightly better, only leaving 2 players off the roster every week.

Does that seem crazy to anyone else, or am I just being "soft"? I mean, I get the idea that players that age shouldn't be coddled, need to learn to compete for starting spots, earn their minutes, and all that. But not playing at all? At 13 years old? What's the point?

I wonder if these clubs were open and honest about the way things would be before accepting player commitments for the season. Did the parents know what they were getting into when they dropped those $5000 checks in the mail?

VDA and MCLN both have about 17 total on their roster. 6 subs is still a lot (especially in the DA, where there's no re-entry), but that seems a lot more reasonable.



BRYC was open (when asked) on the high team roster vs 18 game roster. to those who went there they believed the training was a fit for the tradeoff of not suiting up once in a while. what i think may have been less clear was the method of how to determine who was going to suit up. random equal selection or by weekly showing at training.
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