Herndon high - what’s going on?

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Anonymous wrote:Until SBG as is implemented at HHS (and Madison?) is rolled out across FCPS, parents at DCUM faves can blissfully assume that problem is the student population and/or parents are the problem. La-la-la. Nothing to see here, folks.

I have no doubt that SBG is an absolute disaster and is a contributing factor to the problems at those schools. But it is a bit dismissive of a lot of other issues at Herndon to insinuate that that is the primary problem.

For more context, search for some of the historical threads discussing gang activity at Herndon.

*the moderators tends to delete the newer threads discussing gang activity. And some LWNJs will accuse you of being racist if you state that you don’t want your kids to go to school with gang members. It’s really bizarre.

I have read those threads. And I am a HHS parent and I can tell that you do not know the reality of the situation at that school. Look at how well non-FARMS kids do and how many AP/DE classes are offered despite the challenges some students there face. Get off Fox News and take a better look.

Though of course you’ll accuse me of lying, I can assure you that I am a moderate democrat who gets his news from the Washington Post. I truly wish for the best outcomes at Herndon high, and you may be right that the school is actually just fine and not deserving of its reputation as an under performing school.

To which I respond with a question- then why is there such a push for the Forestville-will-be-our-savior redistricting?

DP. It’s not the Herndon parents making that push - it’s someone from McLean. She is obsessed with other people’s kids.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Everyone who wants Langley knows not to buy into that subdivision near Herndon because of the risk of redistricting. That’s why the houses are cheaper - that’s the risk you took when you got that deal…

And everyone in Herndon gets cheaper houses because they have a subpar school. That’s also what they signed up for. Not sure why you feel that those other citizens owe you anything.

They don't get cheaper taxes.

I always find it humorous when you make this argument. You know how percentages work, right?

DP. The rates are the same. If you buy more house/property, you shell out more by choice. If you feel overtaxed because the total you pay is too much, buy a smaller house/property. Paying a larger total in taxes doesn’t give you more voting power than anyone else.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Everyone who wants Langley knows not to buy into that subdivision near Herndon because of the risk of redistricting. That’s why the houses are cheaper - that’s the risk you took when you got that deal…

And everyone in Herndon gets cheaper houses because they have a subpar school. That’s also what they signed up for. Not sure why you feel that those other citizens owe you anything.

They don't get cheaper taxes.

I always find it humorous when you make this argument. You know how percentages work, right?

DP. The rates are the same. If you buy more house/property, you shell out more by choice. If you feel overtaxed because the total you pay is too much, buy a smaller house/property. Paying a larger total in taxes doesn’t give you more voting power than anyone else.

It’s disingenuous to say they don’t get cheaper taxes, because, as you admit, they actually do get cheaper taxes.

Nowhere in my post did I say anything about more voting power or complain about my own tax situation. Your post barely touched on what I actually said, and instead you just go on this weird tangent.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Everyone who wants Langley knows not to buy into that subdivision near Herndon because of the risk of redistricting. That’s why the houses are cheaper - that’s the risk you took when you got that deal…

And everyone in Herndon gets cheaper houses because they have a subpar school. That’s also what they signed up for. Not sure why you feel that those other citizens owe you anything.

They don't get cheaper taxes.

I always find it humorous when you make this argument. You know how percentages work, right?

DP. The rates are the same. If you buy more house/property, you shell out more by choice. If you feel overtaxed because the total you pay is too much, buy a smaller house/property. Paying a larger total in taxes doesn’t give you more voting power than anyone else.

It’s disingenuous to say they don’t get cheaper taxes, because, as you admit, they actually do get cheaper taxes.

Nowhere in my post did I say anything about more voting power or complain about my own tax situation. Your post barely touched on what I actually said, and instead you just go on this weird tangent.

It is disingenuous to disregard that everyone pays the same rate. If tax RATES were different per unit area, then you could argue that some people pay more or less.

But maybe you are arguing you are paying more in taxes per square foot than other parts of the county?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Everyone who wants Langley knows not to buy into that subdivision near Herndon because of the risk of redistricting. That’s why the houses are cheaper - that’s the risk you took when you got that deal…

And everyone in Herndon gets cheaper houses because they have a subpar school. That’s also what they signed up for. Not sure why you feel that those other citizens owe you anything.

They don't get cheaper taxes.

I always find it humorous when you make this argument. You know how percentages work, right?

DP. The rates are the same. If you buy more house/property, you shell out more by choice. If you feel overtaxed because the total you pay is too much, buy a smaller house/property. Paying a larger total in taxes doesn’t give you more voting power than anyone else.

It’s disingenuous to say they don’t get cheaper taxes, because, as you admit, they actually do get cheaper taxes.

Nowhere in my post did I say anything about more voting power or complain about my own tax situation. Your post barely touched on what I actually said, and instead you just go on this weird tangent.

It is disingenuous to disregard that everyone pays the same rate. If tax RATES were different per unit area, then you could argue that some people pay more or less.

But maybe you are arguing you are paying more in taxes per square foot than other parts of the county?

I grow weary of your contrived arguments, and still find it humorous when people try to argue that they pay just as much as everyone else because “RATES SAME”.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Until SBG as is implemented at HHS (and Madison?) is rolled out across FCPS, parents at DCUM faves can blissfully assume that problem is the student population and/or parents are the problem. La-la-la. Nothing to see here, folks.

I have no doubt that SBG is an absolute disaster and is a contributing factor to the problems at those schools. But it is a bit dismissive of a lot of other issues at Herndon to insinuate that that is the primary problem.

For more context, search for some of the historical threads discussing gang activity at Herndon.

*the moderators tends to delete the newer threads discussing gang activity. And some LWNJs will accuse you of being racist if you state that you don’t want your kids to go to school with gang members. It’s really bizarre.

I have read those threads. And I am a HHS parent and I can tell that you do not know the reality of the situation at that school. Look at how well non-FARMS kids do and how many AP/DE classes are offered despite the challenges some students there face. Get off Fox News and take a better look.

Though of course you’ll accuse me of lying, I can assure you that I am a moderate democrat who gets his news from the Washington Post. I truly wish for the best outcomes at Herndon high, and you may be right that the school is actually just fine and not deserving of its reputation as an under performing school.

To which I respond with a question- then why is there such a push for the Forestville-will-be-our-savior redistricting?

DP. It’s not the Herndon parents making that push - it’s someone from McLean. She is obsessed with other people’s kids.

And you know this how? I ask because:

(1) I recall someone from Reston interviewing Abrar Omeish on cable when she was running in 2019 and complaining about the Langley boundaries. It's not like just one poster has views on the Langley boundaries relative to Herndon and/or South Lakes.

(2) I am from McLean, have posted before that many of us have no interest in having our boundaries changed again just because one or more School Board members might like to move part of Langley to Herndon, and know that others at MHS with whom I've spoken feel similarly (we feel the current overcrowding is manageable now that we have the modular, and would prefer to wait for a new renovation queue before our boundaries are changed yet again).

The experience at McLean has been rather different than in most pyramids - our MS/HS boundaries were changed in 2021 and the boundaries for most of the elementary schools in our pyramid were changed just last December. We've already "given at the office" and would prefer to be left alone for a while.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So if I follow, most answers to original question of what’s going on at Herndon HS point to principal and SBG. Will HH continue SBG with unlimited retakes next year or what has principal said grading plan will be next year? Thx,

Herndon parent again: It all comes down to Reid and Tyson - both are well aware of what is going on. They need to step up and take charge. Otherwise it will continue as is. Noto made it crystal clear she is not a good leader so it’s on Reid/Tyson to take action now.

So most likely then more SBG with retakes and increased grades from retakes will show Reid “all is well” and more good teachers will leave. So unless bigger drop in SOLs, more of same.

It’s funny you focus on retakes. You clearly are not listening. You think offering retakes result in better grades. Truly clueless.

DP without SBG and only reading here but thought point of retakes was to give chance for kids to increase grades and that was one result from PTA letters. What is point of retakes if not that? Why introduce it then and why letters to college admissions offices?

Is Herndon going to send out letters explaining weird grading to colleges?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So if I follow, most answers to original question of what’s going on at Herndon HS point to principal and SBG. Will HH continue SBG with unlimited retakes next year or what has principal said grading plan will be next year? Thx,

Herndon parent again: It all comes down to Reid and Tyson - both are well aware of what is going on. They need to step up and take charge. Otherwise it will continue as is. Noto made it crystal clear she is not a good leader so it’s on Reid/Tyson to take action now.

So most likely then more SBG with retakes and increased grades from retakes will show Reid “all is well” and more good teachers will leave. So unless bigger drop in SOLs, more of same.

It’s funny you focus on retakes. You clearly are not listening. You think offering retakes result in better grades. Truly clueless.

DP without SBG and only reading here but thought point of retakes was to give chance for kids to increase grades and that was one result from PTA letters. What is point of retakes if not that? Why introduce it then and why letters to college admissions offices?

Is Herndon going to send out letters explaining weird grading to colleges?

From PTA website May 2 meeting post, sounds like did:

“Review and Looking Ahead

Parent Coffee

May 2, 2024

Before We Begin

1. Retakes are available for any standard(s) between now and the end of the school year.
1. Grades will not go down
2. Preparatory work will be expected to ensure success, but will not change from current expectations

2. A letter has been sent regarding this change to college admissions representatives for seniors. This will be included for all students through the freshman cohort to alert colleges of this year of implementation.

3. We verified with college admissions officers that no student would be adversely impacted from this year's implementation.”

https://herndonhs.fcps.edu/parent-coffee-may-2-2024

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So if I follow, most answers to original question of what’s going on at Herndon HS point to principal and SBG. Will HH continue SBG with unlimited retakes next year or what has principal said grading plan will be next year? Thx,

Herndon parent again: It all comes down to Reid and Tyson - both are well aware of what is going on. They need to step up and take charge. Otherwise it will continue as is. Noto made it crystal clear she is not a good leader so it’s on Reid/Tyson to take action now.

So most likely then more SBG with retakes and increased grades from retakes will show Reid “all is well” and more good teachers will leave. So unless bigger drop in SOLs, more of same.

It’s funny you focus on retakes. You clearly are not listening. You think offering retakes result in better grades. Truly clueless.

DP without SBG and only reading here but thought point of retakes was to give chance for kids to increase grades and that was one result from PTA letters. What is point of retakes if not that? Why introduce it then and why letters to college admissions offices?

From May 2 PTA link above, retakes ARE solely to potentially increase grade and no grade can be lowered by a retake. No kid is doing a retake unless they hope to get better score to increase grade. Teachers are accepting because they have been told that have to.

[Anonymous]

The letter that was sent out to colleges was a farce. It started out with “we are excited to share…” and had about fifteen grammatical errors.

You all act like a retake is a sure thing for an A. Between AP exams, finals and everything else that goes on in May and June, how many kids do you know would want to revisit tests from the fall?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The letter that was sent out to colleges was a farce. It started out with “we are excited to share…” and had about fifteen grammatical errors.

You all act like a retake is a sure thing for an A. Between AP exams, finals and everything else that goes on in May and June, how many kids do you know would want to revisit tests from the fall?

Hardworking kids, perhaps?

[Anonymous]

This whole SBG has me worried for my rising junior who attends a high school that plans to implement SBG next school year…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The letter that was sent out to colleges was a farce. It started out with “we are excited to share…” and had about fifteen grammatical errors.

You all act like a retake is a sure thing for an A. Between AP exams, finals and everything else that goes on in May and June, how many kids do you know would want to revisit tests from the fall?

Stating that retakes are being offered to improve grades and won’t lower grade is a correct statement, but of course it doesn’t means everyone gets As now. It’s already too late to help seniors and rest can try, but will be limited by time…. Only person know they help is principal, because if some kids take tests and increase grades, will report as success! If few retake, can report that parents were in uproar for nothing as kids don’t really care to increase grades.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The letter that was sent out to colleges was a farce. It started out with “we are excited to share…” and had about fifteen grammatical errors.

You all act like a retake is a sure thing for an A. Between AP exams, finals and everything else that goes on in May and June, how many kids do you know would want to revisit tests from the fall?

Anyone have copy of full letter to post here?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Everyone who wants Langley knows not to buy into that subdivision near Herndon because of the risk of redistricting. That’s why the houses are cheaper - that’s the risk you took when you got that deal…

And everyone in Herndon gets cheaper houses because they have a subpar school. That’s also what they signed up for. Not sure why you feel that those other citizens owe you anything.

They don't get cheaper taxes.

I always find it humorous when you make this argument. You know how percentages work, right?

DP. The rates are the same. If you buy more house/property, you shell out more by choice. If you feel overtaxed because the total you pay is too much, buy a smaller house/property. Paying a larger total in taxes doesn’t give you more voting power than anyone else.

It’s disingenuous to say they don’t get cheaper taxes, because, as you admit, they actually do get cheaper taxes.

Nowhere in my post did I say anything about more voting power or complain about my own tax situation. Your post barely touched on what I actually said, and instead you just go on this weird tangent.

It is disingenuous to disregard that everyone pays the same rate. If tax RATES were different per unit area, then you could argue that some people pay more or less.

But maybe you are arguing you are paying more in taxes per square foot than other parts of the county?

I grow weary of your contrived arguments, and still find it humorous when people try to argue that they pay just as much as everyone else because “RATES SAME”.

Sorry I think you're just flat out incorrect here. If one wants to purchase a cheaper condo in a top pyramid, then that option is available and they will pay relatively less taxes. If one wants to buy a $1MM+ McMansion in a low-rank pyramid that is also an option and they will pay relatively more taxes.
But nobody is paying more taxes because of their zip code and pyramid. They're paying it due to choice of real estate.