Anyone get telework approved at SEC?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t worry — the rockstar union is solving the problem. Trust the plan.

(Haven’t heard a THING from the union in awhile, so I guess they’re working hard.).

You must not be a member. I’ve heard plenty.

+1. Funny because the union literally e-mailed us yesterday! Love how these non dues paying people like to complain.

In the unlikely event PP is a dues paying member they should e-mail Greg their home e-mail address and also make sure their e-mail address is current in the NTEU system as there are two sets of e-mails that get sent out.

Did you give any update on the grievance, timing, etc? And before you complain about me being a freeloader, I’m NBU, so have no choice in the matter.

Actually you do have a choice. Membership is voluntary. Just because you are BU doesn’t mean you are a member. Maybe that’s where the disconnect is for you.

They said they were NBU.

But, if you are NBU that means your job is, at least in part, to further the positions of management vs. the BU. Considering, the tone of your posts makes a lot more sense.

That’s ridiculous to make that distinction. Almost everyone in the agency’s job is to further the positions of management. Are ENF folks taking the same positions on crypto they were six months ago?

And are you saying someone in HR, for example, should be scorned because they are implementing new management positions on RTO, for example?

Chill out for Pete’s sake. No one is saying anyone should be “scorned.” What is with your scorched earth responses?

If you are designated as NBU, you could come into a situation where you are advocating for the position of management or assisting in advocating for the position of management (or know about the position of management) and not for the BU, aka the Union. That is why you are not allowed to be part of the BU and represented by the Union, to avoid a conflict of interest. If you don’t know specifically why you are NBU but want to be BU, ask your manager as they should be able to explain it to you. If they don’t know, ask to be reclassified.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t worry — the rockstar union is solving the problem. Trust the plan.

(Haven’t heard a THING from the union in awhile, so I guess they’re working hard.).

You must not be a member. I’ve heard plenty.

+1. Funny because the union literally e-mailed us yesterday! Love how these non dues paying people like to complain.

In the unlikely event PP is a dues paying member they should e-mail Greg their home e-mail address and also make sure their e-mail address is current in the NTEU system as there are two sets of e-mails that get sent out.

Did you give any update on the grievance, timing, etc? And before you complain about me being a freeloader, I’m NBU, so have no choice in the matter.

Actually you do have a choice. Membership is voluntary. Just because you are BU doesn’t mean you are a member. Maybe that’s where the disconnect is for you.

They said they were NBU.

But, if you are NBU that means your job is, at least in part, to further the positions of management vs. the BU. Considering, the tone of your posts makes a lot more sense.

That’s ridiculous to make that distinction. Almost everyone in the agency’s job is to further the positions of management. Are ENF folks taking the same positions on crypto they were six months ago?

And are you saying someone in HR, for example, should be scorned because they are implementing new management positions on RTO, for example?

Chill out for Pete’s sake. No one is saying anyone should be “scorned.” What is with your scorched earth responses?

If you are designated as NBU, you could come into a situation where you are advocating for the position of management or assisting in advocating for the position of management (or know about the position of management) and not for the BU, aka the Union. That is why you are not allowed to be part of the BU and represented by the Union, to avoid a conflict of interest. If you don’t know specifically why you are NBU but want to be BU, ask your manager as they should be able to explain it to you. If they don’t know, ask to be reclassified.

+1. A good manager, if possible, may remove your NBU duties and allow you to be reclassified. However, I can tell you that recently the person doing reclassifications was flooded with requests and said no to everyone.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Don’t worry — the rockstar union is solving the problem. Trust the plan.

(Haven’t heard a THING from the union in awhile, so I guess they’re working hard.).

You must not be a member. I’ve heard plenty.

+1. Funny because the union literally e-mailed us yesterday! Love how these non dues paying people like to complain.

In the unlikely event PP is a dues paying member they should e-mail Greg their home e-mail address and also make sure their e-mail address is current in the NTEU system as there are two sets of e-mails that get sent out.

Did you give any update on the grievance, timing, etc? And before you complain about me being a freeloader, I’m NBU, so have no choice in the matter.

Actually you do have a choice. Membership is voluntary. Just because you are BU doesn’t mean you are a member. Maybe that’s where the disconnect is for you.

They said they were NBU.

But, if you are NBU that means your job is, at least in part, to further the positions of management vs. the BU. Considering, the tone of your posts makes a lot more sense.

That’s ridiculous to make that distinction. Almost everyone in the agency’s job is to further the positions of management. Are ENF folks taking the same positions on crypto they were six months ago?

And are you saying someone in HR, for example, should be scorned because they are implementing new management positions on RTO, for example?

Chill out for Pete’s sake. No one is saying anyone should be “scorned.” What is with your scorched earth responses?

If you are designated as NBU, you could come into a situation where you are advocating for the position of management or assisting in advocating for the position of management (or know about the position of management) and not for the BU, aka the Union. That is why you are not allowed to be part of the BU and represented by the Union, to avoid a conflict of interest. If you don’t know specifically why you are NBU but want to be BU, ask your manager as they should be able to explain it to you. If they don’t know, ask to be reclassified.

Please. The prior (your?) post I was referring to was saying that someone who was NBU was doing the will of management, implicitly contrasting it with BU employees who purportedly (and absurdly) are not doing management’s bidding. And there was even some snide comment about tone.

And thanks for the explanation of why someone might be NBU, but there was no confusion requiring it.

[Anonymous]

Mark is THE WORST.
WTF with his dumb email. 1. He referenced this being an adjustment from COVId times which is completely inaccurate - we have been teleworking for two decades. 2. He said nothing to acknowledge that this may be difficult for people.
He sucks. When is he leaving.
And I’m tired of him talking about himself. No one cares.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Don’t worry — the rockstar union is solving the problem. Trust the plan.

(Haven’t heard a THING from the union in awhile, so I guess they’re working hard.).

You must not be a member. I’ve heard plenty.

+1. Funny because the union literally e-mailed us yesterday! Love how these non dues paying people like to complain.

In the unlikely event PP is a dues paying member they should e-mail Greg their home e-mail address and also make sure their e-mail address is current in the NTEU system as there are two sets of e-mails that get sent out.

Did you give any update on the grievance, timing, etc? And before you complain about me being a freeloader, I’m NBU, so have no choice in the matter.

Actually you do have a choice. Membership is voluntary. Just because you are BU doesn’t mean you are a member. Maybe that’s where the disconnect is for you.

They said they were NBU.

But, if you are NBU that means your job is, at least in part, to further the positions of management vs. the BU. Considering, the tone of your posts makes a lot more sense.

That’s ridiculous to make that distinction. Almost everyone in the agency’s job is to further the positions of management. Are ENF folks taking the same positions on crypto they were six months ago?

And are you saying someone in HR, for example, should be scorned because they are implementing new management positions on RTO, for example?

Chill out for Pete’s sake. No one is saying anyone should be “scorned.” What is with your scorched earth responses?

If you are designated as NBU, you could come into a situation where you are advocating for the position of management or assisting in advocating for the position of management (or know about the position of management) and not for the BU, aka the Union. That is why you are not allowed to be part of the BU and represented by the Union, to avoid a conflict of interest. If you don’t know specifically why you are NBU but want to be BU, ask your manager as they should be able to explain it to you. If they don’t know, ask to be reclassified.

Please. The prior (your?) post I was referring to was saying that someone who was NBU was doing the will of management, implicitly contrasting it with BU employees who purportedly (and absurdly) are not doing management’s bidding. And there was even some snide comment about tone.

And thanks for the explanation of why someone might be NBU, but there was no confusion requiring it.

NP here. There is a distinction between what you said and the point of the PP. One is talking about the ability to be a member of the union according to job function and you are talking about just doing your job. Two different concepts that you seem to be meshing together. And your tone is terrible, for what it’s worth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Mark is THE WORST.
WTF with his dumb email. 1. He referenced this being an adjustment from COVId times which is completely inaccurate - we have been teleworking for two decades. 2. He said nothing to acknowledge that this may be difficult for people.
He sucks. When is he leaving.
And I’m tired of him talking about himself. No one cares.

He was in IM as a manager so he knew people teleworked before COVID. Did anyone other than him bother to read the email before he hit send?! Agency did records amounts of rulemaking during Gensler. I understand Mark didn’t like that rulemaking but we were productive. It was insulting to tell me — a person now getting less sleep and more stress — that I will be MORE PRODUCTIVE.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mark is THE WORST.
WTF with his dumb email. 1. He referenced this being an adjustment from COVId times which is completely inaccurate - we have been teleworking for two decades. 2. He said nothing to acknowledge that this may be difficult for people.
He sucks. When is he leaving.
And I’m tired of him talking about himself. No one cares.

He was in IM as a manager so he knew people teleworked before COVID. Did anyone other than him bother to read the email before he hit send?! Agency did records amounts of rulemaking during Gensler. I understand Mark didn’t like that rulemaking but we were productive. It was insulting to tell me — a person now getting less sleep and more stress — that I will be MORE PRODUCTIVE.

lol. You actually think he wrote it (or even saw it)? I bet his handlers wrote it, no doubt using AI (and we all know who they are), just like all emails purportedly from “mgmt” these days.

[Anonymous]

He has “handlers”?
I think he wrote it.
I really hope they offer some type of departure - Vera, DRP or something - after the budget is finalized in September.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He has “handlers”?
I think he wrote it.
I really hope they offer some type of departure - Vera, DRP or something - after the budget is finalized in September.

+1. Keeping this job is not worth RTO.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He has “handlers”?
I think he wrote it.
I really hope they offer some type of departure - Vera, DRP or something - after the budget is finalized in September.

+1. Keeping this job is not worth RTO.

Was the first week that traumatizing?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He has “handlers”?
I think he wrote it.
I really hope they offer some type of departure - Vera, DRP or something - after the budget is finalized in September.

+1. Keeping this job is not worth RTO.

I expect there will be another round of VSIP/VERA offered in the next month or two.

[Anonymous]

How long do we expect this RTO to last? Make it until July? Is the consensus that the SEC union will win at arbitration?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How long do we expect this RTO to last? Make it until July? Is the consensus that the SEC union will win at arbitration?

Arbitration is just the beginning. Even if Union wins agency can appeal. Everyone goes in during appeal. We are talking years of process.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How long do we expect this RTO to last? Make it until July? Is the consensus that the SEC union will win at arbitration?

Arbitration is just the beginning. Even if Union wins agency can appeal. Everyone goes in during appeal. We are talking years of process.

I think we are back to the office for the duration. Doesn’t matter if the union wins or loses. Other agencies are losing their unions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He has “handlers”?
I think he wrote it.
I really hope they offer some type of departure - Vera, DRP or something - after the budget is finalized in September.

+1. Keeping this job is not worth RTO.

I expect there will be another round of VSIP/VERA offered in the next month or two.

Don't think so. Too many have left already