The thread for the, "buying under $600,000," crowd.

[Anonymous]

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Sigh, more lies.... let me address them

Those apartments you described are fairfax towers, idylwood towers or idylwood village. None of them are low income, none are subsidized and none are visible from pimmit hills. In fact they are closer to britney parc which is a neighborhood full of near million dollar homes and if you think those apartments are a negative they would affect britney parc not pimmit hills. Last I checked Britney parc is selling without issues. There are also other neighborhoods near those apartments with million dollar plus homes that sell just fine as well.

I don't know what your hatred is for pimmit hills but until you provide truths you will be called out and reprimanded as an idiot.

This is directed at 13:46

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This one just hit and it's pretty nice and completely renovated with tons of space

http://www.redfin.com/VA/Falls-Church/7414-Paxton-Rd-22043/home/9471718

It's a flip that sold for $378K last October. Vinyl siding, no garage and less than 1900 SF, but they want people to pay $240K more than purchase price for some interior upgrades.

The comparables in this range, it's priced right.

More appealing close-in houses can be found for less.

http://franklymls.com/FX8329849

http://franklymls.com/FX8326468

http://franklymls.com/FX8320724

I'd want to see an itemized list of the flipper's expenditures to see why he thinks this $378K house is worth close to $620K a few months later.

Those aren't the same market, very poor schools.

Same curriculum. Schools are fine if you focus on your own kid.

Also don't like that you can see ugly apartments from backyard of this house.

For that price you can almost tear down and build new, crazy to pay $600K for a shack.

22042 is filled with more shacks and no one wants to tear them down and build new because that market isn't in demand.

Oh and most of 22042 is lined with really low rent apartments vs pimmit hills which has higher rent apartments across the street on the perimeter across a street. In fact many places in 22042 sit next to apartments rather than being seperated by a street.

Cross Route 7 from Pimmit Hills and there are many low-rent, subsidized apartments off Pimmit Drive. I would not want to be in some of those areas at night. There are also some new builds in 22042, although not as many as in Pimmit Hills.

For $600K, you don't need to settle for a shack in Pimmit Hills where some flipper did some quick upgrades. There are plenty of other neighborhoods in NoVa and Maryland to consider and the schools are fine.

Um, no. I lived in that large apartment building on the corner of Pimmit Dr. and Leesburg Pike ten years ago when I was single and 24 years old and it was a fantastic neighborhood. Never did I run across anyone that you'd consider "undesirable" and never did I feel unsafe either walking or driving around. Plus, there's no way in hell my parents would have let me live there if they felt it wasn't a good area. We are renting a house in North Arlington now and would definitely consider buying a house in Pimmit Hills. We haven't seriously started looking yet, so this thread is really helpful.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Sigh, more lies.... let me address them

Those apartments you described are fairfax towers, idylwood towers or idylwood village. None of them are low income, none are subsidized and none are visible from pimmit hills. In fact they are closer to britney parc which is a neighborhood full of near million dollar homes and if you think those apartments are a negative they would affect britney parc not pimmit hills. Last I checked Britney parc is selling without issues. There are also other neighborhoods near those apartments with million dollar plus homes that sell just fine as well.

I don't know what your hatred is for pimmit hills but until you provide truths you will be called out and reprimanded as an idiot.

This is directed at 13:46

Sorry but Pimmit Drive, Los Pueblos and Matera Drive behind Marshall HS is a bad area known for gang activity and other illegal conduct.
Idylwood Village is the worst, the Idylwood Towers are OK. And it's just across Route 7 from Pimmit Hills.

[Anonymous]

If anyone is looking under $400k in Fairfax City area - my neighbor and I went for a look-see at this one today: FC8329443

http://www.mlsfinder.com/md_mris/kw_674/index.cfm?action=listing_detail&property_id=FC8329443&searchkey=a46c72fd-d216-a40d-1385-66109cc9a7ab

Needs some updating but overall nice sunny yard, fresh paint and updated baths but kitchen needs updating (livable).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Sigh, more lies.... let me address them

Those apartments you described are fairfax towers, idylwood towers or idylwood village. None of them are low income, none are subsidized and none are visible from pimmit hills. In fact they are closer to britney parc which is a neighborhood full of near million dollar homes and if you think those apartments are a negative they would affect britney parc not pimmit hills. Last I checked Britney parc is selling without issues. There are also other neighborhoods near those apartments with million dollar plus homes that sell just fine as well.

I don't know what your hatred is for pimmit hills but until you provide truths you will be called out and reprimanded as an idiot.

When prices hit a price point over $800K in PH, even for nicer homes that are new or practically new, it's much harder to sell.

http://franklymls.com/FX8293066

http://franklymls.com/FX8245699

So people being solicited to buy shacks prime for a tear down for over $600K deserve to know they have other alternatives, not to mention that the house in question sold for less than $400K about six months ago. I don't think the neighborhood is very appealing or that it's remotely clear that the improvements warrant such a giant mark-up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Sigh, more lies.... let me address them

Those apartments you described are fairfax towers, idylwood towers or idylwood village. None of them are low income, none are subsidized and none are visible from pimmit hills. In fact they are closer to britney parc which is a neighborhood full of near million dollar homes and if you think those apartments are a negative they would affect britney parc not pimmit hills. Last I checked Britney parc is selling without issues. There are also other neighborhoods near those apartments with million dollar plus homes that sell just fine as well.

I don't know what your hatred is for pimmit hills but until you provide truths you will be called out and reprimanded as an idiot.

This is directed at 13:46

Sorry but Pimmit Drive, Los Pueblos and Matera Drive behind Marshall HS is a bad area known for gang activity and other illegal conduct.
Idylwood Village is the worst, the Idylwood Towers are OK. And it's just across Route 7 from Pimmit Hills.

Are you the police or did you time travel 20 years?

There is a police bike station at idylwood towers and it was voted in by the condo board not because of crime but for income. Point being that area is very safe. Which gangs? The indian it tech support gang? Cause most of idywood village is now mostly recent immigrants from India and some Hispanics. Only a racist idiot would think recent immigrants are gang related. In fact according to fairfax county police the little immigrant gang activity that exists comes from Herndon and the 7 corners baily crossroads area which is partly in 22042. So before you start making things up you should check your own area.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Sigh, more lies.... let me address them

Those apartments you described are fairfax towers, idylwood towers or idylwood village. None of them are low income, none are subsidized and none are visible from pimmit hills. In fact they are closer to britney parc which is a neighborhood full of near million dollar homes and if you think those apartments are a negative they would affect britney parc not pimmit hills. Last I checked Britney parc is selling without issues. There are also other neighborhoods near those apartments with million dollar plus homes that sell just fine as well.

I don't know what your hatred is for pimmit hills but until you provide truths you will be called out and reprimanded as an idiot.

When prices hit a price point over $800K in PH, even for nicer homes that are new or practically new, it's much harder to sell.

http://franklymls.com/FX8293066

http://franklymls.com/FX8245699

So people being solicited to buy shacks prime for a tear down for over $600K deserve to know they have other alternatives, not to mention that the house in question sold for less than $400K about six months ago. I don't think the neighborhood is very appealing or that it's remotely clear that the improvements warrant such a giant mark-up.

Again check your facts, homes in pimmit hills that are properly priced in the 800 to 950 range sell without issues. The first home is 1.3 million and the second is a small new construction.

Besides what does this have to do with homes under 600k.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Same curriculum. Schools are fine if you focus on your own kid.

Also don't like that you can see ugly apartments from backyard of this house.

For that price you can almost tear down and build new, crazy to pay $600K for a shack.

Don't be ridiculous. Focusing on your own kids is all very well but it can't negate the fact that the same house would sell for more in a better school district. You are trying to deny that schools affect house pricing and it just is not correct. They do, very much so, otherwise the whole S. Arlington vs. N. Arlington would be a non-issue. Otherwise the stroller brigade would not be deserting hip, fun areas of DC when kids inch closer to ES age. Otherwise shacks in AU park wouldn't be selling close to a million dollars. Wake up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Sigh, more lies.... let me address them

Those apartments you described are fairfax towers, idylwood towers or idylwood village. None of them are low income, none are subsidized and none are visible from pimmit hills. In fact they are closer to britney parc which is a neighborhood full of near million dollar homes and if you think those apartments are a negative they would affect britney parc not pimmit hills. Last I checked Britney parc is selling without issues. There are also other neighborhoods near those apartments with million dollar plus homes that sell just fine as well.

I don't know what your hatred is for pimmit hills but until you provide truths you will be called out and reprimanded as an idiot.

When prices hit a price point over $800K in PH, even for nicer homes that are new or practically new, it's much harder to sell.

http://franklymls.com/FX8293066

http://franklymls.com/FX8245699

So people being solicited to buy shacks prime for a tear down for over $600K deserve to know they have other alternatives, not to mention that the house in question sold for less than $400K about six months ago. I don't think the neighborhood is very appealing or that it's remotely clear that the improvements warrant such a giant mark-up.

Again check your facts, homes in pimmit hills that are properly priced in the 800 to 950 range sell without issues. The first home is 1.3 million and the second is a small new construction.

Besides what does this have to do with homes under 600k.

Shows they should get a lot more for their money for $600K in what's very much a middlling neighborhood.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Sigh, more lies.... let me address them

Those apartments you described are fairfax towers, idylwood towers or idylwood village. None of them are low income, none are subsidized and none are visible from pimmit hills. In fact they are closer to britney parc which is a neighborhood full of near million dollar homes and if you think those apartments are a negative they would affect britney parc not pimmit hills. Last I checked Britney parc is selling without issues. There are also other neighborhoods near those apartments with million dollar plus homes that sell just fine as well.

I don't know what your hatred is for pimmit hills but until you provide truths you will be called out and reprimanded as an idiot.

When prices hit a price point over $800K in PH, even for nicer homes that are new or practically new, it's much harder to sell.

http://franklymls.com/FX8293066

http://franklymls.com/FX8245699

So people being solicited to buy shacks prime for a tear down for over $600K deserve to know they have other alternatives, not to mention that the house in question sold for less than $400K about six months ago. I don't think the neighborhood is very appealing or that it's remotely clear that the improvements warrant such a giant mark-up.

Again check your facts, homes in pimmit hills that are properly priced in the 800 to 950 range sell without issues. The first home is 1.3 million and the second is a small new construction.

Besides what does this have to do with homes under 600k.

Shows they should get a lot more for their money for $600K in what's very much a middlling neighborhood.

Maybe 4 years a go but if you want more for your money and don't care about schools, location or nearby redevelopments check out 22042.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This one just hit and it's pretty nice and completely renovated with tons of space

http://www.redfin.com/VA/Falls-Church/7414-Paxton-Rd-22043/home/9471718

It's a flip that sold for $378K last October. Vinyl siding, no garage and less than 1900 SF, but they want people to pay $240K more than purchase price for some interior upgrades.

That particular house is marked up for the premium location within PH - it's literally half a block from a shopping center with Trader Joe's, coffee shop, grilled chicken place (coming soon) and a handful of casual restaurants. If you care to cross the street, there's Whole Foods, more restaurants and some specialty shops (gym equipment, Baker Furniture, Architectural Ceramics, Persian food store). Tysons Pimmit library and a large park are a quick walk up a couple of blocks.

Direct view of apartments IS undesirable so perhaps a quick landscaping job would take care of that. Also looks like they are still finishing up the patio. These apartments, however, aren't ghetto or cheap.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Same curriculum. Schools are fine if you focus on your own kid.

Also don't like that you can see ugly apartments from backyard of this house.

For that price you can almost tear down and build new, crazy to pay $600K for a shack.

Don't be ridiculous. Focusing on your own kids is all very well but it can't negate the fact that the same house would sell for more in a better school district. You are trying to deny that schools affect house pricing and it just is not correct. They do, very much so, otherwise the whole S. Arlington vs. N. Arlington would be a non-issue. Otherwise the stroller brigade would not be deserting hip, fun areas of DC when kids inch closer to ES age. Otherwise shacks in AU park wouldn't be selling close to a million dollars. Wake up.

Are you seriously trying to compare Pimmit Hills to North Arlington or AU Park? Don't be ridiculous. They aren't even close.

Not to mention that people who really obsess about schools the way you suggest they do want Yorktown, W-L, George Mason, Langley, Madison, McLean, Woodson or Oakton, not Marshall.

Again, for those considering $600K homes there are many possibilities out there that need not involve looking at overpriced homes like this PH tear-down candidate. Stop recommending POS properties in PH at every turn and you may find people react differently when the name comes up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Same curriculum. Schools are fine if you focus on your own kid.

Also don't like that you can see ugly apartments from backyard of this house.

For that price you can almost tear down and build new, crazy to pay $600K for a shack.

Don't be ridiculous. Focusing on your own kids is all very well but it can't negate the fact that the same house would sell for more in a better school district. You are trying to deny that schools affect house pricing and it just is not correct. They do, very much so, otherwise the whole S. Arlington vs. N. Arlington would be a non-issue. Otherwise the stroller brigade would not be deserting hip, fun areas of DC when kids inch closer to ES age. Otherwise shacks in AU park wouldn't be selling close to a million dollars. Wake up.

Are you seriously trying to compare Pimmit Hills to North Arlington or AU Park? Don't be ridiculous. They aren't even close.

Not to mention that people who really obsess about schools the way you suggest they do want Yorktown, W-L, George Mason, Langley, Madison, McLean, Woodson or Oakton, not Marshall.

Again, for those considering $600K homes there are many possibilities out there that need not involve looking at overpriced homes like this PH tear-down candidate. Stop recommending POS properties in PH at every turn and you may find people react differently when the name comes up.

I didn't compare PH to N. Arlington or AU Park house for house (something tells me you know that). I referred to these neighborhoods as examples of a) house prices people would pay for the sake of decent schools, and b) reputational differences between similar neighborhoods on account of schools.

People may very well want Yorktown or Langley or George Mason, but very few properties there can be bought for under 600K. For you to suggest that school quality should not affect housing prices is disingenuous. I wasn't the poster who cited the link but I do live in the neighborhood and can attest to its advantages and disadvantages. For people who have no more than 600K to spend, it's a completely legitimate option that ticks all the boxes except aesthetics.

[Anonymous]

Can we put an end to "shack" talk in this thread? Those of us in the $600K price range could go out to Winchester or Purcellville but are choosing to go for older, smaller, less updated houses closer in for a reason. I live in one of the few sub-1M houses in my DCUM-desirable neighborhood and feel lucky to be here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Same curriculum. Schools are fine if you focus on your own kid.

Also don't like that you can see ugly apartments from backyard of this house.

For that price you can almost tear down and build new, crazy to pay $600K for a shack.

Don't be ridiculous. Focusing on your own kids is all very well but it can't negate the fact that the same house would sell for more in a better school district. You are trying to deny that schools affect house pricing and it just is not correct. They do, very much so, otherwise the whole S. Arlington vs. N. Arlington would be a non-issue. Otherwise the stroller brigade would not be deserting hip, fun areas of DC when kids inch closer to ES age. Otherwise shacks in AU park wouldn't be selling close to a million dollars. Wake up.

Are you seriously trying to compare Pimmit Hills to North Arlington or AU Park? Don't be ridiculous. They aren't even close.

Not to mention that people who really obsess about schools the way you suggest they do want Yorktown, W-L, George Mason, Langley, Madison, McLean, Woodson or Oakton, not Marshall.

Again, for those considering $600K homes there are many possibilities out there that need not involve looking at overpriced homes like this PH tear-down candidate. Stop recommending POS properties in PH at every turn and you may find people react differently when the name comes up.

No one said ph is on par with north Arlington but you definitely can't buy a home under 600k in North Arlington.

And since when are all ph homes pieces of shit? I can post a dozen homes in your area that are far wrprse and sitting longer but everyone already knows that.

Marshall is a good option and is rated well much better than stuart, lee or fall church high.

Ohh I am sure you have seen this list
http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/379716.page