Why did God create pediatric cancer?

[Anonymous]

Most things in life have to do with luck

[Anonymous]

God didn’t because the entire idea of God was created by man as a way to explain why things happen. Must be some someone or something from above.

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Anonymous wrote:If God can’t save an innocent person from suffering, then he isn’t omnipotent, is he? He can’t be both benevolent and omnipotent. The two are mutually exclusive in this case.

Suffering is noble in most religions including Christianity so.. the ones who suffer most on Earth but keep faith alive despite the difficulty usually inherit Gods kingdom in heaven

But why is suffering noble? Why would God create a system that includes it?

And also, even accepting your entire statement above, we are talking about pediatric cancer. Many/most young children are too young to really understand religion well enough to HAVE faith. Isn't that really the whole point of First Communion in the catholic faith and Confirmation in many protestant ones?

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Anonymous wrote:God didn’t because the entire idea of God was created by man as a way to explain why things happen. Must be some someone or something from above.

+1. It's what humans needed in the absence of science.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly, this is one thing that I struggle with myself.

The last church I went to, the pastor was talking about how the way we pray makes a difference, that there're correct and incorrect ways of praying. I broke down right then and there, thinking that I must not have prayed correctly b/c why else did my mom suffer so much from her cancer and die with such agony and indignity. Then I got really angry at the idea that if you pray incorrectly, God will refuse to listen.

I don't know the answer. And I suspect nobody really does.

Let me try.

God doesn't really exist in the way people think and cancer is a chain of events that happens inside the body. God does not give people cancer anymore than God heals people with cancer.

Does God dictate the laws of physics or does God follow then? If God dictates the laws of physics than surely we would see miracles that are exceptions. We don't

But God created cancer. If God wanted to create bodies in which cells didn't mutate, God could have done so - unless you don't believe that God actually has control over everything in the universe? There is no "good" God unless there is also an evil god, who also creates and dishes to humans all the traumas and pains in life.

Ultimately, the evidence is clear - there is no god. Not in any "creator" type sense. No afterlife, no being that actually starts and ends.

So where does pediatric cancer come from?

It comes from a genetic mutation gone awry, which all human bodies are susceptible to. Because that's how God chose to create human bodies (or god doesn't exist, which is more likely).

What a weird answer. The God the who definitely doesn’t exist created pediatric cancer.

OK now you are just being a petulant jerk. You’re embarrassing yourself. Every person can see that is not what PP wrote.

A bunch of people who don’t believe God exists are insisting the non-existent God created pediatric cancer. It doesn’t make any sense. Entities who do not exist do not create or destroy anything.

Many people have already answered this, you are just being purposefully obtuse.

1) Atheists don't believe in god, therefore don't believe god created cancer that kills children.
2) If you do believe in god, and god created everything, then he must have also created cancer that kills children.

Person 1 does not believe what person 2 believes. No atheist thinks a non-existent god created cancer that kills children. You just keep copy and pasting this all over every religious thread and it makes it seem like you can't read properly.

No; evil doesn’t come from God. Evil is an absence of God. Humans have free will.

God had already made the world so no cancer existed. Adam and Eve were not satisfied with that; they decided to disobey God and wanted to be gods. They rejected the pediatric cancer free world which God had graciously already provided for us.

Because we have free will and are not Westworld humanoid robots God created in His lab, preloaded with software that makes it so we like Him. And we aren’t programmed to do what He wants. We have the ability to choose what we do.

K well I want to use my free will to not get cancer, or have my children or family get cancer. Unfortunately that's not how free will works.

We would all love perfect lives. There isn’t a single human being on earth that would choose to be poor or sick.

Free will is how we live our lives no matter how poor or sick or healthy or rich we are. Very wealthy people who are given so much can be terrible people. Poor people who have nothing can be the most wonderful and beautiful souls on earth.

Free will is the capacity or ability to choose between different possible courses of action. It is not choosing to live forever, choosing to not be sick, choosing to win the lottery, etc.

Yes, that is the point PP is making. You just affirmed the point (I assume) you were trying to refute. That stuff is all true, so stop trying to use free will as the excuse for the god you believe in’s behavior.

So you’re one of the “I don’t believe in God, but He gives babies cancer” posters. That doesn’t make any sense. It explains why you are obsessed and miserable though.

Stop being intentionally dense. This has been explained to you multiple times in this thread alone.

YOU BELIEVE IN A GOD THAT INTENTIONALLY GIVES BABIES CANCER. YOU WORSHIP THAT GOD. THAT IS RIDICULOUS.

ATHEISTS DO NOT BELEIVE IN A GOD SO THEY DO NOT THINK HE EXISTS OR CAN GIVE BABIES CANCER. THEY THINK CANCER IS PROBABLY A RESULT OF NATURAL PROCESSES BUT DON’T CLAIM TO KNOW THAT FOR SURE.

NO YOU DO NOT NEED AN ALTERNATIVE EXPLANATION TO REJECT THE EVIDENCELESS CLAIM A GOD CREATED EVERYTHING.

NO I AM NOT OBSESSED OR MISERABLE AND YOUR INSULTS DO NOTHING TO BOLSTER YOUR ARGUMENT. THEY JUST SHOW YOU CAN’T DEFEND YOUR POSITION WITHOUT RESORTING TO THEM. THAT’S WEAK.

There it is again, shouted on purpose so maybe you will hear it this time.

Once again: people who believe in God do not believe God gives babies cancer.

The only people who are insisting that God gives babies cancer are the people who don’t believe in Him. It’s quite illogical.

But he at least allows them to get it. He mostly does not fix it when they do. You would not behave that way if you were god, nor would I. It’s an illogical position, and evidence god likely does not exist.

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Anonymous wrote:If God can’t save an innocent person from suffering, then he isn’t omnipotent, is he? He can’t be both benevolent and omnipotent. The two are mutually exclusive in this case.

So in your view, God should exist to please us? Keep us safe, happy, help us achieve our desires?

I think any objective observer can see that there is something deeply flawed with humanity. We do things we know are wrong. Not just do things that are wrong but we often enjoy doing things that we know are wrong and hurtful to others. We have an internal consciousness but fight it at times. Animals don't do this. Everything in this world follows the "rules" put upon them. Rocks, on earth, will drop because they follow the laws of gravity. Lions are vicious and kill but do not do so for pure enjoyment. anyone would recognize that human evil goes way beyond. It is not a matter of linear progression from the animal world but a totally different plane.

So in this context, do you think God should aim to please us, who are greatly flawed? Any correction from God will feel horrible to us because it is not because God is mean or evil, but because we are flawed. Think of real life. Anything worth achieving requires a huge amount of sacrifice, pain, and sometimes suffering. Those who live a sheltered life often do not gain the wisdom and maturity of those who have been through difficult period of life. This is just how things are.

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Anonymous wrote:If God can’t save an innocent person from suffering, then he isn’t omnipotent, is he? He can’t be both benevolent and omnipotent. The two are mutually exclusive in this case.

Suffering is noble in most religions including Christianity so.. the ones who suffer most on Earth but keep faith alive despite the difficulty usually inherit Gods kingdom in heaven

So it’s like a sick test? Suffer everything I can put you through and if you still believe in me at the end I’ll reward you?

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Anonymous wrote:If God can’t save an innocent person from suffering, then he isn’t omnipotent, is he? He can’t be both benevolent and omnipotent. The two are mutually exclusive in this case.

Suffering is noble in most religions including Christianity so.. the ones who suffer most on Earth but keep faith alive despite the difficulty usually inherit Gods kingdom in heaven

So it’s like a sick test? Suffer everything I can put you through and if you still believe in me at the end I’ll reward you?

That might be a pretty good summary. Remember though that some also thank God for everything good or OK in their lives. Their kid is deathly ill but they have a home to live in, family/friends/neighbors who look out for them. Things like that.

In the midst of her son's third round of cancer my cousin posted a picture of a nice sun rise with the caption "God is good."

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So in your view, God should exist to please us? Keep us safe, happy, help us achieve our desires?

Yes.

That’s what I would do if I were God and loved people. Wouldn’t you? Wouldn’t you heal those children if you could?

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So in your view, God should exist to please us? Keep us safe, happy, help us achieve our desires?

Yes.

That’s what I would do if I were God and loved people. Wouldn’t you? Wouldn’t you heal those children if you could?

So you would heal everyone on earth and no one would ever die.

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So in your view, God should exist to please us? Keep us safe, happy, help us achieve our desires?

Yes.

That’s what I would do if I were God and loved people. Wouldn’t you? Wouldn’t you heal those children if you could?

Would you make everyone a millionaire too?

And make everyone happy 24/7/365?

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So in your view, God should exist to please us? Keep us safe, happy, help us achieve our desires?

Yes.

That’s what I would do if I were God and loved people. Wouldn’t you? Wouldn’t you heal those children if you could?

So you would heal everyone on earth and no one would ever die.

People would live long healthy lives then go to sleep one night and never wake up, like their batteries just wore out.

That’s how it would be if there was a god worth believing in.

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So in your view, God should exist to please us? Keep us safe, happy, help us achieve our desires?

Yes.

That’s what I would do if I were God and loved people. Wouldn’t you? Wouldn’t you heal those children if you could?

So you would heal everyone on earth and no one would ever die.

People would live long healthy lives then go to sleep one night and never wake up, like their batteries just wore out.

That’s how it would be if there was a god worth believing in.

Like in the Garden of Eden?

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So in your view, God should exist to please us? Keep us safe, happy, help us achieve our desires?

Yes.

That’s what I would do if I were God and loved people. Wouldn’t you? Wouldn’t you heal those children if you could?

So you would heal everyone on earth and no one would ever die.

Yea of course.

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So in your view, God should exist to please us? Keep us safe, happy, help us achieve our desires?

Yes.

That’s what I would do if I were God and loved people. Wouldn’t you? Wouldn’t you heal those children if you could?

Would you make everyone a millionaire too?

And make everyone happy 24/7/365?

Sure if i had the power. Why not?