Is UVA's reputation declining?

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Anonymous wrote:It’s frustrating that a small number (one?) of trolls can start and prolong asinine threads like this. I can’t imagine that anyone who has been reading this board over the last week is now convinced by these trolls that UVA is a pedestrian has-been or never-was. Multiple threads contain clear posts explaining that this is, obviously, far from true. Enough already.

It makes you wonder about the mental and emotional well being of some of the people here.

You could question that rather than consider maybe there is some truth in what they are saying. Up to you.

What truth? Most of the claims are just snark without substance. And I’ve seen troll posts just on this thread get deleted twice now. Hardly normal, well-adjusted behavior.

It is true that peer institutions, large public flagships, have improved relative to UVA and that the relative college landscape is a lot more competitive than it was previously. Colleges like U of Florida are now considered peers to UVA.

Florida is not a peer to UVA.

UVA is in a three way tie at #24 so it is ranked #24-26 while U of Florida is ranked #30. According to USNews.


They are absolutely peers and could switch places next year.

UVA is not really top 25 currently because of the tie, it falls somewhere below #27 and above #23 according to US News. Being ranked #24 along with multiple other schools is bogus.

This might win the award for dumbest comment yet.

Why is that exactly?

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Anonymous wrote:It’s frustrating that a small number (one?) of trolls can start and prolong asinine threads like this. I can’t imagine that anyone who has been reading this board over the last week is now convinced by these trolls that UVA is a pedestrian has-been or never-was. Multiple threads contain clear posts explaining that this is, obviously, far from true. Enough already.

It makes you wonder about the mental and emotional well being of some of the people here.

You could question that rather than consider maybe there is some truth in what they are saying. Up to you.

What truth? Most of the claims are just snark without substance. And I’ve seen troll posts just on this thread get deleted twice now. Hardly normal, well-adjusted behavior.

It is true that peer institutions, large public flagships, have improved relative to UVA and that the relative college landscape is a lot more competitive than it was previously. Colleges like U of Florida are now considered peers to UVA.

Florida is not a peer to UVA.

UVA is in a three way tie at #24 so it is ranked #24-26 while U of Florida is ranked #30. According to USNews.


They are absolutely peers and could switch places next year.

UVA is not really top 25 currently because of the tie, it falls somewhere below #27 and above #23 according to US News. Being ranked #24 along with multiple other schools is bogus.

This might win the award for dumbest comment yet.

Why is that exactly?

Because if you tie for a score inside the top 25 you are top 25. The school after a three way tie a 24 is not top 25. That’s how a ranking system works. If you tie for first with the exact same time at the Olympics you get a gold medal, you don’t say clearly one of them did not win or didn’t deserve it.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid went to Arizona State University over UVA. Said UVA is primarily Virginia residents and being from Virginia, wanted to escape.

This sounds smart, ASU is on the rise.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s frustrating that a small number (one?) of trolls can start and prolong asinine threads like this. I can’t imagine that anyone who has been reading this board over the last week is now convinced by these trolls that UVA is a pedestrian has-been or never-was. Multiple threads contain clear posts explaining that this is, obviously, far from true. Enough already.

It makes you wonder about the mental and emotional well being of some of the people here.

You could question that rather than consider maybe there is some truth in what they are saying. Up to you.

What truth? Most of the claims are just snark without substance. And I’ve seen troll posts just on this thread get deleted twice now. Hardly normal, well-adjusted behavior.

It is true that peer institutions, large public flagships, have improved relative to UVA and that the relative college landscape is a lot more competitive than it was previously. Colleges like U of Florida are now considered peers to UVA.

Florida is not a peer to UVA.

UVA is in a three way tie at #24 so it is ranked #24-26 while U of Florida is ranked #30. According to USNews.


They are absolutely peers and could switch places next year.

UVA is not really top 25 currently because of the tie, it falls somewhere below #27 and above #23 according to US News. Being ranked #24 along with multiple other schools is bogus.

This might win the award for dumbest comment yet.

Why is that exactly?

Because if you tie for a score inside the top 25 you are top 25. The school after a three way tie a 24 is not top 25. That’s how a ranking system works. If you tie for first with the exact same time at the Olympics you get a gold medal, you don’t say clearly one of them did not win or didn’t deserve it.

UVA is top 30 but not top 25. Olympics has nothing to do with it.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s frustrating that a small number (one?) of trolls can start and prolong asinine threads like this. I can’t imagine that anyone who has been reading this board over the last week is now convinced by these trolls that UVA is a pedestrian has-been or never-was. Multiple threads contain clear posts explaining that this is, obviously, far from true. Enough already.

It makes you wonder about the mental and emotional well being of some of the people here.

You could question that rather than consider maybe there is some truth in what they are saying. Up to you.

What truth? Most of the claims are just snark without substance. And I’ve seen troll posts just on this thread get deleted twice now. Hardly normal, well-adjusted behavior.

It is true that peer institutions, large public flagships, have improved relative to UVA and that the relative college landscape is a lot more competitive than it was previously. Colleges like U of Florida are now considered peers to UVA.

Florida is not a peer to UVA.

UVA is in a three way tie at #24 so it is ranked #24-26 while U of Florida is ranked #30. According to USNews.


They are absolutely peers and could switch places next year.

UVA is not really top 25 currently because of the tie, it falls somewhere below #27 and above #23 according to US News. Being ranked #24 along with multiple other schools is bogus.

This might win the award for dumbest comment yet.

Why is that exactly?

Because if you tie for a score inside the top 25 you are top 25. The school after a three way tie a 24 is not top 25. That’s how a ranking system works. If you tie for first with the exact same time at the Olympics you get a gold medal, you don’t say clearly one of them did not win or didn’t deserve it.

UVA is top 30 but not top 25. Olympics has nothing to do with it.

Great point. You really convinced me.

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The only people that care are UVA alumni and the trolls marking them easy prey.

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UVA alum here, and I don’t think its reputation has declined.

What has changed is that those who can afford out of state are not prioritizing UVA attendance or have just stepped out of the race. They aren’t stressing themselves out when a perfectly reasonable OOS flagship will still get their kid where they want to go, and with a more fun high school experience. It’s not fair that college costs are so high, but that is what I see at DS’s high school.

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Anonymous wrote:I also think this is no longer a DMV board: the oos folks do not esteem UVA the same way, especially for the price (nor do their kids, as UVA’s poor oos yield demonstrates).

This is not true. Most of UVA’s applications and application growth is from OOS. If people OOS didn’t esteem a UVA education, those statistics wouldn’t be what they are. As for yield, OOS is lower for obvious reasons - higher tuition and higher admission standards than instate, meaning that those who are accepted have other good options. But, this is nothing new. I’m sure that Michigan’s OOS yield is lower than its instate yield.

UVA yield oos is inconsistent with UVA being a prestigious school. Period. Michigan has higher oos yield. You sound like you are from Virginia. You Virginians’ outsized sense of UVA’s prestige bemuses those of us not from “southern” states.

It’s a T30 school. It’s currently the #4 public school in the US. In what world is that not prestigious?

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Anonymous wrote:I also think this is no longer a DMV board: the oos folks do not esteem UVA the same way, especially for the price (nor do their kids, as UVA’s poor oos yield demonstrates).

This is not true. Most of UVA’s applications and application growth is from OOS. If people OOS didn’t esteem a UVA education, those statistics wouldn’t be what they are. As for yield, OOS is lower for obvious reasons - higher tuition and higher admission standards than instate, meaning that those who are accepted have other good options. But, this is nothing new. I’m sure that Michigan’s OOS yield is lower than its instate yield.

UVA yield oos is inconsistent with UVA being a prestigious school. Period. Michigan has higher oos yield. You sound like you are from Virginia. You Virginians’ outsized sense of UVA’s prestige bemuses those of us not from “southern” states.

It’s a T30 school. It’s currently the #4 public school in the US. In what world is that not prestigious?

Prestige is in the beholder's eye. I don't think T30 is some magic cutoff. I doubt many, certainly around these parts, would consider, say, the #27T U. of Southern Calif. to be prestigious. Yet many would view the likes of #33 Ga. Tech, #37T Tufts, and #41T Boston U. as such.

More on the topic, Virginia's reputation isn't declining by any stretch. If anything, as I believe a PP noted, it's stayed remarkably consistent over the decades.

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Directly comparing UVA and Michigan acceptance and yield rates have a contextual problem. In Michigan, UMich is the only excellent public school, thus it attracts all the state’s brightest students wanting a public education. In VA, the brightest instate students who want to attend a state public are divided between UVA, W&M, and in the case of engineering/CS, Virginia Tech. Given that context, VA splits their instate applications, admits, and yield; Michigan does not. Similarly, if OOS students want to attend an elite VA public, the applications, admits, and yields are split between UVA and W&M. That’s not the case for Michigan. All are great schools.

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Anonymous wrote:UVA and UMD are solid peers and this idea that UVA was ever an elite institution is laughable. It has no declined, it is exactly what it always has been.

UVA is the Rutgers of Virginia.

I'm just waiting for the UGA poster to start saying UVA and UGA are the same level in this thread. Popcorn.

Not that poster but we went on a UVA tour and was so turned off by its odd political stance, we left and didn’t apply. Child attending UGA this fall.

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I think uva has risen in prestige at least since I was in school in the 90s. That being said, so have a lot of publics like Michigan and UNC. UVA doesn’t outshine them.

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The dream job for UVA CS grads is to work for Capitol One.

Enough said.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s frustrating that a small number (one?) of trolls can start and prolong asinine threads like this. I can’t imagine that anyone who has been reading this board over the last week is now convinced by these trolls that UVA is a pedestrian has-been or never-was. Multiple threads contain clear posts explaining that this is, obviously, far from true. Enough already.

It makes you wonder about the mental and emotional well being of some of the people here.

You could question that rather than consider maybe there is some truth in what they are saying. Up to you.

What truth? Most of the claims are just snark without substance. And I’ve seen troll posts just on this thread get deleted twice now. Hardly normal, well-adjusted behavior.

It is true that peer institutions, large public flagships, have improved relative to UVA and that the relative college landscape is a lot more competitive than it was previously. Colleges like U of Florida are now considered peers to UVA.

Florida is not a peer to UVA.

UVA is in a three way tie at #24 so it is ranked #24-26 while U of Florida is ranked #30. According to USNews.


They are absolutely peers and could switch places next year.

UVA is not really top 25 currently because of the tie, it falls somewhere below #27 and above #23 according to US News. Being ranked #24 along with multiple other schools is bogus.

This might win the award for dumbest comment yet.

Why is that exactly?

Because if you tie for a score inside the top 25 you are top 25. The school after a three way tie a 24 is not top 25. That’s how a ranking system works. If you tie for first with the exact same time at the Olympics you get a gold medal, you don’t say clearly one of them did not win or didn’t deserve it.

+1. This thread has descended into such stupidity because of the trolls that they now are struggling to understand how a tie works.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s frustrating that a small number (one?) of trolls can start and prolong asinine threads like this. I can’t imagine that anyone who has been reading this board over the last week is now convinced by these trolls that UVA is a pedestrian has-been or never-was. Multiple threads contain clear posts explaining that this is, obviously, far from true. Enough already.

It makes you wonder about the mental and emotional well being of some of the people here.

You could question that rather than consider maybe there is some truth in what they are saying. Up to you.

What truth? Most of the claims are just snark without substance. And I’ve seen troll posts just on this thread get deleted twice now. Hardly normal, well-adjusted behavior.

It is true that peer institutions, large public flagships, have improved relative to UVA and that the relative college landscape is a lot more competitive than it was previously. Colleges like U of Florida are now considered peers to UVA.

Florida is not a peer to UVA.

UVA is in a three way tie at #24 so it is ranked #24-26 while U of Florida is ranked #30. According to USNews.


They are absolutely peers and could switch places next year.

UVA is not really top 25 currently because of the tie, it falls somewhere below #27 and above #23 according to US News. Being ranked #24 along with multiple other schools is bogus.

I concur with this. For those who consider U.S. News rankings, I'd say that U.Va. places among the top 26 in its category.