GT/AAP Appeals WISC Scores

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My ds had a 110 NNAT, a 99th percentile FXAT. He is SN and has had IQ testing as part of a neuropsych workup, his overall IQ was 156 (but it was not a WISC test so I don't know if the tests are equivalent).

99th percentile FXAT! Does your kid get in aap in the first round?

Yes, he did, but he also had meetings with the AART written into his IEP for 1st and 2nd grade, so she knew him well and intimated all along that he would qualify for the program. (The kicker is that we still aren't sure where we are placing him, since he is is a small group SN setting most of the day right now and I'm concerned about the size of the AAP classes.)

Incidentally, he is the only boy I know who is absolutely terrible with Legos. His 2nd grade teacher mentioned to me in passing that the better kids are at Legos, the better they should do on the NNAT. I thought that was interesting, must be the same kind of spatial intelligence involved.

Nonverbal FxAT was still decent? (Hmm, I wonder if boys in general do better on NNAT than girls do?)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am the teacher and I certainly hope that the kids who do not belong in AAP (most of them) pick up on my vibe. They need to know that they are in the wrong place, are not that bright, and should be back in the gen ed pop. Parents have ruined what was GT and made it into "I will push and push until my DC is in AAP regardless of whether they belong there". Most of your AAP kids will go to NOVA and then possibly get jobs at McDonalds (hopefully as supervisors once the interviewers see that they were AAP in elementary school).

I think we should complain to the county or education department about these kind of teachers........!! I think Its a good suitable job in McDonalds for you .!! Why don't you quit your job and try in subway or McDonalds.

[Anonymous]

Finally done with the appeal. It'll be a long month of June...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am the teacher and I certainly hope that the kids who do not belong in AAP (most of them) pick up on my vibe. They need to know that they are in the wrong place, are not that bright, and should be back in the gen ed pop. Parents have ruined what was GT and made it into "I will push and push until my DC is in AAP regardless of whether they belong there". Most of your AAP kids will go to NOVA and then possibly get jobs at McDonalds (hopefully as supervisors once the interviewers see that they were AAP in elementary school).

I think we should complain to the county or education department about these kind of teachers........!! I think Its a good suitable job in McDonalds for you .!! Why don't you quit your job and try in subway or McDonalds.

Stop feeding the troll! She is a deranged anonymous poster attempting to bait you by berating children. Not an AAP teacher.

[Anonymous]

Hope our high WISC can overcome the low GBRS. Good luck to you all.

[Anonymous]

Plan on putting DD file together for start of next school year

VCI 116
PRI 115

this is off the top of my head:

WM 126
PR 128

FSIQ=126

GBRS 12

what are the chances of her getting in? Doesnt seem likely with low score does it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Plan on putting DD file together for start of next school year

VCI 116
PRI 115

this is off the top of my head:

WM 126
PR 128

FSIQ=126

GBRS 12

what are the chances of her getting in? Doesnt seem likely with low score does it?

I do not think it looks likely; it appears to me that your DC would do well in a general ed class.

[Anonymous]

Agreed. I would hate to put your hopes down, but the low VCI and PRI will be hard to look appealing.

[Anonymous]

Thanks for your honesty. She is quite a bright child and very hardworking. I am sure she will do well no matter what program she gets into.

[Anonymous]

this is PP, also most likely I will give it a try and see what happens but I wont appeal it. I am a believer that if your child is truly "AAP material" they would get in the first round.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:this is PP, also most likely I will give it a try and see what happens but I wont appeal it. I am a believer that if your child is truly "AAP material" they would get in the first round.

Disagreed. I've seen quite a few average children with low tests scores get in the first round due to the high GBRS. The mother of the very"average" child was quite surprised that her son actually made it in. He had low NNAT and low FxAT scores.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:this is PP, also most likely I will give it a try and see what happens but I wont appeal it. I am a believer that if your child is truly "AAP material" they would get in the first round.

Disagreed. I've seen quite a few average children with low tests scores get in the first round due to the high GBRS. The mother of the very"average" child was quite surprised that her son actually made it in. He had low NNAT and low FxAT scores.

hmm really? thats good to know, gives me some hope.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:this is PP, also most likely I will give it a try and see what happens but I wont appeal it. I am a believer that if your child is truly "AAP material" they would get in the first round.

The AART in our school suggested to appeal and said on average %50 of appeals win. It's a process not a destiny, IMO.

[Anonymous]

The AART in our school suggested to appeal and said on average %50 of appeals win. It's a process not a destiny, IMO.
+1

[Anonymous]

The 50% appeals number is misleading. it is something like 70% with WISC (probably people with lower wiscs do not appeal), and much less likely without testing.