Video of hallway brawls at Whitman

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can hardly even believe that stuff like this is happening in schools in the US. Those thugs should be in prison.

Voters in this state do not prefer to put juveniles in prison. There is a strong political sentiment that opposed a school to prison pipeline. We do whatever we can to keep juveniles out of prison and keep them in schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can hardly even believe that stuff like this is happening in schools in the US. Those thugs should be in prison.

Voters in this state do not prefer to put juveniles in prison. There is a strong political sentiment that opposed a school to prison pipeline. We do whatever we can to keep juveniles out of prison and keep them in schools.

Schools somehow ended up with the prison blame. I think the suspensions leading to prison is a correlation not a causation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can hardly even believe that stuff like this is happening in schools in the US. Those thugs should be in prison.

Voters in this state do not prefer to put juveniles in prison. There is a strong political sentiment that opposed a school to prison pipeline. We do whatever we can to keep juveniles out of prison and keep them in schools.

Schools somehow ended up with the prison blame. I think the suspensions leading to prison is a correlation not a causation.

I agree. Suspensions are an indication you're heading down the wrong path, not the cause of you getting onto the wrong path.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can hardly even believe that stuff like this is happening in schools in the US. Those thugs should be in prison.

Voters in this state do not prefer to put juveniles in prison. There is a strong political sentiment that opposed a school to prison pipeline. We do whatever we can to keep juveniles out of prison and keep them in schools.

They can go to school in juvenile detention. If their behavior is that bad let’s be real, they are getting nothing out of school. They need treatment and an education in a more supportive environment that a large public cannot provide.

[Anonymous]

Finally got picked up by MoCo 360: https://moco360.media/2024/11/21/fight-walt-whitman-posted-to-social-media/

[Anonymous]

In an email to MoCo360, county police spokesperson Shiera Goff said officers were dispatched to the school, but the situation was deescalated before community engagement officers arrived.

According to a memorandum of understanding between police and Montgomery County Public Schools (MCPS), “this is not considered a criminal matter—it was simply a fight,” Goff said. “Any disciplinary action will be handled by MCPS.”

Who gets to determine that this is not a criminal matter and that what happened wasn't assault? What if the parents of the child attacked feel differently? Let me guess: The principal gets to determine whether this was a fight vs. an assault?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

In an email to MoCo360, county police spokesperson Shiera Goff said officers were dispatched to the school, but the situation was deescalated before community engagement officers arrived.

According to a memorandum of understanding between police and Montgomery County Public Schools (MCPS), “this is not considered a criminal matter—it was simply a fight,” Goff said. “Any disciplinary action will be handled by MCPS.”

Who gets to determine that this is not a criminal matter and that what happened wasn't assault? What if the parents of the child attacked feel differently? Let me guess: The principal gets to determine whether this was a fight vs. an assault?

I have the same question. If my daughter is randomly attacked, can it be dismissed as “simply” a fight if she did nothing to provoke it? Or is fight used in a conventional sense of it takes two to tango? But then what if someone escalates it far beyond the other? Or what if one kid said something provocative but didn’t do anything physical and is then beaten?

Also isn’t the punishment likely more severe for recording and sharing? Only if you share? I get the reasoning if you’re *instigating* on social media. But what if you’re highlighting a problem in the schools? Are they trying to deter bad publicity with a threat of punishment for sharing? Or is just instigating the issue?

Is the MOU a public document? Link?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

In an email to MoCo360, county police spokesperson Shiera Goff said officers were dispatched to the school, but the situation was deescalated before community engagement officers arrived.

According to a memorandum of understanding between police and Montgomery County Public Schools (MCPS), “this is not considered a criminal matter—it was simply a fight,” Goff said. “Any disciplinary action will be handled by MCPS.”

Who gets to determine that this is not a criminal matter and that what happened wasn't assault? What if the parents of the child attacked feel differently? Let me guess: The principal gets to determine whether this was a fight vs. an assault?

I have the same question. If my daughter is randomly attacked, can it be dismissed as “simply” a fight if she did nothing to provoke it? Or is fight used in a conventional sense of it takes two to tango? But then what if someone escalates it far beyond the other? Or what if one kid said something provocative but didn’t do anything physical and is then beaten?

Also isn’t the punishment likely more severe for recording and sharing? Only if you share? I get the reasoning if you’re *instigating* on social media. But what if you’re highlighting a problem in the schools? Are they trying to deter bad publicity with a threat of punishment for sharing? Or is just instigating the issue?

Is the MOU a public document? Link?

Yes. Principals hate when kids expose the chaos that's happening in schools so they go harder on trying to punish bystanders for recording than they do for the students who are involved in the fighting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let’s see if this happening at a W school gets their attention on curbing violence at schools seriously.

Doubt it, however this clearly looked like an assault. If I were the victim's parents, I would call the cops and press charges. Heck I might even call the local news.

My kid has been jumped at school and he doesn't tell anyone. Many kids don't. Makes them look weak and could make them a continued target.

Why in the world would you continue to send your child there? What is wrong with you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's happening in every MS and HS in the county. And, because there are no consequences, it wont stop (because consequences leads to higher number of consequences for black and brown students, and we can't have that, so Iinstead, no consequences for anyone).

It’s not happening at private or Catholic schools.

[Anonymous]

The boy who was attacked- he was a resident there as well? If so, there will be no parental outrage or petition for justice - we all need to advocate for him - the boy was attacked by a group and had his head stomped

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's happening in every MS and HS in the county. And, because there are no consequences, it wont stop (because consequences leads to higher number of consequences for black and brown students, and we can't have that, so Iinstead, no consequences for anyone).

It’s not happening at private or Catholic schools.

Yes, it is, its kept more hidden.

[Anonymous]

Were police called? Boys arrested? Is the victim ok?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's happening in every MS and HS in the county. And, because there are no consequences, it wont stop (because consequences leads to higher number of consequences for black and brown students, and we can't have that, so Iinstead, no consequences for anyone).

It’s not happening at private or Catholic schools.

Yes, it is, its kept more hidden.

No, nothing at this level.

[Anonymous]

Charges need to filed- this was no playground scuffle