Assault outside Wilson

[Anonymous]

If it is proven that the adult struck the child first...then with every action there's a reaction. Sometime smart-mouth adults becomes confrontational with these students and the results are not favorable. Of it is stated that your DC ONE card privileges can be suspended due to such actions...you just can't take it. They are innocent until proven guilty...an arrest is not guilt?

[Anonymous]

And people have said the local police were told they had to take it easy. Is this true? Asked by the school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:Did anyone hear anything about a large snowball fight at Wilson this afternoon? From what I understand, snowballs were being thrown at cars and even the police.

There was a fire alarm with immediate dismissal at 3pm. Students who got out of the building first started pegging people with snowballs on their way out of the building. This carried to the metro station and beyond.

My understanding is because of snow all the kids had to exit through the front of the school and it was totally chaotic. Usually for fire drills many students go out on the field but it was covered in snow. It just doesn't sound like it was well thought out to plan a fire drill yesterday.

I don't know if all these incidents are related to Wilson's budget cuts and fewer personnel, but they are very disturbing, even if they take place off campus. This is not our first year there. I don't have an answer but these incidents are becoming too frequent for comfort.

Not sure for DC, but MD requires one fire drill each month. It's the last week of the month and if they didn't have one earlier this month they had to do it regardless of the snow.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Has Principal reviewed the records of OOB kids and sent back to home school those that don't meet the required attendance and gpa? I think this is at discretion of the Principal.

I doubt that the principal will. The mayor doesn't even want to enforce tickets for parking on snow emergency routes. Do you think that there's the political will to follow through and start kicking OOB kids out of Wilson who fall below standard? The mayor's "base" wouldn't like that at all, and DCPS (which reports to the mayor) knows that.

It took me some digging to find this, but if you look at the first post on this page:

http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/30/465166.page

It contains a letter from Christopher Rinkus at DCPS. He says this:

Second, there are currently over one hundred out-of-boundary students attending Wilson who are noncompliant with the DCPS out-of-boundary attendance policy. The policy mandates that an out-of-boundary student cannot have more than ten unexcused absences. Wilson has mailed out notification that out-of-boundary students may be excluded from enrolling at Wilson next year if they fail to maintain good attendance this year. In years past, these notifications have been sent, but not enforced. This year, the policy will be enforced.

So, they had an announced policy to do this, at least.

Moreover, just to remind everyone that Wilson had its budget cut while enrollment increased. I don't know if there is a relationship between that and the increase in violent incidents, but it would make sense that attempting to manage more students with fewer resources would result in additional problems.

also, the most recent events took place outside of the school, where students are not being supervised by school personnel and are not their responsibility

Not so. The schools pay for their ride, and in any event have responsibility for students on their way to and from school. Too often, Wilson's view is that their role stops at the school house door. That's why we've had periodic mayhem in and around the Tenley Metro station for years. More recently, the problematic conduct has taken a more violent and disturbing turn.

Pretty sure this is not correct information.

[Anonymous]

common sense please -- school admin can't control kids on their way home from school. They can't see them and don't know where they are or what's going on once the kids scatter out of the building.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If it is proven that the adult struck the child first...then with every action there's a reaction. Sometime smart-mouth adults becomes confrontational with these students and the results are not favorable. Of it is stated that your DC ONE card privileges can be suspended due to such actions...you just can't take it. They are innocent until proven guilty...an arrest is not guilt?

Suspending DC ONE privileges (and particularly suspending arrested kids from Wilson) based on the arrest would be perfectly legal and appropriate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If it is proven that the adult struck the child first...then with every action there's a reaction. Sometime smart-mouth adults becomes confrontational with these students and the results are not favorable. Of it is stated that your DC ONE card privileges can be suspended due to such actions...you just can't take it. They are innocent until proven guilty...an arrest is not guilt?

Suspending DC ONE privileges (and particularly suspending arrested kids from Wilson) based on the arrest would be perfectly legal and appropriate.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Has Principal reviewed the records of OOB kids and sent back to home school those that don't meet the required attendance and gpa? I think this is at discretion of the Principal.

This! This is what kills me because I believe that Wilson really should be open to all underprivileged minority kids who are willing to commute there on time and put in the work. I don't think OOB at high school should be a lottery. If there is one child in DC that can't get in, but could thrive there, they should have the spot. The kids on the metro who assaulted the man couldn't have gotten to school on time. Thirty kids traveling together late? That shows me they care little about their Wilson eduction, so why are they taking a spot from another minority student at an overcrowded school?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Has Principal reviewed the records of OOB kids and sent back to home school those that don't meet the required attendance and gpa? I think this is at discretion of the Principal.

This! This is what kills me because I believe that Wilson really should be open to all underprivileged minority kids who are willing to commute there on time and put in the work. I don't think OOB at high school should be a lottery. If there is one child in DC that can't get in, but could thrive there, they should have the spot. The kids on the metro who assaulted the man couldn't have gotten to school on time. Thirty kids traveling together late? That shows me they care little about their Wilson eduction, so why are they taking a spot from another minority student at an overcrowded school?

There isn't room at Wilson for every child who meets that description. And why on earth should 'underprivileged minority kids who are willing to commute on time and put in the work' be the only OOB kids to get access to Wilson? I'd love to send my white 9th grader who is a strong student and quiet kid, but we live IB for Coolidge HS and had to find an alternative.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Has Principal reviewed the records of OOB kids and sent back to home school those that don't meet the required attendance and gpa? I think this is at discretion of the Principal.

This! This is what kills me because I believe that Wilson really should be open to all underprivileged minority kids who are willing to commute there on time and put in the work. I don't think OOB at high school should be a lottery. If there is one child in DC that can't get in, but could thrive there, they should have the spot. The kids on the metro who assaulted the man couldn't have gotten to school on time. Thirty kids traveling together late? That shows me they care little about their Wilson eduction, so why are they taking a spot from another minority student at an overcrowded school?

At risk of being accused of all sorts of atrocities, isn't it possible that these kids were delayed on the Metro that day just like so many other passengers? Moreover, couldn't the shoving to get to the train be consistent with a desire to not fall further behind schedule? If they were boarding a train at Gallery Place at 8:30, they could have been at the school by 8:50 and have only been 5 minutes late. It is likely they were not boarding earlier because of delays getting to that point. I am not sure this is actually evidence that they don't value their Wilson education and, in fact, may be evidence that they do. Of course, avoiding a fight would have been even better evidence.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Has Principal reviewed the records of OOB kids and sent back to home school those that don't meet the required attendance and gpa? I think this is at discretion of the Principal.

This! This is what kills me because I believe that Wilson really should be open to all underprivileged minority kids who are willing to commute there on time and put in the work. I don't think OOB at high school should be a lottery. If there is one child in DC that can't get in, but could thrive there, they should have the spot. The kids on the metro who assaulted the man couldn't have gotten to school on time. Thirty kids traveling together late? That shows me they care little about their Wilson eduction, so why are they taking a spot from another minority student at an overcrowded school?

At risk of being accused of all sorts of atrocities, isn't it possible that these kids were delayed on the Metro that day just like so many other passengers? Moreover, couldn't the shoving to get to the train be consistent with a desire to not fall further behind schedule? If they were boarding a train at Gallery Place at 8:30, they could have been at the school by 8:50 and have only been 5 minutes late. It is likely they were not boarding earlier because of delays getting to that point. I am not sure this is actually evidence that they don't value their Wilson education and, in fact, may be evidence that they do. Of course, avoiding a fight would have been even better evidence.

Of course it is possible.

It is also possible that you are Mother Theresa alive and transgendered.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Has Principal reviewed the records of OOB kids and sent back to home school those that don't meet the required attendance and gpa? I think this is at discretion of the Principal.

This! This is what kills me because I believe that Wilson really should be open to all underprivileged minority kids who are willing to commute there on time and put in the work. I don't think OOB at high school should be a lottery. If there is one child in DC that can't get in, but could thrive there, they should have the spot. The kids on the metro who assaulted the man couldn't have gotten to school on time. Thirty kids traveling together late? That shows me they care little about their Wilson eduction, so why are they taking a spot from another minority student at an overcrowded school?

At risk of being accused of all sorts of atrocities, isn't it possible that these kids were delayed on the Metro that day just like so many other passengers? Moreover, couldn't the shoving to get to the train be consistent with a desire to not fall further behind schedule? If they were boarding a train at Gallery Place at 8:30, they could have been at the school by 8:50 and have only been 5 minutes late. It is likely they were not boarding earlier because of delays getting to that point. I am not sure this is actually evidence that they don't value their Wilson education and, in fact, may be evidence that they do. Of course, avoiding a fight would have been even better evidence.

Of course it is possible.

It is also possible that you are Mother Theresa alive and transgendered.

Actually, that's not possible. But, your ability to focus like a laser on the important aspects of this discussion is impressive.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Has Principal reviewed the records of OOB kids and sent back to home school those that don't meet the required attendance and gpa? I think this is at discretion of the Principal.

This! This is what kills me because I believe that Wilson really should be open to all underprivileged minority kids who are willing to commute there on time and put in the work. I don't think OOB at high school should be a lottery. If there is one child in DC that can't get in, but could thrive there, they should have the spot. The kids on the metro who assaulted the man couldn't have gotten to school on time. Thirty kids traveling together late? That shows me they care little about their Wilson eduction, so why are they taking a spot from another minority student at an overcrowded school?

At risk of being accused of all sorts of atrocities, isn't it possible that these kids were delayed on the Metro that day just like so many other passengers? Moreover, couldn't the shoving to get to the train be consistent with a desire to not fall further behind schedule? If they were boarding a train at Gallery Place at 8:30, they could have been at the school by 8:50 and have only been 5 minutes late. It is likely they were not boarding earlier because of delays getting to that point. I am not sure this is actually evidence that they don't value their Wilson education and, in fact, may be evidence that they do. Of course, avoiding a fight would have been even better evidence.

Of course it is possible.

It is also possible that you are Mother Theresa alive and transgendered.

Actually, that's not possible. But, your ability to focus like a laser on the important aspects of this discussion is impressive.

Might it be possible that what you characterize as a "fight" was a group of teens attacking and punching an innocent commuter as a wolf pack, not a student group, would do?

Might it also be possible that your comments, first blaming the victim and now manipulating what actually happened, reveal some very strange opinions you have?

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Has Principal reviewed the records of OOB kids and sent back to home school those that don't meet the required attendance and gpa? I think this is at discretion of the Principal.

This! This is what kills me because I believe that Wilson really should be open to all underprivileged minority kids who are willing to commute there on time and put in the work. I don't think OOB at high school should be a lottery. If there is one child in DC that can't get in, but could thrive there, they should have the spot. The kids on the metro who assaulted the man couldn't have gotten to school on time. Thirty kids traveling together late? That shows me they care little about their Wilson eduction, so why are they taking a spot from another minority student at an overcrowded school?

At risk of being accused of all sorts of atrocities, isn't it possible that these kids were delayed on the Metro that day just like so many other passengers? Moreover, couldn't the shoving to get to the train be consistent with a desire to not fall further behind schedule? If they were boarding a train at Gallery Place at 8:30, they could have been at the school by 8:50 and have only been 5 minutes late. It is likely they were not boarding earlier because of delays getting to that point. I am not sure this is actually evidence that they don't value their Wilson education and, in fact, may be evidence that they do. Of course, avoiding a fight would have been even better evidence.

Of course it is possible.

It is also possible that you are Mother Theresa alive and transgendered.

Actually, that's not possible. But, your ability to focus like a laser on the important aspects of this discussion is impressive.

Might it be possible that what you characterize as a "fight" was a group of teens attacking and punching an innocent commuter as a wolf pack, not a student group, would do?

Might it also be possible that your comments, first blaming the victim and now manipulating what actually happened, reveal some very strange opinions you have?

Look, if you have a personal issue with me, start a thread in Website Feedback and we can fight with each other till the cows come home. But, please stop disrupting every thread with your nonsense.

You might also give some thought to your compulsion to refer to a certain demographic with animal metaphors -- or in this case, a simile. Regardless of what these kids have done, they are humans. They are not dogs, wolves, or any other species that comes to your mind.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Has Principal reviewed the records of OOB kids and sent back to home school those that don't meet the required attendance and gpa? I think this is at discretion of the Principal.

This! This is what kills me because I believe that Wilson really should be open to all underprivileged minority kids who are willing to commute there on time and put in the work. I don't think OOB at high school should be a lottery. If there is one child in DC that can't get in, but could thrive there, they should have the spot. The kids on the metro who assaulted the man couldn't have gotten to school on time. Thirty kids traveling together late? That shows me they care little about their Wilson eduction, so why are they taking a spot from another minority student at an overcrowded school?

Why Wilson? What do you think makes Wilson good? It's location? well, if most kids no longer come from the neighborhood, then it won't be the same kind of school. Do you think the teachers make it good? Well, as soon as the kids change substantially, those good teachers will be looking for, and finding, jobs in a school with more serious, well-behaved kids.