NOVA Stats for spring '17 UVA, W & M & Tech acceptances (or not)

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Anonymous wrote:Robinson had 700+ seniors this year. 156 IB Diploma candidates. @45 UVA acceptances and @35 are going.

Totally reasonable

says you. based on what?

Anyone who gets an IB diploma has done some serious work. I would expect to see higher than 30% accepted from that group. But, I guess we don't know from what was posted how many actually applied.

IB full diploma is very impressive. But, Two things. Not every IB diploma candidate makes it through. And (even more shocking), not every kid wants to attend UVA. In fact, I would think WM would appeal more to many of these kids. You need the applied vs accepted numbers for kids who ultimately get the full diploma to make sense of the data.

There is nothing special about IB diploma students. Many have average SAT/ACT scores and are lucky to get into JMU/GMU/VCU.

Well, that's a bit snarky.

Actually, this years class was exceptional. I think at graduation they said with 156 Diploma candidates, it was the largest and most successful IB program in the country. This class sent at least one student to each Ivy, a few to Stanford, Duke, Vandy, NYU, Berkley, Michigan, MIT, Chicago, Rice, NW, the military academies and a variety of International universities in Europe. As for stats, I can only speak for my DC, who had over 1500 on the SAT and an UW 4.0, W 4.7 gpa, over 300 hours of community service, multiple varsity sports, leadership positions and a part time job.

It was an awful grind to complete all the requirements for the full diploma. Kudos to any of the kids who make the effort.

[Anonymous]

BTW, IB scores and diploma results come out tomorrow. Should have a better idea of the success rate then.

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Anonymous wrote:Robinson had 700+ seniors this year. 156 IB Diploma candidates. @45 UVA acceptances and @35 are going.

Totally reasonable

says you. based on what?

Anyone who gets an IB diploma has done some serious work. I would expect to see higher than 30% accepted from that group. But, I guess we don't know from what was posted how many actually applied.

IB full diploma is very impressive. But, Two things. Not every IB diploma candidate makes it through. And (even more shocking), not every kid wants to attend UVA. In fact, I would think WM would appeal more to many of these kids. You need the applied vs accepted numbers for kids who ultimately get the full diploma to make sense of the data.

There is nothing special about IB diploma students. Many have average SAT/ACT scores and are lucky to get into JMU/GMU/VCU.

Well, that's a bit snarky.

Actually, this years class was exceptional. I think at graduation they said with 156 Diploma candidates, it was the largest and most successful IB program in the country. This class sent at least one student to each Ivy, a few to Stanford, Duke, Vandy, NYU, Berkley, Michigan, MIT, Chicago, Rice, NW, the military academies and a variety of International universities in Europe. As for stats, I can only speak for my DC, who had over 1500 on the SAT and an UW 4.0, W 4.7 gpa, over 300 hours of community service, multiple varsity sports, leadership positions and a part time job.

It was an awful grind to complete all the requirements for the full diploma. Kudos to any of the kids who make the effort.

They can make the effort, but the majority are still not UVA-quality students.

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Anonymous wrote:I thought Virginia Tech was a welding school?

I'd be disgusted if my kid had to go there.

Really-- it's engineering school is ranked 16th, and it is a top 10 school in civil, industrial, biological and environmental engineering. Definately a contender for my TJ kid who is applying to environmental engineering programs (where VT ranks 6th). Can't beat the price for kid who will probably also have to think about grad school costs. And in several areas, can't beat the educational quality. Certainly beats UVA in engineering. So, you do you. The state welders school is my kid's safety though. (And my kid has no intention of applying to UVA. Too big. Too weak in engineering. Hates the rich frat boy vibe).

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Anonymous wrote:I thought Virginia Tech was a welding school?

I'd be disgusted if my kid had to go there.

Really-- it's engineering school is ranked 16th, and it is a top 10 school in civil, industrial, biological and environmental engineering. Definately a contender for my TJ kid who is applying to environmental engineering programs (where VT ranks 6th). Can't beat the price for kid who will probably also have to think about grad school costs. And in several areas, can't beat the educational quality. Certainly beats UVA in engineering. So, you do you. The state welders school is my kid's safety though. (And my kid has no intention of applying to UVA. Too big. Too weak in engineering. Hates the rich frat boy vibe).

UVA too big? VA Tech enrolls over 30K, UVA around 20K.

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Anonymous wrote:I thought Virginia Tech was a welding school?

I'd be disgusted if my kid had to go there.

OK
Be disgusted.

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Anonymous wrote:BTW, IB scores and diploma results come out tomorrow. Should have a better idea of the success rate then.

How are they notified?

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kids were mailed login and code info to access their results on the IBO website beginning tomorrow

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Anonymous wrote:I thought Virginia Tech was a welding school?

I'd be disgusted if my kid had to go there.

OK
Be disgusted.

Really. Wonder what year PP got turned down. My DS wound up going to UVA and never applied to VT but came close. I loved the feel of the VT campus. We had a great tour. DS was very strong on the aerospace engineering program. We attended VT engineering day and learned you need a 4.0 if you want a reasonable shot of getting in. I would have been very happy if DS decided to go there. Peculiarly, it was then VT's ED program (I read somewhere that has been discarded but I have no affiliation with the university so don't know). DS wanted to apply SCEA to an Ivy so could not apply to VT ED. He got into all of his EA options so he was done before VT's RD cycle came around. But for engineering, I think it is a terrific school and statistically very difficult to get into. It's architecture and vet schools are also first-rate.

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Anonymous wrote:Bottom line: UVA and W&M affirmatively do not want NOVA applicants or students. They want NOVA tax revenue, but those of us that live here are poison and are to be avoided. A GPA barely above a B+ from a school in seven central Virginia counties, together with standardized test scores in roughly the 75+ percentile, is enough for UVA, from that locality. The NOVA requirements are dramatically higher. UVA and W&M demand, receive, hold, and expend public funds. But they do NOT equally accommodate VA resident applicants by any measure.

Completely and verifiably UNTRUE. UVA's class of 2020 has 1130 students from Northern Virginia out of a class of 3720 (source: http://admission.virginia.edu/uva-admission-quotas-northern-virginia). UVA accepted 224 kids from my D's Northern VA HS last year (TJ).

Read this blog from UVA admissions for more info on how UVA selects its student body: http://uvaapplication.blogspot.com/

Uh, please. Even if true, it is TJ STUDENTS! They were self-selected into four years ago! You CANNOT compare TJ results to any other public school in NOVA, even FCPS! Langley and McLean send only a dozen or so out of classes of 500! This is what NOVA parents are upset about (if you at a TJ parent, then this is not your world). Only 663 students from Fairfax Country for class of 2020. Just in FCPS there are 33 high schools. And UVA has to also account for VA residents who are at private day schools in MD and D.C. as well as elite boarding schools. Sure, if you are at TJ you have a reasonable shot of getting in - put you've already won the sweepstakes four years ago. If my B+ student at McLean High School wants to apply, forget it. Not going to happen

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. Junior who is suddenly interested in VA schools. Anecdotal/ individual reports welcome.

I have a child in UVA. Happy to help. Can you provide any statistics. In-state? OOS? Region? Public? Private? GPA to date? Prelim test scores?

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Anonymous wrote:Bottom line: UVA and W&M affirmatively do not want NOVA applicants or students. They want NOVA tax revenue, but those of us that live here are poison and are to be avoided. A GPA barely above a B+ from a school in seven central Virginia counties, together with standardized test scores in roughly the 75+ percentile, is enough for UVA, from that locality. The NOVA requirements are dramatically higher. UVA and W&M demand, receive, hold, and expend public funds. But they do NOT equally accommodate VA resident applicants by any measure.

Completely and verifiably UNTRUE. UVA's class of 2020 has 1130 students from Northern Virginia out of a class of 3720 (source: http://admission.virginia.edu/uva-admission-quotas-northern-virginia). UVA accepted 224 kids from my D's Northern VA HS last year (TJ).

Read this blog from UVA admissions for more info on how UVA selects its student body: http://uvaapplication.blogspot.com/

Uh, please. Even if true, it is TJ STUDENTS! They were self-selected into four years ago! You CANNOT compare TJ results to any other public school in NOVA, even FCPS! Langley and McLean send only a dozen or so out of classes of 500! This is what NOVA parents are upset about (if you at a TJ parent, then this is not your world). Only 663 students from Fairfax Country for class of 2020. Just in FCPS there are 33 high schools. And UVA has to also account for VA residents who are at private day schools in MD and D.C. as well as elite boarding schools. Sure, if you are at TJ you have a reasonable shot of getting in - put you've already won the sweepstakes four years ago. If my B+ student at McLean High School wants to apply, forget it. Not going to happen

Your B+ student has no business going to UVA. Flagships are not for B+ students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I thought Virginia Tech was a welding school?

I'd be disgusted if my kid had to go there.

Really-- it's engineering school is ranked 16th, and it is a top 10 school in civil, industrial, biological and environmental engineering. Definately a contender for my TJ kid who is applying to environmental engineering programs (where VT ranks 6th). Can't beat the price for kid who will probably also have to think about grad school costs. And in several areas, can't beat the educational quality. Certainly beats UVA in engineering. So, you do you. The state welders school is my kid's safety though. (And my kid has no intention of applying to UVA. Too big. Too weak in engineering. Hates the rich frat boy vibe).

UVA too big? VA Tech enrolls over 30K, UVA around 20K.

It is big. And that's a concern. And also why it would be a backup plan for my kid, who is looking at a 3/2 engineering program, SLAC to Columbia or Cal Tech. But the hope is that the engineering school has a smaller feel than the general college. Really with engineering, you are looking at a lot of big state schools being at the top-- GA tech, Illinois, Cal Tech , etc. You either need to do a 3/2, go to a Harvey Mudd type school, or go to one of the handful of schools with grad programs that are smaller (but still large)-- like Cornell, MIT and CMU-- if your kid can get in. Very big If.

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Slightly offtopic but whats with the obsession with engineering

Salaries top out very quickly shouldn't you be shooting higher for your offspring

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Robinson had 700+ seniors this year. 156 IB Diploma candidates. @45 UVA acceptances and @35 are going.

Totally reasonable

says you. based on what?

Anyone who gets an IB diploma has done some serious work. I would expect to see higher than 30% accepted from that group. But, I guess we don't know from what was posted how many actually applied.

IB full diploma is very impressive. But, Two things. Not every IB diploma candidate makes it through. And (even more shocking), not every kid wants to attend UVA. In fact, I would think WM would appeal more to many of these kids. You need the applied vs accepted numbers for kids who ultimately get the full diploma to make sense of the data.

There is nothing special about IB diploma students. Many have average SAT/ACT scores and are lucky to get into JMU/GMU/VCU.

Well, that's a bit snarky.

Actually, this years class was exceptional. I think at graduation they said with 156 Diploma candidates, it was the largest and most successful IB program in the country. This class sent at least one student to each Ivy, a few to Stanford, Duke, Vandy, NYU, Berkley, Michigan, MIT, Chicago, Rice, NW, the military academies and a variety of International universities in Europe. As for stats, I can only speak for my DC, who had over 1500 on the SAT and an UW 4.0, W 4.7 gpa, over 300 hours of community service, multiple varsity sports, leadership positions and a part time job.

It was an awful grind to complete all the requirements for the full diploma. Kudos to any of the kids who make the effort.

How did your DC get 4.7 weighted GPA if your DC is in FCPS (or NOVA)? 4.7 would be possible in Montgomery County but almost impossible in FCPS/NOVA even with 4.0 unweighted GPA and taking maximum possible APs (20+).