Anonymous wrote:I don't know, I saw a posting from a Jack and Jil sect and they showed where the seniors where heading this year and it was mainly HBCUs and 1 going to Georgetown.
who in their right mind is paying $55,000 a year for a DC private, then pay ivy league prices at an HBCU, that is underfunded, where you have to live with mold, rats, and roaches
Just like most of the Ivy League, Georgetown and UVA!
Morehouse / Spelman send more black students to Harvard professional schools than any Ivy League school
The Ivy black grads are getting jobs in IB. They don't need professional school.
Had no idea that you could go straight from undergrad to business school
IB doesn't require business schools. That's kinda the point
Yeah the hbcu students need it. They’re diversity hires for the firm. The Harvard grads don’t.
maybe it has something to do with the fact that Morehouse has produced
U.S. Senator, Nobel Peace Prize laureate, Oscar winner, fortune 500 ceos, board of directors, corporate executives, U.S. Homeland Security Secretary, Surgeon General
All of which doesn't even begin to compare to any of the ivies...
Which Ivy has produced the equivalent of MLK, Jr? Which Ivy has produced a graduate that has a federal holiday named after them? Who has inspired other Civil Rights/freedom movements around the world?
I don't think the college choice has much at all to do with the leader. Bayard Rustin went to Cheney, which isn't that great of a college.
The ivies have definitely graduated civil rights leaders around the world, they've graduated some of the most essential post-colonial leaders in Africa, are you kidding?!
Bayard Rustin made great contributions to the Civil Rights Movement, but MLK, Jr. is THE FACE of the Civil Rights Movement. They are not the same.
No Ivy has produced a SINGLE Civil Rights figure or humanitarian with a stature equal to MLK, Jr. if they had, you would have already named them.
Morehouse has also produced Julian Bond, Spike Lee, Maynard Jackson, Dr. David Satcher, Jeh Johnson, Sen. Raphael Warnock, Howard Thurman, Calvin Butts, Edwin Moses, among many others.
We’re discussing Black people on this thread. Harvard, nor any Ivy, has produced the luminaries that HBCUs, collectively, have produced. Facts, not feelings.
You say Ketanji, I say Thurgood. You say Barack, I say Kamala. 😉
Anonymous wrote:I don't know, I saw a posting from a Jack and Jil sect and they showed where the seniors where heading this year and it was mainly HBCUs and 1 going to Georgetown.
who in their right mind is paying $55,000 a year for a DC private, then pay ivy league prices at an HBCU, that is underfunded, where you have to live with mold, rats, and roaches
Just like most of the Ivy League, Georgetown and UVA!
Morehouse / Spelman send more black students to Harvard professional schools than any Ivy League school
The Ivy black grads are getting jobs in IB. They don't need professional school.
Had no idea that you could go straight from undergrad to business school
IB doesn't require business schools. That's kinda the point
Yeah the hbcu students need it. They’re diversity hires for the firm. The Harvard grads don’t.
maybe it has something to do with the fact that Morehouse has produced
U.S. Senator, Nobel Peace Prize laureate, Oscar winner, fortune 500 ceos, board of directors, corporate executives, U.S. Homeland Security Secretary, Surgeon General
All of which doesn't even begin to compare to any of the ivies...
Which Ivy has produced the equivalent of MLK, Jr? Which Ivy has produced a graduate that has a federal holiday named after them? Who has inspired other Civil Rights/freedom movements around the world?
I don't think the college choice has much at all to do with the leader. Bayard Rustin went to Cheney, which isn't that great of a college.
The ivies have definitely graduated civil rights leaders around the world, they've graduated some of the most essential post-colonial leaders in Africa, are you kidding?!
Bayard Rustin made great contributions to the Civil Rights Movement, but MLK, Jr. is THE FACE of the Civil Rights Movement. They are not the same.
No Ivy has produced a SINGLE Civil Rights figure or humanitarian with a stature equal to MLK, Jr. if they had, you would have already named them.
Morehouse has also produced Julian Bond, Spike Lee, Maynard Jackson, Dr. David Satcher, Jeh Johnson, Sen. Raphael Warnock, Howard Thurman, Calvin Butts, Edwin Moses, among many others.
We’re discussing Black people on this thread. Harvard, nor any Ivy, has produced the luminaries that HBCUs, collectively, have produced. Facts, not feelings.
You say Ketanji, I say Thurgood. You say Barack, I say Kamala. 😉
This is a stretch.
If we're going to talk about Ivy vs HBCUs institutional effect on the black community, there is no real comparison.
Howards, Spelman, Morehouse and Xavier have produced more black law students and med students than the entire ivy league combined.
The 80 HBCUs have done more for black social mobility than the top 100 PWI colleges and universities.
I'm not saying you should turn down Harvard to go to Howard but don't sleep on the HBCUs.
I've always said that if people were really concerned about social justice, they might be better served to focus more on the UNCF than affirmative action or other politically controversial things.
If we really cared enough to put our money where our mouth is, we would have a grant program that paid full FASFA need at HBCUs.
No loans, loans are killing black social mobility.
Anonymous wrote:I don't know, I saw a posting from a Jack and Jil sect and they showed where the seniors where heading this year and it was mainly HBCUs and 1 going to Georgetown.
who in their right mind is paying $55,000 a year for a DC private, then pay ivy league prices at an HBCU, that is underfunded, where you have to live with mold, rats, and roaches
Just like most of the Ivy League, Georgetown and UVA!
Morehouse / Spelman send more black students to Harvard professional schools than any Ivy League school
The Ivy black grads are getting jobs in IB. They don't need professional school.
Had no idea that you could go straight from undergrad to business school
IB doesn't require business schools. That's kinda the point
Yeah the hbcu students need it. They’re diversity hires for the firm. The Harvard grads don’t.
maybe it has something to do with the fact that Morehouse has produced
U.S. Senator, Nobel Peace Prize laureate, Oscar winner, fortune 500 ceos, board of directors, corporate executives, U.S. Homeland Security Secretary, Surgeon General
All of which doesn't even begin to compare to any of the ivies...
Which Ivy has produced the equivalent of MLK, Jr? Which Ivy has produced a graduate that has a federal holiday named after them? Who has inspired other Civil Rights/freedom movements around the world?
I don't think the college choice has much at all to do with the leader. Bayard Rustin went to Cheney, which isn't that great of a college.
The ivies have definitely graduated civil rights leaders around the world, they've graduated some of the most essential post-colonial leaders in Africa, are you kidding?!
Bayard Rustin made great contributions to the Civil Rights Movement, but MLK, Jr. is THE FACE of the Civil Rights Movement. They are not the same.
No Ivy has produced a SINGLE Civil Rights figure or humanitarian with a stature equal to MLK, Jr. if they had, you would have already named them.
Morehouse has also produced Julian Bond, Spike Lee, Maynard Jackson, Dr. David Satcher, Jeh Johnson, Sen. Raphael Warnock, Howard Thurman, Calvin Butts, Edwin Moses, among many others.
We’re discussing Black people on this thread. Harvard, nor any Ivy, has produced the luminaries that HBCUs, collectively, have produced. Facts, not feelings.
You say Ketanji, I say Thurgood. You say Barack, I say Kamala. 😉
This is a stretch.
If we're going to talk about Ivy vs HBCUs institutional effect on the black community, there is no real comparison.
Howards, Spelman, Morehouse and Xavier have produced more black law students and med students than the entire ivy league combined.
The 80 HBCUs have done more for black social mobility than the top 100 PWI colleges and universities.
I'm not saying you should turn down Harvard to go to Howard but don't sleep on the HBCUs.
I've always said that if people were really concerned about social justice, they might be better served to focus more on the UNCF than affirmative action or other politically controversial things.
If we really cared enough to put our money where our mouth is, we would have a grant program that paid full FASFA need at HBCUs.
No loans, loans are killing black social mobility.
Loans are killing everyone's social
mobility. My law school, Harvard, is now $112k a year (x 3). Even UVA Law, in-state, is $106k. My kid is applying but after putting three kids through public college, I don't know how we are going to do this except to take out Parent Plus loans. Merit is long gone at Harvard and very limited at UVA (reserved for URMs). College is too expensive. Law, Business and Med school is too expensive.
Anonymous wrote:I don't know, I saw a posting from a Jack and Jil sect and they showed where the seniors where heading this year and it was mainly HBCUs and 1 going to Georgetown.
who in their right mind is paying $55,000 a year for a DC private, then pay ivy league prices at an HBCU, that is underfunded, where you have to live with mold, rats, and roaches
Just like most of the Ivy League, Georgetown and UVA!
Morehouse / Spelman send more black students to Harvard professional schools than any Ivy League school
The Ivy black grads are getting jobs in IB. They don't need professional school.
Had no idea that you could go straight from undergrad to business school
IB doesn't require business schools. That's kinda the point
Yeah the hbcu students need it. They’re diversity hires for the firm. The Harvard grads don’t.
maybe it has something to do with the fact that Morehouse has produced
U.S. Senator, Nobel Peace Prize laureate, Oscar winner, fortune 500 ceos, board of directors, corporate executives, U.S. Homeland Security Secretary, Surgeon General
All of which doesn't even begin to compare to any of the ivies...
Which Ivy has produced the equivalent of MLK, Jr? Which Ivy has produced a graduate that has a federal holiday named after them? Who has inspired other Civil Rights/freedom movements around the world?
I don't think the college choice has much at all to do with the leader. Bayard Rustin went to Cheney, which isn't that great of a college.
The ivies have definitely graduated civil rights leaders around the world, they've graduated some of the most essential post-colonial leaders in Africa, are you kidding?!
Bayard Rustin made great contributions to the Civil Rights Movement, but MLK, Jr. is THE FACE of the Civil Rights Movement. They are not the same.
No Ivy has produced a SINGLE Civil Rights figure or humanitarian with a stature equal to MLK, Jr. if they had, you would have already named them.
Morehouse has also produced Julian Bond, Spike Lee, Maynard Jackson, Dr. David Satcher, Jeh Johnson, Sen. Raphael Warnock, Howard Thurman, Calvin Butts, Edwin Moses, among many others.
We’re discussing Black people on this thread. Harvard, nor any Ivy, has produced the luminaries that HBCUs, collectively, have produced. Facts, not feelings.
You say Ketanji, I say Thurgood. You say Barack, I say Kamala. 😉
This is a stretch.
If we're going to talk about Ivy vs HBCUs institutional effect on the black community, there is no real comparison.
Howards, Spelman, Morehouse and Xavier have produced more black law students and med students than the entire ivy league combined.
The 80 HBCUs have done more for black social mobility than the top 100 PWI colleges and universities.
I'm not saying you should turn down Harvard to go to Howard but don't sleep on the HBCUs.
I've always said that if people were really concerned about social justice, they might be better served to focus more on the UNCF than affirmative action or other politically controversial things.
If we really cared enough to put our money where our mouth is, we would have a grant program that paid full FASFA need at HBCUs.
No loans, loans are killing black social mobility.
Loans are killing everyone's social
mobility. My law school, Harvard, is now $112k a year (x 3). Even UVA Law, in-state, is $106k. My kid is applying but after putting three kids through public college, I don't know how we are going to do this except to take out Parent Plus loans. Merit is long gone at Harvard and very limited at UVA (reserved for URMs). College is too expensive. Law, Business and Med school is too expensive.
I went in the 1990s and got merit tuition scholarship all the way through but I see tuition has more than doubled since them.
Geez, no wonder 1st year pay is up to $240K.
The place where this really hurts is medical school. Law and mba salaries are keeping up with tuition. Medicine has not.
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