Are FL admissions easier now bc liberals are avoiding the state?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The peer group one year behind DD is applying for college now. Between DD’s year and this year, there are several kids I know from moderately liberal families who are attending or are applying to SEC/Southern ACC schools for sun and fun, sports and Greek, good academics, reasonable cost. Alabama and UGA seem very popular, plus GT, NC State and Clemson engineering and CS. (UNC also, but it’s an almost impossible admit). App State in NC is fun without the sun and also popular. Red states (or purple for NC) per se aren’t scaring them away.

But, these families are steering clear of FL state colleges (and would normally have considered U of FL/ Miami a few years ago) because of concerns over what DeSantis did at New College and because he is acively directing policy, eliminating tenure, limiting what can be taught Etc. And faculty are starting to leave U of FL over DeSantis’s policies.

But, the big concern is not only what things look like in 2024, but where U if FL will be 3-5 years from now if DeSantis keeps interfering with the FL State college system or if Matt Gaetz runs for governor. And what the ROI will look like in 5-10 years if he continues to make social and academic policy at U FL and Miami.

These are parents who are pretty savvy about college admissions.

My kids looked at smaller schools. But FL state schools would concern me. My personal opinion is that governors should be more hands off with state colleges and let the Board of Governors do their jobs. State colleges should have stability and make decisions are free from politics and the culture wars as possible. It isn’t good for a college to have big policy changes every 4 years as administrations come and go. Not a Youngkin fan, but I’m very glad he hasn’t pulled a DeSantis with VA state colleges. VA has excellent state colleges and I will begrudgingly give him credit for not fixing what isn’t broken. DeSantis is actively breaking things. Maybe you like the direction he’s going. But if DeSantis can make huge changes on things like majors and classes feared and tenure, so can the next Governor.

This.

Medical school students or any science field for that matter better be very prepared to not get in if coming from a Floria undergrad.

UF is one of the top undergraduate public universities. It is academically significantly better than the other southern schools you mention such as NC State, Clemson etc. Stop making up complete lies. The percentage of students getting into medical school from UF is great. It’s clear you have no idea what you are talking about. If anything, UF undergrad interest increases.

UF has it's own medical school. In fact the UF/Shands teaching hospital is one of the largest buildings under one roof south of the Pentagon. UF/Shands is a big operation and patients come from all over Florida, Georgia and Alabama for treatments.

[Anonymous]

Those of you who are worried about abortions should get your daughters on birth control.

[Anonymous]

UF/Shands employs 33,000 workers. It is a big operation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The peer group one year behind DD is applying for college now. Between DD’s year and this year, there are several kids I know from moderately liberal families who are attending or are applying to SEC/Southern ACC schools for sun and fun, sports and Greek, good academics, reasonable cost. Alabama and UGA seem very popular, plus GT, NC State and Clemson engineering and CS. (UNC also, but it’s an almost impossible admit). App State in NC is fun without the sun and also popular. Red states (or purple for NC) per se aren’t scaring them away.

But, these families are steering clear of FL state colleges (and would normally have considered U of FL/ Miami a few years ago) because of concerns over what DeSantis did at New College and because he is acively directing policy, eliminating tenure, limiting what can be taught Etc. And faculty are starting to leave U of FL over DeSantis’s policies.

But, the big concern is not only what things look like in 2024, but where U if FL will be 3-5 years from now if DeSantis keeps interfering with the FL State college system or if Matt Gaetz runs for governor. And what the ROI will look like in 5-10 years if he continues to make social and academic policy at U FL and Miami.

These are parents who are pretty savvy about college admissions.

My kids looked at smaller schools. But FL state schools would concern me. My personal opinion is that governors should be more hands off with state colleges and let the Board of Governors do their jobs. State colleges should have stability and make decisions are free from politics and the culture wars as possible. It isn’t good for a college to have big policy changes every 4 years as administrations come and go. Not a Youngkin fan, but I’m very glad he hasn’t pulled a DeSantis with VA state colleges. VA has excellent state colleges and I will begrudgingly give him credit for not fixing what isn’t broken. DeSantis is actively breaking things. Maybe you like the direction he’s going. But if DeSantis can make huge changes on things like majors and classes feared and tenure, so can the next Governor.

This.

Medical school students or any science field for that matter better be very prepared to not get in if coming from a Floria undergrad.

UF is one of the top undergraduate public universities. It is academically significantly better than the other southern schools you mention such as NC State, Clemson etc. Stop making up complete lies. The percentage of students getting into medical school from UF is great. It’s clear you have no idea what you are talking about. If anything, UF undergrad interest increases.

Citation?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The peer group one year behind DD is applying for college now. Between DD’s year and this year, there are several kids I know from moderately liberal families who are attending or are applying to SEC/Southern ACC schools for sun and fun, sports and Greek, good academics, reasonable cost. Alabama and UGA seem very popular, plus GT, NC State and Clemson engineering and CS. (UNC also, but it’s an almost impossible admit). App State in NC is fun without the sun and also popular. Red states (or purple for NC) per se aren’t scaring them away.

But, these families are steering clear of FL state colleges (and would normally have considered U of FL/ Miami a few years ago) because of concerns over what DeSantis did at New College and because he is acively directing policy, eliminating tenure, limiting what can be taught Etc. And faculty are starting to leave U of FL over DeSantis’s policies.

But, the big concern is not only what things look like in 2024, but where U if FL will be 3-5 years from now if DeSantis keeps interfering with the FL State college system or if Matt Gaetz runs for governor. And what the ROI will look like in 5-10 years if he continues to make social and academic policy at U FL and Miami.

These are parents who are pretty savvy about college admissions.

My kids looked at smaller schools. But FL state schools would concern me. My personal opinion is that governors should be more hands off with state colleges and let the Board of Governors do their jobs. State colleges should have stability and make decisions are free from politics and the culture wars as possible. It isn’t good for a college to have big policy changes every 4 years as administrations come and go. Not a Youngkin fan, but I’m very glad he hasn’t pulled a DeSantis with VA state colleges. VA has excellent state colleges and I will begrudgingly give him credit for not fixing what isn’t broken. DeSantis is actively breaking things. Maybe you like the direction he’s going. But if DeSantis can make huge changes on things like majors and classes feared and tenure, so can the next Governor.

How can DeSantis control policy, classes and tenure at a private university like Miami?

He has tried to control private companies like Disney.

[Anonymous]

For as many of you who loathe DeSantis, there are two more who love him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The peer group one year behind DD is applying for college now. Between DD’s year and this year, there are several kids I know from moderately liberal families who are attending or are applying to SEC/Southern ACC schools for sun and fun, sports and Greek, good academics, reasonable cost. Alabama and UGA seem very popular, plus GT, NC State and Clemson engineering and CS. (UNC also, but it’s an almost impossible admit). App State in NC is fun without the sun and also popular. Red states (or purple for NC) per se aren’t scaring them away.

But, these families are steering clear of FL state colleges (and would normally have considered U of FL/ Miami a few years ago) because of concerns over what DeSantis did at New College and because he is acively directing policy, eliminating tenure, limiting what can be taught Etc. And faculty are starting to leave U of FL over DeSantis’s policies.

But, the big concern is not only what things look like in 2024, but where U if FL will be 3-5 years from now if DeSantis keeps interfering with the FL State college system or if Matt Gaetz runs for governor. And what the ROI will look like in 5-10 years if he continues to make social and academic policy at U FL and Miami.

These are parents who are pretty savvy about college admissions.

My kids looked at smaller schools. But FL state schools would concern me. My personal opinion is that governors should be more hands off with state colleges and let the Board of Governors do their jobs. State colleges should have stability and make decisions are free from politics and the culture wars as possible. It isn’t good for a college to have big policy changes every 4 years as administrations come and go. Not a Youngkin fan, but I’m very glad he hasn’t pulled a DeSantis with VA state colleges. VA has excellent state colleges and I will begrudgingly give him credit for not fixing what isn’t broken. DeSantis is actively breaking things. Maybe you like the direction he’s going. But if DeSantis can make huge changes on things like majors and classes feared and tenure, so can the next Governor.

How can DeSantis control policy, classes and tenure at a private university like Miami?

He has tried to control private companies like Disney.

Well, he moved to remove the special sweetheart deal that Disney had for years after Disney waded into politics. I guess the “control” is that Disney will now have to play by the same rules as all the other entertainment companies in Florida.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For as many of you who loathe DeSantis, there are two more who love him.

Yep. This is how he turned the state from purple to
Solid red with an influx of people moving from OOS. They moved to
Fl and became republicans.

[Anonymous]

There are forty-nine others states where you can send your child to be indoctrinated with woke collegiate extremism. Yet most people in this country are not interested in sending their offspring to a Maoist re-education camp.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are forty-nine others states where you can send your child to be indoctrinated with woke collegiate extremism. Yet most people in this country are not interested in sending their offspring to a Maoist re-education camp.

This is where you lose all credibility.

Well, that and the fact that Florida is the only state that has passed laws specifying that it is illegal to discuss certain ideas and topics in college classes.

None of the “woke” states make discussing conservative ideas illegal.

Please explain how FL is the state with academic freedom.

[Anonymous]

Don’t Say Gay is ludicrous.

A Don’t Say Gay law at the college level? Come on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Don’t Say Gay is ludicrous.

A Don’t Say Gay law at the college level? Come on.

So you support pre-school and kindergarten teachers talking with their kids about the kids gender identity and sexual orientation? Interestingly, when the actual content of the law is described to people, over 70% approve.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Those of you who are worried about abortions should get your daughters on birth control.

Those of you who are worried about other people's bodies and healthcare choices should fudge right off.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Don’t Say Gay is ludicrous.

A Don’t Say Gay law at the college level? Come on.

So you support pre-school and kindergarten teachers talking with their kids about the kids gender identity and sexual orientation? Interestingly, when the actual content of the law is described to people, over 70% approve.

That might make sense if any preschool or kindergarten teachers were actually talking with kids about those topics. They aren't and weren't, not even in Florida. Just another example of a crisis created to panic those who aren't aware of reality but are gullible enough to believe such crap.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For as many of you who loathe DeSantis, there are two more who love him.

Yep. They’ll never get it tho. They think they’re so enlightened and everyone else sucks. Too bad they’re in the minority!