Culture for Girls at Southern Schools

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Anonymous wrote:She needs to go to college in a major city. LA, Boston, NY.

All the girls at the SEC schools we toured seemed really, really happy, even the ones that dod not look like a stereotypical 'Bama sorority rush poster.

If she liked the southern university, let her apply and see what happens. She might meet some really kind, happy, interesting friends at those places.

That's because in the south girls are taught to smile constantly, no matter how happy or unhappy. As I was.

No.

They were all just nice kids.

What a naive response. At the SEC school where my daughter attends, she said there are sororities which will recruit only blondes. Of course they have to take in the occasional brunette here and there so not to make it too obvious, but the unsaid requirement is that you have to be blonde. So nice, right? So nice.

Is it posdible your daughter is just repeating stereotypes that don't hold water?

"All" and "only" quantifiers are a very middle school way to process things.

No, literally she was told by one of the members that she was "lucky" that she got in because they like to have blonde girls be the majority of their house. However, since she has a pretty face and a good number of Instagram followers, she made the cut. She didn't last long there. That's how shallow some of these girls are. My other daughter is in another sorority (Midwest) and it's not like that.

Sorority recruitment is strange at some of these schools and can turn into a weird pretty girl popularity contest and it really isn’t for everyone. A big component of this are the parties which are all held by the frats. The frats want hot fun girls at their parties which circles back to sororities picking girls in a shallow manner.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you want to live in a world where looks don't matter, you're going to need to find a different species to belong to. Greek system or no Greek system.

Humans have always, and will always, care a great deal about physical appearance.

PS. anyone can be blond if they know a good colorist.

Of course looks matter but you shouldn't have to make yourself look like a white woman to be accepted.

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Anonymous wrote:She needs to go to college in a major city. LA, Boston, NY.

All the girls at the SEC schools we toured seemed really, really happy, even the ones that dod not look like a stereotypical 'Bama sorority rush poster.

If she liked the southern university, let her apply and see what happens. She might meet some really kind, happy, interesting friends at those places.

That's because in the south girls are taught to smile constantly, no matter how happy or unhappy. As I was.

No.

They were all just nice kids.

What a naive response. At the SEC school where my daughter attends, she said there are sororities which will recruit only blondes. Of course they have to take in the occasional brunette here and there so not to make it too obvious, but the unsaid requirement is that you have to be blonde. So nice, right? So nice.

Is it posdible your daughter is just repeating stereotypes that don't hold water?

"All" and "only" quantifiers are a very middle school way to process things.

No, literally she was told by one of the members that she was "lucky" that she got in because they like to have blonde girls be the majority of their house. However, since she has a pretty face and a good number of Instagram followers, she made the cut. She didn't last long there. That's how shallow some of these girls are. My other daughter is in another sorority (Midwest) and it's not like that.

Sorority recruitment is strange at some of these schools and can turn into a weird pretty girl popularity contest and it really isn’t for everyone. A big component of this are the parties which are all held by the frats. The frats want hot fun girls at their parties which circles back to sororities picking girls in a shallow manner.

Corporate America is a weird popularity contest. Hell, life is a weird popularity contest. And dimes will always have an advantage, regardless of how little else they bring to the table. Countless studies over decades have shown this. Foyine girls get hired more, paid more, treated better, helped faster when broken down on the side of the road, and the list goes on. You can't escape this reality by avoiding the Greek system in college. Might as well practice for it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you want to live in a world where looks don't matter, you're going to need to find a different species to belong to. Greek system or no Greek system.

Humans have always, and will always, care a great deal about physical appearance.

PS. anyone can be blond if they know a good colorist.

Yes, humans care about looks but to compare that to what's happening at some of these sororities where they're cherry picking blonde girls is ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you want to live in a world where looks don't matter, you're going to need to find a different species to belong to. Greek system or no Greek system.

Humans have always, and will always, care a great deal about physical appearance.

PS. anyone can be blond if they know a good colorist.

Yes, humans care about looks but to compare that to what's happening at some of these sororities where they're cherry picking blonde girls is ridiculous.

No more ridiculous than any other groups that humans self select into.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you want to live in a world where looks don't matter, you're going to need to find a different species to belong to. Greek system or no Greek system.

Humans have always, and will always, care a great deal about physical appearance.

PS. anyone can be blond if they know a good colorist.

Yes, humans care about looks but to compare that to what's happening at some of these sororities where they're cherry picking blonde girls is ridiculous.

No more ridiculous than any other groups that humans self select into.

What groups in the real world? Do you seriously find it okay that sororities are picking members based on hair color? Most of us don't and try to avoid this stuff.

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Anonymous wrote:If you want to live in a world where looks don't matter, you're going to need to find a different species to belong to. Greek system or no Greek system.

Humans have always, and will always, care a great deal about physical appearance.

PS. anyone can be blond if they know a good colorist.

Yes, humans care about looks but to compare that to what's happening at some of these sororities where they're cherry picking blonde girls is ridiculous.

No more ridiculous than any other groups that humans self select into.

Another observation to make is that in the south the racial self separation is a little bit more jarring than it is up north.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There was a string about Vanderbilt and how the girls at Vanderbilt, like a lot of schools in the south, dress up for sorority rush and other social events and that may not be the right setting for every girl. I'm not trying to bash Vanderbilt; I just found this article illuminating:

https://vanderbilthustler.com/2019/01/13/our-campus-culture-pressures-women-into-unhealthy-relationships-with-food-and-their-bodies/

I have a junior daughter who is interested in Duke, Emory, Rice and possibly Vanderbilt. Do all of these schools also have that type of school culture around girls and appearances?

We are Asian American and my daughter has been sad to not "fit in" with the popular girls at her high school, many of whom are tall, blond, skinny, etc. so I would like - if possible - to steer her away from that culture for college.

Yeah, this is very evident when you visit those types of campuses (and i've had friends at some). That would DEFINITELY not be for me (and I rushed). But for some, maybe that's their thing. You just have to know it going into it.

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Anonymous wrote:It's terrible and present at almost all southern schools. Vanderbilt, UVA, SECs are the worst offenders. Some schools like Rice do not have this problem, but most do. Extremely shallow people and rampant, deep-seated lookism.

My UVA daughter ended up pledging a sorority this year. It’s not one of the so-called top tier sororities but she’s found welcoming, kind, fun women there. And it’s not all white women. Just wanted to put that out there. Two of her closest friends are Asian American and they pledged other sororities.
Not saying she should rush but trying to make the point that not all UVA sororities are like the ones described in this thread.

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Anonymous wrote:There are thousands of girls at college. No they aren’t all like these stereotypes. The majority of it is limited to sororities at southern colleges. But that is a small percentage of the total girls on campus. Sure, there is less of this culture in sororities (and overall) at say, University of Chicago. But pretty much any college is going to have a variety of different types of people and your daughter will find her people wherever she ends up.

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Girls sports are big and supported by the community.

And my southern town, girls volleyball and girls gymnastics will get 12,000 residence to show up to support the local girls team.

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Rice is not southern sorority culture. It's the JHU of the south.

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Anonymous wrote:She needs to go to college in a major city. LA, Boston, NY.

All the girls at the SEC schools we toured seemed really, really happy, even the ones that dod not look like a stereotypical 'Bama sorority rush poster.

If she liked the southern university, let her apply and see what happens. She might meet some really kind, happy, interesting friends at those places.

That's because in the south girls are taught to smile constantly, no matter how happy or unhappy. As I was.

No.

They were all just nice kids.

What a naive response. At the SEC school where my daughter attends, she said there are sororities which will recruit only blondes. Of course they have to take in the occasional brunette here and there so not to make it too obvious, but the unsaid requirement is that you have to be blonde. So nice, right? So nice.

That may be that sorority, or Greek life in the SEC, but there are all types of people at these schools. Even at Alabama, Greek life is only 36% and with so many kids from out of state, girls don’t have to deal with certain aspects of southern culture if they don’t want to.

Wrong

At Alabama you deal with the dumbest of dumb.

Sending a DD to the state that gave us Tommy Tubby is truly ridiculous.

Laws in Alabama if your daughter gets raped in campus oh so lovely.

This goes for Ok, MO, MS, and AK absolutely dumb decisions to send a daughter to one of theses states in our current political climate which Project 2025 is coming in fast DD will not he safe.

Not to mention how utterly dumb financial decision to send any kid zoOS to a red state at this point in time. Jobs will not be there.

Your last paragraph is factually incorrect.

For better or worse, and for reasons having little to do with politics, red state economies have been outperforming blue states in job growth and income growth.

Probably going to continue due to climate, COL, tax and regulatory burdens, etc.

Do you really think so? I think due to climate change a lot of red states will become unliveable due to heat.

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The only lookism demonstrated in this thread are from the people stereotyping and denigrating pretty girls, southerners, and ironically, blondes.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She needs to go to college in a major city. LA, Boston, NY.

All the girls at the SEC schools we toured seemed really, really happy, even the ones that dod not look like a stereotypical 'Bama sorority rush poster.

If she liked the southern university, let her apply and see what happens. She might meet some really kind, happy, interesting friends at those places.

That's because in the south girls are taught to smile constantly, no matter how happy or unhappy. As I was.

No.

They were all just nice kids.

What a naive response. At the SEC school where my daughter attends, she said there are sororities which will recruit only blondes. Of course they have to take in the occasional brunette here and there so not to make it too obvious, but the unsaid requirement is that you have to be blonde. So nice, right? So nice.

That may be that sorority, or Greek life in the SEC, but there are all types of people at these schools. Even at Alabama, Greek life is only 36% and with so many kids from out of state, girls don’t have to deal with certain aspects of southern culture if they don’t want to.

Wrong

At Alabama you deal with the dumbest of dumb.

Sending a DD to the state that gave us Tommy Tubby is truly ridiculous.

Laws in Alabama if your daughter gets raped in campus oh so lovely.

This goes for Ok, MO, MS, and AK absolutely dumb decisions to send a daughter to one of theses states in our current political climate which Project 2025 is coming in fast DD will not he safe.

Not to mention how utterly dumb financial decision to send any kid zoOS to a red state at this point in time. Jobs will not be there.

Your last paragraph is factually incorrect.

For better or worse, and for reasons having little to do with politics, red state economies have been outperforming blue states in job growth and income growth.

Probably going to continue due to climate, COL, tax and regulatory burdens, etc.

Do you really think so? I think due to climate change a lot of red states will become unliveable due to heat.

Using NASA data, Asian researchers have discovered that the polar ice caps have actually grown over the past 3 years, fyi. The tides appear to be turning on that one.