GT/AAP Appeals WISC Scores

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The 50% appeals number is misleading. it is something like 70% with WISC (probably people with lower wiscs do not appeal), and much less likely without testing.


Is this based on a factual data or more of a assumption?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The 50% appeals number is misleading. it is something like 70% with WISC (probably people with lower wiscs do not appeal), and much less likely without testing.


Really? You are right that's much different than saying %50 win. May I ask how do you know this? Is this something the AART/county suggested?
Anonymous
We just sent AAP appeal last week for a 4th grader with GBRS=9 & WISC FSIQ=152 %99.9 with VCI=146, PRI=139,WMI=138, PSI=152.

I have to admit I have no idea what the bench marks are and where other 4th graders stand. I am very new to the AAP process as never applied before until my child's teacher recommended it. Original file included some test my child took in 2nd grade, I remember NNAT=125.

I am trying to find out what the acceptable ranges? and also, is there any program available other than AAP for my kid who has high IQ and needs to be challenged? The psychologist suggested good private schools but we can't afford it now and was looking for something the county offers.

Many thanks in advance!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:We just sent AAP appeal last week for a 4th grader with GBRS=9 & WISC FSIQ=152 %99.9 with VCI=146, PRI=139,WMI=138, PSI=152.

I have to admit I have no idea what the bench marks are and where other 4th graders stand. I am very new to the AAP process as never applied before until my child's teacher recommended it. Original file included some test my child took in 2nd grade, I remember NNAT=125.

I am trying to find out what the acceptable ranges? and also, is there any program available other than AAP for my kid who has high IQ and needs to be challenged? The psychologist suggested good private schools but we can't afford it now and was looking for something the county offers.

Many thanks in advance!


Yes, it's called FCPS general ed, which is filled to the brim with similar kids whose parents aren't quite as crazy or pushy as many of the people on these forums.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We just sent AAP appeal last week for a 4th grader with GBRS=9 & WISC FSIQ=152 %99.9 with VCI=146, PRI=139,WMI=138, PSI=152.

I have to admit I have no idea what the bench marks are and where other 4th graders stand. I am very new to the AAP process as never applied before until my child's teacher recommended it. Original file included some test my child took in 2nd grade, I remember NNAT=125.

I am trying to find out what the acceptable ranges? and also, is there any program available other than AAP for my kid who has high IQ and needs to be challenged? The psychologist suggested good private schools but we can't afford it now and was looking for something the county offers.

Many thanks in advance!


Yes, it's called FCPS general ed, which is filled to the brim with similar kids whose parents aren't quite as crazy or pushy as many of the people on these forums.


Appreciate the reply, could you please refer to material for general ed? I couldn't find anything on FCPS website. Is it school based?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:We just sent AAP appeal last week for a 4th grader with GBRS=9 & WISC FSIQ=152 %99.9 with VCI=146, PRI=139,WMI=138, PSI=152.

I have to admit I have no idea what the bench marks are and where other 4th graders stand. I am very new to the AAP process as never applied before until my child's teacher recommended it. Original file included some test my child took in 2nd grade, I remember NNAT=125.

I am trying to find out what the acceptable ranges? and also, is there any program available other than AAP for my kid who has high IQ and needs to be challenged? The psychologist suggested good private schools but we can't afford it now and was looking for something the county offers.

Many thanks in advance!


Your child seems very smart and probably belongs in AAP. I would think the AAP is best suited for your DC. Public schools are nice but not challenging enough for a child with an IQ of 152.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We just sent AAP appeal last week for a 4th grader with GBRS=9 & WISC FSIQ=152 %99.9 with VCI=146, PRI=139,WMI=138, PSI=152.

I have to admit I have no idea what the bench marks are and where other 4th graders stand. I am very new to the AAP process as never applied before until my child's teacher recommended it. Original file included some test my child took in 2nd grade, I remember NNAT=125.

I am trying to find out what the acceptable ranges? and also, is there any program available other than AAP for my kid who has high IQ and needs to be challenged? The psychologist suggested good private schools but we can't afford it now and was looking for something the county offers.

Many thanks in advance!


Your child seems very smart and probably belongs in AAP. I would think the AAP is best suited for your DC. Public schools are nice but not challenging enough for a child with an IQ of 152.


That's what the evaluate suggested but his GBRS is low at 9 out of 16. Do you think he has a chance? The AART in school seemed very indifferent about the WISC scores, so I assumed it's a loss if FCPS committee is also going to react that way also. Bottom line, I want him to excel, if it's not AAP something else at least. But I have a lot of questions being new to this thing. I am glad to find this forum with so many people with experience in this area. Any suggestions is welcomed. thx.
Anonymous
Here is the updated list again. We are #4 on the list. Good luck everyone!

1. WISC: VCI 132 PRI 123 WM 120 PS 137 FSIQ 135
GBRS: 8
NNAT 135
FxAT 79%

2. WISC: VCI 124 PRI 141 FSIQ 138
GBRS: 11

3. WISC: VCI 138 PRI 137 WM 129 PS 141 FSIQ 147
GBRS: 8
NNAT: 145
FxAT: 86%

4. WISC: VCI 138 PRI 131 WM 126 PS 128 FSIQ 140
GBRS: 13
NNAT: 135
FxAT: 83%

5. WISC: VCI 128 PRI 120 FSIQ 129
GBRS: 10

6. WISC: FSIQ 144
GBRS: 16
NNAT: 126
FxAT: 76

7. SB: 132
WISC: 133
GBRS: 11

8. WISC: FSIQ 145 VCI 137 PRI 135 WM 130 PS 140
GBRS: 6
NNAT 145
FxAT 78%

9. WISC: VCI 115 PRI 136 WM 110 PS 115 FSIQ 126
GBRS 12

10. WISC: 128 PR 133 WM 126 PS 121 FSIQ 135
GBRS 12

11. WISC: VSI 112 PRI 139 WM 110 PS 115 FSIQ 126

12. WISC: FSIQ 129
GBRS 8

13. WISC: VCI 138 PRI 132
GBRS 8

14. WISC: FSIQ 132 VCI 135 PRI 130
GBRS 10

15. WISC: VC 130 PR 127 WM 123 PS 112 FSIQ: 130
GBRS: 13

16. WISC: FSIQ 149 VCI 134 PRI 141 PSI 133
NNAT 139
CogAt 89%
GBRS 6

17. WISC: 150
NNAT:129
CogAt:83%

18. WISC: FSIQ: 123 VCI: 126 PRI: 125
GBRS: 11

19. FSIQ: 134 VCI: 132 PRI: 137 WMI-120 PSI: 112
GBRS: 8

20. WISC: FSIQ 146 VCI: 140 PRI:149 WMI:129 PSI:121
NNAT : 146
GBRS : 6
FxAT : 86%

21. WISC: FSIQ: 124 VCI:119 PRI:125 WMI:120 PSI:109
NNAT: 150
FxAT: 71%
GBRS: 13

22. WISC: FSIQ 130 VCI: 119 PRI 125 WMI: 110 PSI: 139
NNAT: 124
FxAT 89%
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Here is the updated list again. We are #4 on the list. Good luck everyone!

1. WISC: VCI 132 PRI 123 WM 120 PS 137 FSIQ 135
GBRS: 8
NNAT 135
FxAT 79%

2. WISC: VCI 124 PRI 141 FSIQ 138
GBRS: 11

3. WISC: VCI 138 PRI 137 WM 129 PS 141 FSIQ 147
GBRS: 8
NNAT: 145
FxAT: 86%

4. WISC: VCI 138 PRI 131 WM 126 PS 128 FSIQ 140
GBRS: 13
NNAT: 135
FxAT: 83%

5. WISC: VCI 128 PRI 120 FSIQ 129
GBRS: 10

6. WISC: FSIQ 144
GBRS: 16
NNAT: 126
FxAT: 76

7. SB: 132
WISC: 133
GBRS: 11

8. WISC: FSIQ 145 VCI 137 PRI 135 WM 130 PS 140
GBRS: 6
NNAT 145
FxAT 78%

9. WISC: VCI 115 PRI 136 WM 110 PS 115 FSIQ 126
GBRS 12

10. WISC: 128 PR 133 WM 126 PS 121 FSIQ 135
GBRS 12

11. WISC: VSI 112 PRI 139 WM 110 PS 115 FSIQ 126

12. WISC: FSIQ 129
GBRS 8

13. WISC: VCI 138 PRI 132
GBRS 8

14. WISC: FSIQ 132 VCI 135 PRI 130
GBRS 10

15. WISC: VC 130 PR 127 WM 123 PS 112 FSIQ: 130
GBRS: 13

16. WISC: FSIQ 149 VCI 134 PRI 141 PSI 133
NNAT 139
CogAt 89%
GBRS 6

17. WISC: 150
NNAT:129
CogAt:83%

18. WISC: FSIQ: 123 VCI: 126 PRI: 125
GBRS: 11

19. FSIQ: 134 VCI: 132 PRI: 137 WMI-120 PSI: 112
GBRS: 8

20. WISC: FSIQ 146 VCI: 140 PRI:149 WMI:129 PSI:121
NNAT : 146
GBRS : 6
FxAT : 86%

21. WISC: FSIQ: 124 VCI:119 PRI:125 WMI:120 PSI:109
NNAT: 150
FxAT: 71%
GBRS: 13

22. WISC: FSIQ 130 VCI: 119 PRI 125 WMI: 110 PSI: 139
NNAT: 124
FxAT 89%


What is this list? Are these scores who got in?
Anonymous
These are all scores that are appealing

For # 10 on the list can you please add NNAT2 156 & Fxat 89

Thanks
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Anonymous
I cannot believe that your child (#10) did not get in during the first round. S/he had impressive scores, so I went back to the list expecting a GBRS of 6. So surprised that the 12 and those test scores were not enough. I would bet good money that the Full Scale WISC of 135 will be plenty to get your child accepted on appeal.
Anonymous
PS I back this up with my kid's own experience. Accepted in first round with NNAT 126, FxAT 89, GBRS 12, and Full Scale WISC (submitted with parent referral) of 137. Good luck!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:PS I back this up with my kid's own experience. Accepted in first round with NNAT 126, FxAT 89, GBRS 12, and Full Scale WISC (submitted with parent referral) of 137. Good luck!


This makes me hopeful. We are #4 on the list, in a similar situation as #10. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
Anonymous
WISC: FSIQ: 150
NNAT: 151
FxAT: 78%
GBRS: 11

mailed appeal last week.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Here is the updated list again. We are #4 on the list. Good luck everyone!

1. WISC: VCI 132 PRI 123 WM 120 PS 137 FSIQ 135
GBRS: 8
NNAT 135
FxAT 79%

2. WISC: VCI 124 PRI 141 FSIQ 138
GBRS: 11

3. WISC: VCI 138 PRI 137 WM 129 PS 141 FSIQ 147
GBRS: 8
NNAT: 145
FxAT: 86%

4. WISC: VCI 138 PRI 131 WM 126 PS 128 FSIQ 140
GBRS: 13
NNAT: 135
FxAT: 83%

5. WISC: VCI 128 PRI 120 FSIQ 129
GBRS: 10

6. WISC: FSIQ 144
GBRS: 16
NNAT: 126
FxAT: 76

7. SB: 132
WISC: 133
GBRS: 11

8. WISC: FSIQ 145 VCI 137 PRI 135 WM 130 PS 140
GBRS: 6
NNAT 145
FxAT 78%

9. WISC: VCI 115 PRI 136 WM 110 PS 115 FSIQ 126
GBRS 12

10. WISC: 128 PR 133 WM 126 PS 121 FSIQ 135
GBRS 12

11. WISC: VSI 112 PRI 139 WM 110 PS 115 FSIQ 126

12. WISC: FSIQ 129
GBRS 8

13. WISC: VCI 138 PRI 132
GBRS 8

14. WISC: FSIQ 132 VCI 135 PRI 130
GBRS 10

15. WISC: VC 130 PR 127 WM 123 PS 112 FSIQ: 130
GBRS: 13

16. WISC: FSIQ 149 VCI 134 PRI 141 PSI 133
NNAT 139
CogAt 89%
GBRS 6

17. WISC: 150
NNAT:129
CogAt:83%

18. WISC: FSIQ: 123 VCI: 126 PRI: 125
GBRS: 11

19. FSIQ: 134 VCI: 132 PRI: 137 WMI-120 PSI: 112
GBRS: 8

20. WISC: FSIQ 146 VCI: 140 PRI:149 WMI:129 PSI:121
NNAT : 146
GBRS : 6
FxAT : 86%

21. WISC: FSIQ: 124 VCI:119 PRI:125 WMI:120 PSI:109
NNAT: 150
FxAT: 71%
GBRS: 13

22. WISC: FSIQ 130 VCI: 119 PRI 125 WMI: 110 PSI: 139
NNAT: 124
FxAT 89%




it looks like all of them with high nnat and low fxat scores.
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