MIT releases post-affirmative action class of 2028 data

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So no gain in white seats. All the seats previously occupied by URM went to Asians.

This follows what we are seeing on tours. We toured a dozen top20 schools this summer and the tour groups were 75-95% Asian and South Asian.

My kid (mixed race Asian) was completely turned off and we're left wondering what to do. She wants diversity in college.

That was our experience, too. All the top college tours had many Asians. Good, but not top, schools had hardly any Asians or no Asians in attendance. The Asian obsession with "brand" schools is pathetic imo.

It's the rich Whites who are most obsessed with 'brand'.
The whole college system was created as country clubs for rich Whites in the beginning.

Look how far they go. They pay multi-millions to send their kids to a brand school and also even cheat if they don't want to pay multi-millions.

Most of them are rich Whites.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varsity_Blues_scandal

I think the poster who posted about being turned off by seeing Asians is getting the proper response they justly deserve.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:in 10-20 years most of these institutions will be led by Asian Americans

No, they will be led by Indian Americans. Look at the Silicon Valley.

First of all, Indians are Asians. Second, who are the current leaders of Nvidia, Broadcom and AMD?

Indian American here. I’m not Asian. Sorry. You don’t make the rules for us all.

What? Also an Indian American, and we're definitely Asian; I don't think I've ever heard anyone with ancestry in Asia (whether that be East, Southeast, or South Asian) ever dispute that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:in 10-20 years most of these institutions will be led by Asian Americans

No, they will be led by Indian Americans. Look at the Silicon Valley.

First of all, Indians are Asians. Second, who are the current leaders of Nvidia, Broadcom and AMD?

Indian American here. I’m not Asian. Sorry. You don’t make the rules for us all.

Even Indians do not want to be classified as Asians since they can see how Asians are treated in this great country.

Wut? Asians are treated with respect in this country because they are correctly perceived as hard-working and law-abiding.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So no gain in white seats. All the seats previously occupied by URM went to Asians.

This follows what we are seeing on tours. We toured a dozen top20 schools this summer and the tour groups were 75-95% Asian and South Asian.

My kid (mixed race Asian) was completely turned off and we're left wondering what to do. She wants diversity in college.

That was our experience, too. All the top college tours had many Asians. Good, but not top, schools had hardly any Asians or no Asians in attendance. The Asian obsession with "brand" schools is pathetic imo.

It's the rich Whites who are most obsessed with 'brand'.
The whole college system was created as country clubs for rich Whites in the beginning.

Look how far they go. They pay multi-millions to send their kids to a brand school and also even cheat if they don't want to pay multi-millions.

Most of them are rich Whites.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varsity_Blues_scandal

You think they didn’t know that already? They’re just mud-slinging. Typical white racist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So no gain in white seats. All the seats previously occupied by URM went to Asians.

This follows what we are seeing on tours. We toured a dozen top20 schools this summer and the tour groups were 75-95% Asian and South Asian.

My kid (mixed race Asian) was completely turned off and we're left wondering what to do. She wants diversity in college.

How is this not a racist sentiment? I also have a mixed race half Asian kid who looks more Asian than white. My best friend's kid looks more white than Asian. Culturally they are nearly identical. But if you go on a college tour and see lots of kids like mine, you're turned off, but if you see kids who look like my friend's kid, you're satisfied. You know nothing about the culture or attitude these kids possess but are judging them off their skin color. You of all people should know that there are many cultural differences between 1st, 2nd, 3rd gen+ Asians, and that even if you look within the scope of all people who are ethnically Asian, you would have an extremely diverse set of attitudes and experiences. Not to mention the fact that "Asians" represent a diverse set of countries and cultures.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sure the FAFSA mess played a big part in this.

What mess?

FAFSA was a disaster this year. At the Lower level colleges, it decimated the amount of students who are first gen or low income who then attended to college, since students could not commit to colleges without financial aid offers.

Parents were posting in our school's fb page last week that they were still waiting on final financial aide awards.

One parent posted that their award came in last month so much lower than the estimates, that their kid was going to have drop the school if their appeal failed.

Financial aid was a disaster this year. Whatever company won the government contract to rework the FAFSA application should be banned from all future government contracts, and have the current contract revoked.

It was that bad and like prevented hundreds of thousands of low income students from accessing aid.

Any company that fails so gloriously should be blacklisted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:From the article:

For the incoming class of 2028, about 16 percent of students are Black, Hispanic, Native American and Pacific Islander, compared to a baseline of about 25 percent of undergraduate students in recent years, the announcement said.

The comparison to the class of 2027 was even more dramatic. The percentage of Black students enrolled dropped to 5 percent from 15 percent, and the percentage of Hispanic and Latino students dropped to 11 percent from 16 percent. White students made up 37 percent of the new class, compared to 38 percent last year.

The percentage of Asian American students in the class rose to 47 percent from 40 percent.

Why does one set of these numbers equal 100% and the other 109%?

15 to 5
16 to 11
38 to 37
40 to 47
109 to 100

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:in 10-20 years most of these institutions will be led by Asian Americans

No, they will be led by Indian Americans. Look at the Silicon Valley.

First of all, Indians are Asians. Second, who are the current leaders of Nvidia, Broadcom and AMD?

Indian American here. I’m not Asian. Sorry. You don’t make the rules for us all.

Even Indians do not want to be classified as Asians since they can see how Asians are treated in this great country.

Wut? Asians are treated with respect in this country because they are correctly perceived as hard-working and law-abiding.

Don’t try to present facts that interfere with PP’s victimized narrative.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:in 10-20 years most of these institutions will be led by Asian Americans

No, they will be led by Indian Americans. Look at the Silicon Valley.

First of all, Indians are Asians. Second, who are the current leaders of Nvidia, Broadcom and AMD?

Indian American here. I’m not Asian. Sorry. You don’t make the rules for us all.

Even Indians do not want to be classified as Asians since they can see how Asians are treated in this great country.

Wut? Asians are treated with respect in this country because they are correctly perceived as hard-working and law-abiding.

What?
You’re systematically put down (such as affirmative action) because you’re respected?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Several posters already seem to be uncomfortable with how Asian elite schools are getting and it's still early in the process. Will we see "white flight" out of the ivies?

We can only hope.

Look what happened to TJ. Affirmative action in disguise to significantly reduce Asian students in favor of other races. Clear discrimination that is an "inconvenient truth":

Asians face more discrimination (sometimes language difficulties as well) than URMs and still manage to excel and gain admission to top schools and gain employment to top companies.

It clearly is NOT discrimination.

It wasn’t about reducing the number of Asian students, it was about expanding access to more kids from across the county. Which is why they ADDED seats for this expanded access.

Asian students still make up the majority of students and are accepted at a higher rate than other groups. And, in fact, there are MORE Asian students at TJ since the admissions change than almost any other year in the school’s history.

The number of Asian students enrolled at TJ by school year (fall):


Acceptance rates (class of 2025):
Asian 19%
Black 14% (5% lower)
Multiracial/Other* 13% (6% lower)
Hispanic 21%
White 17%

Plus, the court decided it wasn’t discrimination.
https://www.ca4.uscourts.gov/opinions/221280.P.pdf
Pg 7
“we are satisfied that the challenged admissions policy does not disparately impact Asian American students”

And the SCOTUS left ruling in place:
https://virginiamercury.com/2024/02/20/supreme-court-wont-hear-thomas-jefferson-admissions-case/

On average, classes have ~60 more URMs, which was a huge % increase, more than 200% jump.



More importantly, we’ve seen representation from all middle schools and kids from lower-income families. In fact, per the courts, the students who benefited the most were Asian from low-income families.

TJ is not just a school for wealthy kids from feeder schools. Or wealthy kids who gained an unfair advantage because their families could afford to get access to previous test questions on an NDA-protected test.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Several posters already seem to be uncomfortable with how Asian elite schools are getting and it's still early in the process. Will we see "white flight" out of the ivies?

We can only hope.

Look what happened to TJ. Affirmative action in disguise to significantly reduce Asian students in favor of other races. Clear discrimination that is an "inconvenient truth":

Asians face more discrimination (sometimes language difficulties as well) than URMs and still manage to excel and gain admission to top schools and gain employment to top companies.

It clearly is NOT discrimination.

It wasn’t about reducing the number of Asian students, it was about expanding access to more kids from across the county. Which is why they ADDED seats for this expanded access.

Asian students still make up the majority of students and are accepted at a higher rate than other groups. And, in fact, there are MORE Asian students at TJ since the admissions change than almost any other year in the school’s history.

The number of Asian students enrolled at TJ by school year (fall):


Acceptance rates (class of 2025):
Asian 19%
Black 14% (5% lower)
Multiracial/Other* 13% (6% lower)
Hispanic 21%
White 17%

Plus, the court decided it wasn’t discrimination.
https://www.ca4.uscourts.gov/opinions/221280.P.pdf
Pg 7
“we are satisfied that the challenged admissions policy does not disparately impact Asian American students”

And the SCOTUS left ruling in place:
https://virginiamercury.com/2024/02/20/supreme-court-wont-hear-thomas-jefferson-admissions-case/

On average, classes have ~60 more URMs, which was a huge % increase, more than 200% jump.



More importantly, we’ve seen representation from all middle schools and kids from lower-income families. In fact, per the courts, the students who benefited the most were Asian from low-income families.

TJ is not just a school for wealthy kids from feeder schools. Or wealthy kids who gained an unfair advantage because their families could afford to get access to previous test questions on an NDA-protected test.

You don’t sound very smart or you’re just evil. Did you purposely forget to look at the percentage of each race?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Several posters already seem to be uncomfortable with how Asian elite schools are getting and it's still early in the process. Will we see "white flight" out of the ivies?

We can only hope.

Look what happened to TJ. Affirmative action in disguise to significantly reduce Asian students in favor of other races. Clear discrimination that is an "inconvenient truth":

Asians face more discrimination (sometimes language difficulties as well) than URMs and still manage to excel and gain admission to top schools and gain employment to top companies.

It clearly is NOT discrimination.

It wasn’t about reducing the number of Asian students, it was about expanding access to more kids from across the county. Which is why they ADDED seats for this expanded access.

Asian students still make up the majority of students and are accepted at a higher rate than other groups. And, in fact, there are MORE Asian students at TJ since the admissions change than almost any other year in the school’s history.

The number of Asian students enrolled at TJ by school year (fall):


Acceptance rates (class of 2025):
Asian 19%
Black 14% (5% lower)
Multiracial/Other* 13% (6% lower)
Hispanic 21%
White 17%

Plus, the court decided it wasn’t discrimination.
https://www.ca4.uscourts.gov/opinions/221280.P.pdf
Pg 7
“we are satisfied that the challenged admissions policy does not disparately impact Asian American students”

And the SCOTUS left ruling in place:
https://virginiamercury.com/2024/02/20/supreme-court-wont-hear-thomas-jefferson-admissions-case/

On average, classes have ~60 more URMs, which was a huge % increase, more than 200% jump.



More importantly, we’ve seen representation from all middle schools and kids from lower-income families. In fact, per the courts, the students who benefited the most were Asian from low-income families.

TJ is not just a school for wealthy kids from feeder schools. Or wealthy kids who gained an unfair advantage because their families could afford to get access to previous test questions on an NDA-protected test.

You don’t sound very smart or you’re just evil. Did you purposely forget to look at the percentage of each race?

That one way to respond when the numbers aren't on your side

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Several posters already seem to be uncomfortable with how Asian elite schools are getting and it's still early in the process. Will we see "white flight" out of the ivies?

We can only hope.

Look what happened to TJ. Affirmative action in disguise to significantly reduce Asian students in favor of other races. Clear discrimination that is an "inconvenient truth":

Asians face more discrimination (sometimes language difficulties as well) than URMs and still manage to excel and gain admission to top schools and gain employment to top companies.

It clearly is NOT discrimination.

It wasn’t about reducing the number of Asian students, it was about expanding access to more kids from across the county. Which is why they ADDED seats for this expanded access.

Asian students still make up the majority of students and are accepted at a higher rate than other groups. And, in fact, there are MORE Asian students at TJ since the admissions change than almost any other year in the school’s history.

The number of Asian students enrolled at TJ by school year (fall):


Acceptance rates (class of 2025):
Asian 19%
Black 14% (5% lower)
Multiracial/Other* 13% (6% lower)
Hispanic 21%
White 17%

Plus, the court decided it wasn’t discrimination.
https://www.ca4.uscourts.gov/opinions/221280.P.pdf
Pg 7
“we are satisfied that the challenged admissions policy does not disparately impact Asian American students”

And the SCOTUS left ruling in place:
https://virginiamercury.com/2024/02/20/supreme-court-wont-hear-thomas-jefferson-admissions-case/

On average, classes have ~60 more URMs, which was a huge % increase, more than 200% jump.



More importantly, we’ve seen representation from all middle schools and kids from lower-income families. In fact, per the courts, the students who benefited the most were Asian from low-income families.

TJ is not just a school for wealthy kids from feeder schools. Or wealthy kids who gained an unfair advantage because their families could afford to get access to previous test questions on an NDA-protected test.

You don’t sound very smart or you’re just evil. Did you purposely forget to look at the percentage of each race?

That one way to respond when the numbers aren't on your side

??
Do you know the percentage numbers? I know for a fact, Asian percentages dropped a lot after the TJ “reform”.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:in 10-20 years most of these institutions will be led by Asian Americans

No, they will be led by Indian Americans. Look at the Silicon Valley.

First of all, Indians are Asians. Second, who are the current leaders of Nvidia, Broadcom and AMD?

Indian American here. I’m not Asian. Sorry. You don’t make the rules for us all.

Even Indians do not want to be classified as Asians since they can see how Asians are treated in this great country.

Wut? Asians are treated with respect in this country because they are correctly perceived as hard-working and law-abiding.

What?
You’re systematically put down (such as affirmative action) because you’re respected?

Asians attend highly selective colleges in numbers that far exceed their percentage of the overall population. In the exact case we are discussing here, MIT, "the percentage of Asian American students in the class rose to 47 percent from 40 percent" - compared to Asians being maybe 7% of the overall population. How the f**k is that "systematically put down through affirmative action"???

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:in 10-20 years most of these institutions will be led by Asian Americans

No, they will be led by Indian Americans. Look at the Silicon Valley.

First of all, Indians are Asians. Second, who are the current leaders of Nvidia, Broadcom and AMD?

Indian American here. I’m not Asian. Sorry. You don’t make the rules for us all.

Even Indians do not want to be classified as Asians since they can see how Asians are treated in this great country.

Wut? Asians are treated with respect in this country because they are correctly perceived as hard-working and law-abiding.

What?
You’re systematically put down (such as affirmative action) because you’re respected?

Asians attend highly selective colleges in numbers that far exceed their percentage of the overall population. In the exact case we are discussing here, MIT, "the percentage of Asian American students in the class rose to 47 percent from 40 percent" - compared to Asians being maybe 7% of the overall population. How the f**k is that "systematically put down through affirmative action"???

Is your brain full of $hit or you’re doing this on purpose? How does that have anything to do with if a group is discriminated or not. Did you not see the fact Asian Americans are subject to much much higher standards than other races to be admitted to top colleges in this country?
Google SCOTUS ruling on Harvard lawsuit.