New Policy: APS school board adopts all-day ban on student phone use, makes one exception

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Anonymous wrote:Wonder what the anti cell phone contingent is going to blame next now that cell phones are gone.

Going to be interesting when they wake up and realize all the problems didn't go away.

All the problems - no. A lot of them? Yes. As a teacher this is the best school year I’ve had since probably 2018. It makes a HUGE difference.

You know there were cell phones in 2018 right?

Of course I do, idiot. But a) TikTok had only JUST come out so it wasn’t as prevalent as it is now and b) the pandemic hadn’t happened so the shift of “your life is in your phone” hadn’t occurred. In the 2010s, kids would still have their phones away most of class because they didn’t use them in the same way they do now. Earbuds were wired so they didn’t just walk around with music constantly being pumped into their head the way they do now with AirPods that never come out. The culture and usage were completely different. Having the phones in the pouch all class makes for more engaged students, not only with each other, but with me, the teacher. Their work is better, and they see that too. And you think we should give that up so you can be up their butt texting them 24/7? Insane.

the anti cell phone contingent needs to learn some online manners. no wonder you have a problem with your kids' online behavior. look in the mirror.

This is hilarious coming from cyberbullies who got called out for sockpuppeting.

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Anonymous wrote:Wonder what the anti cell phone contingent is going to blame next now that cell phones are gone.

Going to be interesting when they wake up and realize all the problems didn't go away.

All the problems - no. A lot of them? Yes. As a teacher this is the best school year I’ve had since probably 2018. It makes a HUGE difference.

You know there were cell phones in 2018 right?

Of course I do, idiot. But a) TikTok had only JUST come out so it wasn’t as prevalent as it is now and b) the pandemic hadn’t happened so the shift of “your life is in your phone” hadn’t occurred. In the 2010s, kids would still have their phones away most of class because they didn’t use them in the same way they do now. Earbuds were wired so they didn’t just walk around with music constantly being pumped into their head the way they do now with AirPods that never come out. The culture and usage were completely different. Having the phones in the pouch all class makes for more engaged students, not only with each other, but with me, the teacher. Their work is better, and they see that too. And you think we should give that up so you can be up their butt texting them 24/7? Insane.

the anti cell phone contingent needs to learn some online manners. no wonder you have a problem with your kids' online behavior. look in the mirror.

I have no problem with MY kids’ online behavior. My students’ online behavior and how it massively impacts their academic and emotional well being at school while they’re in my charge- yes. And I absolutely do not have to have “manners” with a poster who posts idiotic things like “you know there were phones in 2018 right?” You’re talking to a person who interacts with hundreds of teenagers every year and has seen the massive shift and impact of cell phone use across the last decade or so and you think because you need to text your 1-3 kids all day that you know more than I do about the impact of cell phone use on this generation. You don’t. And I won’t treat you as if you and I have equally valid perspectives on this topic.

Learn some manners and then we’ll talk. And no one believes you’re a teacher.

I actually don’t need to talk to you. The policy is what it is- you crying about it online won’t change it, and you’re on the wrong side of the debate. Your kids’ education and social well being is what matters most to me and this is what’s best for both of those things. You will be just fine if you have to wait for them to text you after school about whatever nonsense popped into your head. Your mom didn’t text you all day long at school.

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Anonymous wrote:Wonder what the anti cell phone contingent is going to blame next now that cell phones are gone.

Going to be interesting when they wake up and realize all the problems didn't go away.

All the problems - no. A lot of them? Yes. As a teacher this is the best school year I’ve had since probably 2018. It makes a HUGE difference.

You know there were cell phones in 2018 right?

Of course I do, idiot. But a) TikTok had only JUST come out so it wasn’t as prevalent as it is now and b) the pandemic hadn’t happened so the shift of “your life is in your phone” hadn’t occurred. In the 2010s, kids would still have their phones away most of class because they didn’t use them in the same way they do now. Earbuds were wired so they didn’t just walk around with music constantly being pumped into their head the way they do now with AirPods that never come out. The culture and usage were completely different. Having the phones in the pouch all class makes for more engaged students, not only with each other, but with me, the teacher. Their work is better, and they see that too. And you think we should give that up so you can be up their butt texting them 24/7? Insane.

the anti cell phone contingent needs to learn some online manners. no wonder you have a problem with your kids' online behavior. look in the mirror.

I have no problem with MY kids’ online behavior. My students’ online behavior and how it massively impacts their academic and emotional well being at school while they’re in my charge- yes. And I absolutely do not have to have “manners” with a poster who posts idiotic things like “you know there were phones in 2018 right?” You’re talking to a person who interacts with hundreds of teenagers every year and has seen the massive shift and impact of cell phone use across the last decade or so and you think because you need to text your 1-3 kids all day that you know more than I do about the impact of cell phone use on this generation. You don’t. And I won’t treat you as if you and I have equally valid perspectives on this topic.

Learn some manners and then we’ll talk. And no one believes you’re a teacher.

I actually don’t need to talk to you. The policy is what it is- you crying about it online won’t change it, and you’re on the wrong side of the debate. Your kids’ education and social well being is what matters most to me and this is what’s best for both of those things. You will be just fine if you have to wait for them to text you after school about whatever nonsense popped into your head. Your mom didn’t text you all day long at school.

I barely ever text my kids at school. If you think that’s what this is about, you’re clueless. You’re clueless if you think cell phones are your problem. This is a fad and it too will pass. What will you blame next?!?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wonder what the anti cell phone contingent is going to blame next now that cell phones are gone.

Going to be interesting when they wake up and realize all the problems didn't go away.

All the problems - no. A lot of them? Yes. As a teacher this is the best school year I’ve had since probably 2018. It makes a HUGE difference.

You know there were cell phones in 2018 right?

Of course I do, idiot. But a) TikTok had only JUST come out so it wasn’t as prevalent as it is now and b) the pandemic hadn’t happened so the shift of “your life is in your phone” hadn’t occurred. In the 2010s, kids would still have their phones away most of class because they didn’t use them in the same way they do now. Earbuds were wired so they didn’t just walk around with music constantly being pumped into their head the way they do now with AirPods that never come out. The culture and usage were completely different. Having the phones in the pouch all class makes for more engaged students, not only with each other, but with me, the teacher. Their work is better, and they see that too. And you think we should give that up so you can be up their butt texting them 24/7? Insane.

the anti cell phone contingent needs to learn some online manners. no wonder you have a problem with your kids' online behavior. look in the mirror.

I have no problem with MY kids’ online behavior. My students’ online behavior and how it massively impacts their academic and emotional well being at school while they’re in my charge- yes. And I absolutely do not have to have “manners” with a poster who posts idiotic things like “you know there were phones in 2018 right?” You’re talking to a person who interacts with hundreds of teenagers every year and has seen the massive shift and impact of cell phone use across the last decade or so and you think because you need to text your 1-3 kids all day that you know more than I do about the impact of cell phone use on this generation. You don’t. And I won’t treat you as if you and I have equally valid perspectives on this topic.

Learn some manners and then we’ll talk. And no one believes you’re a teacher.

I actually don’t need to talk to you. The policy is what it is- you crying about it online won’t change it, and you’re on the wrong side of the debate. Your kids’ education and social well being is what matters most to me and this is what’s best for both of those things. You will be just fine if you have to wait for them to text you after school about whatever nonsense popped into your head. Your mom didn’t text you all day long at school.

I barely ever text my kids at school. If you think that’s what this is about, you’re clueless. You’re clueless if you think cell phones are your problem. This is a fad and it too will pass. What will you blame next?!?

DP. You.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wonder what the anti cell phone contingent is going to blame next now that cell phones are gone.

Going to be interesting when they wake up and realize all the problems didn't go away.

All the problems - no. A lot of them? Yes. As a teacher this is the best school year I’ve had since probably 2018. It makes a HUGE difference.

You know there were cell phones in 2018 right?

Of course I do, idiot. But a) TikTok had only JUST come out so it wasn’t as prevalent as it is now and b) the pandemic hadn’t happened so the shift of “your life is in your phone” hadn’t occurred. In the 2010s, kids would still have their phones away most of class because they didn’t use them in the same way they do now. Earbuds were wired so they didn’t just walk around with music constantly being pumped into their head the way they do now with AirPods that never come out. The culture and usage were completely different. Having the phones in the pouch all class makes for more engaged students, not only with each other, but with me, the teacher. Their work is better, and they see that too. And you think we should give that up so you can be up their butt texting them 24/7? Insane.

the anti cell phone contingent needs to learn some online manners. no wonder you have a problem with your kids' online behavior. look in the mirror.

I have no problem with MY kids’ online behavior. My students’ online behavior and how it massively impacts their academic and emotional well being at school while they’re in my charge- yes. And I absolutely do not have to have “manners” with a poster who posts idiotic things like “you know there were phones in 2018 right?” You’re talking to a person who interacts with hundreds of teenagers every year and has seen the massive shift and impact of cell phone use across the last decade or so and you think because you need to text your 1-3 kids all day that you know more than I do about the impact of cell phone use on this generation. You don’t. And I won’t treat you as if you and I have equally valid perspectives on this topic.

Learn some manners and then we’ll talk. And no one believes you’re a teacher.

I actually don’t need to talk to you. The policy is what it is- you crying about it online won’t change it, and you’re on the wrong side of the debate. Your kids’ education and social well being is what matters most to me and this is what’s best for both of those things. You will be just fine if you have to wait for them to text you after school about whatever nonsense popped into your head. Your mom didn’t text you all day long at school.

I barely ever text my kids at school. If you think that’s what this is about, you’re clueless. You’re clueless if you think cell phones are your problem. This is a fad and it too will pass. What will you blame next?!?

No, see this is why not everyone has the range for this convo. Unless you have been in the classroom you REALLY do not understand how deleterious the presence of tech has been to all aspects of education. Honestly I’d be happy if er got rid of the 1:1 chromebooks and digital reading programs too. Way too much tech/app/screens, and phones are the worry of it. To pretend it’s a “fad” to notice this is nuts.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wonder what the anti cell phone contingent is going to blame next now that cell phones are gone.

Going to be interesting when they wake up and realize all the problems didn't go away.

All the problems - no. A lot of them? Yes. As a teacher this is the best school year I’ve had since probably 2018. It makes a HUGE difference.

You know there were cell phones in 2018 right?

Of course I do, idiot. But a) TikTok had only JUST come out so it wasn’t as prevalent as it is now and b) the pandemic hadn’t happened so the shift of “your life is in your phone” hadn’t occurred. In the 2010s, kids would still have their phones away most of class because they didn’t use them in the same way they do now. Earbuds were wired so they didn’t just walk around with music constantly being pumped into their head the way they do now with AirPods that never come out. The culture and usage were completely different. Having the phones in the pouch all class makes for more engaged students, not only with each other, but with me, the teacher. Their work is better, and they see that too. And you think we should give that up so you can be up their butt texting them 24/7? Insane.

the anti cell phone contingent needs to learn some online manners. no wonder you have a problem with your kids' online behavior. look in the mirror.

I have no problem with MY kids’ online behavior. My students’ online behavior and how it massively impacts their academic and emotional well being at school while they’re in my charge- yes. And I absolutely do not have to have “manners” with a poster who posts idiotic things like “you know there were phones in 2018 right?” You’re talking to a person who interacts with hundreds of teenagers every year and has seen the massive shift and impact of cell phone use across the last decade or so and you think because you need to text your 1-3 kids all day that you know more than I do about the impact of cell phone use on this generation. You don’t. And I won’t treat you as if you and I have equally valid perspectives on this topic.

Learn some manners and then we’ll talk. And no one believes you’re a teacher.

I actually don’t need to talk to you. The policy is what it is- you crying about it online won’t change it, and you’re on the wrong side of the debate. Your kids’ education and social well being is what matters most to me and this is what’s best for both of those things. You will be just fine if you have to wait for them to text you after school about whatever nonsense popped into your head. Your mom didn’t text you all day long at school.

I barely ever text my kids at school. If you think that’s what this is about, you’re clueless. You’re clueless if you think cell phones are your problem. This is a fad and it too will pass. What will you blame next?!?

No, see this is why not everyone has the range for this convo. Unless you have been in the classroom you REALLY do not understand how deleterious the presence of tech has been to all aspects of education. Honestly I’d be happy if er got rid of the 1:1 chromebooks and digital reading programs too. Way too much tech/app/screens, and phones are the worry of it. To pretend it’s a “fad” to notice this is nuts.

The hyper focus on phones is a fad. Phones aren't the problem. I do agree with you that there is too much school issued tech. But why not the focus on that instead of phones?

[Anonymous]

Word on the street as kids are finding old phones around the house and plan to give those up in the morning while keeping their real phone on their person.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Word on the street as kids are finding old phones around the house and plan to give those up in the morning while keeping their real phone on their person.

Yeah. They do this but they keep the real phone hidden because they know it goes in pouch if they get caught. Either way the pouches are working to limit phone use.

[Anonymous]

The pouches are just to placate a few loud irrational parents who need to spend less time on social media and more time with their children.

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Anonymous wrote:Word on the street as kids are finding old phones around the house and plan to give those up in the morning while keeping their real phone on their person.

Yeah. They do this but they keep the real phone hidden because they know it goes in pouch if they get caught. Either way the pouches are working to limit phone use.

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Anonymous wrote:Word on the street as kids are finding old phones around the house and plan to give those up in the morning while keeping their real phone on their person.

I’m the high school teacher who posted toward the end of last page. I have had a couple kids do this- one kid it was obvious because the phone was so old and busted it was clear that it hadn’t worked since about 2013. I took it and told him to put his real phone in there and never gave the dummy back - I still have it. He’s never been an issue with his phone since.

Another kid did it once and I figured it out because at the end of class when there’s 2 minutes til the bell and I let them get their phones, he had one in his hand while a phone was still in his numbered pouch. But a) this means he still kept his real phone away all class which is the goal and b) now I have seen them both and know which one is real and which is fake (they are different colors which is idiotic but these kids aren’t that savvy) so I know which one to make sure he puts in the pouch now.

The kids who tried to just put the case in realized the first couple days I wasn’t stupid enough for that to work. I have 100% compliance in my class. Admin even did surprise spot checks the week before break and I had 100% of the phones of the kids who were present in their pouches. It isn’t hard to make this work with consistency and basic classroom management. Most of the times when I walk over after the bell to do the phone check, all the kids already have them in the pouch because they just know it’s the expectation in my room and they WILL be called up by name to put theirs in if I don’t see a phone in the pouch matching their desk number.

[Anonymous]

^ oh, and just to add, MY phone also goes in the pouch each day. I check it between classes just like they do to make sure my kids’ school hasn’t called, there hasn’t been an emergency, etc. My husband knows if he texts me he will not get a response until the class changeover. It is completely humane to ask the same of the kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^ oh, and just to add, MY phone also goes in the pouch each day. I check it between classes just like they do to make sure my kids’ school hasn’t called, there hasn’t been an emergency, etc. My husband knows if he texts me he will not get a response until the class changeover. It is completely humane to ask the same of the kids.

Yeah but APS just banned phones all day including in between classes. So does this mean you are also ok going all day without checking just like the kids?

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Anonymous wrote:^ oh, and just to add, MY phone also goes in the pouch each day. I check it between classes just like they do to make sure my kids’ school hasn’t called, there hasn’t been an emergency, etc. My husband knows if he texts me he will not get a response until the class changeover. It is completely humane to ask the same of the kids.

Yeah but APS just banned phones all day including in between classes. So does this mean you are also ok going all day without checking just like the kids?

Sure. I’m simply telling you what I’ve been doing with the current policy. If it’s no phone all day, that’s fine. My husband and my kids’ school have the front office number - if something truly emergent happened, they’d call the front office who would call my room, and I’d go deal with it. Same as your kids will.

[Anonymous]

To the high school teacher above…THANK YOU!