DC Black Upper Class & Georgetown University

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Anonymous wrote:I don't even know OF any UMC black families who are thinking about Duke, and in what world is it ranked higher than Harvard? I went to Penn, and the children of my peers are looking at high profile HBCUs and Ivies.

No one I know of is looking at Duke or Vandy. UVA is as far south as most black folks I know are willing to go UNLESS to go to an HBCU cause racist townies without the nurturing embrace of an entire school administration is suboptimal...

We're an UMC Black family. Duke was a top pick for DC, but after touring this spring it quickly fell off the list. DC has Ivies, HBCUs, a few state flagships, and a couple privates on the list.

Black America doesn't view Duke University the same way the rest of the country views Duke, to black americans, Duke might as well be Harvard South

I assume I’m part of the group the OP references. I’m an attorney (4th generation college graduate/3rd generation J&J, AKA, and Links/my children are private school lifers, etc…).

Duke seems like a fine university, but it’s not aspirational to me. I’ve never thought of it as better than any Ivy. I would even choose Cornell (especially Dyson) over Duke.

Cornell really? Seems pretty miserable unless the goal is to be an Alpha or something.

I'm from the south, first-generation. Duke was everything in comparison to ivies. I didn't really want to go, but I did apply to make my family happy. It was Duke, Howard/Spelman, and whatever HBCU your parents went to.The person saying they don't know any black students going South should actually visit the South where most of the Black American population is. A significant move back south has been occurring the past two decades and black students have moved more and more to schools like Emory than Cornell.

The people who don't see Vandy should know that it has the highest percent of black students in a university class of any top school.

As I said earlier, Duke seems like a fine university—I’m not knocking it.
I can especially see Duke’s appeal for a first-generation college student from the south. As a multigenerational college graduate from CA, Duke doesn’t hold the same appeal for me (or many other similarly situated people that I know). Especially not over Ivies, Stanford or MIT.

Duke is ranked 7th best university in America, higher than Columbia, for black Americans, Duke is a #3 choice behind Harvard, and Yale, but before Princeton and Columbia

Not for the wealthy, educated Black people that I know. You must be talking about regular Black people (first-gen, lower/middle class, and/or relying on financial aid).

Duke gets alot of rich black people

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Anonymous wrote:I don't even know OF any UMC black families who are thinking about Duke, and in what world is it ranked higher than Harvard? I went to Penn, and the children of my peers are looking at high profile HBCUs and Ivies.

No one I know of is looking at Duke or Vandy. UVA is as far south as most black folks I know are willing to go UNLESS to go to an HBCU cause racist townies without the nurturing embrace of an entire school administration is suboptimal...

We're an UMC Black family. Duke was a top pick for DC, but after touring this spring it quickly fell off the list. DC has Ivies, HBCUs, a few state flagships, and a couple privates on the list.

Black America doesn't view Duke University the same way the rest of the country views Duke, to black americans, Duke might as well be Harvard South

I assume I’m part of the group the OP references. I’m an attorney (4th generation college graduate/3rd generation J&J, AKA, and Links/my children are private school lifers, etc…).

Duke seems like a fine university, but it’s not aspirational to me. I’ve never thought of it as better than any Ivy. I would even choose Cornell (especially Dyson) over Duke.

Cornell really? Seems pretty miserable unless the goal is to be an Alpha or something.

I'm from the south, first-generation. Duke was everything in comparison to ivies. I didn't really want to go, but I did apply to make my family happy. It was Duke, Howard/Spelman, and whatever HBCU your parents went to.The person saying they don't know any black students going South should actually visit the South where most of the Black American population is. A significant move back south has been occurring the past two decades and black students have moved more and more to schools like Emory than Cornell.

The people who don't see Vandy should know that it has the highest percent of black students in a university class of any top school.

As I said earlier, Duke seems like a fine university—I’m not knocking it.
I can especially see Duke’s appeal for a first-generation college student from the south. As a multigenerational college graduate from CA, Duke doesn’t hold the same appeal for me (or many other similarly situated people that I know). Especially not over Ivies, Stanford or MIT.

Duke is ranked 7th best university in America, higher than Columbia, for black Americans, Duke is a #3 choice behind Harvard, and Yale, but before Princeton and Columbia

Not for the wealthy, educated Black people that I know. You must be talking about regular Black people (first-gen, lower/middle class, and/or relying on financial aid).

Duke gets alot of rich black people

Ok. What’s your point?

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Anonymous wrote:I don't even know OF any UMC black families who are thinking about Duke, and in what world is it ranked higher than Harvard? I went to Penn, and the children of my peers are looking at high profile HBCUs and Ivies.

No one I know of is looking at Duke or Vandy. UVA is as far south as most black folks I know are willing to go UNLESS to go to an HBCU cause racist townies without the nurturing embrace of an entire school administration is suboptimal...

We're an UMC Black family. Duke was a top pick for DC, but after touring this spring it quickly fell off the list. DC has Ivies, HBCUs, a few state flagships, and a couple privates on the list.

Black America doesn't view Duke University the same way the rest of the country views Duke, to black americans, Duke might as well be Harvard South

I assume I’m part of the group the OP references. I’m an attorney (4th generation college graduate/3rd generation J&J, AKA, and Links/my children are private school lifers, etc…).

Duke seems like a fine university, but it’s not aspirational to me. I’ve never thought of it as better than any Ivy. I would even choose Cornell (especially Dyson) over Duke.

Cornell really? Seems pretty miserable unless the goal is to be an Alpha or something.

I'm from the south, first-generation. Duke was everything in comparison to ivies. I didn't really want to go, but I did apply to make my family happy. It was Duke, Howard/Spelman, and whatever HBCU your parents went to.The person saying they don't know any black students going South should actually visit the South where most of the Black American population is. A significant move back south has been occurring the past two decades and black students have moved more and more to schools like Emory than Cornell.

The people who don't see Vandy should know that it has the highest percent of black students in a university class of any top school.

As I said earlier, Duke seems like a fine university—I’m not knocking it.
I can especially see Duke’s appeal for a first-generation college student from the south. As a multigenerational college graduate from CA, Duke doesn’t hold the same appeal for me (or many other similarly situated people that I know). Especially not over Ivies, Stanford or MIT.

Duke is ranked 7th best university in America, higher than Columbia, for black Americans, Duke is a #3 choice behind Harvard, and Yale, but before Princeton and Columbia

Not for the wealthy, educated Black people that I know. You must be talking about regular Black people (first-gen, lower/middle class, and/or relying on financial aid).

I don't really see your point. Do you have reason to believe first-gen and multi-generation college applicants treat elite colleges differently? It's not a financial reason, since all of these schools would provide for a first-generation student. Why can't it be that you are just on the margins and other black people just agree that Duke is a very strong school for black students?

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Anonymous wrote:I don't even know OF any UMC black families who are thinking about Duke, and in what world is it ranked higher than Harvard? I went to Penn, and the children of my peers are looking at high profile HBCUs and Ivies.

No one I know of is looking at Duke or Vandy. UVA is as far south as most black folks I know are willing to go UNLESS to go to an HBCU cause racist townies without the nurturing embrace of an entire school administration is suboptimal...

We're an UMC Black family. Duke was a top pick for DC, but after touring this spring it quickly fell off the list. DC has Ivies, HBCUs, a few state flagships, and a couple privates on the list.

Black America doesn't view Duke University the same way the rest of the country views Duke, to black americans, Duke might as well be Harvard South

I assume I’m part of the group the OP references. I’m an attorney (4th generation college graduate/3rd generation J&J, AKA, and Links/my children are private school lifers, etc…).

Duke seems like a fine university, but it’s not aspirational to me. I’ve never thought of it as better than any Ivy. I would even choose Cornell (especially Dyson) over Duke.

Cornell really? Seems pretty miserable unless the goal is to be an Alpha or something.

I'm from the south, first-generation. Duke was everything in comparison to ivies. I didn't really want to go, but I did apply to make my family happy. It was Duke, Howard/Spelman, and whatever HBCU your parents went to.The person saying they don't know any black students going South should actually visit the South where most of the Black American population is. A significant move back south has been occurring the past two decades and black students have moved more and more to schools like Emory than Cornell.

The people who don't see Vandy should know that it has the highest percent of black students in a university class of any top school.

As I said earlier, Duke seems like a fine university—I’m not knocking it.
I can especially see Duke’s appeal for a first-generation college student from the south. As a multigenerational college graduate from CA, Duke doesn’t hold the same appeal for me (or many other similarly situated people that I know). Especially not over Ivies, Stanford or MIT.

Duke is ranked 7th best university in America, higher than Columbia, for black Americans, Duke is a #3 choice behind Harvard, and Yale, but before Princeton and Columbia

My perspective isn’t based solely on rank, dear. Princeton has been ranked higher than Harvard College (USNWR) for years. Given the choice, I would not pick Princeton over Harvard. There is an intangible prestige and door-opening effect that Harvard has over Princeton…and always will.

The same applies to Columbia and Duke. I would pick Columbia over Duke, without a second thought or hesitation.

In most STEM fields, this isn't true. Harvard has a significant advantage if your goal is Harvard Law, but just factually most black wealthy students (especially the many immigrant African children who make up most of the Harvard black culture) are not going to Harvard Law. Princeton is better for all STEM subjects, economics, public policy/international relations, and some humanities topics like History. Princeton is academically more prestigious, has one of the fiercest alumni networks out there, and you're sick for making me, a Penn grad, defend them.

Harvard is cool for grad school, but undergrad is really variate and not the focus. Princeton is an undergrad powerhouse.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't even know OF any UMC black families who are thinking about Duke, and in what world is it ranked higher than Harvard? I went to Penn, and the children of my peers are looking at high profile HBCUs and Ivies.

No one I know of is looking at Duke or Vandy. UVA is as far south as most black folks I know are willing to go UNLESS to go to an HBCU cause racist townies without the nurturing embrace of an entire school administration is suboptimal...

We're an UMC Black family. Duke was a top pick for DC, but after touring this spring it quickly fell off the list. DC has Ivies, HBCUs, a few state flagships, and a couple privates on the list.

Black America doesn't view Duke University the same way the rest of the country views Duke, to black americans, Duke might as well be Harvard South

I assume I’m part of the group the OP references. I’m an attorney (4th generation college graduate/3rd generation J&J, AKA, and Links/my children are private school lifers, etc…).

Duke seems like a fine university, but it’s not aspirational to me. I’ve never thought of it as better than any Ivy. I would even choose Cornell (especially Dyson) over Duke.

Cornell really? Seems pretty miserable unless the goal is to be an Alpha or something.

I'm from the south, first-generation. Duke was everything in comparison to ivies. I didn't really want to go, but I did apply to make my family happy. It was Duke, Howard/Spelman, and whatever HBCU your parents went to.The person saying they don't know any black students going South should actually visit the South where most of the Black American population is. A significant move back south has been occurring the past two decades and black students have moved more and more to schools like Emory than Cornell.

The people who don't see Vandy should know that it has the highest percent of black students in a university class of any top school.

As I said earlier, Duke seems like a fine university—I’m not knocking it.
I can especially see Duke’s appeal for a first-generation college student from the south. As a multigenerational college graduate from CA, Duke doesn’t hold the same appeal for me (or many other similarly situated people that I know). Especially not over Ivies, Stanford or MIT.

Duke is ranked 7th best university in America, higher than Columbia, for black Americans, Duke is a #3 choice behind Harvard, and Yale, but before Princeton and Columbia

My perspective isn’t based solely on rank, dear. Princeton has been ranked higher than Harvard College (USNWR) for years. Given the choice, I would not pick Princeton over Harvard. There is an intangible prestige and door-opening effect that Harvard has over Princeton…and always will.

The same applies to Columbia and Duke. I would pick Columbia over Duke, without a second thought or hesitation.

In most STEM fields, this isn't true. Harvard has a significant advantage if your goal is Harvard Law, but just factually most black wealthy students (especially the many immigrant African children who make up most of the Harvard black culture) are not going to Harvard Law. Princeton is better for all STEM subjects, economics, public policy/international relations, and some humanities topics like History. Princeton is academically more prestigious, has one of the fiercest alumni networks out there, and you're sick for making me, a Penn grad, defend them.

Harvard is cool for grad school, but undergrad is really variate and not the focus. Princeton is an undergrad powerhouse.

only 20% of Harvard's black population is black american, at yale it's 40%, at Columbia, it's 30%, at Duke it's 80%

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Anonymous wrote:I don't even know OF any UMC black families who are thinking about Duke, and in what world is it ranked higher than Harvard? I went to Penn, and the children of my peers are looking at high profile HBCUs and Ivies.

No one I know of is looking at Duke or Vandy. UVA is as far south as most black folks I know are willing to go UNLESS to go to an HBCU cause racist townies without the nurturing embrace of an entire school administration is suboptimal...

We're an UMC Black family. Duke was a top pick for DC, but after touring this spring it quickly fell off the list. DC has Ivies, HBCUs, a few state flagships, and a couple privates on the list.

Black America doesn't view Duke University the same way the rest of the country views Duke, to black americans, Duke might as well be Harvard South

I assume I’m part of the group the OP references. I’m an attorney (4th generation college graduate/3rd generation J&J, AKA, and Links/my children are private school lifers, etc…).

Duke seems like a fine university, but it’s not aspirational to me. I’ve never thought of it as better than any Ivy. I would even choose Cornell (especially Dyson) over Duke.

Cornell really? Seems pretty miserable unless the goal is to be an Alpha or something.

I'm from the south, first-generation. Duke was everything in comparison to ivies. I didn't really want to go, but I did apply to make my family happy. It was Duke, Howard/Spelman, and whatever HBCU your parents went to.The person saying they don't know any black students going South should actually visit the South where most of the Black American population is. A significant move back south has been occurring the past two decades and black students have moved more and more to schools like Emory than Cornell.

The people who don't see Vandy should know that it has the highest percent of black students in a university class of any top school.

As I said earlier, Duke seems like a fine university—I’m not knocking it.
I can especially see Duke’s appeal for a first-generation college student from the south. As a multigenerational college graduate from CA, Duke doesn’t hold the same appeal for me (or many other similarly situated people that I know). Especially not over Ivies, Stanford or MIT.

Duke is ranked 7th best university in America, higher than Columbia, for black Americans, Duke is a #3 choice behind Harvard, and Yale, but before Princeton and Columbia

My perspective isn’t based solely on rank, dear. Princeton has been ranked higher than Harvard College (USNWR) for years. Given the choice, I would not pick Princeton over Harvard. There is an intangible prestige and door-opening effect that Harvard has over Princeton…and always will.

The same applies to Columbia and Duke. I would pick Columbia over Duke, without a second thought or hesitation.

In most STEM fields, this isn't true. Harvard has a significant advantage if your goal is Harvard Law, but just factually most black wealthy students (especially the many immigrant African children who make up most of the Harvard black culture) are not going to Harvard Law. Princeton is better for all STEM subjects, economics, public policy/international relations, and some humanities topics like History. Princeton is academically more prestigious, has one of the fiercest alumni networks out there, and you're sick for making me, a Penn grad, defend them.

Harvard is cool for grad school, but undergrad is really variate and not the focus. Princeton is an undergrad powerhouse.

only 20% of Harvard's black population is black american, at yale it's 40%, at Columbia, it's 30%, at Duke it's 80%

I know someone was joking, but Duke and UNC might be the last elite schools left in america that is majority african american

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Anonymous wrote:I don't even know OF any UMC black families who are thinking about Duke, and in what world is it ranked higher than Harvard? I went to Penn, and the children of my peers are looking at high profile HBCUs and Ivies.

No one I know of is looking at Duke or Vandy. UVA is as far south as most black folks I know are willing to go UNLESS to go to an HBCU cause racist townies without the nurturing embrace of an entire school administration is suboptimal...

We're an UMC Black family. Duke was a top pick for DC, but after touring this spring it quickly fell off the list. DC has Ivies, HBCUs, a few state flagships, and a couple privates on the list.

Black America doesn't view Duke University the same way the rest of the country views Duke, to black americans, Duke might as well be Harvard South

I assume I’m part of the group the OP references. I’m an attorney (4th generation college graduate/3rd generation J&J, AKA, and Links/my children are private school lifers, etc…).

Duke seems like a fine university, but it’s not aspirational to me. I’ve never thought of it as better than any Ivy. I would even choose Cornell (especially Dyson) over Duke.

Cornell really? Seems pretty miserable unless the goal is to be an Alpha or something.

I'm from the south, first-generation. Duke was everything in comparison to ivies. I didn't really want to go, but I did apply to make my family happy. It was Duke, Howard/Spelman, and whatever HBCU your parents went to.The person saying they don't know any black students going South should actually visit the South where most of the Black American population is. A significant move back south has been occurring the past two decades and black students have moved more and more to schools like Emory than Cornell.

The people who don't see Vandy should know that it has the highest percent of black students in a university class of any top school.

As I said earlier, Duke seems like a fine university—I’m not knocking it.
I can especially see Duke’s appeal for a first-generation college student from the south. As a multigenerational college graduate from CA, Duke doesn’t hold the same appeal for me (or many other similarly situated people that I know). Especially not over Ivies, Stanford or MIT.

Duke is ranked 7th best university in America, higher than Columbia, for black Americans, Duke is a #3 choice behind Harvard, and Yale, but before Princeton and Columbia

My perspective isn’t based solely on rank, dear. Princeton has been ranked higher than Harvard College (USNWR) for years. Given the choice, I would not pick Princeton over Harvard. There is an intangible prestige and door-opening effect that Harvard has over Princeton…and always will.

The same applies to Columbia and Duke. I would pick Columbia over Duke, without a second thought or hesitation.

In most STEM fields, this isn't true. Harvard has a significant advantage if your goal is Harvard Law, but just factually most black wealthy students (especially the many immigrant African children who make up most of the Harvard black culture) are not going to Harvard Law. Princeton is better for all STEM subjects, economics, public policy/international relations, and some humanities topics like History. Princeton is academically more prestigious, has one of the fiercest alumni networks out there, and you're sick for making me, a Penn grad, defend them.

Harvard is cool for grad school, but undergrad is really variate and not the focus. Princeton is an undergrad powerhouse.

only 20% of Harvard's black population is black american, at yale it's 40%, at Columbia, it's 30%, at Duke it's 80%

I know someone was joking, but Duke and UNC might be the last elite schools left in america that is majority african american

Duke University does an excellent job at finding the best and brightest African Americans, with a large amount being UMC black Americans from NY / NJ and North Carolina.... The Ivies are largely lazy, and just want anyone black to boost their diversity numbers

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Anonymous wrote:I don't even know OF any UMC black families who are thinking about Duke, and in what world is it ranked higher than Harvard? I went to Penn, and the children of my peers are looking at high profile HBCUs and Ivies.

No one I know of is looking at Duke or Vandy. UVA is as far south as most black folks I know are willing to go UNLESS to go to an HBCU cause racist townies without the nurturing embrace of an entire school administration is suboptimal...

We're an UMC Black family. Duke was a top pick for DC, but after touring this spring it quickly fell off the list. DC has Ivies, HBCUs, a few state flagships, and a couple privates on the list.

Black America doesn't view Duke University the same way the rest of the country views Duke, to black americans, Duke might as well be Harvard South

I assume I’m part of the group the OP references. I’m an attorney (4th generation college graduate/3rd generation J&J, AKA, and Links/my children are private school lifers, etc…).

Duke seems like a fine university, but it’s not aspirational to me. I’ve never thought of it as better than any Ivy. I would even choose Cornell (especially Dyson) over Duke.

Cornell really? Seems pretty miserable unless the goal is to be an Alpha or something.

I'm from the south, first-generation. Duke was everything in comparison to ivies. I didn't really want to go, but I did apply to make my family happy. It was Duke, Howard/Spelman, and whatever HBCU your parents went to.The person saying they don't know any black students going South should actually visit the South where most of the Black American population is. A significant move back south has been occurring the past two decades and black students have moved more and more to schools like Emory than Cornell.

The people who don't see Vandy should know that it has the highest percent of black students in a university class of any top school.

As I said earlier, Duke seems like a fine university—I’m not knocking it.
I can especially see Duke’s appeal for a first-generation college student from the south. As a multigenerational college graduate from CA, Duke doesn’t hold the same appeal for me (or many other similarly situated people that I know). Especially not over Ivies, Stanford or MIT.

Duke is ranked 7th best university in America, higher than Columbia, for black Americans, Duke is a #3 choice behind Harvard, and Yale, but before Princeton and Columbia

My perspective isn’t based solely on rank, dear. Princeton has been ranked higher than Harvard College (USNWR) for years. Given the choice, I would not pick Princeton over Harvard. There is an intangible prestige and door-opening effect that Harvard has over Princeton…and always will.

The same applies to Columbia and Duke. I would pick Columbia over Duke, without a second thought or hesitation.

In most STEM fields, this isn't true. Harvard has a significant advantage if your goal is Harvard Law, but just factually most black wealthy students (especially the many immigrant African children who make up most of the Harvard black culture) are not going to Harvard Law. Princeton is better for all STEM subjects, economics, public policy/international relations, and some humanities topics like History. Princeton is academically more prestigious, has one of the fiercest alumni networks out there, and you're sick for making me, a Penn grad, defend them.

Harvard is cool for grad school, but undergrad is really variate and not the focus. Princeton is an undergrad powerhouse.

only 20% of Harvard's black population is black american, at yale it's 40%, at Columbia, it's 30%, at Duke it's 80%

That's because Duke is a bunch of athletes.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't even know OF any UMC black families who are thinking about Duke, and in what world is it ranked higher than Harvard? I went to Penn, and the children of my peers are looking at high profile HBCUs and Ivies.

No one I know of is looking at Duke or Vandy. UVA is as far south as most black folks I know are willing to go UNLESS to go to an HBCU cause racist townies without the nurturing embrace of an entire school administration is suboptimal...

We're an UMC Black family. Duke was a top pick for DC, but after touring this spring it quickly fell off the list. DC has Ivies, HBCUs, a few state flagships, and a couple privates on the list.

Black America doesn't view Duke University the same way the rest of the country views Duke, to black americans, Duke might as well be Harvard South

I assume I’m part of the group the OP references. I’m an attorney (4th generation college graduate/3rd generation J&J, AKA, and Links/my children are private school lifers, etc…).

Duke seems like a fine university, but it’s not aspirational to me. I’ve never thought of it as better than any Ivy. I would even choose Cornell (especially Dyson) over Duke.

Cornell really? Seems pretty miserable unless the goal is to be an Alpha or something.

I'm from the south, first-generation. Duke was everything in comparison to ivies. I didn't really want to go, but I did apply to make my family happy. It was Duke, Howard/Spelman, and whatever HBCU your parents went to.The person saying they don't know any black students going South should actually visit the South where most of the Black American population is. A significant move back south has been occurring the past two decades and black students have moved more and more to schools like Emory than Cornell.

The people who don't see Vandy should know that it has the highest percent of black students in a university class of any top school.

As I said earlier, Duke seems like a fine university—I’m not knocking it.
I can especially see Duke’s appeal for a first-generation college student from the south. As a multigenerational college graduate from CA, Duke doesn’t hold the same appeal for me (or many other similarly situated people that I know). Especially not over Ivies, Stanford or MIT.

Duke is ranked 7th best university in America, higher than Columbia, for black Americans, Duke is a #3 choice behind Harvard, and Yale, but before Princeton and Columbia

My perspective isn’t based solely on rank, dear. Princeton has been ranked higher than Harvard College (USNWR) for years. Given the choice, I would not pick Princeton over Harvard. There is an intangible prestige and door-opening effect that Harvard has over Princeton…and always will.

The same applies to Columbia and Duke. I would pick Columbia over Duke, without a second thought or hesitation.

In most STEM fields, this isn't true. Harvard has a significant advantage if your goal is Harvard Law, but just factually most black wealthy students (especially the many immigrant African children who make up most of the Harvard black culture) are not going to Harvard Law. Princeton is better for all STEM subjects, economics, public policy/international relations, and some humanities topics like History. Princeton is academically more prestigious, has one of the fiercest alumni networks out there, and you're sick for making me, a Penn grad, defend them.

Harvard is cool for grad school, but undergrad is really variate and not the focus. Princeton is an undergrad powerhouse.

only 20% of Harvard's black population is black american, at yale it's 40%, at Columbia, it's 30%, at Duke it's 80%

I know someone was joking, but Duke and UNC might be the last elite schools left in america that is majority african american

Duke University does an excellent job at finding the best and brightest African Americans, with a large amount being UMC black Americans from NY / NJ and North Carolina.... The Ivies are largely lazy, and just want anyone black to boost their diversity numbers

Or they might actually prefer African immigrant students. Nigerian immigrant fit it more with the quality British culture of Cambridge. As they were a colony of Britain as well.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't even know OF any UMC black families who are thinking about Duke, and in what world is it ranked higher than Harvard? I went to Penn, and the children of my peers are looking at high profile HBCUs and Ivies.

No one I know of is looking at Duke or Vandy. UVA is as far south as most black folks I know are willing to go UNLESS to go to an HBCU cause racist townies without the nurturing embrace of an entire school administration is suboptimal...

We're an UMC Black family. Duke was a top pick for DC, but after touring this spring it quickly fell off the list. DC has Ivies, HBCUs, a few state flagships, and a couple privates on the list.

Black America doesn't view Duke University the same way the rest of the country views Duke, to black americans, Duke might as well be Harvard South

I assume I’m part of the group the OP references. I’m an attorney (4th generation college graduate/3rd generation J&J, AKA, and Links/my children are private school lifers, etc…).

Duke seems like a fine university, but it’s not aspirational to me. I’ve never thought of it as better than any Ivy. I would even choose Cornell (especially Dyson) over Duke.

Cornell really? Seems pretty miserable unless the goal is to be an Alpha or something.

I'm from the south, first-generation. Duke was everything in comparison to ivies. I didn't really want to go, but I did apply to make my family happy. It was Duke, Howard/Spelman, and whatever HBCU your parents went to.The person saying they don't know any black students going South should actually visit the South where most of the Black American population is. A significant move back south has been occurring the past two decades and black students have moved more and more to schools like Emory than Cornell.

The people who don't see Vandy should know that it has the highest percent of black students in a university class of any top school.

As I said earlier, Duke seems like a fine university—I’m not knocking it.
I can especially see Duke’s appeal for a first-generation college student from the south. As a multigenerational college graduate from CA, Duke doesn’t hold the same appeal for me (or many other similarly situated people that I know). Especially not over Ivies, Stanford or MIT.

Duke is ranked 7th best university in America, higher than Columbia, for black Americans, Duke is a #3 choice behind Harvard, and Yale, but before Princeton and Columbia

My perspective isn’t based solely on rank, dear. Princeton has been ranked higher than Harvard College (USNWR) for years. Given the choice, I would not pick Princeton over Harvard. There is an intangible prestige and door-opening effect that Harvard has over Princeton…and always will.

The same applies to Columbia and Duke. I would pick Columbia over Duke, without a second thought or hesitation.

In most STEM fields, this isn't true. Harvard has a significant advantage if your goal is Harvard Law, but just factually most black wealthy students (especially the many immigrant African children who make up most of the Harvard black culture) are not going to Harvard Law. Princeton is better for all STEM subjects, economics, public policy/international relations, and some humanities topics like History. Princeton is academically more prestigious, has one of the fiercest alumni networks out there, and you're sick for making me, a Penn grad, defend them.

Harvard is cool for grad school, but undergrad is really variate and not the focus. Princeton is an undergrad powerhouse.

Let’s be real, the Harvard name is good in any field. Name a field of study, and you will find someone with a Harvard College degree who excelled in that field.
Y’all can do/say whatever you want. If my child is choosing between Harvard, Princeton, Duke, etc…they’re going to Harvard. Period.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't even know OF any UMC black families who are thinking about Duke, and in what world is it ranked higher than Harvard? I went to Penn, and the children of my peers are looking at high profile HBCUs and Ivies.

No one I know of is looking at Duke or Vandy. UVA is as far south as most black folks I know are willing to go UNLESS to go to an HBCU cause racist townies without the nurturing embrace of an entire school administration is suboptimal...

We're an UMC Black family. Duke was a top pick for DC, but after touring this spring it quickly fell off the list. DC has Ivies, HBCUs, a few state flagships, and a couple privates on the list.

Black America doesn't view Duke University the same way the rest of the country views Duke, to black americans, Duke might as well be Harvard South

I assume I’m part of the group the OP references. I’m an attorney (4th generation college graduate/3rd generation J&J, AKA, and Links/my children are private school lifers, etc…).

Duke seems like a fine university, but it’s not aspirational to me. I’ve never thought of it as better than any Ivy. I would even choose Cornell (especially Dyson) over Duke.

Cornell really? Seems pretty miserable unless the goal is to be an Alpha or something.

I'm from the south, first-generation. Duke was everything in comparison to ivies. I didn't really want to go, but I did apply to make my family happy. It was Duke, Howard/Spelman, and whatever HBCU your parents went to.The person saying they don't know any black students going South should actually visit the South where most of the Black American population is. A significant move back south has been occurring the past two decades and black students have moved more and more to schools like Emory than Cornell.

The people who don't see Vandy should know that it has the highest percent of black students in a university class of any top school.

As I said earlier, Duke seems like a fine university—I’m not knocking it.
I can especially see Duke’s appeal for a first-generation college student from the south. As a multigenerational college graduate from CA, Duke doesn’t hold the same appeal for me (or many other similarly situated people that I know). Especially not over Ivies, Stanford or MIT.

Duke is ranked 7th best university in America, higher than Columbia, for black Americans, Duke is a #3 choice behind Harvard, and Yale, but before Princeton and Columbia

My perspective isn’t based solely on rank, dear. Princeton has been ranked higher than Harvard College (USNWR) for years. Given the choice, I would not pick Princeton over Harvard. There is an intangible prestige and door-opening effect that Harvard has over Princeton…and always will.

The same applies to Columbia and Duke. I would pick Columbia over Duke, without a second thought or hesitation.

In most STEM fields, this isn't true. Harvard has a significant advantage if your goal is Harvard Law, but just factually most black wealthy students (especially the many immigrant African children who make up most of the Harvard black culture) are not going to Harvard Law. Princeton is better for all STEM subjects, economics, public policy/international relations, and some humanities topics like History. Princeton is academically more prestigious, has one of the fiercest alumni networks out there, and you're sick for making me, a Penn grad, defend them.

Harvard is cool for grad school, but undergrad is really variate and not the focus. Princeton is an undergrad powerhouse.

Let’s be real, the Harvard name is good in any field. Name a field of study, and you will find someone with a Harvard College degree who excelled in that field.
Y’all can do/say whatever you want. If my child is choosing between Harvard, Princeton, Duke, etc…they’re going to Harvard. Period.

Mine had this choice and reluctantly dragged his feet across Visitas before swiftly rejecting them. If you can choose between Harvard and Princeton, you don't need to rush to Harvard for the name.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't even know OF any UMC black families who are thinking about Duke, and in what world is it ranked higher than Harvard? I went to Penn, and the children of my peers are looking at high profile HBCUs and Ivies.

No one I know of is looking at Duke or Vandy. UVA is as far south as most black folks I know are willing to go UNLESS to go to an HBCU cause racist townies without the nurturing embrace of an entire school administration is suboptimal...

We're an UMC Black family. Duke was a top pick for DC, but after touring this spring it quickly fell off the list. DC has Ivies, HBCUs, a few state flagships, and a couple privates on the list.

Black America doesn't view Duke University the same way the rest of the country views Duke, to black americans, Duke might as well be Harvard South

I assume I’m part of the group the OP references. I’m an attorney (4th generation college graduate/3rd generation J&J, AKA, and Links/my children are private school lifers, etc…).

Duke seems like a fine university, but it’s not aspirational to me. I’ve never thought of it as better than any Ivy. I would even choose Cornell (especially Dyson) over Duke.

Cornell really? Seems pretty miserable unless the goal is to be an Alpha or something.

I'm from the south, first-generation. Duke was everything in comparison to ivies. I didn't really want to go, but I did apply to make my family happy. It was Duke, Howard/Spelman, and whatever HBCU your parents went to.The person saying they don't know any black students going South should actually visit the South where most of the Black American population is. A significant move back south has been occurring the past two decades and black students have moved more and more to schools like Emory than Cornell.

The people who don't see Vandy should know that it has the highest percent of black students in a university class of any top school.

As I said earlier, Duke seems like a fine university—I’m not knocking it.
I can especially see Duke’s appeal for a first-generation college student from the south. As a multigenerational college graduate from CA, Duke doesn’t hold the same appeal for me (or many other similarly situated people that I know). Especially not over Ivies, Stanford or MIT.

Duke is ranked 7th best university in America, higher than Columbia, for black Americans, Duke is a #3 choice behind Harvard, and Yale, but before Princeton and Columbia

My perspective isn’t based solely on rank, dear. Princeton has been ranked higher than Harvard College (USNWR) for years. Given the choice, I would not pick Princeton over Harvard. There is an intangible prestige and door-opening effect that Harvard has over Princeton…and always will.

The same applies to Columbia and Duke. I would pick Columbia over Duke, without a second thought or hesitation.

In most STEM fields, this isn't true. Harvard has a significant advantage if your goal is Harvard Law, but just factually most black wealthy students (especially the many immigrant African children who make up most of the Harvard black culture) are not going to Harvard Law. Princeton is better for all STEM subjects, economics, public policy/international relations, and some humanities topics like History. Princeton is academically more prestigious, has one of the fiercest alumni networks out there, and you're sick for making me, a Penn grad, defend them.

Harvard is cool for grad school, but undergrad is really variate and not the focus. Princeton is an undergrad powerhouse.

only 20% of Harvard's black population is black american, at yale it's 40%, at Columbia, it's 30%, at Duke it's 80%

13% of black students at duke play sports
That's because Duke is a bunch of athletes.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't even know OF any UMC black families who are thinking about Duke, and in what world is it ranked higher than Harvard? I went to Penn, and the children of my peers are looking at high profile HBCUs and Ivies.

No one I know of is looking at Duke or Vandy. UVA is as far south as most black folks I know are willing to go UNLESS to go to an HBCU cause racist townies without the nurturing embrace of an entire school administration is suboptimal...

We're an UMC Black family. Duke was a top pick for DC, but after touring this spring it quickly fell off the list. DC has Ivies, HBCUs, a few state flagships, and a couple privates on the list.

Black America doesn't view Duke University the same way the rest of the country views Duke, to black americans, Duke might as well be Harvard South

I assume I’m part of the group the OP references. I’m an attorney (4th generation college graduate/3rd generation J&J, AKA, and Links/my children are private school lifers, etc…).

Duke seems like a fine university, but it’s not aspirational to me. I’ve never thought of it as better than any Ivy. I would even choose Cornell (especially Dyson) over Duke.

Cornell really? Seems pretty miserable unless the goal is to be an Alpha or something.

I'm from the south, first-generation. Duke was everything in comparison to ivies. I didn't really want to go, but I did apply to make my family happy. It was Duke, Howard/Spelman, and whatever HBCU your parents went to.The person saying they don't know any black students going South should actually visit the South where most of the Black American population is. A significant move back south has been occurring the past two decades and black students have moved more and more to schools like Emory than Cornell.

The people who don't see Vandy should know that it has the highest percent of black students in a university class of any top school.

As I said earlier, Duke seems like a fine university—I’m not knocking it.
I can especially see Duke’s appeal for a first-generation college student from the south. As a multigenerational college graduate from CA, Duke doesn’t hold the same appeal for me (or many other similarly situated people that I know). Especially not over Ivies, Stanford or MIT.

Duke is ranked 7th best university in America, higher than Columbia, for black Americans, Duke is a #3 choice behind Harvard, and Yale, but before Princeton and Columbia

My perspective isn’t based solely on rank, dear. Princeton has been ranked higher than Harvard College (USNWR) for years. Given the choice, I would not pick Princeton over Harvard. There is an intangible prestige and door-opening effect that Harvard has over Princeton…and always will.

The same applies to Columbia and Duke. I would pick Columbia over Duke, without a second thought or hesitation.

In most STEM fields, this isn't true. Harvard has a significant advantage if your goal is Harvard Law, but just factually most black wealthy students (especially the many immigrant African children who make up most of the Harvard black culture) are not going to Harvard Law. Princeton is better for all STEM subjects, economics, public policy/international relations, and some humanities topics like History. Princeton is academically more prestigious, has one of the fiercest alumni networks out there, and you're sick for making me, a Penn grad, defend them.

Harvard is cool for grad school, but undergrad is really variate and not the focus. Princeton is an undergrad powerhouse.

Let’s be real, the Harvard name is good in any field. Name a field of study, and you will find someone with a Harvard College degree who excelled in that field.
Y’all can do/say whatever you want. If my child is choosing between Harvard, Princeton, Duke, etc…they’re going to Harvard. Period.

Mine had this choice and reluctantly dragged his feet across Visitas before swiftly rejecting them. If you can choose between Harvard and Princeton, you don't need to rush to Harvard for the name.

To each his or her own. You and I don’t need to agree.

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Black students that go to these elite colleges come back messed up, they race racism from the faculty

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Anonymous wrote:I don't even know OF any UMC black families who are thinking about Duke, and in what world is it ranked higher than Harvard? I went to Penn, and the children of my peers are looking at high profile HBCUs and Ivies.

No one I know of is looking at Duke or Vandy. UVA is as far south as most black folks I know are willing to go UNLESS to go to an HBCU cause racist townies without the nurturing embrace of an entire school administration is suboptimal...

We're an UMC Black family. Duke was a top pick for DC, but after touring this spring it quickly fell off the list. DC has Ivies, HBCUs, a few state flagships, and a couple privates on the list.

Black America doesn't view Duke University the same way the rest of the country views Duke, to black americans, Duke might as well be Harvard South

I assume I’m part of the group the OP references. I’m an attorney (4th generation college graduate/3rd generation J&J, AKA, and Links/my children are private school lifers, etc…).

Duke seems like a fine university, but it’s not aspirational to me. I’ve never thought of it as better than any Ivy. I would even choose Cornell (especially Dyson) over Duke.

Cornell really? Seems pretty miserable unless the goal is to be an Alpha or something.

I'm from the south, first-generation. Duke was everything in comparison to ivies. I didn't really want to go, but I did apply to make my family happy. It was Duke, Howard/Spelman, and whatever HBCU your parents went to.The person saying they don't know any black students going South should actually visit the South where most of the Black American population is. A significant move back south has been occurring the past two decades and black students have moved more and more to schools like Emory than Cornell.

The people who don't see Vandy should know that it has the highest percent of black students in a university class of any top school.

As I said earlier, Duke seems like a fine university—I’m not knocking it.
I can especially see Duke’s appeal for a first-generation college student from the south. As a multigenerational college graduate from CA, Duke doesn’t hold the same appeal for me (or many other similarly situated people that I know). Especially not over Ivies, Stanford or MIT.

Duke is ranked 7th best university in America, higher than Columbia, for black Americans, Duke is a #3 choice behind Harvard, and Yale, but before Princeton and Columbia

My perspective isn’t based solely on rank, dear. Princeton has been ranked higher than Harvard College (USNWR) for years. Given the choice, I would not pick Princeton over Harvard. There is an intangible prestige and door-opening effect that Harvard has over Princeton…and always will.

The same applies to Columbia and Duke. I would pick Columbia over Duke, without a second thought or hesitation.

In most STEM fields, this isn't true. Harvard has a significant advantage if your goal is Harvard Law, but just factually most black wealthy students (especially the many immigrant African children who make up most of the Harvard black culture) are not going to Harvard Law. Princeton is better for all STEM subjects, economics, public policy/international relations, and some humanities topics like History. Princeton is academically more prestigious, has one of the fiercest alumni networks out there, and you're sick for making me, a Penn grad, defend them.

Harvard is cool for grad school, but undergrad is really variate and not the focus. Princeton is an undergrad powerhouse.

Let’s be real, the Harvard name is good in any field. Name a field of study, and you will find someone with a Harvard College degree who excelled in that field.
Y’all can do/say whatever you want. If my child is choosing between Harvard, Princeton, Duke, etc…they’re going to Harvard. Period.

Mine had this choice and reluctantly dragged his feet across Visitas before swiftly rejecting them. If you can choose between Harvard and Princeton, you don't need to rush to Harvard for the name.

To each his or her own. You and I don’t need to agree.

Sure, so be tolerant that people can have different ideas than you rather than trying to "be real."