MIT releases post-affirmative action class of 2028 data

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:in 10-20 years most of these institutions will be led by Asian Americans

No, they will be led by Indian Americans. Look at the Silicon Valley.

First of all, Indians are Asians. Second, who are the current leaders of Nvidia, Broadcom and AMD?

Indian American here. I’m not Asian. Sorry. You don’t make the rules for us all.

You can identify as whatever you want. Doesn’t change the fact that in the US, Indian Americans are usually classified as “Asians” in the census, on forms, etc.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Several posters already seem to be uncomfortable with how Asian elite schools are getting and it's still early in the process. Will we see "white flight" out of the ivies?

We can only hope.

Klassy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So no gain in white seats. All the seats previously occupied by URM went to Asians.

This follows what we are seeing on tours. We toured a dozen top20 schools this summer and the tour groups were 75-95% Asian and South Asian.

My kid (mixed race Asian) was completely turned off and we're left wondering what to do. She wants diversity in college.

Why do you care about racial diversity in an elite college like MIT? MIT is supposed only to admit the most talented students in STEM, not political poster children. As clearly shown by MIT's admission data, some of the seats were stolen from Asian students by URM due to unconstitutional affirmative action before the Supreme Court stuck it down.

Because MIT exists in a city/state/nation that is diverse. It educates students that will live, work, and hopefully make positive contributions to a diverse society outside its halls. Because they benefit from research dollars via taxes paid by this diverse community. They receive the opportunity to avoid paying taxes to the diverse community in which it resides. Our colleges and universities in the US do not exist in a bubble.

Nothing was ‘stolen’. That speaks of entitlement. A clear underlying belief based on the comment above.

MIT is supposed to…. According to whom?

+1

MIT decides which students are “best”. And it’s not just based on stats.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:People should read the New York Times piece. It tells a much more flavorful story than just SAT required, black students low score:

Officials said that the change in the composition of the class also had nothing to do with the reinstatement, two years ago, of the SAT as an entrance requirement. Last year’s class, for instance, had the highest proportion ever of students from underrepresented minorities, despite the reinstatement of the test, said Stuart Schmill, dean of admissions.

Mr. Schmill, the admissions dean of M.I.T., blamed a shortage of educational preparation in science and technology.

“Black and Hispanic students are less likely to attend high school where calculus is taught, where physics is taught, where computer science is taught,” he said.

Mr. Schmill said the university, which has emphasized efforts to reach out to students in those communities in the past, will have to redouble its efforts.

Mr. Schmill said the M.I.T. officials did not know whether fewer Black and Latino students had applied this year because they didn’t ask applicants about their race.

What do they teach there?

Not purely academics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So no gain in white seats. All the seats previously occupied by URM went to Asians.

This follows what we are seeing on tours. We toured a dozen top20 schools this summer and the tour groups were 75-95% Asian and South Asian.

My kid (mixed race Asian) was completely turned off and we're left wondering what to do. She wants diversity in college.

Let's be honest, your kid is not desiring "diversity" since Howard is considered "diverse" university. Your kid sounds anti-Asian.

Not surprising since many in our society are brainwashed to become anti-Asian w/o even them becoming aware. Wake up people.

I don't know why you're bringing up an HBCU. What my kid wants is a university that is multi cultural. black/white/Hispanic/Asian/mixed race. If you can't understand this I don't know what to say. If this makes her racist then so be it.

Asian is not a monolith category. It encompasses many countries and races. What is the global population of Asians? Indians alone are 1/5th of the world population. The world economy needs STEM educated, English speaking work force. And since birth rates are falling globally, existing population is aging and leaving the work force, we are at the brink of a labor force crisis worldwide. US is very lucky that it is still attracting the top students from around the world. It may be that you

If you need a "diverse" campus, and that does not include HBCU, then you should go for the mid-western universities. You will find many white students there. The best schools that has less Indians and Blacks usually also have lower academic standards for admissions. Your kid will thrive there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People should read the New York Times piece. It tells a much more flavorful story than just SAT required, black students low score:

Officials said that the change in the composition of the class also had nothing to do with the reinstatement, two years ago, of the SAT as an entrance requirement. Last year’s class, for instance, had the highest proportion ever of students from underrepresented minorities, despite the reinstatement of the test, said Stuart Schmill, dean of admissions.

Mr. Schmill, the admissions dean of M.I.T., blamed a shortage of educational preparation in science and technology.

“Black and Hispanic students are less likely to attend high school where calculus is taught, where physics is taught, where computer science is taught,” he said.

Mr. Schmill said the university, which has emphasized efforts to reach out to students in those communities in the past, will have to redouble its efforts.

Mr. Schmill said the M.I.T. officials did not know whether fewer Black and Latino students had applied this year because they didn’t ask applicants about their race.

What do they teach there?

Not purely academics.

Other schools all have PE, music, art, etc.

[Anonymous]

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Yes, merit-based, race-blind, equal opportunity, fair competition for everyone is the way to go.

Except our society is not either merit-based or race-blind and neither does it provide equal opportunities or fair competition. You have a lot to learn about America.

Yes. Just look at overt discrimination against Asian Americans.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So no gain in white seats. All the seats previously occupied by URM went to Asians.

This follows what we are seeing on tours. We toured a dozen top20 schools this summer and the tour groups were 75-95% Asian and South Asian.

My kid (mixed race Asian) was completely turned off and we're left wondering what to do. She wants diversity in college.

That was our experience, too. All the top college tours had many Asians. Good, but not top, schools had hardly any Asians or no Asians in attendance. The Asian obsession with "brand" schools is pathetic imo.

Your selective racist view is pathetic. Do better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:in 10-20 years most of these institutions will be led by Asian Americans

No, they will be led by Indian Americans. Look at the Silicon Valley.

First of all, Indians are Asians. Second, who are the current leaders of Nvidia, Broadcom and AMD?

Indian American here. I’m not Asian. Sorry. You don’t make the rules for us all.

What are you then? White?
You don’t make rules.

Aryan.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People should read the New York Times piece. It tells a much more flavorful story than just SAT required, black students low score:

Officials said that the change in the composition of the class also had nothing to do with the reinstatement, two years ago, of the SAT as an entrance requirement. Last year’s class, for instance, had the highest proportion ever of students from underrepresented minorities, despite the reinstatement of the test, said Stuart Schmill, dean of admissions.

Mr. Schmill, the admissions dean of M.I.T., blamed a shortage of educational preparation in science and technology.

“Black and Hispanic students are less likely to attend high school where calculus is taught, where physics is taught, where computer science is taught,” he said.

Mr. Schmill said the university, which has emphasized efforts to reach out to students in those communities in the past, will have to redouble its efforts.

Mr. Schmill said the M.I.T. officials did not know whether fewer Black and Latino students had applied this year because they didn’t ask applicants about their race.

What do they teach there?

Not purely academics.

Other schools all have PE, music, art, etc.

Even within STEM they are looking beyond academics. They value creativity, leadership, and innovation. None of which are measured by standardized tests.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So no gain in white seats. All the seats previously occupied by URM went to Asians.

This follows what we are seeing on tours. We toured a dozen top20 schools this summer and the tour groups were 75-95% Asian and South Asian.

My kid (mixed race Asian) was completely turned off and we're left wondering what to do. She wants diversity in college.

Let's be honest, your kid is not desiring "diversity" since Howard is considered "diverse" university. Your kid sounds anti-Asian.

Not surprising since many in our society are brainwashed to become anti-Asian w/o even them becoming aware. Wake up people.

I don't know why you're bringing up an HBCU. What my kid wants is a university that is multi cultural. black/white/Hispanic/Asian/mixed race. If you can't understand this I don't know what to say. If this makes her racist then so be it.

Asian is not a monolith category. It encompasses many countries and races. What is the global population of Asians? Indians alone are 1/5th of the world population. The world economy needs STEM educated, English speaking work force. And since birth rates are falling globally, existing population is aging and leaving the work force, we are at the brink of a labor force crisis worldwide. US is very lucky that it is still attracting the top students from around the world. It may be that you

If you need a "diverse" campus, and that does not include HBCU, then you should go for the mid-western universities. You will find many white students there. The best schools that has less Indians and Blacks usually also have lower academic standards for admissions. Your kid will thrive there.

You still seem to struggle with the meaning of “diverse”. Have your kid explain it to you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Several posters already seem to be uncomfortable with how Asian elite schools are getting and it's still early in the process. Will we see "white flight" out of the ivies?

We can only hope.

Look what happened to TJ. Affirmative action in disguise to significantly reduce Asian students in favor of other races. Clear discrimination that is an "inconvenient truth":

Asians face more discrimination (sometimes language difficulties as well) than URMs and still manage to excel and gain admission to top schools and gain employment to top companies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:From the article:

For the incoming class of 2028, about 16 percent of students are Black, Hispanic, Native American and Pacific Islander, compared to a baseline of about 25 percent of undergraduate students in recent years, the announcement said.

The comparison to the class of 2027 was even more dramatic. The percentage of Black students enrolled dropped to 5 percent from 15 percent, and the percentage of Hispanic and Latino students dropped to 11 percent from 16 percent. White students made up 37 percent of the new class, compared to 38 percent last year.

The percentage of Asian American students in the class rose to 47 percent from 40 percent.

Not surprising. Class of 2027 was the most difficult year for unhooked asians and whites, as MIT and the ivies scooped up URMs to boost the 4yr average with one last cycle it was allowed. The ivy send off photos tell the story, 2028 compared to 2027. My 2027 was lucky. Glad to see the illegal bias against two races has decreased

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:in 10-20 years most of these institutions will be led by Asian Americans

No, they will be led by Indian Americans. Look at the Silicon Valley.

First of all, Indians are Asians. Second, who are the current leaders of Nvidia, Broadcom and AMD?

Indian American here. I’m not Asian. Sorry. You don’t make the rules for us all.

Even Indians do not want to be classified as Asians since they can see how Asians are treated in this great country.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So no gain in white seats. All the seats previously occupied by URM went to Asians.

This follows what we are seeing on tours. We toured a dozen top20 schools this summer and the tour groups were 75-95% Asian and South Asian.

My kid (mixed race Asian) was completely turned off and we're left wondering what to do. She wants diversity in college.

That was our experience, too. All the top college tours had many Asians. Good, but not top, schools had hardly any Asians or no Asians in attendance. The Asian obsession with "brand" schools is pathetic imo.

It's the rich Whites who are most obsessed with 'brand'.
The whole college system was created as country clubs for rich Whites in the beginning.

Look how far they go. They pay multi-millions to send their kids to a brand school and also even cheat if they don't want to pay multi-millions.

Most of them are rich Whites.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varsity_Blues_scandal