Impact of McLean/Langley boundary change on McLean real estate choice

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Anonymous wrote:The issue can be easily resolved by: 1) Limit Cooper MS to only Langley residents. That will reduce capacity at Langley HS; 2) Make McLean HS into a secondary school for only McLean residents. It means Franklin Sherman & Kent Gardens ES go to McLean secondary school. Give Longfellow MS back to Falls Church; 3) Create an AAP center at either Franklin Sherman or Kent Garden (I think there is an AAP at Churchill). That will reduce the capacity at McLean HS, but Falls Church parents will cry foul because that will bring down their property values, LOL.

Longfellow is located in McLean. It has never been part of Falls Church City. (same for Haycock, which you seemed to have missed in your proposal).



https://data.census.gov/profile?q=McLean%20CDP

Longfellow and Haycock are both in the 22043 zip code which is Falls Church outside of FCC. This part of 22043 does pay into the McLean tax district, though.

They are part of the McLean tax district because they are part of McLean. The Post Office does not determine school districts. There are people with Arlington postal zip codes that live in Fairfax county and there are people with Fairfax County zip codes that live in Arlington. Their children go to schools based on where they live not their postal code. There are even a few whose property splits between Arlington and Fairfax counties and they get to choose between the two school districts.

PP and I agree with you. There’s a poster fixated on kicking any Falls Church address off to Falls Church High School to torpedo their property values, even though 22043 is split between McLean and Marshall.

DP. The way they set the boundary policy, timberlane attendance island is going to be going to a different school.

Not necessarily. They could move the Spring Hill attendance island to Langley and leave the Timber Lane island at McLean. The island is closer to Falls Church and Marshall than McLean, but it’s also probably closer to Longfellow than it is Kilmer or Jackson, and it exists in part due to the geography of Falls Church City.

That keeps the Timber Lane diversity at McLean but still provides a justification, should they be so inclined, to move Forestville to Herndon.

Not saying this will or should happen, but it’s certainly a possibility.

Timber Lane is 22046, and a different story. As a split feeder (with FCHS) and an attendance island, it’s doubtful it’ll stay at McLean. In my mind, the most likely scenario is the entire school goes to Falls Church High School. Next would be to send it to Marshall depending on how Marshall and McLean divy their split feeders. Last would be to keep it at McLean.

Agree. I think attendance islands are undesirable, but if the island isn't too far removed from the main boundary area it's not the end of the world, but clearly they want to reduce these. My impression is that split feeders, especially at the MS->HS level, are seen as an even bigger issue because of the importance of social relationships for students and wanting to avoid divided communities within a school. Since Timber Lane has the double whammy of both these concerns, there seems very little likelihood that the status quo would be maintained, and allocating the entirely of Timber Lane to McLean seems even less feasible.

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Anonymous wrote:The issue can be easily resolved by: 1) Limit Cooper MS to only Langley residents. That will reduce capacity at Langley HS; 2) Make McLean HS into a secondary school for only McLean residents. It means Franklin Sherman & Kent Gardens ES go to McLean secondary school. Give Longfellow MS back to Falls Church; 3) Create an AAP center at either Franklin Sherman or Kent Garden (I think there is an AAP at Churchill). That will reduce the capacity at McLean HS, but Falls Church parents will cry foul because that will bring down their property values, LOL.

Longfellow is located in McLean. It has never been part of Falls Church City. (same for Haycock, which you seemed to have missed in your proposal).



https://data.census.gov/profile?q=McLean%20CDP

Longfellow and Haycock are both in the 22043 zip code which is Falls Church outside of FCC. This part of 22043 does pay into the McLean tax district, though.

They are part of the McLean tax district because they are part of McLean. The Post Office does not determine school districts. There are people with Arlington postal zip codes that live in Fairfax county and there are people with Fairfax County zip codes that live in Arlington. Their children go to schools based on where they live not their postal code. There are even a few whose property splits between Arlington and Fairfax counties and they get to choose between the two school districts.

PP and I agree with you. There’s a poster fixated on kicking any Falls Church address off to Falls Church High School to torpedo their property values, even though 22043 is split between McLean and Marshall.

DP. The way they set the boundary policy, timberlane attendance island is going to be going to a different school.

Not necessarily. They could move the Spring Hill attendance island to Langley and leave the Timber Lane island at McLean. The island is closer to Falls Church and Marshall than McLean, but it’s also probably closer to Longfellow than it is Kilmer or Jackson, and it exists in part due to the geography of Falls Church City.

That keeps the Timber Lane diversity at McLean but still provides a justification, should they be so inclined, to move Forestville to Herndon.

Not saying this will or should happen, but it’s certainly a possibility.

Timber Lane is 22046, and a different story. As a split feeder (with FCHS) and an attendance island, it’s doubtful it’ll stay at McLean. In my mind, the most likely scenario is the entire school goes to Falls Church High School. Next would be to send it to Marshall depending on how Marshall and McLean divy their split feeders. Last would be to keep it at McLean.

Agree. I think attendance islands are undesirable, but if the island isn't too far removed from the main boundary area it's not the end of the world, but clearly they want to reduce these. My impression is that split feeders, especially at the MS->HS level, are seen as an even bigger issue because of the importance of social relationships for students and wanting to avoid divided communities within a school. Since Timber Lane has the double whammy of both these concerns, there seems very little likelihood that the status quo would be maintained, and allocating the entirely of Timber Lane to McLean seems even less feasible.

They could move the Timber Lane island to Falls Church and "bridge" the Tysons island by reassigning the area bordered by 123, 495, and the Toll Road from Marshall to McLean. If I recall correctly, that area was zoned for McLean at a time when there was little or no housing there, and then it got administratively reassigned to Marshall when the Spring Gate Apartments got built and Marshall was significantly more under capacity than McLean. It wouldn't pull a ton of kids out of Marshall, but it might allow Marshall to accept more pupil placements for IB.

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Anonymous wrote:The issue can be easily resolved by: 1) Limit Cooper MS to only Langley residents. That will reduce capacity at Langley HS; 2) Make McLean HS into a secondary school for only McLean residents. It means Franklin Sherman & Kent Gardens ES go to McLean secondary school. Give Longfellow MS back to Falls Church; 3) Create an AAP center at either Franklin Sherman or Kent Garden (I think there is an AAP at Churchill). That will reduce the capacity at McLean HS, but Falls Church parents will cry foul because that will bring down their property values, LOL.

Longfellow is located in McLean. It has never been part of Falls Church City. (same for Haycock, which you seemed to have missed in your proposal).



https://data.census.gov/profile?q=McLean%20CDP

Longfellow and Haycock are both in the 22043 zip code which is Falls Church outside of FCC. This part of 22043 does pay into the McLean tax district, though.

They are part of the McLean tax district because they are part of McLean. The Post Office does not determine school districts. There are people with Arlington postal zip codes that live in Fairfax county and there are people with Fairfax County zip codes that live in Arlington. Their children go to schools based on where they live not their postal code. There are even a few whose property splits between Arlington and Fairfax counties and they get to choose between the two school districts.

PP and I agree with you. There’s a poster fixated on kicking any Falls Church address off to Falls Church High School to torpedo their property values, even though 22043 is split between McLean and Marshall.

DP. The way they set the boundary policy, timberlane attendance island is going to be going to a different school.

Not necessarily. They could move the Spring Hill attendance island to Langley and leave the Timber Lane island at McLean. The island is closer to Falls Church and Marshall than McLean, but it’s also probably closer to Longfellow than it is Kilmer or Jackson, and it exists in part due to the geography of Falls Church City.

That keeps the Timber Lane diversity at McLean but still provides a justification, should they be so inclined, to move Forestville to Herndon.

Not saying this will or should happen, but it’s certainly a possibility.

Timber Lane is 22046, and a different story. As a split feeder (with FCHS) and an attendance island, it’s doubtful it’ll stay at McLean. In my mind, the most likely scenario is the entire school goes to Falls Church High School. Next would be to send it to Marshall depending on how Marshall and McLean divy their split feeders. Last would be to keep it at McLean.

Agree. I think attendance islands are undesirable, but if the island isn't too far removed from the main boundary area it's not the end of the world, but clearly they want to reduce these. My impression is that split feeders, especially at the MS->HS level, are seen as an even bigger issue because of the importance of social relationships for students and wanting to avoid divided communities within a school. Since Timber Lane has the double whammy of both these concerns, there seems very little likelihood that the status quo would be maintained, and allocating the entirely of Timber Lane to McLean seems even less feasible.

They could move the Timber Lane island to Falls Church and "bridge" the Tysons island by reassigning the area bordered by 123, 495, and the Toll Road from Marshall to McLean. If I recall correctly, that area was zoned for McLean at a time when there was little or no housing there, and then it got administratively reassigned to Marshall when the Spring Gate Apartments got built and Marshall was significantly more under capacity than McLean. It wouldn't pull a ton of kids out of Marshall, but it might allow Marshall to accept more pupil placements for IB.

If you believe they are going to bridge that attendance island, then there is another bridge in Brooklyn that I’d like to sell you.

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Anonymous wrote:We are trying to stay in the Langley pyramid only because we have a child at Cooper who wants to stay with her friends. We have already had quite a bit of disruption for this particular child and need to limit it going forward.

That said, does anyone have thoughts on when we might know the final decisions about potential changes in the pyramid? Are we looking at six months, a year, two years? I really have no idea.

It does seem to me like a logical change, albeit a sad one for many in the Langley community, would be to cut off the western part of Great Falls and Herndon or South Lakes. I personally think that is a likely outcome.

What I do not know is what will likely happen to McLean and the east side of the Langley boundary. For example, there are homes near downtown McLean that are closer to likely than McLean. Will all of these likely stay zoned to McLean?

To be clear, I am not interested in debating the merits of rezoning, and I know that nobody can predict the future. I’m just wondering if anyone with more knowledge about this particular area than me has any thoughts on what may be most likely to happen in the future.

I have significant thoughts and extensive knowledge of that area, but I would never share insight with someone who says that the change is logical.

If you think that the change is logical, good luck figuring it all out. In the meantime, stop trying to buy your way out of the situation.

You’re gross to want to insulate your child at the expense of your neighbors.

This is a weird response. Lots of kids want to stay at the same school.

That didn’t offend me, it’s the poster saying that the move is logical and then asking how she can avoid the consequences for her child.

what are you talking about?? anybody is free to buy a home anyplace they want, at any time, if they want to be in a certain school district. That is probably the #1 factor that families look at when choosing where to buy. I lived in Arlington for years, and then bought my current home in Great Falls because I wanted my kids to go to Langley. People will always make those type of choices, before, during, and after any boundary changes. if you find that gross or offensive, you have issues.

Sure, but again, she just seems preoccupied with her own delicate child and her own situation, while being fine with throwing her daughter’s friends under the equity bus. Go back and read her original question.

I read it and I still can't understand why you have an issue. once the new boundaries are announced, everyone will assess their options (go to the new school, buy a new home zoned for the old school, or go private) and do what is the best fit for their son or daughter. why does that bother you?

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Anonymous wrote:The issue can be easily resolved by: 1) Limit Cooper MS to only Langley residents. That will reduce capacity at Langley HS; 2) Make McLean HS into a secondary school for only McLean residents. It means Franklin Sherman & Kent Gardens ES go to McLean secondary school. Give Longfellow MS back to Falls Church; 3) Create an AAP center at either Franklin Sherman or Kent Garden (I think there is an AAP at Churchill). That will reduce the capacity at McLean HS, but Falls Church parents will cry foul because that will bring down their property values, LOL.

Longfellow is located in McLean. It has never been part of Falls Church City. (same for Haycock, which you seemed to have missed in your proposal).



https://data.census.gov/profile?q=McLean%20CDP

Longfellow and Haycock are both in the 22043 zip code which is Falls Church outside of FCC. This part of 22043 does pay into the McLean tax district, though.

They are part of the McLean tax district because they are part of McLean. The Post Office does not determine school districts. There are people with Arlington postal zip codes that live in Fairfax county and there are people with Fairfax County zip codes that live in Arlington. Their children go to schools based on where they live not their postal code. There are even a few whose property splits between Arlington and Fairfax counties and they get to choose between the two school districts.

PP and I agree with you. There’s a poster fixated on kicking any Falls Church address off to Falls Church High School to torpedo their property values, even though 22043 is split between McLean and Marshall.

DP. The way they set the boundary policy, timberlane attendance island is going to be going to a different school.

Not necessarily. They could move the Spring Hill attendance island to Langley and leave the Timber Lane island at McLean. The island is closer to Falls Church and Marshall than McLean, but it’s also probably closer to Longfellow than it is Kilmer or Jackson, and it exists in part due to the geography of Falls Church City.

That keeps the Timber Lane diversity at McLean but still provides a justification, should they be so inclined, to move Forestville to Herndon.

Not saying this will or should happen, but it’s certainly a possibility.

Timber Lane is 22046, and a different story. As a split feeder (with FCHS) and an attendance island, it’s doubtful it’ll stay at McLean. In my mind, the most likely scenario is the entire school goes to Falls Church High School. Next would be to send it to Marshall depending on how Marshall and McLean divy their split feeders. Last would be to keep it at McLean.

Agree. I think attendance islands are undesirable, but if the island isn't too far removed from the main boundary area it's not the end of the world, but clearly they want to reduce these. My impression is that split feeders, especially at the MS->HS level, are seen as an even bigger issue because of the importance of social relationships for students and wanting to avoid divided communities within a school. Since Timber Lane has the double whammy of both these concerns, there seems very little likelihood that the status quo would be maintained, and allocating the entirely of Timber Lane to McLean seems even less feasible.

They could move the Timber Lane island to Falls Church and "bridge" the Tysons island by reassigning the area bordered by 123, 495, and the Toll Road from Marshall to McLean. If I recall correctly, that area was zoned for McLean at a time when there was little or no housing there, and then it got administratively reassigned to Marshall when the Spring Gate Apartments got built and Marshall was significantly more under capacity than McLean. It wouldn't pull a ton of kids out of Marshall, but it might allow Marshall to accept more pupil placements for IB.

If you believe they are going to bridge that attendance island, then there is another bridge in Brooklyn that I’d like to sell you.

Bridging to the Spring Hill island is doable, because it’s literally just the Gates of McLean condos and the Capital One Headquarters standing in the way. It only solves the attendance island issue though.

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Anonymous wrote:The issue can be easily resolved by: 1) Limit Cooper MS to only Langley residents. That will reduce capacity at Langley HS; 2) Make McLean HS into a secondary school for only McLean residents. It means Franklin Sherman & Kent Gardens ES go to McLean secondary school. Give Longfellow MS back to Falls Church; 3) Create an AAP center at either Franklin Sherman or Kent Garden (I think there is an AAP at Churchill). That will reduce the capacity at McLean HS, but Falls Church parents will cry foul because that will bring down their property values, LOL.

Longfellow is located in McLean. It has never been part of Falls Church City. (same for Haycock, which you seemed to have missed in your proposal).



https://data.census.gov/profile?q=McLean%20CDP

Longfellow and Haycock are both in the 22043 zip code which is Falls Church outside of FCC. This part of 22043 does pay into the McLean tax district, though.

They are part of the McLean tax district because they are part of McLean. The Post Office does not determine school districts. There are people with Arlington postal zip codes that live in Fairfax county and there are people with Fairfax County zip codes that live in Arlington. Their children go to schools based on where they live not their postal code. There are even a few whose property splits between Arlington and Fairfax counties and they get to choose between the two school districts.

PP and I agree with you. There’s a poster fixated on kicking any Falls Church address off to Falls Church High School to torpedo their property values, even though 22043 is split between McLean and Marshall.

DP. The way they set the boundary policy, timberlane attendance island is going to be going to a different school.

Not necessarily. They could move the Spring Hill attendance island to Langley and leave the Timber Lane island at McLean. The island is closer to Falls Church and Marshall than McLean, but it’s also probably closer to Longfellow than it is Kilmer or Jackson, and it exists in part due to the geography of Falls Church City.

That keeps the Timber Lane diversity at McLean but still provides a justification, should they be so inclined, to move Forestville to Herndon.

Not saying this will or should happen, but it’s certainly a possibility.

Timber Lane is 22046, and a different story. As a split feeder (with FCHS) and an attendance island, it’s doubtful it’ll stay at McLean. In my mind, the most likely scenario is the entire school goes to Falls Church High School. Next would be to send it to Marshall depending on how Marshall and McLean divy their split feeders. Last would be to keep it at McLean.

Agree. I think attendance islands are undesirable, but if the island isn't too far removed from the main boundary area it's not the end of the world, but clearly they want to reduce these. My impression is that split feeders, especially at the MS->HS level, are seen as an even bigger issue because of the importance of social relationships for students and wanting to avoid divided communities within a school. Since Timber Lane has the double whammy of both these concerns, there seems very little likelihood that the status quo would be maintained, and allocating the entirely of Timber Lane to McLean seems even less feasible.

They could move the Timber Lane island to Falls Church and "bridge" the Tysons island by reassigning the area bordered by 123, 495, and the Toll Road from Marshall to McLean. If I recall correctly, that area was zoned for McLean at a time when there was little or no housing there, and then it got administratively reassigned to Marshall when the Spring Gate Apartments got built and Marshall was significantly more under capacity than McLean. It wouldn't pull a ton of kids out of Marshall, but it might allow Marshall to accept more pupil placements for IB.

If you believe they are going to bridge that attendance island, then there is another bridge in Brooklyn that I’d like to sell you.

Bridging to the Spring Hill island is doable, because it’s literally just the Gates of McLean condos and the Capital One Headquarters standing in the way. It only solves the attendance island issue though.

Query what you are actually solving with that.

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Anonymous wrote:We are trying to stay in the Langley pyramid only because we have a child at Cooper who wants to stay with her friends. We have already had quite a bit of disruption for this particular child and need to limit it going forward.

That said, does anyone have thoughts on when we might know the final decisions about potential changes in the pyramid? Are we looking at six months, a year, two years? I really have no idea.

It does seem to me like a logical change, albeit a sad one for many in the Langley community, would be to cut off the western part of Great Falls and Herndon or South Lakes. I personally think that is a likely outcome.

What I do not know is what will likely happen to McLean and the east side of the Langley boundary. For example, there are homes near downtown McLean that are closer to likely than McLean. Will all of these likely stay zoned to McLean?

To be clear, I am not interested in debating the merits of rezoning, and I know that nobody can predict the future. I’m just wondering if anyone with more knowledge about this particular area than me has any thoughts on what may be most likely to happen in the future.

I have significant thoughts and extensive knowledge of that area, but I would never share insight with someone who says that the change is logical.

If you think that the change is logical, good luck figuring it all out. In the meantime, stop trying to buy your way out of the situation.

You’re gross to want to insulate your child at the expense of your neighbors.

This is a weird response. Lots of kids want to stay at the same school.

That didn’t offend me, it’s the poster saying that the move is logical and then asking how she can avoid the consequences for her child.

what are you talking about?? anybody is free to buy a home anyplace they want, at any time, if they want to be in a certain school district. That is probably the #1 factor that families look at when choosing where to buy. I lived in Arlington for years, and then bought my current home in Great Falls because I wanted my kids to go to Langley. People will always make those type of choices, before, during, and after any boundary changes. if you find that gross or offensive, you have issues.

Sure, but again, she just seems preoccupied with her own delicate child and her own situation, while being fine with throwing her daughter’s friends under the equity bus. Go back and read her original question.

I read it and I still can't understand why you have an issue. once the new boundaries are announced, everyone will assess their options (go to the new school, buy a new home zoned for the old school, or go private) and do what is the best fit for their son or daughter. why does that bother you?

Let me reframe it for you. If she is rich enough to be able to afford a McLean home post-divorce, then none of the sjws who have been paying attention will help her out.

So she’s looking to the other block of people who are paying attention for help, which is western gf. Any help that she would get from them goes out the window when she says that it is logical that their kids get moved. A bite the hand that feeds you type situation.

Oh well, like I said, T&P to her.

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Anonymous wrote:The issue can be easily resolved by: 1) Limit Cooper MS to only Langley residents. That will reduce capacity at Langley HS; 2) Make McLean HS into a secondary school for only McLean residents. It means Franklin Sherman & Kent Gardens ES go to McLean secondary school. Give Longfellow MS back to Falls Church; 3) Create an AAP center at either Franklin Sherman or Kent Garden (I think there is an AAP at Churchill). That will reduce the capacity at McLean HS, but Falls Church parents will cry foul because that will bring down their property values, LOL.

Longfellow is located in McLean. It has never been part of Falls Church City. (same for Haycock, which you seemed to have missed in your proposal).



https://data.census.gov/profile?q=McLean%20CDP

Longfellow and Haycock are both in the 22043 zip code which is Falls Church outside of FCC. This part of 22043 does pay into the McLean tax district, though.

They are part of the McLean tax district because they are part of McLean. The Post Office does not determine school districts. There are people with Arlington postal zip codes that live in Fairfax county and there are people with Fairfax County zip codes that live in Arlington. Their children go to schools based on where they live not their postal code. There are even a few whose property splits between Arlington and Fairfax counties and they get to choose between the two school districts.

PP and I agree with you. There’s a poster fixated on kicking any Falls Church address off to Falls Church High School to torpedo their property values, even though 22043 is split between McLean and Marshall.

DP. The way they set the boundary policy, timberlane attendance island is going to be going to a different school.

Not necessarily. They could move the Spring Hill attendance island to Langley and leave the Timber Lane island at McLean. The island is closer to Falls Church and Marshall than McLean, but it’s also probably closer to Longfellow than it is Kilmer or Jackson, and it exists in part due to the geography of Falls Church City.

That keeps the Timber Lane diversity at McLean but still provides a justification, should they be so inclined, to move Forestville to Herndon.

Not saying this will or should happen, but it’s certainly a possibility.

Timber Lane is 22046, and a different story. As a split feeder (with FCHS) and an attendance island, it’s doubtful it’ll stay at McLean. In my mind, the most likely scenario is the entire school goes to Falls Church High School. Next would be to send it to Marshall depending on how Marshall and McLean divy their split feeders. Last would be to keep it at McLean.

Agree. I think attendance islands are undesirable, but if the island isn't too far removed from the main boundary area it's not the end of the world, but clearly they want to reduce these. My impression is that split feeders, especially at the MS->HS level, are seen as an even bigger issue because of the importance of social relationships for students and wanting to avoid divided communities within a school. Since Timber Lane has the double whammy of both these concerns, there seems very little likelihood that the status quo would be maintained, and allocating the entirely of Timber Lane to McLean seems even less feasible.

They could move the Timber Lane island to Falls Church and "bridge" the Tysons island by reassigning the area bordered by 123, 495, and the Toll Road from Marshall to McLean. If I recall correctly, that area was zoned for McLean at a time when there was little or no housing there, and then it got administratively reassigned to Marshall when the Spring Gate Apartments got built and Marshall was significantly more under capacity than McLean. It wouldn't pull a ton of kids out of Marshall, but it might allow Marshall to accept more pupil placements for IB.

If you believe they are going to bridge that attendance island, then there is another bridge in Brooklyn that I’d like to sell you.

Bridging to the Spring Hill island is doable, because it’s literally just the Gates of McLean condos and the Capital One Headquarters standing in the way. It only solves the attendance island issue though.

Query what you are actually solving with that.

It would bridge the Tysons island and offset a fraction of the enrollment loss if the Timber Lane island moves to Falls Church.

Then, if the Spring Hill area in Tysons stays at McLean, there will be less of a case for moving Forestville from Langley to Herndon and they won’t be besieged with Great Falls parents trying to derail the entire boundary process.

They’d no longer have two attendance islands at McLean and they’d get rid of one split feeder at Timber Lane, although Spring Hill and Westgate would remain split feeders.

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Anonymous wrote:We are trying to stay in the Langley pyramid only because we have a child at Cooper who wants to stay with her friends. We have already had quite a bit of disruption for this particular child and need to limit it going forward.

That said, does anyone have thoughts on when we might know the final decisions about potential changes in the pyramid? Are we looking at six months, a year, two years? I really have no idea.

It does seem to me like a logical change, albeit a sad one for many in the Langley community, would be to cut off the western part of Great Falls and Herndon or South Lakes. I personally think that is a likely outcome.

What I do not know is what will likely happen to McLean and the east side of the Langley boundary. For example, there are homes near downtown McLean that are closer to likely than McLean. Will all of these likely stay zoned to McLean?

To be clear, I am not interested in debating the merits of rezoning, and I know that nobody can predict the future. I’m just wondering if anyone with more knowledge about this particular area than me has any thoughts on what may be most likely to happen in the future.

I have significant thoughts and extensive knowledge of that area, but I would never share insight with someone who says that the change is logical.

If you think that the change is logical, good luck figuring it all out. In the meantime, stop trying to buy your way out of the situation.

You’re gross to want to insulate your child at the expense of your neighbors.

This is a weird response. Lots of kids want to stay at the same school.

That didn’t offend me, it’s the poster saying that the move is logical and then asking how she can avoid the consequences for her child.

what are you talking about?? anybody is free to buy a home anyplace they want, at any time, if they want to be in a certain school district. That is probably the #1 factor that families look at when choosing where to buy. I lived in Arlington for years, and then bought my current home in Great Falls because I wanted my kids to go to Langley. People will always make those type of choices, before, during, and after any boundary changes. if you find that gross or offensive, you have issues.

Sure, but again, she just seems preoccupied with her own delicate child and her own situation, while being fine with throwing her daughter’s friends under the equity bus. Go back and read her original question.

I read it and I still can't understand why you have an issue. once the new boundaries are announced, everyone will assess their options (go to the new school, buy a new home zoned for the old school, or go private) and do what is the best fit for their son or daughter. why does that bother you?

Let me reframe it for you. If she is rich enough to be able to afford a McLean home post-divorce, then none of the sjws who have been paying attention will help her out.

So she’s looking to the other block of people who are paying attention for help, which is western gf. Any help that she would get from them goes out the window when she says that it is logical that their kids get moved. A bite the hand that feeds you type situation.

Oh well, like I said, T&P to her.

There have already been people giving her advice, and they don’t necessarily fall in your convenient buckets. They are just telling her which areas are generally perceived to be at greater risk of redistricting.

I’m sorry if you live in one of those areas and don’t want to be redistricted but anyone who bought that far away from Langley should have known they were taking a risk.

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Anonymous wrote:We are trying to stay in the Langley pyramid only because we have a child at Cooper who wants to stay with her friends. We have already had quite a bit of disruption for this particular child and need to limit it going forward.

That said, does anyone have thoughts on when we might know the final decisions about potential changes in the pyramid? Are we looking at six months, a year, two years? I really have no idea.

It does seem to me like a logical change, albeit a sad one for many in the Langley community, would be to cut off the western part of Great Falls and Herndon or South Lakes. I personally think that is a likely outcome.

What I do not know is what will likely happen to McLean and the east side of the Langley boundary. For example, there are homes near downtown McLean that are closer to likely than McLean. Will all of these likely stay zoned to McLean?

To be clear, I am not interested in debating the merits of rezoning, and I know that nobody can predict the future. I’m just wondering if anyone with more knowledge about this particular area than me has any thoughts on what may be most likely to happen in the future.

I have significant thoughts and extensive knowledge of that area, but I would never share insight with someone who says that the change is logical.

If you think that the change is logical, good luck figuring it all out. In the meantime, stop trying to buy your way out of the situation.

You’re gross to want to insulate your child at the expense of your neighbors.

This is a weird response. Lots of kids want to stay at the same school.

That didn’t offend me, it’s the poster saying that the move is logical and then asking how she can avoid the consequences for her child.

what are you talking about?? anybody is free to buy a home anyplace they want, at any time, if they want to be in a certain school district. That is probably the #1 factor that families look at when choosing where to buy. I lived in Arlington for years, and then bought my current home in Great Falls because I wanted my kids to go to Langley. People will always make those type of choices, before, during, and after any boundary changes. if you find that gross or offensive, you have issues.

Sure, but again, she just seems preoccupied with her own delicate child and her own situation, while being fine with throwing her daughter’s friends under the equity bus. Go back and read her original question.

I read it and I still can't understand why you have an issue. once the new boundaries are announced, everyone will assess their options (go to the new school, buy a new home zoned for the old school, or go private) and do what is the best fit for their son or daughter. why does that bother you?

Let me reframe it for you. If she is rich enough to be able to afford a McLean home post-divorce, then none of the sjws who have been paying attention will help her out.

So she’s looking to the other block of people who are paying attention for help, which is western gf. Any help that she would get from them goes out the window when she says that it is logical that their kids get moved. A bite the hand that feeds you type situation.

Oh well, like I said, T&P to her.

There have already been people giving her advice, and they don’t necessarily fall in your convenient buckets. They are just telling her which areas are generally perceived to be at greater risk of redistricting.

I’m sorry if you live in one of those areas and don’t want to be redistricted but anyone who bought that far away from Langley should have known they were taking a risk.

Yep, she should understand she’s taking a risk buying anywhere in Fairfax county. Sucks to be her, or really, anyone who is about to get jammed up by this school board. Or really any Fairfax county resident who is about to see their school system severely diminished in the name of equity.

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Anonymous wrote:We are trying to stay in the Langley pyramid only because we have a child at Cooper who wants to stay with her friends. We have already had quite a bit of disruption for this particular child and need to limit it going forward.

That said, does anyone have thoughts on when we might know the final decisions about potential changes in the pyramid? Are we looking at six months, a year, two years? I really have no idea.

It does seem to me like a logical change, albeit a sad one for many in the Langley community, would be to cut off the western part of Great Falls and Herndon or South Lakes. I personally think that is a likely outcome.

What I do not know is what will likely happen to McLean and the east side of the Langley boundary. For example, there are homes near downtown McLean that are closer to likely than McLean. Will all of these likely stay zoned to McLean?

To be clear, I am not interested in debating the merits of rezoning, and I know that nobody can predict the future. I’m just wondering if anyone with more knowledge about this particular area than me has any thoughts on what may be most likely to happen in the future.

I have significant thoughts and extensive knowledge of that area, but I would never share insight with someone who says that the change is logical.

If you think that the change is logical, good luck figuring it all out. In the meantime, stop trying to buy your way out of the situation.

You’re gross to want to insulate your child at the expense of your neighbors.

This is a weird response. Lots of kids want to stay at the same school.

That didn’t offend me, it’s the poster saying that the move is logical and then asking how she can avoid the consequences for her child.

what are you talking about?? anybody is free to buy a home anyplace they want, at any time, if they want to be in a certain school district. That is probably the #1 factor that families look at when choosing where to buy. I lived in Arlington for years, and then bought my current home in Great Falls because I wanted my kids to go to Langley. People will always make those type of choices, before, during, and after any boundary changes. if you find that gross or offensive, you have issues.

Sure, but again, she just seems preoccupied with her own delicate child and her own situation, while being fine with throwing her daughter’s friends under the equity bus. Go back and read her original question.

I read it and I still can't understand why you have an issue. once the new boundaries are announced, everyone will assess their options (go to the new school, buy a new home zoned for the old school, or go private) and do what is the best fit for their son or daughter. why does that bother you?

Let me reframe it for you. If she is rich enough to be able to afford a McLean home post-divorce, then none of the sjws who have been paying attention will help her out.

So she’s looking to the other block of people who are paying attention for help, which is western gf. Any help that she would get from them goes out the window when she says that it is logical that their kids get moved. A bite the hand that feeds you type situation.

Oh well, like I said, T&P to her.

There have already been people giving her advice, and they don’t necessarily fall in your convenient buckets. They are just telling her which areas are generally perceived to be at greater risk of redistricting.

I’m sorry if you live in one of those areas and don’t want to be redistricted but anyone who bought that far away from Langley should have known they were taking a risk.

Especially as portions of that Langley zone were previously zoned for Herndon.

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Anonymous wrote:We are trying to stay in the Langley pyramid only because we have a child at Cooper who wants to stay with her friends. We have already had quite a bit of disruption for this particular child and need to limit it going forward.

That said, does anyone have thoughts on when we might know the final decisions about potential changes in the pyramid? Are we looking at six months, a year, two years? I really have no idea.

It does seem to me like a logical change, albeit a sad one for many in the Langley community, would be to cut off the western part of Great Falls and Herndon or South Lakes. I personally think that is a likely outcome.

What I do not know is what will likely happen to McLean and the east side of the Langley boundary. For example, there are homes near downtown McLean that are closer to likely than McLean. Will all of these likely stay zoned to McLean?

To be clear, I am not interested in debating the merits of rezoning, and I know that nobody can predict the future. I’m just wondering if anyone with more knowledge about this particular area than me has any thoughts on what may be most likely to happen in the future.

I have significant thoughts and extensive knowledge of that area, but I would never share insight with someone who says that the change is logical.

If you think that the change is logical, good luck figuring it all out. In the meantime, stop trying to buy your way out of the situation.

You’re gross to want to insulate your child at the expense of your neighbors.

This is a weird response. Lots of kids want to stay at the same school.

That didn’t offend me, it’s the poster saying that the move is logical and then asking how she can avoid the consequences for her child.

what are you talking about?? anybody is free to buy a home anyplace they want, at any time, if they want to be in a certain school district. That is probably the #1 factor that families look at when choosing where to buy. I lived in Arlington for years, and then bought my current home in Great Falls because I wanted my kids to go to Langley. People will always make those type of choices, before, during, and after any boundary changes. if you find that gross or offensive, you have issues.

Sure, but again, she just seems preoccupied with her own delicate child and her own situation, while being fine with throwing her daughter’s friends under the equity bus. Go back and read her original question.

I read it and I still can't understand why you have an issue. once the new boundaries are announced, everyone will assess their options (go to the new school, buy a new home zoned for the old school, or go private) and do what is the best fit for their son or daughter. why does that bother you?

Let me reframe it for you. If she is rich enough to be able to afford a McLean home post-divorce, then none of the sjws who have been paying attention will help her out.

So she’s looking to the other block of people who are paying attention for help, which is western gf. Any help that she would get from them goes out the window when she says that it is logical that their kids get moved. A bite the hand that feeds you type situation.

Oh well, like I said, T&P to her.

There have already been people giving her advice, and they don’t necessarily fall in your convenient buckets. They are just telling her which areas are generally perceived to be at greater risk of redistricting.

I’m sorry if you live in one of those areas and don’t want to be redistricted but anyone who bought that far away from Langley should have known they were taking a risk.

Yep, she should understand she’s taking a risk buying anywhere in Fairfax county. Sucks to be her, or really, anyone who is about to get jammed up by this school board. Or really any Fairfax county resident who is about to see their school system severely diminished in the name of equity.

This is more fiscal driven than equity driven. The renovation queue is getting longer, they haven't been able to fund the Western HS in a decade, they're fighting a national teacher attrition trend, and there are more and more students in our county needing a variety of special services. Anything that can help reduce costs is going to be welcome.

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Anonymous wrote:We are trying to stay in the Langley pyramid only because we have a child at Cooper who wants to stay with her friends. We have already had quite a bit of disruption for this particular child and need to limit it going forward.

That said, does anyone have thoughts on when we might know the final decisions about potential changes in the pyramid? Are we looking at six months, a year, two years? I really have no idea.

It does seem to me like a logical change, albeit a sad one for many in the Langley community, would be to cut off the western part of Great Falls and Herndon or South Lakes. I personally think that is a likely outcome.

What I do not know is what will likely happen to McLean and the east side of the Langley boundary. For example, there are homes near downtown McLean that are closer to likely than McLean. Will all of these likely stay zoned to McLean?

To be clear, I am not interested in debating the merits of rezoning, and I know that nobody can predict the future. I’m just wondering if anyone with more knowledge about this particular area than me has any thoughts on what may be most likely to happen in the future.

I have significant thoughts and extensive knowledge of that area, but I would never share insight with someone who says that the change is logical.

If you think that the change is logical, good luck figuring it all out. In the meantime, stop trying to buy your way out of the situation.

You’re gross to want to insulate your child at the expense of your neighbors.

This is a weird response. Lots of kids want to stay at the same school.

That didn’t offend me, it’s the poster saying that the move is logical and then asking how she can avoid the consequences for her child.

what are you talking about?? anybody is free to buy a home anyplace they want, at any time, if they want to be in a certain school district. That is probably the #1 factor that families look at when choosing where to buy. I lived in Arlington for years, and then bought my current home in Great Falls because I wanted my kids to go to Langley. People will always make those type of choices, before, during, and after any boundary changes. if you find that gross or offensive, you have issues.

Sure, but again, she just seems preoccupied with her own delicate child and her own situation, while being fine with throwing her daughter’s friends under the equity bus. Go back and read her original question.

I read it and I still can't understand why you have an issue. once the new boundaries are announced, everyone will assess their options (go to the new school, buy a new home zoned for the old school, or go private) and do what is the best fit for their son or daughter. why does that bother you?

Let me reframe it for you. If she is rich enough to be able to afford a McLean home post-divorce, then none of the sjws who have been paying attention will help her out.

So she’s looking to the other block of people who are paying attention for help, which is western gf. Any help that she would get from them goes out the window when she says that it is logical that their kids get moved. A bite the hand that feeds you type situation.

Oh well, like I said, T&P to her.

There have already been people giving her advice, and they don’t necessarily fall in your convenient buckets. They are just telling her which areas are generally perceived to be at greater risk of redistricting.

I’m sorry if you live in one of those areas and don’t want to be redistricted but anyone who bought that far away from Langley should have known they were taking a risk.

Yep, she should understand she’s taking a risk buying anywhere in Fairfax county. Sucks to be her, or really, anyone who is about to get jammed up by this school board. Or really any Fairfax county resident who is about to see their school system severely diminished in the name of equity.

This is more fiscal driven than equity driven. The renovation queue is getting longer, they haven't been able to fund the Western HS in a decade, they're fighting a national teacher attrition trend, and there are more and more students in our county needing a variety of special services. Anything that can help reduce costs is going to be welcome.

Um, you lose all credibility when you say that they haven’t been able to fund western high when voters approved site acquisition funds in 2021 and have never shot down money for the school.

And if you truly believe that the democrats are doing this as a cost saving matter, then you’ve drank their kool aid and are just willfully blind.

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Anonymous wrote:We are trying to stay in the Langley pyramid only because we have a child at Cooper who wants to stay with her friends. We have already had quite a bit of disruption for this particular child and need to limit it going forward.

That said, does anyone have thoughts on when we might know the final decisions about potential changes in the pyramid? Are we looking at six months, a year, two years? I really have no idea.

It does seem to me like a logical change, albeit a sad one for many in the Langley community, would be to cut off the western part of Great Falls and Herndon or South Lakes. I personally think that is a likely outcome.

What I do not know is what will likely happen to McLean and the east side of the Langley boundary. For example, there are homes near downtown McLean that are closer to likely than McLean. Will all of these likely stay zoned to McLean?

To be clear, I am not interested in debating the merits of rezoning, and I know that nobody can predict the future. I’m just wondering if anyone with more knowledge about this particular area than me has any thoughts on what may be most likely to happen in the future.

I have significant thoughts and extensive knowledge of that area, but I would never share insight with someone who says that the change is logical.

If you think that the change is logical, good luck figuring it all out. In the meantime, stop trying to buy your way out of the situation.

You’re gross to want to insulate your child at the expense of your neighbors.

This is a weird response. Lots of kids want to stay at the same school.

That didn’t offend me, it’s the poster saying that the move is logical and then asking how she can avoid the consequences for her child.

what are you talking about?? anybody is free to buy a home anyplace they want, at any time, if they want to be in a certain school district. That is probably the #1 factor that families look at when choosing where to buy. I lived in Arlington for years, and then bought my current home in Great Falls because I wanted my kids to go to Langley. People will always make those type of choices, before, during, and after any boundary changes. if you find that gross or offensive, you have issues.

Sure, but again, she just seems preoccupied with her own delicate child and her own situation, while being fine with throwing her daughter’s friends under the equity bus. Go back and read her original question.

I read it and I still can't understand why you have an issue. once the new boundaries are announced, everyone will assess their options (go to the new school, buy a new home zoned for the old school, or go private) and do what is the best fit for their son or daughter. why does that bother you?

Let me reframe it for you. If she is rich enough to be able to afford a McLean home post-divorce, then none of the sjws who have been paying attention will help her out.

So she’s looking to the other block of people who are paying attention for help, which is western gf. Any help that she would get from them goes out the window when she says that it is logical that their kids get moved. A bite the hand that feeds you type situation.

Oh well, like I said, T&P to her.

There have already been people giving her advice, and they don’t necessarily fall in your convenient buckets. They are just telling her which areas are generally perceived to be at greater risk of redistricting.

I’m sorry if you live in one of those areas and don’t want to be redistricted but anyone who bought that far away from Langley should have known they were taking a risk.

Yep, she should understand she’s taking a risk buying anywhere in Fairfax county. Sucks to be her, or really, anyone who is about to get jammed up by this school board. Or really any Fairfax county resident who is about to see their school system severely diminished in the name of equity.

This is more fiscal driven than equity driven. The renovation queue is getting longer, they haven't been able to fund the Western HS in a decade, they're fighting a national teacher attrition trend, and there are more and more students in our county needing a variety of special services. Anything that can help reduce costs is going to be welcome.

BS. If they want to demonstrate some fiscal discipline, the most obvious thing would be to cancel the $80M Dunn Loring boondoggle and put that money to better use.

But they won’t, because they don’t really care about fiscal austerity and Dunn Loring is the pet project of our childless, clueless School Board chair.

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Anonymous wrote:We are trying to stay in the Langley pyramid only because we have a child at Cooper who wants to stay with her friends. We have already had quite a bit of disruption for this particular child and need to limit it going forward.

That said, does anyone have thoughts on when we might know the final decisions about potential changes in the pyramid? Are we looking at six months, a year, two years? I really have no idea.

It does seem to me like a logical change, albeit a sad one for many in the Langley community, would be to cut off the western part of Great Falls and Herndon or South Lakes. I personally think that is a likely outcome.

What I do not know is what will likely happen to McLean and the east side of the Langley boundary. For example, there are homes near downtown McLean that are closer to likely than McLean. Will all of these likely stay zoned to McLean?

To be clear, I am not interested in debating the merits of rezoning, and I know that nobody can predict the future. I’m just wondering if anyone with more knowledge about this particular area than me has any thoughts on what may be most likely to happen in the future.

I have significant thoughts and extensive knowledge of that area, but I would never share insight with someone who says that the change is logical.

If you think that the change is logical, good luck figuring it all out. In the meantime, stop trying to buy your way out of the situation.

You’re gross to want to insulate your child at the expense of your neighbors.

This is a weird response. Lots of kids want to stay at the same school.

That didn’t offend me, it’s the poster saying that the move is logical and then asking how she can avoid the consequences for her child.

what are you talking about?? anybody is free to buy a home anyplace they want, at any time, if they want to be in a certain school district. That is probably the #1 factor that families look at when choosing where to buy. I lived in Arlington for years, and then bought my current home in Great Falls because I wanted my kids to go to Langley. People will always make those type of choices, before, during, and after any boundary changes. if you find that gross or offensive, you have issues.

Sure, but again, she just seems preoccupied with her own delicate child and her own situation, while being fine with throwing her daughter’s friends under the equity bus. Go back and read her original question.

I read it and I still can't understand why you have an issue. once the new boundaries are announced, everyone will assess their options (go to the new school, buy a new home zoned for the old school, or go private) and do what is the best fit for their son or daughter. why does that bother you?

Let me reframe it for you. If she is rich enough to be able to afford a McLean home post-divorce, then none of the sjws who have been paying attention will help her out.

So she’s looking to the other block of people who are paying attention for help, which is western gf. Any help that she would get from them goes out the window when she says that it is logical that their kids get moved. A bite the hand that feeds you type situation.

Oh well, like I said, T&P to her.

There have already been people giving her advice, and they don’t necessarily fall in your convenient buckets. They are just telling her which areas are generally perceived to be at greater risk of redistricting.

I’m sorry if you live in one of those areas and don’t want to be redistricted but anyone who bought that far away from Langley should have known they were taking a risk.

Yep, she should understand she’s taking a risk buying anywhere in Fairfax county. Sucks to be her, or really, anyone who is about to get jammed up by this school board. Or really any Fairfax county resident who is about to see their school system severely diminished in the name of equity.

I am confused about how rezoning is going to address equity. People buy houses where they want to live and where they want to send their children to school. Rezoning will not change that basic fact. People will move. Does anyone actually have real information that this is about equity or is it just paranoia?

And to the lady who is fixated on how the OP says it boundary changes are logical but wants to know how she can get around it: so if she rationalized that the boundary changes are completely illogical (as apparently you have) then she'd be a better person worth giving advice? Whether you think they are logical or not is unrelated to your own interest in where your child goes to school and doing what you can to keep them where you would like them to be.