Brave 09g rant

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The # of elite level players in the 09s in this area simply may be limited, too, so while development hopefully will happen and accelerate going forward there may just not be enough talent across the board to make up for the current gap.

This very well may be true but good coaching can help develop current players and perform collectively as a team.

At the end of the day, if the team was winning, nobody would be complaining. Yes, MV lacks communication, yes, last years team was a disaster, both on the parent side and player side. Too many parents thinking they know the best bc they played in college, etc. Yes, players left last year midseason.

Parents on the current team need to get a reality check. If you don't show up to practice because it's too cold out or don't show up to a games because there is a school dance, then you aren't committed to the highest level of club soccer. Simple fact. Stop your complaining and get your kids some private training or at a minimum committed to the team. Then maybe, just maybe, MV can develop, but he's not a wizard.

No club is deep enough to withstand the loss of a full team at any age group. The Brave 09s are no exception.

What does this mean?

As has been posted earlier in this thread, the 09s have always been a down year for VYS girls. Their leading striker for years was a 2010 who moved back to her age group last season. Their player pool was roughly 50% of other years, and they have always had fewer 2009 teams than other years. That’s not to say there aren’t strong 2009 players, there are just fewer of them.

Couple that with BRYC’s 2009s (that were winless their first year in ECNL, which was the last year before Brave), and it is just a tough situation. That doesn’t make it right to cancel their Raleigh showcase, though, and it sounds like there are some legitimate complaints the Brave staff need to address.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The # of elite level players in the 09s in this area simply may be limited, too, so while development hopefully will happen and accelerate going forward there may just not be enough talent across the board to make up for the current gap.

This very well may be true but good coaching can help develop current players and perform collectively as a team.

At the end of the day, if the team was winning, nobody would be complaining. Yes, MV lacks communication, yes, last years team was a disaster, both on the parent side and player side. Too many parents thinking they know the best bc they played in college, etc. Yes, players left last year midseason.

Parents on the current team need to get a reality check. If you don't show up to practice because it's too cold out or don't show up to a games because there is a school dance, then you aren't committed to the highest level of club soccer. Simple fact. Stop your complaining and get your kids some private training or at a minimum committed to the team. Then maybe, just maybe, MV can develop, but he's not a wizard.

No club is deep enough to withstand the loss of a full team at any age group. The Brave 09s are no exception.

What does this mean?

As has been posted earlier in this thread, the 09s have always been a down year for VYS girls. Their leading striker for years was a 2010 who moved back to her age group last season. Their player pool was roughly 50% of other years, and they have always had fewer 2009 teams than other years. That’s not to say there aren’t strong 2009 players, there are just fewer of them.

Couple that with BRYC’s 2009s (that were winless their first year in ECNL, which was the last year before Brave), and it is just a tough situation. That doesn’t make it right to cancel their Raleigh showcase, though, and it sounds like there are some legitimate complaints the Brave staff need to address.

Exactly right, regarding the Raleigh Showcase. For a team that is struggling against ECNL competition (mightily based on the OPs post), it’s a chance to match up against teams that are more on their level and actually do more than just defend all game. So what is the plan? Throw away the season and hope some better players turn up at tryouts in Spring?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The # of elite level players in the 09s in this area simply may be limited, too, so while development hopefully will happen and accelerate going forward there may just not be enough talent across the board to make up for the current gap.

This very well may be true but good coaching can help develop current players and perform collectively as a team.

At the end of the day, if the team was winning, nobody would be complaining. Yes, MV lacks communication, yes, last years team was a disaster, both on the parent side and player side. Too many parents thinking they know the best bc they played in college, etc. Yes, players left last year midseason.

Parents on the current team need to get a reality check. If you don't show up to practice because it's too cold out or don't show up to a games because there is a school dance, then you aren't committed to the highest level of club soccer. Simple fact. Stop your complaining and get your kids some private training or at a minimum committed to the team. Then maybe, just maybe, MV can develop, but he's not a wizard.

I’d actually be good with losing but getting instructions on what to do with the ball, off the ball and showing improvement as a player and team.

As for practices, maybe MV should communicate what the expectations are for practices.

[Anonymous]

The 2009s at BRYC had the most talent when they were younger. Then everyone left because of BRYC issues. Those girls are on the top teams for other clubs (NVA, Arlington, McLean, etc…)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:“Agree. If many 09 parents wanted MV involved more, why did almost all of them leave when he would be coaching their team the following year?”

Because they wanted him to be involved immediately last year. Many parents wanted immediate change. 3 of the 09 players left to GF before the Spring season was even over. A remaining friend group then followed soon after well before the following years coaching slate was even announced.
There’s no question that the 09 experience was a mess but dynamics between the mix of players coming together on this team was problematic from early on and didn’t get any better once trapped players were added to the mix in Spring. It should have been handled better early on.
But MVs coaching and relationship with his players/teams is as strong as ever. LO is great and doing well with her teams too this year. Other than the 09s their BRAVE teams are all doing really well for a brand new club. Hopefully the addition of stronger players in the next year will change things around for the 09s too.

They announced the Brave coaching slate before the spring season even started, the week before ECNL tryouts opened. It's still on their IG page. The parents knew the coaching slate before the team fell apart, so this is a bit of revisionist history to fit the narrative.

There appears to be an expectation that an existing BRYC ECNL team augmented by VYS players who had previously chosen not to play ECNL would immediately be competitive. That's not fair expectation to any coach or program. The 10's and the 11's are the only teams with any advantage of both clubs leading and funneling to Brave. Give the coaches some time to build the program.

Yes, and please give NVA and VA Union plenty of time as well, as they are new and we probably should throw VDA in there too, as I’m sure it’s been very challenging to add Herndon into the mix. Can’t forget about FCV! They added Barca 2 yrs ago. And Arlington switched from GA to ECNL 2 yrs ago…probably a big change for them too. So let’s just give them all plenty of time.

VA Union is probably the only example that can be compared to Brave but even they had a very strong base to start from with the McLean program. Brave is basically starting from less than scratch. A Bryc club that was bleeding any decent players from as early as u9 and a VYS club that had lost many serious players by u11 to neighboring clubs. And all the younger age coaches are new to ECNL.

Brave will improve over time. MV is a good coach and VK and LO are learning under him. How much they improve is anyone’s guess but stop pretending that all of these situations are the same.

The club is controlled by the Mishalows and Dolanskys, same as it ever was.

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[Anonymous]

Good coaches avoid coaching with BRYC on the girls side for a reason. too many silos, too many entrenched coaches and directors, too many political issues with the club. They dug a hole for themselves and VYS is helping them somewhat dig out of it, but it's not quite enough with the competition level. If BRAVE brought in ANOTHER partner club, like Lee-Mt. Vernon or something I could see it working.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The # of elite level players in the 09s in this area simply may be limited, too, so while development hopefully will happen and accelerate going forward there may just not be enough talent across the board to make up for the current gap.

This very well may be true but good coaching can help develop current players and perform collectively as a team.

At the end of the day, if the team was winning, nobody would be complaining. Yes, MV lacks communication, yes, last years team was a disaster, both on the parent side and player side. Too many parents thinking they know the best bc they played in college, etc. Yes, players left last year midseason.

Parents on the current team need to get a reality check. If you don't show up to practice because it's too cold out or don't show up to a games because there is a school dance, then you aren't committed to the highest level of club soccer. Simple fact. Stop your complaining and get your kids some private training or at a minimum committed to the team. Then maybe, just maybe, MV can develop, but he's not a wizard.

No club is deep enough to withstand the loss of a full team at any age group. The Brave 09s are no exception.

What does this mean?

As has been posted earlier in this thread, the 09s have always been a down year for VYS girls. Their leading striker for years was a 2010 who moved back to her age group last season. Their player pool was roughly 50% of other years, and they have always had fewer 2009 teams than other years. That’s not to say there aren’t strong 2009 players, there are just fewer of them.

Couple that with BRYC’s 2009s (that were winless their first year in ECNL, which was the last year before Brave), and it is just a tough situation. That doesn’t make it right to cancel their Raleigh showcase, though, and it sounds like there are some legitimate complaints the Brave staff need to address.

Exactly right, regarding the Raleigh Showcase. For a team that is struggling against ECNL competition (mightily based on the OPs post), it’s a chance to match up against teams that are more on their level and actually do more than just defend all game. So what is the plan? Throw away the season and hope some better players turn up at tryouts in Spring?

MV going to TN to coach the 08s even though LO is the coach. This is why he canceled the Raleigh Showcase for the 09s. What does that tell you about who was really coaching the 09s last year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Good coaches avoid coaching with BRYC on the girls side for a reason. too many silos, too many entrenched coaches and directors, too many political issues with the club. They dug a hole for themselves and VYS is helping them somewhat dig out of it, but it's not quite enough with the competition level. If BRAVE brought in ANOTHER partner club, like Lee-Mt. Vernon or something I could see it working.

LMVSC is the epitome of entrenched directors and political issues with the club. But that's a separate thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good coaches avoid coaching with BRYC on the girls side for a reason. too many silos, too many entrenched coaches and directors, too many political issues with the club. They dug a hole for themselves and VYS is helping them somewhat dig out of it, but it's not quite enough with the competition level. If BRAVE brought in ANOTHER partner club, like Lee-Mt. Vernon or something I could see it working.

LMVSC is the epitome of entrenched directors and political issues with the club. But that's a separate thread.

This probably is a separate thread, but LMVSC would benefit from a partnership with SOMEONE. LMVSC has more to gain than Brave, since Brave (and Union) are geographically close enough to attract top LMVSC players without needing to partner. LMVSC has already been losing players at the U11-U13 level to Brave and Union feeder clubs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good coaches avoid coaching with BRYC on the girls side for a reason. too many silos, too many entrenched coaches and directors, too many political issues with the club. They dug a hole for themselves and VYS is helping them somewhat dig out of it, but it's not quite enough with the competition level. If BRAVE brought in ANOTHER partner club, like Lee-Mt. Vernon or something I could see it working.

LMVSC is the epitome of entrenched directors and political issues with the club. But that's a separate thread.

This probably is a separate thread, but LMVSC would benefit from a partnership with SOMEONE. LMVSC has more to gain than Brave, since Brave (and Union) are geographically close enough to attract top LMVSC players without needing to partner. LMVSC has already been losing players at the U11-U13 level to Brave and Union feeder clubs.

What would Brave or Union get out of a partnership with LMVSC?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good coaches avoid coaching with BRYC on the girls side for a reason. too many silos, too many entrenched coaches and directors, too many political issues with the club. They dug a hole for themselves and VYS is helping them somewhat dig out of it, but it's not quite enough with the competition level. If BRAVE brought in ANOTHER partner club, like Lee-Mt. Vernon or something I could see it working.

LMVSC is the epitome of entrenched directors and political issues with the club. But that's a separate thread.

This probably is a separate thread, but LMVSC would benefit from a partnership with SOMEONE. LMVSC has more to gain than Brave, since Brave (and Union) are geographically close enough to attract top LMVSC players without needing to partner. LMVSC has already been losing players at the U11-U13 level to Brave and Union feeder clubs.

What would Brave or Union get out of a partnership with LMVSC?

Access to more players, but that might be about it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The # of elite level players in the 09s in this area simply may be limited, too, so while development hopefully will happen and accelerate going forward there may just not be enough talent across the board to make up for the current gap.

This very well may be true but good coaching can help develop current players and perform collectively as a team.

At the end of the day, if the team was winning, nobody would be complaining. Yes, MV lacks communication, yes, last years team was a disaster, both on the parent side and player side. Too many parents thinking they know the best bc they played in college, etc. Yes, players left last year midseason.

Parents on the current team need to get a reality check. If you don't show up to practice because it's too cold out or don't show up to a games because there is a school dance, then you aren't committed to the highest level of club soccer. Simple fact. Stop your complaining and get your kids some private training or at a minimum committed to the team. Then maybe, just maybe, MV can develop, but he's not a wizard.

No club is deep enough to withstand the loss of a full team at any age group. The Brave 09s are no exception.

What does this mean?

As has been posted earlier in this thread, the 09s have always been a down year for VYS girls. Their leading striker for years was a 2010 who moved back to her age group last season. Their player pool was roughly 50% of other years, and they have always had fewer 2009 teams than other years. That’s not to say there aren’t strong 2009 players, there are just fewer of them.

Couple that with BRYC’s 2009s (that were winless their first year in ECNL, which was the last year before Brave), and it is just a tough situation. That doesn’t make it right to cancel their Raleigh showcase, though, and it sounds like there are some legitimate complaints the Brave staff need to address.

Exactly right, regarding the Raleigh Showcase. For a team that is struggling against ECNL competition (mightily based on the OPs post), it’s a chance to match up against teams that are more on their level and actually do more than just defend all game. So what is the plan? Throw away the season and hope some better players turn up at tryouts in Spring?

I'm not sure the age group can handle the loss of the whole team again. If MV is a good coach and communicator, why can't he coach current girls and try to recruit some more? Every year can't be a rebuilding year.

[Anonymous]

Some of the Brave 09s played for BRYC RL in the NC showcase. Bryc posted the photos on fb.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The # of elite level players in the 09s in this area simply may be limited, too, so while development hopefully will happen and accelerate going forward there may just not be enough talent across the board to make up for the current gap.

This very well may be true but good coaching can help develop current players and perform collectively as a team.

At the end of the day, if the team was winning, nobody would be complaining. Yes, MV lacks communication, yes, last years team was a disaster, both on the parent side and player side. Too many parents thinking they know the best bc they played in college, etc. Yes, players left last year midseason.

Parents on the current team need to get a reality check. If you don't show up to practice because it's too cold out or don't show up to a games because there is a school dance, then you aren't committed to the highest level of club soccer. Simple fact. Stop your complaining and get your kids some private training or at a minimum committed to the team. Then maybe, just maybe, MV can develop, but he's not a wizard.

No club is deep enough to withstand the loss of a full team at any age group. The Brave 09s are no exception.

What does this mean?

As has been posted earlier in this thread, the 09s have always been a down year for VYS girls. Their leading striker for years was a 2010 who moved back to her age group last season. Their player pool was roughly 50% of other years, and they have always had fewer 2009 teams than other years. That’s not to say there aren’t strong 2009 players, there are just fewer of them.

Couple that with BRYC’s 2009s (that were winless their first year in ECNL, which was the last year before Brave), and it is just a tough situation. That doesn’t make it right to cancel their Raleigh showcase, though, and it sounds like there are some legitimate complaints the Brave staff need to address.

Exactly right, regarding the Raleigh Showcase. For a team that is struggling against ECNL competition (mightily based on the OPs post), it’s a chance to match up against teams that are more on their level and actually do more than just defend all game. So what is the plan? Throw away the season and hope some better players turn up at tryouts in Spring?

I'm not sure the age group can handle the loss of the whole team again. If MV is a good coach and communicator, why can't he coach current girls and try to recruit some more? Every year can't be a rebuilding year.

I think that people have been saying MV is an okay coach and a terrible communicator. How does he get away with canceling the tournament for the 09s to travel with a team he doesn’t even coach? What did he tell the 09 parents and kids?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The # of elite level players in the 09s in this area simply may be limited, too, so while development hopefully will happen and accelerate going forward there may just not be enough talent across the board to make up for the current gap.

This very well may be true but good coaching can help develop current players and perform collectively as a team.

At the end of the day, if the team was winning, nobody would be complaining. Yes, MV lacks communication, yes, last years team was a disaster, both on the parent side and player side. Too many parents thinking they know the best bc they played in college, etc. Yes, players left last year midseason.

Parents on the current team need to get a reality check. If you don't show up to practice because it's too cold out or don't show up to a games because there is a school dance, then you aren't committed to the highest level of club soccer. Simple fact. Stop your complaining and get your kids some private training or at a minimum committed to the team. Then maybe, just maybe, MV can develop, but he's not a wizard.

No club is deep enough to withstand the loss of a full team at any age group. The Brave 09s are no exception.

What does this mean?

As has been posted earlier in this thread, the 09s have always been a down year for VYS girls. Their leading striker for years was a 2010 who moved back to her age group last season. Their player pool was roughly 50% of other years, and they have always had fewer 2009 teams than other years. That’s not to say there aren’t strong 2009 players, there are just fewer of them.

Couple that with BRYC’s 2009s (that were winless their first year in ECNL, which was the last year before Brave), and it is just a tough situation. That doesn’t make it right to cancel their Raleigh showcase, though, and it sounds like there are some legitimate complaints the Brave staff need to address.

Exactly right, regarding the Raleigh Showcase. For a team that is struggling against ECNL competition (mightily based on the OPs post), it’s a chance to match up against teams that are more on their level and actually do more than just defend all game. So what is the plan? Throw away the season and hope some better players turn up at tryouts in Spring?

I'm not sure the age group can handle the loss of the whole team again. If MV is a good coach and communicator, why can't he coach current girls and try to recruit some more? Every year can't be a rebuilding year.

I think that people have been saying MV is an okay coach and a terrible communicator. How does he get away with canceling the tournament for the 09s to travel with a team he doesn’t even coach? What did he tell the 09 parents and kids?

Who’s going to stop him? He didn’t say anything to the parents or kids. Just deleted it from TeamSnap. He may have said something to the players he set up w bryc rl to play that weekend but nothing teamwide. Okay coach if all you expect from a coach is to set up a lineup and sit in a chair all game saying nothing.