GT/AAP Appeals WISC Scores

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am the teacher and I certainly hope that the kids who do not belong in AAP (most of them) pick up on my vibe. They need to know that they are in the wrong place, are not that bright, and should be back in the gen ed pop. Parents have ruined what was GT and made it into "I will push and push until my DC is in AAP regardless of whether they belong there". Most of your AAP kids will go to NOVA and then possibly get jobs at McDonalds (hopefully as supervisors once the interviewers see that they were AAP in elementary school).

Are you for real ?.. This is a a very helpful thread, please do not ruin it by starting completely off topic discussions.

[Anonymous]

That's right! Go start a new thread to make complaints about whatever you want, but not here.

[Anonymous]

Is reality about your kid too harsh for you?

[Anonymous]

We are #1 on the list. Just a quick update...
NNAT 135 FxAT 79%

[Anonymous]

This one comes and goes. She's sounding even more mentally ill than she did this time last year. The year before that she was really certifiable. Remember the "choke on your bagels" troll? I think this is her.

[Anonymous]

Are you talking about the mom who can't accept the fact that her child did not make AAP?

[Anonymous]

will high WISC (ex: 150) override low Fxat (ex:75%)?

[Anonymous]

Can you list your WISC provider, ex: 140 (GMU), 141 (NON-GMU)?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am the teacher and I certainly hope that the kids who do not belong in AAP (most of them) pick up on my vibe. They need to know that they are in the wrong place, are not that bright, and should be back in the gen ed pop. Parents have ruined what was GT and made it into "I will push and push until my DC is in AAP regardless of whether they belong there". Most of your AAP kids will go to NOVA and then possibly get jobs at McDonalds (hopefully as supervisors once the interviewers see that they were AAP in elementary school).

Your thought process is not logical. Do you think that making two-thirds of your students feel inferior and out of place will cause them to go home and request that their parents take them out of AAP, the parents to contact the AAP office and leave messages that their kids should never have been accepted to AAP, and the selection committee, the advisory committee, Carol Horn, and the school board to decide to drop acceptance rates to 5%? All through your subtle psychological abuse of a few kids? If that is your thought process than how gifted are you yourself? Obviously your higher-ups have a different vision for AAP than you do. If you disagree with them you should take it up with them, not make the lives of innocent children miserable. Targeting the children accomplishes nothing other than to make you a bad teacher.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm seeing on the list and a few friends kids (including mine) that very high NNAT's seem to coincide with very high WISC's mostly. Thoughts/comments?

My DC has a NNAT of 135 (99%) and WISC FSIQ of 140 (99.6%).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm seeing on the list and a few friends kids (including mine) that very high NNAT's seem to coincide with very high WISC's mostly. Thoughts/comments?

My DC's NNAT was 109 and WISC FSIQ was 149

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:AAP is open to any parent who can afford to privately test and push. Does it mean their child belongs there? Absolutely not! so many parents push/appeal and so many students should not be there. As a center AAP teacher I would hazard to guess that two thirds of your very average snowflakes do not belong. No matter what you may think, they are not gifted or advanced. but please push to get them into AA P and make that program even weaker.

Parents did not invent the system, the criteria, or the rules. The AAP group is what it is, even if you think it should be otherwise. I'm sure that the two-thirds of your students you feel don't belong pick up on your opinion of them and suffer for it. It isn't fair to them for you to remain in your teaching position if this is how you feel. For your own sake you may wish to move on. It sounds like you may have been teaching for a long time and remembering a bygone era. You may be close to retirement and feel you have no other options. But I would try to work positively in the new framework and come to terms with the fact that your job is now to teach the top 15, 20, or 25 percent and not the top 5 percent. That is the job.

I bet this is my DD's teacher. She repeatability lectures the class about how lucky they are to be in the program, and how some do not belong. She lectures about working harder to make sure they pass(ed) the SOL's. I am really hoping that the teacher is not back next year. And not just for that, but also for teaching factually incorrect information in science.

Oh, my! I wouldn't want my child anywhere near a teacher like this. Which school is this?

[Anonymous]

My ds had a 110 NNAT, a 99th percentile FXAT. He is SN and has had IQ testing as part of a neuropsych workup, his overall IQ was 156 (but it was not a WISC test so I don't know if the tests are equivalent).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My ds had a 110 NNAT, a 99th percentile FXAT. He is SN and has had IQ testing as part of a neuropsych workup, his overall IQ was 156 (but it was not a WISC test so I don't know if the tests are equivalent).

99th percentile FXAT! Does your kid get in aap in the first round?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My ds had a 110 NNAT, a 99th percentile FXAT. He is SN and has had IQ testing as part of a neuropsych workup, his overall IQ was 156 (but it was not a WISC test so I don't know if the tests are equivalent).

99th percentile FXAT! Does your kid get in aap in the first round?

Yes, he did, but he also had meetings with the AART written into his IEP for 1st and 2nd grade, so she knew him well and intimated all along that he would qualify for the program. (The kicker is that we still aren't sure where we are placing him, since he is is a small group SN setting most of the day right now and I'm concerned about the size of the AAP classes.)

Incidentally, he is the only boy I know who is absolutely terrible with Legos. His 2nd grade teacher mentioned to me in passing that the better kids are at Legos, the better they should do on the NNAT. I thought that was interesting, must be the same kind of spatial intelligence involved.