Herndon High

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am taking the dad’s information with a huge grain of salt right now. If you truly thought your son’s life was in danger, I have no idea why you’d call the school liaison and then wait for a call back. The school liaison isn’t even admin, that’s who you call when you need assistance with food or clothing or medical care. I believe dad knew his son was involved in some bad stuff, maybe hoped it wouldn’t go this far, didn’t want to go to law enforcement just in case, but I do not think any of us can confidently say the school/FCPS is responsible for what happened to this child in his personal life, outside of school, outside of school hours.

It could have been ignorance. It could have been fear of police (eg, afraid police would lead to ICE arrest$. Who knows. However, if a liaison receives a call, they need to follow through.

DP. No person in a FCPS school building, except a SRO who is also an FCPD officer, is equipped to deal with an actual criminal. Returning a phone call would have done nothing unless you're dealing with the Police (which he may have been afraid of).

I am doubtful that FCPS will release what they know about the students involved in these types of situations.

Many school employees, if not all school employees, are mandatory reporters, right? Seems like the resource officer at least should have passed the info along to the police.

Well yes but if it were the SRO, that brings us right back to the police he was assumed to be afraid of. The SRO is a police officer.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am taking the dad’s information with a huge grain of salt right now. If you truly thought your son’s life was in danger, I have no idea why you’d call the school liaison and then wait for a call back. The school liaison isn’t even admin, that’s who you call when you need assistance with food or clothing or medical care. I believe dad knew his son was involved in some bad stuff, maybe hoped it wouldn’t go this far, didn’t want to go to law enforcement just in case, but I do not think any of us can confidently say the school/FCPS is responsible for what happened to this child in his personal life, outside of school, outside of school hours.

It could have been ignorance. It could have been fear of police (eg, afraid police would lead to ICE arrest$. Who knows. However, if a liaison receives a call, they need to follow through.

DP. No person in a FCPS school building, except a SRO who is also an FCPD officer, is equipped to deal with an actual criminal. Returning a phone call would have done nothing unless you're dealing with the Police (which he may have been afraid of).

I am doubtful that FCPS will release what they know about the students involved in these types of situations.

Many school employees, if not all school employees, are mandatory reporters, right? Seems like the resource officer at least should have passed the info along to the police.

Well yes but if it were the SRO, that brings us right back to the police he was assumed to be afraid of. The SRO is a police officer.

It is not clear whether or not the SRO was informed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Will the school board have a moment of silence for the victim at their next meeting?

It’s the least they can do.

How about telling students about the death? Nothing has been communicated to them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am taking the dad’s information with a huge grain of salt right now. If you truly thought your son’s life was in danger, I have no idea why you’d call the school liaison and then wait for a call back. The school liaison isn’t even admin, that’s who you call when you need assistance with food or clothing or medical care. I believe dad knew his son was involved in some bad stuff, maybe hoped it wouldn’t go this far, didn’t want to go to law enforcement just in case, but I do not think any of us can confidently say the school/FCPS is responsible for what happened to this child in his personal life, outside of school, outside of school hours.

It could have been ignorance. It could have been fear of police (eg, afraid police would lead to ICE arrest$. Who knows. However, if a liaison receives a call, they need to follow through.

DP. No person in a FCPS school building, except a SRO who is also an FCPD officer, is equipped to deal with an actual criminal. Returning a phone call would have done nothing unless you're dealing with the Police (which he may have been afraid of).

I am doubtful that FCPS will release what they know about the students involved in these types of situations.

Many school employees, if not all school employees, are mandatory reporters, right? Seems like the resource officer at least should have passed the info along to the police.

Well yes but if it were the SRO, that brings us right back to the police he was assumed to be afraid of. The SRO is a police officer.

The liaison is not the SRO.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This must be very frightening for the Forestville ES parents who made the decision to buy so close to Herndon High.

What does it say about you that rather than expressing sympathy for the victim, or at the very least trying to reduce crime in your community, you seek to deflect to an entire unrelated community, many of whom are scared to send their kids to a school where kids receive death threats and are murdered in drive-bys?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This must be very frightening for the Forestville ES parents who made the decision to buy so close to Herndon High.

What does it say about you that rather than expressing sympathy for the victim, or at the very least trying to reduce crime in your community, you seek to deflect to an entire unrelated community, many of whom are scared to send their kids to a school where kids receive death threats and are murdered in drive-bys?

Your community is not unrelated. You live there too. You just choose to turn your back on your immediate neighbors and use legal and political action to try to make sure it stays someone else's problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This must be very frightening for the Forestville ES parents who made the decision to buy so close to Herndon High.

What does it say about you that rather than expressing sympathy for the victim, or at the very least trying to reduce crime in your community, you seek to deflect to an entire unrelated community, many of whom are scared to send their kids to a school where kids receive death threats and are murdered in drive-bys?

Your community is not unrelated. You live there too. You just choose to turn your back on your immediate neighbors and use legal and political action to try to make sure it stays someone else's problem.

I don’t live in Herndon, but I certainly feel for the victim and his family more than you do.

I haven’t turned my back on anyone, in fact, I’d like to see some accountability from Herndon High administration and Gatehouse to make sure this never happens again. I’m not interested in sweeping this under the rug like you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This must be very frightening for the Forestville ES parents who made the decision to buy so close to Herndon High.

What does it say about you that rather than expressing sympathy for the victim, or at the very least trying to reduce crime in your community, you seek to deflect to an entire unrelated community, many of whom are scared to send their kids to a school where kids receive death threats and are murdered in drive-bys?

Your community is not unrelated. You live there too. You just choose to turn your back on your immediate neighbors and use legal and political action to try to make sure it stays someone else's problem.

I don’t live in Herndon, but I certainly feel for the victim and his family more than you do.

I haven’t turned my back on anyone, in fact, I’d like to see some accountability from Herndon High administration and Gatehouse to make sure this never happens again. I’m not interested in sweeping this under the rug like you.

What did you expect the school to do? This happened outside of school. The dad said he called the school liaison. Did he leave a message or actually speak with the liaison.

And, no child should be shot, but, honestly, would your kid be out at 9:30 if he was getting death threats?

This is terribly, terribly sad.

But, prosectors and FCPS police and Herndon police all play a part, as well.

We likely will not get a name on the perp for a while. It would be interesting to know if he had ever been in custody. We do not know if he is a Herndon student or not.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This must be very frightening for the Forestville ES parents who made the decision to buy so close to Herndon High.

What does it say about you that rather than expressing sympathy for the victim, or at the very least trying to reduce crime in your community, you seek to deflect to an entire unrelated community, many of whom are scared to send their kids to a school where kids receive death threats and are murdered in drive-bys?

Your community is not unrelated. You live there too. You just choose to turn your back on your immediate neighbors and use legal and political action to try to make sure it stays someone else's problem.

I don’t live in Herndon, but I certainly feel for the victim and his family more than you do.

I haven’t turned my back on anyone, in fact, I’d like to see some accountability from Herndon High administration and Gatehouse to make sure this never happens again. I’m not interested in sweeping this under the rug like you.

I’m a teacher and I genuinely don’t know what anyone at school could’ve / should’ve done. It happened outside of school, after school hours. It’s unclear a) if dad made contact or spoke to the correct person (the liaison was not it, if that’s who he called) and we don’t know if they spoke or he just left a messsge with some vague details . He did not go to law enforcement which would’ve been the better angle, I don’t judge him for that, but school liaison is not who you contact if your son is receiving death threats. It’s entirely possible he did not include details about potential gang affiliation or involvement or anything he felt would compromise his son.

Schools do a lot to try to stand in the gaps and keep kids safe but we cannot control what happens in their private lives, off school
property, on their own time. There is way, way too much unknown here to assume the school could’ve had much affect over any of this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This must be very frightening for the Forestville ES parents who made the decision to buy so close to Herndon High.

What does it say about you that rather than expressing sympathy for the victim, or at the very least trying to reduce crime in your community, you seek to deflect to an entire unrelated community, many of whom are scared to send their kids to a school where kids receive death threats and are murdered in drive-bys?

Your community is not unrelated. You live there too. You just choose to turn your back on your immediate neighbors and use legal and political action to try to make sure it stays someone else's problem.

I don’t live in Herndon, but I certainly feel for the victim and his family more than you do.

I haven’t turned my back on anyone, in fact, I’d like to see some accountability from Herndon High administration and Gatehouse to make sure this never happens again. I’m not interested in sweeping this under the rug like you.

I’m a teacher and I genuinely don’t know what anyone at school could’ve / should’ve done. It happened outside of school, after school hours. It’s unclear a) if dad made contact or spoke to the correct person (the liaison was not it, if that’s who he called) and we don’t know if they spoke or he just left a messsge with some vague details . He did not go to law enforcement which would’ve been the better angle, I don’t judge him for that, but school liaison is not who you contact if your son is receiving death threats. It’s entirely possible he did not include details about potential gang affiliation or involvement or anything he felt would compromise his son.

Schools do a lot to try to stand in the gaps and keep kids safe but we cannot control what happens in their private lives, off school
property, on their own time. There is way, way too much unknown here to assume the school could’ve had much affect over any of this.

In this day and age, given all the violence in society and schools, if a call did in fact come in, if the liaison did not know the answer, the call shouls have been passed on. Had there been follow up at school, this death may have been prevented.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This must be very frightening for the Forestville ES parents who made the decision to buy so close to Herndon High.

What does it say about you that rather than expressing sympathy for the victim, or at the very least trying to reduce crime in your community, you seek to deflect to an entire unrelated community, many of whom are scared to send their kids to a school where kids receive death threats and are murdered in drive-bys?

Your community is not unrelated. You live there too. You just choose to turn your back on your immediate neighbors and use legal and political action to try to make sure it stays someone else's problem.

I don’t live in Herndon, but I certainly feel for the victim and his family more than you do.

I haven’t turned my back on anyone, in fact, I’d like to see some accountability from Herndon High administration and Gatehouse to make sure this never happens again. I’m not interested in sweeping this under the rug like you.

I’m a teacher and I genuinely don’t know what anyone at school could’ve / should’ve done. It happened outside of school, after school hours. It’s unclear a) if dad made contact or spoke to the correct person (the liaison was not it, if that’s who he called) and we don’t know if they spoke or he just left a messsge with some vague details . He did not go to law enforcement which would’ve been the better angle, I don’t judge him for that, but school liaison is not who you contact if your son is receiving death threats. It’s entirely possible he did not include details about potential gang affiliation or involvement or anything he felt would compromise his son.

Schools do a lot to try to stand in the gaps and keep kids safe but we cannot control what happens in their private lives, off school
property, on their own time. There is way, way too much unknown here to assume the school could’ve had much affect over any of this.

In this day and age, given all the violence in society and schools, if a call did in fact come in, if the liaison did not know the answer, the call shouls have been passed on. Had there been follow up at school, this death may have been prevented.

I'm still not convinced the dad talked to anyone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This must be very frightening for the Forestville ES parents who made the decision to buy so close to Herndon High.

What does it say about you that rather than expressing sympathy for the victim, or at the very least trying to reduce crime in your community, you seek to deflect to an entire unrelated community, many of whom are scared to send their kids to a school where kids receive death threats and are murdered in drive-bys?

Your community is not unrelated. You live there too. You just choose to turn your back on your immediate neighbors and use legal and political action to try to make sure it stays someone else's problem.

I don’t live in Herndon, but I certainly feel for the victim and his family more than you do.

I haven’t turned my back on anyone, in fact, I’d like to see some accountability from Herndon High administration and Gatehouse to make sure this never happens again. I’m not interested in sweeping this under the rug like you.

I’m a teacher and I genuinely don’t know what anyone at school could’ve / should’ve done. It happened outside of school, after school hours. It’s unclear a) if dad made contact or spoke to the correct person (the liaison was not it, if that’s who he called) and we don’t know if they spoke or he just left a messsge with some vague details . He did not go to law enforcement which would’ve been the better angle, I don’t judge him for that, but school liaison is not who you contact if your son is receiving death threats. It’s entirely possible he did not include details about potential gang affiliation or involvement or anything he felt would compromise his son.

Schools do a lot to try to stand in the gaps and keep kids safe but we cannot control what happens in their private lives, off school
property, on their own time. There is way, way too much unknown here to assume the school could’ve had much affect over any of this.

In this day and age, given all the violence in society and schools, if a call did in fact come in, if the liaison did not know the answer, the call shouls have been passed on. Had there been follow up at school, this death may have been prevented.

I'm still not convinced the dad talked to anyone.

Not the same skin color as your Herndon High kid, huh? You Herndon High families pretend that everyone else but you is racist, but I think some self-reflection is in order, because you’ve been over the top going after this grieving family the last couple of days.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This must be very frightening for the Forestville ES parents who made the decision to buy so close to Herndon High.

What does it say about you that rather than expressing sympathy for the victim, or at the very least trying to reduce crime in your community, you seek to deflect to an entire unrelated community, many of whom are scared to send their kids to a school where kids receive death threats and are murdered in drive-bys?

Your community is not unrelated. You live there too. You just choose to turn your back on your immediate neighbors and use legal and political action to try to make sure it stays someone else's problem.

I don’t live in Herndon, but I certainly feel for the victim and his family more than you do.

I haven’t turned my back on anyone, in fact, I’d like to see some accountability from Herndon High administration and Gatehouse to make sure this never happens again. I’m not interested in sweeping this under the rug like you.

I’m a teacher and I genuinely don’t know what anyone at school could’ve / should’ve done. It happened outside of school, after school hours. It’s unclear a) if dad made contact or spoke to the correct person (the liaison was not it, if that’s who he called) and we don’t know if they spoke or he just left a messsge with some vague details . He did not go to law enforcement which would’ve been the better angle, I don’t judge him for that, but school liaison is not who you contact if your son is receiving death threats. It’s entirely possible he did not include details about potential gang affiliation or involvement or anything he felt would compromise his son.

Schools do a lot to try to stand in the gaps and keep kids safe but we cannot control what happens in their private lives, off school
property, on their own time. There is way, way too much unknown here to assume the school could’ve had much affect over any of this.

In this day and age, given all the violence in society and schools, if a call did in fact come in, if the liaison did not know the answer, the call shouls have been passed on. Had there been follow up at school, this death may have been prevented.

This is why I think the details are fuzzy. Perhaps dad called. Perhaps he alluded to something but didn’t come out and say it was death threats. Perhaps he just said “I need to talk can you call me back “ and it wasn’t clear what he needed. What I do NOT think happened is he called and spoke TO the liaison and said “Herndon High student First Last Name sent “_____” to my son with this explicit threat at 9:32 pm on this date and my son is in fear of his life at school and I want to file a report about it “ and then nobody responded or followed up. That is so supremely unlikely . What is more probable is he called and left a message like “I’m concerned about my son please call me back” and maybe nobody knew his concerns or they tried to call back and he didn’t answer. We really don’t know but the first scenario is not plausible , coming from someone who is a teacher and knows how these things go

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This must be very frightening for the Forestville ES parents who made the decision to buy so close to Herndon High.

What does it say about you that rather than expressing sympathy for the victim, or at the very least trying to reduce crime in your community, you seek to deflect to an entire unrelated community, many of whom are scared to send their kids to a school where kids receive death threats and are murdered in drive-bys?

Your community is not unrelated. You live there too. You just choose to turn your back on your immediate neighbors and use legal and political action to try to make sure it stays someone else's problem.

I don’t live in Herndon, but I certainly feel for the victim and his family more than you do.

I haven’t turned my back on anyone, in fact, I’d like to see some accountability from Herndon High administration and Gatehouse to make sure this never happens again. I’m not interested in sweeping this under the rug like you.

I’m a teacher and I genuinely don’t know what anyone at school could’ve / should’ve done. It happened outside of school, after school hours. It’s unclear a) if dad made contact or spoke to the correct person (the liaison was not it, if that’s who he called) and we don’t know if they spoke or he just left a messsge with some vague details . He did not go to law enforcement which would’ve been the better angle, I don’t judge him for that, but school liaison is not who you contact if your son is receiving death threats. It’s entirely possible he did not include details about potential gang affiliation or involvement or anything he felt would compromise his son.

Schools do a lot to try to stand in the gaps and keep kids safe but we cannot control what happens in their private lives, off school
property, on their own time. There is way, way too much unknown here to assume the school could’ve had much affect over any of this.

In this day and age, given all the violence in society and schools, if a call did in fact come in, if the liaison did not know the answer, the call shouls have been passed on. Had there been follow up at school, this death may have been prevented.

I'm still not convinced the dad talked to anyone.

Not the same skin color as your Herndon High kid, huh? You Herndon High families pretend that everyone else but you is racist, but I think some self-reflection is in order, because you’ve been over the top going after this grieving family the last couple of days.

Did you listen to the interview? And, by the way, I am not a Herndon High family and there are likely many people posting on this thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This must be very frightening for the Forestville ES parents who made the decision to buy so close to Herndon High.

What does it say about you that rather than expressing sympathy for the victim, or at the very least trying to reduce crime in your community, you seek to deflect to an entire unrelated community, many of whom are scared to send their kids to a school where kids receive death threats and are murdered in drive-bys?

Your community is not unrelated. You live there too. You just choose to turn your back on your immediate neighbors and use legal and political action to try to make sure it stays someone else's problem.

I don’t live in Herndon, but I certainly feel for the victim and his family more than you do.

I haven’t turned my back on anyone, in fact, I’d like to see some accountability from Herndon High administration and Gatehouse to make sure this never happens again. I’m not interested in sweeping this under the rug like you.

I’m a teacher and I genuinely don’t know what anyone at school could’ve / should’ve done. It happened outside of school, after school hours. It’s unclear a) if dad made contact or spoke to the correct person (the liaison was not it, if that’s who he called) and we don’t know if they spoke or he just left a messsge with some vague details . He did not go to law enforcement which would’ve been the better angle, I don’t judge him for that, but school liaison is not who you contact if your son is receiving death threats. It’s entirely possible he did not include details about potential gang affiliation or involvement or anything he felt would compromise his son.

Schools do a lot to try to stand in the gaps and keep kids safe but we cannot control what happens in their private lives, off school
property, on their own time. There is way, way too much unknown here to assume the school could’ve had much affect over any of this.

In this day and age, given all the violence in society and schools, if a call did in fact come in, if the liaison did not know the answer, the call shouls have been passed on. Had there been follow up at school, this death may have been prevented.

I'm still not convinced the dad talked to anyone.

Not the same skin color as your Herndon High kid, huh? You Herndon High families pretend that everyone else but you is racist, but I think some self-reflection is in order, because you’ve been over the top going after this grieving family the last couple of days.

EXACTLY THIS ^^.