so sick and tired of gymnastics Olympics coverage

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Anonymous wrote:100% agree OP. Also, why does Simone Biles always get the vast majority of coverage? There are hundreds of other athletes with interesting and inspiring stories.

Because, simply. she is the GOAT. No ifs, why, but about it.

She’s really good, but she lacks the ethereal grace and softness of classical gymnasts.

You mean the waif-like under 16 year old from the Karoly era?

You are putting words in the poster's mouth.

The gymnastics of today is artless and imprecise.

You can:
-call me a terrible person
-say well since I am an athlete what do I know
-call me stupid

And I still stand by what I said.

I take the power and athleticism of today’s gymnasts over the anorexic era.

Why does it have to be power and athleticism with more grace and fluidity. No one is missing anorexia. Stop projecting your BS onto other posters.

There is no doubt that in one sense, Simone is the most athletic and acrobatic of the group. She does the most difficult moves on many of the apparatuses. However, she also is imprecise and artless. It is all power and no finesse.

It's actually for that reason I would love to see Suni Lee win the gold in the individual all around. At these games she seems more fluid and graceful than Simone.

Sorry, meant to say why does it have to be power and athleticism without also having grace and fluidity. Biles does amazing tumbles, but she is herky jerky and misses a lot of her landings. One part of gymnastics is also control. Anyway, not saying she is not great, but for some of us she is not as enjoyable to watch.

Every time I see comments like this I know they’re from someone completely ignorant of the sport. Nobody talks like this about snowboard tricks. You want them to be athletes but on your terms, not the terms of the actual sport. There is so much more to a vault than the stuck landing, but average viewers know so little about preflight, post flight, the block, form in the air, etc that they can’t even assess those things and just focus on a .1-.3 landing step. You sound ridiculous to anyone who knows even a little bit about the sport. Like saying Tom Brady (or trout if you want to do baseball) lacks the flair of Mahomes (or Harper) and isn’t fun to watch.

This. Not understanding that when a gymnast for instance adds a half twist to a vault that results in a blind landing everything about the vault becomes more difficult including the landing. The may need more speed and a better block off the vault in order to get enough height and velocity to complete their rotation. They will not be able to spot the floor before landing so must be able to go by feel and aerial awareness in knowing where the floor is and getting their body in position for impact. They must be tighter in the air in order to complete the extra half twist but also know when to adjust their tightness to safely land and cushion their landing using their knees and hips while also maintaining balance. And also landing coming out of a twist results in horizontal torque as you land which is more destabilizing than the rotation created by a flip which can pull you off balance if you over or under rotate but otherwise directs your energy into the ground and is therefore more conducive to a "stuck" landing. I guess if you don't understand all of that then you might watch someone do an insanely difficult and rarely done vault or tumbling pass and yawn at the speed and height and rotation of the skill but then throw a tiny fit in your living room because the gymnast took a small step or hop upon landing.

Apply to be a gymnastics judge at even the lowest level competition with that approach and let us all know how it goes. Even baby gymnasts understand how silly this is.

I'm a committed gymnastics fan, but I get what the first poster is saying. Simone is simply the greatest gymnast of all time. Her technique is incredible and allows her to do things that no one else can do. She deserves all of the attention and accolades that come her way.

On the other hand, her artistry isn't top-notch. And that's fine because, in an open-ended code, the difficulty of her gymnastics makes up for it. Those ethereal athletes of yesterday did simple tumbling passes beautiful. What's amazing about gymnastics today is that is room for different types of athletes and styles. Some have more artistry, and some have more high-flying skills. You don't have to have a starving ballerina body to be the best gymnast in the world. If you don't have the massive tumbling, you can use artistry and dance elements to increase your scores.

If you watch NCAA gymnastics, you will see an emphasis on doing less difficult routines as well as possible. That is fun to watch, but on the other hand, there are no routines that take your breath away like watching Simone launch herself to the rafters and come back down does.

Personally, I’d rather watch some of the NCAA routines. Katelyn Ohashi was a joy to watch. Beautiful execution and looked like she was having so much fun. I wish she had made it into the Olympics.

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Anonymous wrote:100% agree OP. Also, why does Simone Biles always get the vast majority of coverage? There are hundreds of other athletes with interesting and inspiring stories.

Because, simply. she is the GOAT. No ifs, why, but about it.

She’s really good, but she lacks the ethereal grace and softness of classical gymnasts.

You mean the waif-like under 16 year old from the Karoly era?

You are putting words in the poster's mouth.

The gymnastics of today is artless and imprecise.

You can:
-call me a terrible person
-say well since I am an athlete what do I know
-call me stupid

And I still stand by what I said.

I take the power and athleticism of today’s gymnasts over the anorexic era.

Why does it have to be power and athleticism with more grace and fluidity. No one is missing anorexia. Stop projecting your BS onto other posters.

There is no doubt that in one sense, Simone is the most athletic and acrobatic of the group. She does the most difficult moves on many of the apparatuses. However, she also is imprecise and artless. It is all power and no finesse.

It's actually for that reason I would love to see Suni Lee win the gold in the individual all around. At these games she seems more fluid and graceful than Simone.

Sorry, meant to say why does it have to be power and athleticism without also having grace and fluidity. Biles does amazing tumbles, but she is herky jerky and misses a lot of her landings. One part of gymnastics is also control. Anyway, not saying she is not great, but for some of us she is not as enjoyable to watch.

Every time I see comments like this I know they’re from someone completely ignorant of the sport. Nobody talks like this about snowboard tricks. You want them to be athletes but on your terms, not the terms of the actual sport. There is so much more to a vault than the stuck landing, but average viewers know so little about preflight, post flight, the block, form in the air, etc that they can’t even assess those things and just focus on a .1-.3 landing step. You sound ridiculous to anyone who knows even a little bit about the sport. Like saying Tom Brady (or trout if you want to do baseball) lacks the flair of Mahomes (or Harper) and isn’t fun to watch.

This. Not understanding that when a gymnast for instance adds a half twist to a vault that results in a blind landing everything about the vault becomes more difficult including the landing. The may need more speed and a better block off the vault in order to get enough height and velocity to complete their rotation. They will not be able to spot the floor before landing so must be able to go by feel and aerial awareness in knowing where the floor is and getting their body in position for impact. They must be tighter in the air in order to complete the extra half twist but also know when to adjust their tightness to safely land and cushion their landing using their knees and hips while also maintaining balance. And also landing coming out of a twist results in horizontal torque as you land which is more destabilizing than the rotation created by a flip which can pull you off balance if you over or under rotate but otherwise directs your energy into the ground and is therefore more conducive to a "stuck" landing. I guess if you don't understand all of that then you might watch someone do an insanely difficult and rarely done vault or tumbling pass and yawn at the speed and height and rotation of the skill but then throw a tiny fit in your living room because the gymnast took a small step or hop upon landing.

Apply to be a gymnastics judge at even the lowest level competition with that approach and let us all know how it goes. Even baby gymnasts understand how silly this is.

Both of you are being unnecessarily harsh and aggressive in your responses. Many of us understand perfectly what you are talking about and guess what...we still think Biles is lacking in artistry. You are the ones who aren't getting what people are saying. No one is questioning Biles athleticism and that she has changed the sport. But some of us can simultaneously gasp at some of her skills and still bemoan the fact that her artistry is less than. She emphasizes the power part and doesn't have the same grace as some others.

Just because you find her stuff the most fun to watch doesn't mean others can't disagree. Jeez. its the Biles-hive.

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Anonymous wrote:100% agree OP. Also, why does Simone Biles always get the vast majority of coverage? There are hundreds of other athletes with interesting and inspiring stories.

Because, simply. she is the GOAT. No ifs, why, but about it.

She’s really good, but she lacks the ethereal grace and softness of classical gymnasts.

Just say it. You mean she’s not white. Gymnasts have never displayed “softness.”

Oh FFS she means grace. Are you actually implying that black gymnasts can't be graceful or that white gymnasts can't be powerful? Get out of here with that nonsense.

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Anonymous wrote:100% agree OP. Also, why does Simone Biles always get the vast majority of coverage? There are hundreds of other athletes with interesting and inspiring stories.

Because, simply. she is the GOAT. No ifs, why, but about it.

She’s really good, but she lacks the ethereal grace and softness of classical gymnasts.

Just say it. You mean she’s not white. Gymnasts have never displayed “softness.”

Oh FFS she means grace. Are you actually implying that black gymnasts can't be graceful or that white gymnasts can't be powerful? Get out of here with that nonsense.

Thank you. Dominique Dawes would like a word.

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I'm glad it's over.
Simone is good and gets all the coverage but many many scored higher and her floor routine was a train wreck.

It’s not over, because the individual all-around and event finals are still going. And her “train wreck” floor will likely win the gold medal.

In the current scoring system, extreme difficulty trumps execution, which works in Biles’s favor. But the things she can do are amazing!

No way. Not is she performs the same way. No way.

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Haha, OH WELL, OP!

Gold for Simone! Bronze for Suni! And MORE GYMNASTICS TO GO!

By the way, some of us follow gymnastics (including collegiate level) all the time.

I also love figure skating, with its even more subjective judging. I hope skating bugs you, too. And snowboarding and all the other winter sports with subjective judging.

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Anonymous wrote:Haha, OH WELL, OP!

Gold for Simone! Bronze for Suni! And MORE GYMNASTICS TO GO!

By the way, some of us follow gymnastics (including collegiate level) all the time.

I also love figure skating, with its even more subjective judging. I hope skating bugs you, too. And snowboarding and all the other winter sports with subjective judging.

Why is this personal for you and why are you so aggressive at OP? Your ego seeks stoked at what the gymnast are doing. Guess what you are not them.

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Anonymous wrote:Haha, OH WELL, OP!

Gold for Simone! Bronze for Suni! And MORE GYMNASTICS TO GO!

By the way, some of us follow gymnastics (including collegiate level) all the time.

I also love figure skating, with its even more subjective judging. I hope skating bugs you, too. And snowboarding and all the other winter sports with subjective judging.

Why is this personal for you and why are you so aggressive at OP? Your ego seeks stoked at what the gymnast are doing. Guess what you are not them.

Stay bothered! USA! USA! USA!

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Gymnastics scoring has become so much less subjective than it used to be. It's pretty black and white now. It's all broken down by skill and how each skill was executed. There's not really "kind of" hitting a skill. You either hit it perfectly or you don't and lost points.

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Anonymous wrote:Haha, OH WELL, OP!

Gold for Simone! Bronze for Suni! And MORE GYMNASTICS TO GO!

By the way, some of us follow gymnastics (including collegiate level) all the time.

I also love figure skating, with its even more subjective judging. I hope skating bugs you, too. And snowboarding and all the other winter sports with subjective judging.

Why is this personal for you and why are you so aggressive at OP? Your ego seeks stoked at what the gymnast are doing. Guess what you are not them.

Stay bothered! USA! USA! USA!

Not bothered. This isn’t personal.

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Has NBC mentioned the COVID going around the Olympics?

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This whole thread is kind of weird. It's like if someone said "I don't like watching Patrick Mahomes because he runs weird". I mean, like, yeah ok. That's kind of true? But he wins, and it doesn't make people nearly as mad.

And the "subjectivity" of scoring in gymnastics is not as subjective as many think or assume. I am just a casual watcher but I got curious and googled and read about it for a bit and I was really surprised at how formulaic and rigid it is. Honestly, to continue the football analogy, a ref calling where the ball went down is just as subjective. Someone is determining whether or not you met the requirements to achieve a score. It's not like gymnastics judges are just scoring on vibes.

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Anonymous wrote:This whole thread is kind of weird. It's like if someone said "I don't like watching Patrick Mahomes because he runs weird". I mean, like, yeah ok. That's kind of true? But he wins, and it doesn't make people nearly as mad.

And the "subjectivity" of scoring in gymnastics is not as subjective as many think or assume. I am just a casual watcher but I got curious and googled and read about it for a bit and I was really surprised at how formulaic and rigid it is. Honestly, to continue the football analogy, a ref calling where the ball went down is just as subjective. Someone is determining whether or not you met the requirements to achieve a score. It's not like gymnastics judges are just scoring on vibes.

The tiniest details they deduct for are what I am watching to see. Did they pause in a handstand on the high bar? Did two hands block off the vault? Did they cowboy a tuck? Did they achieve at least a 180 split? I love this stuff. I want MORE gymnastics coverage and want it year-round.

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Here you go.
https://olympics.com/en/paris-2024/sports/rhythmic-gymnastics

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Anonymous wrote:This whole thread is kind of weird. It's like if someone said "I don't like watching Patrick Mahomes because he runs weird". I mean, like, yeah ok. That's kind of true? But he wins, and it doesn't make people nearly as mad.

And the "subjectivity" of scoring in gymnastics is not as subjective as many think or assume. I am just a casual watcher but I got curious and googled and read about it for a bit and I was really surprised at how formulaic and rigid it is. Honestly, to continue the football analogy, a ref calling where the ball went down is just as subjective. Someone is determining whether or not you met the requirements to achieve a score. It's not like gymnastics judges are just scoring on vibes.

The tiniest details they deduct for are what I am watching to see. Did they pause in a handstand on the high bar? Did two hands block off the vault? Did they cowboy a tuck? Did they achieve at least a 180 split? I love this stuff. I want MORE gymnastics coverage and want it year-round.

If you want more gymnastics, Worlds will be in October. Do you follow NCAAs? The regular seasons starts in January and there are multiple meets every week through March with the championships in April.