Impact of McLean/Langley boundary change on McLean real estate choice

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Anonymous wrote:We are trying to stay in the Langley pyramid only because we have a child at Cooper who wants to stay with her friends. We have already had quite a bit of disruption for this particular child and need to limit it going forward.

That said, does anyone have thoughts on when we might know the final decisions about potential changes in the pyramid? Are we looking at six months, a year, two years? I really have no idea.

It does seem to me like a logical change, albeit a sad one for many in the Langley community, would be to cut off the western part of Great Falls and Herndon or South Lakes. I personally think that is a likely outcome.

What I do not know is what will likely happen to McLean and the east side of the Langley boundary. For example, there are homes near downtown McLean that are closer to likely than McLean. Will all of these likely stay zoned to McLean?

To be clear, I am not interested in debating the merits of rezoning, and I know that nobody can predict the future. I’m just wondering if anyone with more knowledge about this particular area than me has any thoughts on what may be most likely to happen in the future.

I have significant thoughts and extensive knowledge of that area, but I would never share insight with someone who says that the change is logical.

If you think that the change is logical, good luck figuring it all out. In the meantime, stop trying to buy your way out of the situation.

You’re gross to want to insulate your child at the expense of your neighbors.

This is a weird response. Lots of kids want to stay at the same school.

That didn’t offend me, it’s the poster saying that the move is logical and then asking how she can avoid the consequences for her child.

what are you talking about?? anybody is free to buy a home anyplace they want, at any time, if they want to be in a certain school district. That is probably the #1 factor that families look at when choosing where to buy. I lived in Arlington for years, and then bought my current home in Great Falls because I wanted my kids to go to Langley. People will always make those type of choices, before, during, and after any boundary changes. if you find that gross or offensive, you have issues.

Sure, but again, she just seems preoccupied with her own delicate child and her own situation, while being fine with throwing her daughter’s friends under the equity bus. Go back and read her original question.

I read it and I still can't understand why you have an issue. once the new boundaries are announced, everyone will assess their options (go to the new school, buy a new home zoned for the old school, or go private) and do what is the best fit for their son or daughter. why does that bother you?

Let me reframe it for you. If she is rich enough to be able to afford a McLean home post-divorce, then none of the sjws who have been paying attention will help her out.

So she’s looking to the other block of people who are paying attention for help, which is western gf. Any help that she would get from them goes out the window when she says that it is logical that their kids get moved. A bite the hand that feeds you type situation.

Oh well, like I said, T&P to her.

There have already been people giving her advice, and they don’t necessarily fall in your convenient buckets. They are just telling her which areas are generally perceived to be at greater risk of redistricting.

I’m sorry if you live in one of those areas and don’t want to be redistricted but anyone who bought that far away from Langley should have known they were taking a risk.

Yep, she should understand she’s taking a risk buying anywhere in Fairfax county. Sucks to be her, or really, anyone who is about to get jammed up by this school board. Or really any Fairfax county resident who is about to see their school system severely diminished in the name of equity.

I am confused about how rezoning is going to address equity. People buy houses where they want to live and where they want to send their children to school. Rezoning will not change that basic fact. People will move. Does anyone actually have real information that this is about equity or is it just paranoia?

And to the lady who is fixated on how the OP says it boundary changes are logical but wants to know how she can get around it: so if she rationalized that the boundary changes are completely illogical (as apparently you have) then she'd be a better person worth giving advice? Whether you think they are logical or not is unrelated to your own interest in where your child goes to school and doing what you can to keep them where you would like them to be.

There are significant transaction costs associated with moving. People will come on here and say they’ll move if they get redistricted because they want the School Board to think that changing boundaries won’t achieve the intended purpose, whether it’s changing the demographics at a school or just trying to change enrollments. But only a fraction of people will be willing to incur moving costs, so they are stuck.

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Anonymous wrote:We are trying to stay in the Langley pyramid only because we have a child at Cooper who wants to stay with her friends. We have already had quite a bit of disruption for this particular child and need to limit it going forward.

That said, does anyone have thoughts on when we might know the final decisions about potential changes in the pyramid? Are we looking at six months, a year, two years? I really have no idea.

It does seem to me like a logical change, albeit a sad one for many in the Langley community, would be to cut off the western part of Great Falls and Herndon or South Lakes. I personally think that is a likely outcome.

What I do not know is what will likely happen to McLean and the east side of the Langley boundary. For example, there are homes near downtown McLean that are closer to likely than McLean. Will all of these likely stay zoned to McLean?

To be clear, I am not interested in debating the merits of rezoning, and I know that nobody can predict the future. I’m just wondering if anyone with more knowledge about this particular area than me has any thoughts on what may be most likely to happen in the future.

I have significant thoughts and extensive knowledge of that area, but I would never share insight with someone who says that the change is logical.

If you think that the change is logical, good luck figuring it all out. In the meantime, stop trying to buy your way out of the situation.

You’re gross to want to insulate your child at the expense of your neighbors.

This is a weird response. Lots of kids want to stay at the same school.

That didn’t offend me, it’s the poster saying that the move is logical and then asking how she can avoid the consequences for her child.

what are you talking about?? anybody is free to buy a home anyplace they want, at any time, if they want to be in a certain school district. That is probably the #1 factor that families look at when choosing where to buy. I lived in Arlington for years, and then bought my current home in Great Falls because I wanted my kids to go to Langley. People will always make those type of choices, before, during, and after any boundary changes. if you find that gross or offensive, you have issues.

Sure, but again, she just seems preoccupied with her own delicate child and her own situation, while being fine with throwing her daughter’s friends under the equity bus. Go back and read her original question.

I read it and I still can't understand why you have an issue. once the new boundaries are announced, everyone will assess their options (go to the new school, buy a new home zoned for the old school, or go private) and do what is the best fit for their son or daughter. why does that bother you?

Let me reframe it for you. If she is rich enough to be able to afford a McLean home post-divorce, then none of the sjws who have been paying attention will help her out.

So she’s looking to the other block of people who are paying attention for help, which is western gf. Any help that she would get from them goes out the window when she says that it is logical that their kids get moved. A bite the hand that feeds you type situation.

Oh well, like I said, T&P to her.

There have already been people giving her advice, and they don’t necessarily fall in your convenient buckets. They are just telling her which areas are generally perceived to be at greater risk of redistricting.

I’m sorry if you live in one of those areas and don’t want to be redistricted but anyone who bought that far away from Langley should have known they were taking a risk.

Yep, she should understand she’s taking a risk buying anywhere in Fairfax county. Sucks to be her, or really, anyone who is about to get jammed up by this school board. Or really any Fairfax county resident who is about to see their school system severely diminished in the name of equity.

I am confused about how rezoning is going to address equity. People buy houses where they want to live and where they want to send their children to school. Rezoning will not change that basic fact. People will move. Does anyone actually have real information that this is about equity or is it just paranoia?

And to the lady who is fixated on how the OP says it boundary changes are logical but wants to know how she can get around it: so if she rationalized that the boundary changes are completely illogical (as apparently you have) then she'd be a better person worth giving advice? Whether you think they are logical or not is unrelated to your own interest in where your child goes to school and doing what you can to keep them where you would like them to be.

There are significant transaction costs associated with moving. People will come on here and say they’ll move if they get redistricted because they want the School Board to think that changing boundaries won’t achieve the intended purpose, whether it’s changing the demographics at a school or just trying to change enrollments. But only a fraction of people will be willing to incur moving costs, so they are stuck.

Hahahahaaaa. Dumbest thing I’ve read today.

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Anonymous wrote:We are trying to stay in the Langley pyramid only because we have a child at Cooper who wants to stay with her friends. We have already had quite a bit of disruption for this particular child and need to limit it going forward.

That said, does anyone have thoughts on when we might know the final decisions about potential changes in the pyramid? Are we looking at six months, a year, two years? I really have no idea.

It does seem to me like a logical change, albeit a sad one for many in the Langley community, would be to cut off the western part of Great Falls and Herndon or South Lakes. I personally think that is a likely outcome.

What I do not know is what will likely happen to McLean and the east side of the Langley boundary. For example, there are homes near downtown McLean that are closer to likely than McLean. Will all of these likely stay zoned to McLean?

To be clear, I am not interested in debating the merits of rezoning, and I know that nobody can predict the future. I’m just wondering if anyone with more knowledge about this particular area than me has any thoughts on what may be most likely to happen in the future.

I have significant thoughts and extensive knowledge of that area, but I would never share insight with someone who says that the change is logical.

If you think that the change is logical, good luck figuring it all out. In the meantime, stop trying to buy your way out of the situation.

You’re gross to want to insulate your child at the expense of your neighbors.

This is a weird response. Lots of kids want to stay at the same school.

That didn’t offend me, it’s the poster saying that the move is logical and then asking how she can avoid the consequences for her child.

what are you talking about?? anybody is free to buy a home anyplace they want, at any time, if they want to be in a certain school district. That is probably the #1 factor that families look at when choosing where to buy. I lived in Arlington for years, and then bought my current home in Great Falls because I wanted my kids to go to Langley. People will always make those type of choices, before, during, and after any boundary changes. if you find that gross or offensive, you have issues.

Sure, but again, she just seems preoccupied with her own delicate child and her own situation, while being fine with throwing her daughter’s friends under the equity bus. Go back and read her original question.

I read it and I still can't understand why you have an issue. once the new boundaries are announced, everyone will assess their options (go to the new school, buy a new home zoned for the old school, or go private) and do what is the best fit for their son or daughter. why does that bother you?

Let me reframe it for you. If she is rich enough to be able to afford a McLean home post-divorce, then none of the sjws who have been paying attention will help her out.

So she’s looking to the other block of people who are paying attention for help, which is western gf. Any help that she would get from them goes out the window when she says that it is logical that their kids get moved. A bite the hand that feeds you type situation.

Oh well, like I said, T&P to her.

There have already been people giving her advice, and they don’t necessarily fall in your convenient buckets. They are just telling her which areas are generally perceived to be at greater risk of redistricting.

I’m sorry if you live in one of those areas and don’t want to be redistricted but anyone who bought that far away from Langley should have known they were taking a risk.

Yep, she should understand she’s taking a risk buying anywhere in Fairfax county. Sucks to be her, or really, anyone who is about to get jammed up by this school board. Or really any Fairfax county resident who is about to see their school system severely diminished in the name of equity.

I am confused about how rezoning is going to address equity. People buy houses where they want to live and where they want to send their children to school. Rezoning will not change that basic fact. People will move. Does anyone actually have real information that this is about equity or is it just paranoia?

And to the lady who is fixated on how the OP says it boundary changes are logical but wants to know how she can get around it: so if she rationalized that the boundary changes are completely illogical (as apparently you have) then she'd be a better person worth giving advice? Whether you think they are logical or not is unrelated to your own interest in where your child goes to school and doing what you can to keep them where you would like them to be.

There are significant transaction costs associated with moving. People will come on here and say they’ll move if they get redistricted because they want the School Board to think that changing boundaries won’t achieve the intended purpose, whether it’s changing the demographics at a school or just trying to change enrollments. But only a fraction of people will be willing to incur moving costs, so they are stuck.

This simply is not true. People use their money to get what they want and this is no exception. Yes, moving sucks, but you move when you are not happy and you can afford it. It's not going to happen in one year, but people will self-organize as they always have. They'll have to keep changing the boundaries.

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Anonymous wrote:We are trying to stay in the Langley pyramid only because we have a child at Cooper who wants to stay with her friends. We have already had quite a bit of disruption for this particular child and need to limit it going forward.

That said, does anyone have thoughts on when we might know the final decisions about potential changes in the pyramid? Are we looking at six months, a year, two years? I really have no idea.

It does seem to me like a logical change, albeit a sad one for many in the Langley community, would be to cut off the western part of Great Falls and Herndon or South Lakes. I personally think that is a likely outcome.

What I do not know is what will likely happen to McLean and the east side of the Langley boundary. For example, there are homes near downtown McLean that are closer to likely than McLean. Will all of these likely stay zoned to McLean?

To be clear, I am not interested in debating the merits of rezoning, and I know that nobody can predict the future. I’m just wondering if anyone with more knowledge about this particular area than me has any thoughts on what may be most likely to happen in the future.

I have significant thoughts and extensive knowledge of that area, but I would never share insight with someone who says that the change is logical.

If you think that the change is logical, good luck figuring it all out. In the meantime, stop trying to buy your way out of the situation.

You’re gross to want to insulate your child at the expense of your neighbors.

This is a weird response. Lots of kids want to stay at the same school.

That didn’t offend me, it’s the poster saying that the move is logical and then asking how she can avoid the consequences for her child.

what are you talking about?? anybody is free to buy a home anyplace they want, at any time, if they want to be in a certain school district. That is probably the #1 factor that families look at when choosing where to buy. I lived in Arlington for years, and then bought my current home in Great Falls because I wanted my kids to go to Langley. People will always make those type of choices, before, during, and after any boundary changes. if you find that gross or offensive, you have issues.

Sure, but again, she just seems preoccupied with her own delicate child and her own situation, while being fine with throwing her daughter’s friends under the equity bus. Go back and read her original question.

I read it and I still can't understand why you have an issue. once the new boundaries are announced, everyone will assess their options (go to the new school, buy a new home zoned for the old school, or go private) and do what is the best fit for their son or daughter. why does that bother you?

Let me reframe it for you. If she is rich enough to be able to afford a McLean home post-divorce, then none of the sjws who have been paying attention will help her out.

So she’s looking to the other block of people who are paying attention for help, which is western gf. Any help that she would get from them goes out the window when she says that it is logical that their kids get moved. A bite the hand that feeds you type situation.

Oh well, like I said, T&P to her.

There have already been people giving her advice, and they don’t necessarily fall in your convenient buckets. They are just telling her which areas are generally perceived to be at greater risk of redistricting.

I’m sorry if you live in one of those areas and don’t want to be redistricted but anyone who bought that far away from Langley should have known they were taking a risk.

Yep, she should understand she’s taking a risk buying anywhere in Fairfax county. Sucks to be her, or really, anyone who is about to get jammed up by this school board. Or really any Fairfax county resident who is about to see their school system severely diminished in the name of equity.

I am confused about how rezoning is going to address equity. People buy houses where they want to live and where they want to send their children to school. Rezoning will not change that basic fact. People will move. Does anyone actually have real information that this is about equity or is it just paranoia?

And to the lady who is fixated on how the OP says it boundary changes are logical but wants to know how she can get around it: so if she rationalized that the boundary changes are completely illogical (as apparently you have) then she'd be a better person worth giving advice? Whether you think they are logical or not is unrelated to your own interest in where your child goes to school and doing what you can to keep them where you would like them to be.

There are significant transaction costs associated with moving. People will come on here and say they’ll move if they get redistricted because they want the School Board to think that changing boundaries won’t achieve the intended purpose, whether it’s changing the demographics at a school or just trying to change enrollments. But only a fraction of people will be willing to incur moving costs, so they are stuck.

Hahahahaaaa. Dumbest thing I’ve read today.

It’s obviously correct but guess it hits too close to home for you.

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Anonymous wrote:We are trying to stay in the Langley pyramid only because we have a child at Cooper who wants to stay with her friends. We have already had quite a bit of disruption for this particular child and need to limit it going forward.

That said, does anyone have thoughts on when we might know the final decisions about potential changes in the pyramid? Are we looking at six months, a year, two years? I really have no idea.

It does seem to me like a logical change, albeit a sad one for many in the Langley community, would be to cut off the western part of Great Falls and Herndon or South Lakes. I personally think that is a likely outcome.

What I do not know is what will likely happen to McLean and the east side of the Langley boundary. For example, there are homes near downtown McLean that are closer to likely than McLean. Will all of these likely stay zoned to McLean?

To be clear, I am not interested in debating the merits of rezoning, and I know that nobody can predict the future. I’m just wondering if anyone with more knowledge about this particular area than me has any thoughts on what may be most likely to happen in the future.

I have significant thoughts and extensive knowledge of that area, but I would never share insight with someone who says that the change is logical.

If you think that the change is logical, good luck figuring it all out. In the meantime, stop trying to buy your way out of the situation.

You’re gross to want to insulate your child at the expense of your neighbors.

This is a weird response. Lots of kids want to stay at the same school.

That didn’t offend me, it’s the poster saying that the move is logical and then asking how she can avoid the consequences for her child.

what are you talking about?? anybody is free to buy a home anyplace they want, at any time, if they want to be in a certain school district. That is probably the #1 factor that families look at when choosing where to buy. I lived in Arlington for years, and then bought my current home in Great Falls because I wanted my kids to go to Langley. People will always make those type of choices, before, during, and after any boundary changes. if you find that gross or offensive, you have issues.

Sure, but again, she just seems preoccupied with her own delicate child and her own situation, while being fine with throwing her daughter’s friends under the equity bus. Go back and read her original question.

I read it and I still can't understand why you have an issue. once the new boundaries are announced, everyone will assess their options (go to the new school, buy a new home zoned for the old school, or go private) and do what is the best fit for their son or daughter. why does that bother you?

Let me reframe it for you. If she is rich enough to be able to afford a McLean home post-divorce, then none of the sjws who have been paying attention will help her out.

So she’s looking to the other block of people who are paying attention for help, which is western gf. Any help that she would get from them goes out the window when she says that it is logical that their kids get moved. A bite the hand that feeds you type situation.

Oh well, like I said, T&P to her.

There have already been people giving her advice, and they don’t necessarily fall in your convenient buckets. They are just telling her which areas are generally perceived to be at greater risk of redistricting.

I’m sorry if you live in one of those areas and don’t want to be redistricted but anyone who bought that far away from Langley should have known they were taking a risk.

Yep, she should understand she’s taking a risk buying anywhere in Fairfax county. Sucks to be her, or really, anyone who is about to get jammed up by this school board. Or really any Fairfax county resident who is about to see their school system severely diminished in the name of equity.

This is more fiscal driven than equity driven. The renovation queue is getting longer, they haven't been able to fund the Western HS in a decade, they're fighting a national teacher attrition trend, and there are more and more students in our county needing a variety of special services. Anything that can help reduce costs is going to be welcome.

Um, you lose all credibility when you say that they haven’t been able to fund western high when voters approved site acquisition funds in 2021 and have never shot down money for the school.

And if you truly believe that the democrats are doing this as a cost saving matter, then you’ve drank their kool aid and are just willfully blind.

Site acquisition funds are a fraction of the cost of constructing the school, and bond funds are limited to maintain the county's AAA rating. Most of the funds that will be obtained from the next school bond (2025) will also go towards school renovations, as we are far behind the recommend cycle for maintaining our facilities. Basically there isn't nearly enough money to maintain what we already have, let alone build additional capacity, and this is driving much of the desire to leverage as much of current capacity as possible via boundary change. But go ahead and assume some sort of weird dark conspiratorial alterior motive or whatever.

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Anonymous wrote:We are trying to stay in the Langley pyramid only because we have a child at Cooper who wants to stay with her friends. We have already had quite a bit of disruption for this particular child and need to limit it going forward.

That said, does anyone have thoughts on when we might know the final decisions about potential changes in the pyramid? Are we looking at six months, a year, two years? I really have no idea.

It does seem to me like a logical change, albeit a sad one for many in the Langley community, would be to cut off the western part of Great Falls and Herndon or South Lakes. I personally think that is a likely outcome.

What I do not know is what will likely happen to McLean and the east side of the Langley boundary. For example, there are homes near downtown McLean that are closer to likely than McLean. Will all of these likely stay zoned to McLean?

To be clear, I am not interested in debating the merits of rezoning, and I know that nobody can predict the future. I’m just wondering if anyone with more knowledge about this particular area than me has any thoughts on what may be most likely to happen in the future.

I have significant thoughts and extensive knowledge of that area, but I would never share insight with someone who says that the change is logical.

If you think that the change is logical, good luck figuring it all out. In the meantime, stop trying to buy your way out of the situation.

You’re gross to want to insulate your child at the expense of your neighbors.

This is a weird response. Lots of kids want to stay at the same school.

That didn’t offend me, it’s the poster saying that the move is logical and then asking how she can avoid the consequences for her child.

what are you talking about?? anybody is free to buy a home anyplace they want, at any time, if they want to be in a certain school district. That is probably the #1 factor that families look at when choosing where to buy. I lived in Arlington for years, and then bought my current home in Great Falls because I wanted my kids to go to Langley. People will always make those type of choices, before, during, and after any boundary changes. if you find that gross or offensive, you have issues.

Sure, but again, she just seems preoccupied with her own delicate child and her own situation, while being fine with throwing her daughter’s friends under the equity bus. Go back and read her original question.

I read it and I still can't understand why you have an issue. once the new boundaries are announced, everyone will assess their options (go to the new school, buy a new home zoned for the old school, or go private) and do what is the best fit for their son or daughter. why does that bother you?

Let me reframe it for you. If she is rich enough to be able to afford a McLean home post-divorce, then none of the sjws who have been paying attention will help her out.

So she’s looking to the other block of people who are paying attention for help, which is western gf. Any help that she would get from them goes out the window when she says that it is logical that their kids get moved. A bite the hand that feeds you type situation.

Oh well, like I said, T&P to her.

There have already been people giving her advice, and they don’t necessarily fall in your convenient buckets. They are just telling her which areas are generally perceived to be at greater risk of redistricting.

I’m sorry if you live in one of those areas and don’t want to be redistricted but anyone who bought that far away from Langley should have known they were taking a risk.

Yep, she should understand she’s taking a risk buying anywhere in Fairfax county. Sucks to be her, or really, anyone who is about to get jammed up by this school board. Or really any Fairfax county resident who is about to see their school system severely diminished in the name of equity.

This is more fiscal driven than equity driven. The renovation queue is getting longer, they haven't been able to fund the Western HS in a decade, they're fighting a national teacher attrition trend, and there are more and more students in our county needing a variety of special services. Anything that can help reduce costs is going to be welcome.

BS. If they want to demonstrate some fiscal discipline, the most obvious thing would be to cancel the $80M Dunn Loring boondoggle and put that money to better use.

But they won’t, because they don’t really care about fiscal austerity and Dunn Loring is the pet project of our childless, clueless School Board chair.

More capacity is anticipated to be needed in/around Tysons as it continues to grow in the coming years. The recent experience of Coates and the increased student yield from multi-family housing amplifies this concern.

Might there be a more ideal site in/around Tysons than Dunn Loring? Absolutely.

Might it take nearly a decade to get through the process of acquiring/repurposing land and figuring out design and end up costing significantly more than the Dunn Loring project? Probably.

Do we have that kind of time and is it worth bailing on Dunn Loring in the hope that a better site could be acquired and developed in the greater Tysons area at anything near the same cost? Almost certainly not.

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Anonymous wrote:We are trying to stay in the Langley pyramid only because we have a child at Cooper who wants to stay with her friends. We have already had quite a bit of disruption for this particular child and need to limit it going forward.

That said, does anyone have thoughts on when we might know the final decisions about potential changes in the pyramid? Are we looking at six months, a year, two years? I really have no idea.

It does seem to me like a logical change, albeit a sad one for many in the Langley community, would be to cut off the western part of Great Falls and Herndon or South Lakes. I personally think that is a likely outcome.

What I do not know is what will likely happen to McLean and the east side of the Langley boundary. For example, there are homes near downtown McLean that are closer to likely than McLean. Will all of these likely stay zoned to McLean?

To be clear, I am not interested in debating the merits of rezoning, and I know that nobody can predict the future. I’m just wondering if anyone with more knowledge about this particular area than me has any thoughts on what may be most likely to happen in the future.

I have significant thoughts and extensive knowledge of that area, but I would never share insight with someone who says that the change is logical.

If you think that the change is logical, good luck figuring it all out. In the meantime, stop trying to buy your way out of the situation.

You’re gross to want to insulate your child at the expense of your neighbors.

This is a weird response. Lots of kids want to stay at the same school.

That didn’t offend me, it’s the poster saying that the move is logical and then asking how she can avoid the consequences for her child.

what are you talking about?? anybody is free to buy a home anyplace they want, at any time, if they want to be in a certain school district. That is probably the #1 factor that families look at when choosing where to buy. I lived in Arlington for years, and then bought my current home in Great Falls because I wanted my kids to go to Langley. People will always make those type of choices, before, during, and after any boundary changes. if you find that gross or offensive, you have issues.

Sure, but again, she just seems preoccupied with her own delicate child and her own situation, while being fine with throwing her daughter’s friends under the equity bus. Go back and read her original question.

I read it and I still can't understand why you have an issue. once the new boundaries are announced, everyone will assess their options (go to the new school, buy a new home zoned for the old school, or go private) and do what is the best fit for their son or daughter. why does that bother you?

Let me reframe it for you. If she is rich enough to be able to afford a McLean home post-divorce, then none of the sjws who have been paying attention will help her out.

So she’s looking to the other block of people who are paying attention for help, which is western gf. Any help that she would get from them goes out the window when she says that it is logical that their kids get moved. A bite the hand that feeds you type situation.

Oh well, like I said, T&P to her.

There have already been people giving her advice, and they don’t necessarily fall in your convenient buckets. They are just telling her which areas are generally perceived to be at greater risk of redistricting.

I’m sorry if you live in one of those areas and don’t want to be redistricted but anyone who bought that far away from Langley should have known they were taking a risk.

Yep, she should understand she’s taking a risk buying anywhere in Fairfax county. Sucks to be her, or really, anyone who is about to get jammed up by this school board. Or really any Fairfax county resident who is about to see their school system severely diminished in the name of equity.

This is more fiscal driven than equity driven. The renovation queue is getting longer, they haven't been able to fund the Western HS in a decade, they're fighting a national teacher attrition trend, and there are more and more students in our county needing a variety of special services. Anything that can help reduce costs is going to be welcome.

BS. If they want to demonstrate some fiscal discipline, the most obvious thing would be to cancel the $80M Dunn Loring boondoggle and put that money to better use.

But they won’t, because they don’t really care about fiscal austerity and Dunn Loring is the pet project of our childless, clueless School Board chair.

More capacity is anticipated to be needed in/around Tysons as it continues to grow in the coming years. The recent experience of Coates and the increased student yield from multi-family housing amplifies this concern.

Might there be a more ideal site in/around Tysons than Dunn Loring? Absolutely.

Might it take nearly a decade to get through the process of acquiring/repurposing land and figuring out design and end up costing significantly more than the Dunn Loring project? Probably.

Do we have that kind of time and is it worth bailing on Dunn Loring in the hope that a better site could be acquired and developed in the greater Tysons area at anything near the same cost? Almost certainly not.

Spare us. We know that the Dunn Loring project only exists because spending money on Dunn Loring ensures no school will be built at Blake Lane; that Dunn Loring is surrounded by other elementary schools projected to remain under capacity; that building a school at Dunn Loring will delay or preclude the construction of a school in Tysons for which a site already exists and which would align more closely with the county’s plans for Tysons; that community groups have objected to the Dunn Loring project and been ignored; and that there are far better uses of $80M to address existing overcrowding elsewhere than to squander $80M on this boondoggle.

You must be Frisch or one of his cronies, but you’re totally full of crap.

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Anonymous wrote:We are trying to stay in the Langley pyramid only because we have a child at Cooper who wants to stay with her friends. We have already had quite a bit of disruption for this particular child and need to limit it going forward.

That said, does anyone have thoughts on when we might know the final decisions about potential changes in the pyramid? Are we looking at six months, a year, two years? I really have no idea.

It does seem to me like a logical change, albeit a sad one for many in the Langley community, would be to cut off the western part of Great Falls and Herndon or South Lakes. I personally think that is a likely outcome.

What I do not know is what will likely happen to McLean and the east side of the Langley boundary. For example, there are homes near downtown McLean that are closer to likely than McLean. Will all of these likely stay zoned to McLean?

To be clear, I am not interested in debating the merits of rezoning, and I know that nobody can predict the future. I’m just wondering if anyone with more knowledge about this particular area than me has any thoughts on what may be most likely to happen in the future.

I have significant thoughts and extensive knowledge of that area, but I would never share insight with someone who says that the change is logical.

If you think that the change is logical, good luck figuring it all out. In the meantime, stop trying to buy your way out of the situation.

You’re gross to want to insulate your child at the expense of your neighbors.

This is a weird response. Lots of kids want to stay at the same school.

That didn’t offend me, it’s the poster saying that the move is logical and then asking how she can avoid the consequences for her child.

what are you talking about?? anybody is free to buy a home anyplace they want, at any time, if they want to be in a certain school district. That is probably the #1 factor that families look at when choosing where to buy. I lived in Arlington for years, and then bought my current home in Great Falls because I wanted my kids to go to Langley. People will always make those type of choices, before, during, and after any boundary changes. if you find that gross or offensive, you have issues.

Sure, but again, she just seems preoccupied with her own delicate child and her own situation, while being fine with throwing her daughter’s friends under the equity bus. Go back and read her original question.

I read it and I still can't understand why you have an issue. once the new boundaries are announced, everyone will assess their options (go to the new school, buy a new home zoned for the old school, or go private) and do what is the best fit for their son or daughter. why does that bother you?

Let me reframe it for you. If she is rich enough to be able to afford a McLean home post-divorce, then none of the sjws who have been paying attention will help her out.

So she’s looking to the other block of people who are paying attention for help, which is western gf. Any help that she would get from them goes out the window when she says that it is logical that their kids get moved. A bite the hand that feeds you type situation.

Oh well, like I said, T&P to her.

There have already been people giving her advice, and they don’t necessarily fall in your convenient buckets. They are just telling her which areas are generally perceived to be at greater risk of redistricting.

I’m sorry if you live in one of those areas and don’t want to be redistricted but anyone who bought that far away from Langley should have known they were taking a risk.

Yep, she should understand she’s taking a risk buying anywhere in Fairfax county. Sucks to be her, or really, anyone who is about to get jammed up by this school board. Or really any Fairfax county resident who is about to see their school system severely diminished in the name of equity.

I am confused about how rezoning is going to address equity. People buy houses where they want to live and where they want to send their children to school. Rezoning will not change that basic fact. People will move. Does anyone actually have real information that this is about equity or is it just paranoia?

And to the lady who is fixated on how the OP says it boundary changes are logical but wants to know how she can get around it: so if she rationalized that the boundary changes are completely illogical (as apparently you have) then she'd be a better person worth giving advice? Whether you think they are logical or not is unrelated to your own interest in where your child goes to school and doing what you can to keep them where you would like them to be.

It's a combination of paranoia and opportunistic kneejerk anti-blue partisanship. Even though most folks would agree that concentrated poverty is undesirable, that's really a housing policy issue, which the SB has no real control/influence over. And to some extent concentrating students who need additional services and supports makes the delivery of those services more efficient than if they are spread amongst many counties, so while there may be a certain "diversity is good" sentiment, it's simultaneously pulled against the desire to provide as much support to students in need as possible. I suspect most school board members would say that providing more services to FARMS students concentrated at one school is more in line with the principle of equity than the alternative of distributing those students evenly across schools while then having less services, breaking up communities to "distrubute" the students, and requiring those students to endure longer transit times. If you are unsure, feel free to ask them. I've had these very conversations with two board members so far and feel my read on their sentiment (as expressed above) is genuine.

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Anonymous wrote:We are trying to stay in the Langley pyramid only because we have a child at Cooper who wants to stay with her friends. We have already had quite a bit of disruption for this particular child and need to limit it going forward.

That said, does anyone have thoughts on when we might know the final decisions about potential changes in the pyramid? Are we looking at six months, a year, two years? I really have no idea.

It does seem to me like a logical change, albeit a sad one for many in the Langley community, would be to cut off the western part of Great Falls and Herndon or South Lakes. I personally think that is a likely outcome.

What I do not know is what will likely happen to McLean and the east side of the Langley boundary. For example, there are homes near downtown McLean that are closer to likely than McLean. Will all of these likely stay zoned to McLean?

To be clear, I am not interested in debating the merits of rezoning, and I know that nobody can predict the future. I’m just wondering if anyone with more knowledge about this particular area than me has any thoughts on what may be most likely to happen in the future.

I have significant thoughts and extensive knowledge of that area, but I would never share insight with someone who says that the change is logical.

If you think that the change is logical, good luck figuring it all out. In the meantime, stop trying to buy your way out of the situation.

You’re gross to want to insulate your child at the expense of your neighbors.

This is a weird response. Lots of kids want to stay at the same school.

That didn’t offend me, it’s the poster saying that the move is logical and then asking how she can avoid the consequences for her child.

what are you talking about?? anybody is free to buy a home anyplace they want, at any time, if they want to be in a certain school district. That is probably the #1 factor that families look at when choosing where to buy. I lived in Arlington for years, and then bought my current home in Great Falls because I wanted my kids to go to Langley. People will always make those type of choices, before, during, and after any boundary changes. if you find that gross or offensive, you have issues.

Sure, but again, she just seems preoccupied with her own delicate child and her own situation, while being fine with throwing her daughter’s friends under the equity bus. Go back and read her original question.

I read it and I still can't understand why you have an issue. once the new boundaries are announced, everyone will assess their options (go to the new school, buy a new home zoned for the old school, or go private) and do what is the best fit for their son or daughter. why does that bother you?

Let me reframe it for you. If she is rich enough to be able to afford a McLean home post-divorce, then none of the sjws who have been paying attention will help her out.

So she’s looking to the other block of people who are paying attention for help, which is western gf. Any help that she would get from them goes out the window when she says that it is logical that their kids get moved. A bite the hand that feeds you type situation.

Oh well, like I said, T&P to her.

There have already been people giving her advice, and they don’t necessarily fall in your convenient buckets. They are just telling her which areas are generally perceived to be at greater risk of redistricting.

I’m sorry if you live in one of those areas and don’t want to be redistricted but anyone who bought that far away from Langley should have known they were taking a risk.

Yep, she should understand she’s taking a risk buying anywhere in Fairfax county. Sucks to be her, or really, anyone who is about to get jammed up by this school board. Or really any Fairfax county resident who is about to see their school system severely diminished in the name of equity.

This is more fiscal driven than equity driven. The renovation queue is getting longer, they haven't been able to fund the Western HS in a decade, they're fighting a national teacher attrition trend, and there are more and more students in our county needing a variety of special services. Anything that can help reduce costs is going to be welcome.

Um, you lose all credibility when you say that they haven’t been able to fund western high when voters approved site acquisition funds in 2021 and have never shot down money for the school.

And if you truly believe that the democrats are doing this as a cost saving matter, then you’ve drank their kool aid and are just willfully blind.

Site acquisition funds are a fraction of the cost of constructing the school, and bond funds are limited to maintain the county's AAA rating. Most of the funds that will be obtained from the next school bond (2025) will also go towards school renovations, as we are far behind the recommend cycle for maintaining our facilities. Basically there isn't nearly enough money to maintain what we already have, let alone build additional capacity, and this is driving much of the desire to leverage as much of current capacity as possible via boundary change. But go ahead and assume some sort of weird dark conspiratorial alterior motive or whatever.

Your crowd mismanaged resources by funding projects such as the unnecessary expansion of West Potomac to 3000 when there was space nearby at Mount Vernon, and now you want to atone for that stupidity by short-changing other pyramids and pulling kids out of Langley and McLean to advance your social agenda. Very transparent, but also ultimately self-defeating, as you keep looking for ways to antagonize those who pay the most to fund FCPS.

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Any house within a mile of route 7 needs to go to Herndon. Period.

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Anonymous wrote:We are trying to stay in the Langley pyramid only because we have a child at Cooper who wants to stay with her friends. We have already had quite a bit of disruption for this particular child and need to limit it going forward.

That said, does anyone have thoughts on when we might know the final decisions about potential changes in the pyramid? Are we looking at six months, a year, two years? I really have no idea.

It does seem to me like a logical change, albeit a sad one for many in the Langley community, would be to cut off the western part of Great Falls and Herndon or South Lakes. I personally think that is a likely outcome.

What I do not know is what will likely happen to McLean and the east side of the Langley boundary. For example, there are homes near downtown McLean that are closer to likely than McLean. Will all of these likely stay zoned to McLean?

To be clear, I am not interested in debating the merits of rezoning, and I know that nobody can predict the future. I’m just wondering if anyone with more knowledge about this particular area than me has any thoughts on what may be most likely to happen in the future.

I have significant thoughts and extensive knowledge of that area, but I would never share insight with someone who says that the change is logical.

If you think that the change is logical, good luck figuring it all out. In the meantime, stop trying to buy your way out of the situation.

You’re gross to want to insulate your child at the expense of your neighbors.

This is a weird response. Lots of kids want to stay at the same school.

That didn’t offend me, it’s the poster saying that the move is logical and then asking how she can avoid the consequences for her child.

what are you talking about?? anybody is free to buy a home anyplace they want, at any time, if they want to be in a certain school district. That is probably the #1 factor that families look at when choosing where to buy. I lived in Arlington for years, and then bought my current home in Great Falls because I wanted my kids to go to Langley. People will always make those type of choices, before, during, and after any boundary changes. if you find that gross or offensive, you have issues.

Sure, but again, she just seems preoccupied with her own delicate child and her own situation, while being fine with throwing her daughter’s friends under the equity bus. Go back and read her original question.

I read it and I still can't understand why you have an issue. once the new boundaries are announced, everyone will assess their options (go to the new school, buy a new home zoned for the old school, or go private) and do what is the best fit for their son or daughter. why does that bother you?

Let me reframe it for you. If she is rich enough to be able to afford a McLean home post-divorce, then none of the sjws who have been paying attention will help her out.

So she’s looking to the other block of people who are paying attention for help, which is western gf. Any help that she would get from them goes out the window when she says that it is logical that their kids get moved. A bite the hand that feeds you type situation.

Oh well, like I said, T&P to her.

There have already been people giving her advice, and they don’t necessarily fall in your convenient buckets. They are just telling her which areas are generally perceived to be at greater risk of redistricting.

I’m sorry if you live in one of those areas and don’t want to be redistricted but anyone who bought that far away from Langley should have known they were taking a risk.

Yep, she should understand she’s taking a risk buying anywhere in Fairfax county. Sucks to be her, or really, anyone who is about to get jammed up by this school board. Or really any Fairfax county resident who is about to see their school system severely diminished in the name of equity.

I am confused about how rezoning is going to address equity. People buy houses where they want to live and where they want to send their children to school. Rezoning will not change that basic fact. People will move. Does anyone actually have real information that this is about equity or is it just paranoia?

And to the lady who is fixated on how the OP says it boundary changes are logical but wants to know how she can get around it: so if she rationalized that the boundary changes are completely illogical (as apparently you have) then she'd be a better person worth giving advice? Whether you think they are logical or not is unrelated to your own interest in where your child goes to school and doing what you can to keep them where you would like them to be.

There are significant transaction costs associated with moving. People will come on here and say they’ll move if they get redistricted because they want the School Board to think that changing boundaries won’t achieve the intended purpose, whether it’s changing the demographics at a school or just trying to change enrollments. But only a fraction of people will be willing to incur moving costs, so they are stuck.

Hahahahaaaa. Dumbest thing I’ve read today.

It’s obviously correct but guess it hits too close to home for you.

I am already aware of five housing decisions (selling, walking away from a contract, etc.) in my neck of the woods made based on the mere prospect of being impacted by boundaries.

But sure, do blather on about how only a fraction of people are willing to incur moving costs.

“Sorry Susie, I know we could afford it, and I know we moved here for the schools, and I know there are safety concerns and school quality concerns and you’ll end up with an inferior education, but we just didn’t want to pay for the cost of moving.” - said no parent in the history of the world 🙄

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Anonymous wrote:We are trying to stay in the Langley pyramid only because we have a child at Cooper who wants to stay with her friends. We have already had quite a bit of disruption for this particular child and need to limit it going forward.

That said, does anyone have thoughts on when we might know the final decisions about potential changes in the pyramid? Are we looking at six months, a year, two years? I really have no idea.

It does seem to me like a logical change, albeit a sad one for many in the Langley community, would be to cut off the western part of Great Falls and Herndon or South Lakes. I personally think that is a likely outcome.

What I do not know is what will likely happen to McLean and the east side of the Langley boundary. For example, there are homes near downtown McLean that are closer to likely than McLean. Will all of these likely stay zoned to McLean?

To be clear, I am not interested in debating the merits of rezoning, and I know that nobody can predict the future. I’m just wondering if anyone with more knowledge about this particular area than me has any thoughts on what may be most likely to happen in the future.

I have significant thoughts and extensive knowledge of that area, but I would never share insight with someone who says that the change is logical.

If you think that the change is logical, good luck figuring it all out. In the meantime, stop trying to buy your way out of the situation.

You’re gross to want to insulate your child at the expense of your neighbors.

This is a weird response. Lots of kids want to stay at the same school.

That didn’t offend me, it’s the poster saying that the move is logical and then asking how she can avoid the consequences for her child.

what are you talking about?? anybody is free to buy a home anyplace they want, at any time, if they want to be in a certain school district. That is probably the #1 factor that families look at when choosing where to buy. I lived in Arlington for years, and then bought my current home in Great Falls because I wanted my kids to go to Langley. People will always make those type of choices, before, during, and after any boundary changes. if you find that gross or offensive, you have issues.

Sure, but again, she just seems preoccupied with her own delicate child and her own situation, while being fine with throwing her daughter’s friends under the equity bus. Go back and read her original question.

I read it and I still can't understand why you have an issue. once the new boundaries are announced, everyone will assess their options (go to the new school, buy a new home zoned for the old school, or go private) and do what is the best fit for their son or daughter. why does that bother you?

Let me reframe it for you. If she is rich enough to be able to afford a McLean home post-divorce, then none of the sjws who have been paying attention will help her out.

So she’s looking to the other block of people who are paying attention for help, which is western gf. Any help that she would get from them goes out the window when she says that it is logical that their kids get moved. A bite the hand that feeds you type situation.

Oh well, like I said, T&P to her.

There have already been people giving her advice, and they don’t necessarily fall in your convenient buckets. They are just telling her which areas are generally perceived to be at greater risk of redistricting.

I’m sorry if you live in one of those areas and don’t want to be redistricted but anyone who bought that far away from Langley should have known they were taking a risk.

Yep, she should understand she’s taking a risk buying anywhere in Fairfax county. Sucks to be her, or really, anyone who is about to get jammed up by this school board. Or really any Fairfax county resident who is about to see their school system severely diminished in the name of equity.

I am confused about how rezoning is going to address equity. People buy houses where they want to live and where they want to send their children to school. Rezoning will not change that basic fact. People will move. Does anyone actually have real information that this is about equity or is it just paranoia?

And to the lady who is fixated on how the OP says it boundary changes are logical but wants to know how she can get around it: so if she rationalized that the boundary changes are completely illogical (as apparently you have) then she'd be a better person worth giving advice? Whether you think they are logical or not is unrelated to your own interest in where your child goes to school and doing what you can to keep them where you would like them to be.

There are significant transaction costs associated with moving. People will come on here and say they’ll move if they get redistricted because they want the School Board to think that changing boundaries won’t achieve the intended purpose, whether it’s changing the demographics at a school or just trying to change enrollments. But only a fraction of people will be willing to incur moving costs, so they are stuck.

Hahahahaaaa. Dumbest thing I’ve read today.

It’s obviously correct but guess it hits too close to home for you.

I am already aware of five housing decisions (selling, walking away from a contract, etc.) in my neck of the woods made based on the mere prospect of being impacted by boundaries.

But sure, do blather on about how only a fraction of people are willing to incur moving costs.

“Sorry Susie, I know we could afford it, and I know we moved here for the schools, and I know there are safety concerns and school quality concerns and you’ll end up with an inferior education, but we just didn’t want to pay for the cost of moving.” - said no parent in the history of the world 🙄

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My guess is that the likely move of the western part of Langley to Herndon will not happen in this cycle. It’s not needed yet. In five years after the current residential building in Tysons matures a bit more, then there will probably be a need to move kids out of Langley to Herndon to accommodate that. School Boards like to punt things down the road.

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Anonymous wrote:We are trying to stay in the Langley pyramid only because we have a child at Cooper who wants to stay with her friends. We have already had quite a bit of disruption for this particular child and need to limit it going forward.

That said, does anyone have thoughts on when we might know the final decisions about potential changes in the pyramid? Are we looking at six months, a year, two years? I really have no idea.

It does seem to me like a logical change, albeit a sad one for many in the Langley community, would be to cut off the western part of Great Falls and Herndon or South Lakes. I personally think that is a likely outcome.

What I do not know is what will likely happen to McLean and the east side of the Langley boundary. For example, there are homes near downtown McLean that are closer to likely than McLean. Will all of these likely stay zoned to McLean?

To be clear, I am not interested in debating the merits of rezoning, and I know that nobody can predict the future. I’m just wondering if anyone with more knowledge about this particular area than me has any thoughts on what may be most likely to happen in the future.

I have significant thoughts and extensive knowledge of that area, but I would never share insight with someone who says that the change is logical.

If you think that the change is logical, good luck figuring it all out. In the meantime, stop trying to buy your way out of the situation.

You’re gross to want to insulate your child at the expense of your neighbors.

This is a weird response. Lots of kids want to stay at the same school.

That didn’t offend me, it’s the poster saying that the move is logical and then asking how she can avoid the consequences for her child.

what are you talking about?? anybody is free to buy a home anyplace they want, at any time, if they want to be in a certain school district. That is probably the #1 factor that families look at when choosing where to buy. I lived in Arlington for years, and then bought my current home in Great Falls because I wanted my kids to go to Langley. People will always make those type of choices, before, during, and after any boundary changes. if you find that gross or offensive, you have issues.

Sure, but again, she just seems preoccupied with her own delicate child and her own situation, while being fine with throwing her daughter’s friends under the equity bus. Go back and read her original question.

I read it and I still can't understand why you have an issue. once the new boundaries are announced, everyone will assess their options (go to the new school, buy a new home zoned for the old school, or go private) and do what is the best fit for their son or daughter. why does that bother you?

Let me reframe it for you. If she is rich enough to be able to afford a McLean home post-divorce, then none of the sjws who have been paying attention will help her out.

So she’s looking to the other block of people who are paying attention for help, which is western gf. Any help that she would get from them goes out the window when she says that it is logical that their kids get moved. A bite the hand that feeds you type situation.

Oh well, like I said, T&P to her.

There have already been people giving her advice, and they don’t necessarily fall in your convenient buckets. They are just telling her which areas are generally perceived to be at greater risk of redistricting.

I’m sorry if you live in one of those areas and don’t want to be redistricted but anyone who bought that far away from Langley should have known they were taking a risk.

Yep, she should understand she’s taking a risk buying anywhere in Fairfax county. Sucks to be her, or really, anyone who is about to get jammed up by this school board. Or really any Fairfax county resident who is about to see their school system severely diminished in the name of equity.

I am confused about how rezoning is going to address equity. People buy houses where they want to live and where they want to send their children to school. Rezoning will not change that basic fact. People will move. Does anyone actually have real information that this is about equity or is it just paranoia?

And to the lady who is fixated on how the OP says it boundary changes are logical but wants to know how she can get around it: so if she rationalized that the boundary changes are completely illogical (as apparently you have) then she'd be a better person worth giving advice? Whether you think they are logical or not is unrelated to your own interest in where your child goes to school and doing what you can to keep them where you would like them to be.

It's a combination of paranoia and opportunistic kneejerk anti-blue partisanship. Even though most folks would agree that concentrated poverty is undesirable, that's really a housing policy issue, which the SB has no real control/influence over. And to some extent concentrating students who need additional services and supports makes the delivery of those services more efficient than if they are spread amongst many counties, so while there may be a certain "diversity is good" sentiment, it's simultaneously pulled against the desire to provide as much support to students in need as possible. I suspect most school board members would say that providing more services to FARMS students concentrated at one school is more in line with the principle of equity than the alternative of distributing those students evenly across schools while then having less services, breaking up communities to "distrubute" the students, and requiring those students to endure longer transit times. If you are unsure, feel free to ask them. I've had these very conversations with two board members so far and feel my read on their sentiment (as expressed above) is genuine.

And yet, they are engaged in a boundary review. I used to support more of my tax dollars going to students who need it.

Now I support vouchers.

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Anonymous wrote:We are trying to stay in the Langley pyramid only because we have a child at Cooper who wants to stay with her friends. We have already had quite a bit of disruption for this particular child and need to limit it going forward.

That said, does anyone have thoughts on when we might know the final decisions about potential changes in the pyramid? Are we looking at six months, a year, two years? I really have no idea.

It does seem to me like a logical change, albeit a sad one for many in the Langley community, would be to cut off the western part of Great Falls and Herndon or South Lakes. I personally think that is a likely outcome.

What I do not know is what will likely happen to McLean and the east side of the Langley boundary. For example, there are homes near downtown McLean that are closer to likely than McLean. Will all of these likely stay zoned to McLean?

To be clear, I am not interested in debating the merits of rezoning, and I know that nobody can predict the future. I’m just wondering if anyone with more knowledge about this particular area than me has any thoughts on what may be most likely to happen in the future.

I have significant thoughts and extensive knowledge of that area, but I would never share insight with someone who says that the change is logical.

If you think that the change is logical, good luck figuring it all out. In the meantime, stop trying to buy your way out of the situation.

You’re gross to want to insulate your child at the expense of your neighbors.

This is a weird response. Lots of kids want to stay at the same school.

That didn’t offend me, it’s the poster saying that the move is logical and then asking how she can avoid the consequences for her child.

what are you talking about?? anybody is free to buy a home anyplace they want, at any time, if they want to be in a certain school district. That is probably the #1 factor that families look at when choosing where to buy. I lived in Arlington for years, and then bought my current home in Great Falls because I wanted my kids to go to Langley. People will always make those type of choices, before, during, and after any boundary changes. if you find that gross or offensive, you have issues.

Sure, but again, she just seems preoccupied with her own delicate child and her own situation, while being fine with throwing her daughter’s friends under the equity bus. Go back and read her original question.

I read it and I still can't understand why you have an issue. once the new boundaries are announced, everyone will assess their options (go to the new school, buy a new home zoned for the old school, or go private) and do what is the best fit for their son or daughter. why does that bother you?

Let me reframe it for you. If she is rich enough to be able to afford a McLean home post-divorce, then none of the sjws who have been paying attention will help her out.

So she’s looking to the other block of people who are paying attention for help, which is western gf. Any help that she would get from them goes out the window when she says that it is logical that their kids get moved. A bite the hand that feeds you type situation.

Oh well, like I said, T&P to her.

There have already been people giving her advice, and they don’t necessarily fall in your convenient buckets. They are just telling her which areas are generally perceived to be at greater risk of redistricting.

I’m sorry if you live in one of those areas and don’t want to be redistricted but anyone who bought that far away from Langley should have known they were taking a risk.

Yep, she should understand she’s taking a risk buying anywhere in Fairfax county. Sucks to be her, or really, anyone who is about to get jammed up by this school board. Or really any Fairfax county resident who is about to see their school system severely diminished in the name of equity.

I am confused about how rezoning is going to address equity. People buy houses where they want to live and where they want to send their children to school. Rezoning will not change that basic fact. People will move. Does anyone actually have real information that this is about equity or is it just paranoia?

And to the lady who is fixated on how the OP says it boundary changes are logical but wants to know how she can get around it: so if she rationalized that the boundary changes are completely illogical (as apparently you have) then she'd be a better person worth giving advice? Whether you think they are logical or not is unrelated to your own interest in where your child goes to school and doing what you can to keep them where you would like them to be.

There are significant transaction costs associated with moving. People will come on here and say they’ll move if they get redistricted because they want the School Board to think that changing boundaries won’t achieve the intended purpose, whether it’s changing the demographics at a school or just trying to change enrollments. But only a fraction of people will be willing to incur moving costs, so they are stuck.

Hahahahaaaa. Dumbest thing I’ve read today.

It’s obviously correct but guess it hits too close to home for you.

I am already aware of five housing decisions (selling, walking away from a contract, etc.) in my neck of the woods made based on the mere prospect of being impacted by boundaries.

But sure, do blather on about how only a fraction of people are willing to incur moving costs.

“Sorry Susie, I know we could afford it, and I know we moved here for the schools, and I know there are safety concerns and school quality concerns and you’ll end up with an inferior education, but we just didn’t want to pay for the cost of moving.” - said no parent in the history of the world 🙄

confirmation bias

Sure, if you meant a very large “fraction” in your original post. Which actually good against your original thesis. 🤣