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Or maybe they are not stupid. |
Never knew black people, loved Duke so much |
It's southern and has a good black community. I wouldn't expect much different. |
The Duke and the Harvard stats are pretty much tied, with the edge going towards Duke, that's pretty impressive for Duke, and Columbia being a distant 2nd |
We're an UMC Black family. Duke was a top pick for DC, but after touring this spring it quickly fell off the list. DC has Ivies, HBCUs, a few state flagships, and a couple privates on the list. |
Black America doesn't view Duke University the same way the rest of the country views Duke, to black americans, Duke might as well be Harvard South |
I assume I’m part of the group the OP references. I’m an attorney (4th generation college graduate/3rd generation J&J, AKA, and Links/my children are private school lifers, etc…). Duke seems like a fine university, but it’s not aspirational to me. I’ve never thought of it as better than any Ivy. I would even choose Cornell (especially Dyson) over Duke. |
Cornell really? Seems pretty miserable unless the goal is to be an Alpha or something. I'm from the south, first-generation. Duke was everything in comparison to ivies. I didn't really want to go, but I did apply to make my family happy. It was Duke, Howard/Spelman, and whatever HBCU your parents went to.The person saying they don't know any black students going South should actually visit the South where most of the Black American population is. A significant move back south has been occurring the past two decades and black students have moved more and more to schools like Emory than Cornell. The people who don't see Vandy should know that it has the highest percent of black students in a university class of any top school. |
As I said earlier, Duke seems like a fine university—I’m not knocking it. I can especially see Duke’s appeal for a first-generation college student from the south. As a multigenerational college graduate from CA, Duke doesn’t hold the same appeal for me (or many other similarly situated people that I know). Especially not over Ivies, Stanford or MIT. |
Duke is ranked 7th best university in America, higher than Columbia, for black Americans, Duke is a #3 choice behind Harvard, and Yale, but before Princeton and Columbia |
Black percent of undergraduate students - Class of 2027 Columbia - 20% Harvard - 15% Yale - 14% Duke - 13% |
yup Duke has the smartest black students among the top schools |
My perspective isn’t based solely on rank, dear. Princeton has been ranked higher than Harvard College (USNWR) for years. Given the choice, I would not pick Princeton over Harvard. There is an intangible prestige and door-opening effect that Harvard has over Princeton…and always will. The same applies to Columbia and Duke. I would pick Columbia over Duke, without a second thought or hesitation. |
Not for the wealthy, educated Black people that I know. You must be talking about regular Black people (first-gen, lower/middle class, and/or relying on financial aid). |