New Mexico Governor's unConstitutional power grab

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Elections are coming up, time to test the emergency orders again. Make everyone mask up, take away law abiding citizens rights.

Is it going to work again this time?

Your freedom to swing your fists ends at someone else's nose.

Your freedoms end at the point where they put someone else at risk. When your freedoms end up taking away someone else's freedom (and especially, when your freedoms take away someone's greatest and most important freedom - their life) that is when controls need to come in.

One person swings their fist. The other doesn't.

Cut both their hands off?

Per the person responding above about what the Republican proposal is to end gun violence,

"Put the boots on the neck of those communities that are producing the most violence."

So that means gun owners. Maybe having a boot on your neck, having a broader crackdown, will make you think about how we should have more responsible policies about guns.

Like, why it is so easy for people with a history of mental illness, domestic violence, anger management issues to get a gun in the first place - or why we don't have a searchable database to help track down and close off the pipelines by which many criminals get their guns (straw buyers and gunrunners).

People like you keep saying things like "the black community should find a way to solve the issue of violence of blacks on blacks" so why shouldn't the same logic apply, and the community of gun owners have pressure put on them and be held responsible to solve the issue of ending the rampant gun violence?

Legal gun owners are not causing the most destruction. Hate to say it but minority communities have the most gun violence.

I don't really care. The people who don't own guns aren't responsible for gun violence. Those of you who do own guns are the ones responsible for gun violence. Every single gun used in a crime started out as as a gun from someone who was supposedly a "legal gun owner" so yes, you are in fact the ones responsible for the most destruction. This is your community and it is on you to fix.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wow.
Women lose a constitutional right held for a generation, and people shrug and wonder if it will matter in the voting booth next year.
Gun nuts have to leave their guns at home for a month, and LOSE THEIR MINDS!!!!

Abortion is not a constitutional right. It’s not in the constitution.

Open carry is not in the constitution.

Shall not be infringed

A well regulated Militia….

that was gone over. Commas matter

By "gone over" they mean "we ignore that part"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can the governor potentially be indicted?

For what?

[Anonymous]

Group sues after New Mexico governor suspends right to carry guns in Albuquerque in public

https://apnews.com/article/albuquerque-guns-governor-concealed-carry-firearms-3fbe91683934057fe3036ccf187a7f1c




Bonus: Albuquerque DA WILL NOT enforce NM CCW ban!



You really stepped in it this time, donkeys!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Republicans: What is your proposal to end gun violence in America, and to get all of the illegal guns off of the streets and out of the hands of criminals?

If you say "more guns" then that's what's already been done for decades, and it hasn't worked.

How about an ACTUAL proposal?

And if you don't have an actual proposal, then maybe you should STFU and sit down.

So let's hear it.... give me a serious proposal, or STFU and sit down.

Enforce the laws on the books? Go after straw purchasers? Hire more cops to go after straw purchasers? Penalize any straw purchasers whose purchase results in a shooting?

Extra policing in areas that have large numbers of gun crimes? More foot patrols? Funding for metal detectors in entrances to shops and private buildings to alert others that you may be carrying?

Stop and frisk (has its own legal problems, but works)?

Its a social justice issue that people of color are hurt more by lax enforcement than other communities, so place the focus on those who need the help the most.

https://www.bradyunited.org/issue/gun-violence-is-a-racial-justice-issue

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Lawsuit against Gov. Grisham's order filed yesterday.

Bernalillo County District Attorney Sam Bregman, who once served as a Democratic party leader and was appointed by Lujan Grisham, on Saturday joined Albuquerque Mayor Tim Keller and Police Chief Harold Medina saying they wouldn’t enforce the order because it is unconstitutional.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/group-sues-after-new-mexico-governor-suspends-carry-103060141

Unabated gun violence is unconstitutional.

New Mexico Constitution:
Sec. 4. [Inherent rights.]
All persons are born equally free, and
have certain natural, inherent and inalienable rights, among which are the rights of
enjoying and defending life and liberty, of
acquiring, possessing and protecting property, and of seeking and obtaining safety
and happiness.

That part COMES BEFORE the right to keep and bear arms in the New Mexico Constitution.

Do ban cars, knives, rocks, hammers, etc. Anything that can cause someone’s death.I’d say natural gas and electricity but Dems are already floating that.

Plus homemade bombs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Elections are coming up, time to test the emergency orders again. Make everyone mask up, take away law abiding citizens rights.

Is it going to work again this time?

Your freedom to swing your fists ends at someone else's nose.

Your freedoms end at the point where they put someone else at risk. When your freedoms end up taking away someone else's freedom (and especially, when your freedoms take away someone's greatest and most important freedom - their life) that is when controls need to come in.

One person swings their fist. The other doesn't.

Cut both their hands off?

Per the person responding above about what the Republican proposal is to end gun violence,

"Put the boots on the neck of those communities that are producing the most violence."

So that means gun owners. Maybe having a boot on your neck, having a broader crackdown, will make you think about how we should have more responsible policies about guns.

Like, why it is so easy for people with a history of mental illness, domestic violence, anger management issues to get a gun in the first place - or why we don't have a searchable database to help track down and close off the pipelines by which many criminals get their guns (straw buyers and gunrunners).

People like you keep saying things like "the black community should find a way to solve the issue of violence of blacks on blacks" so why shouldn't the same logic apply, and the community of gun owners have pressure put on them and be held responsible to solve the issue of ending the rampant gun violence?

Legal gun owners are not causing the most destruction. Hate to say it but minority communities have the most gun violence.

I don't really care. The people who don't own guns aren't responsible for gun violence. Those of you who do own guns are the ones responsible for gun violence. Every single gun used in a crime started out as as a gun from someone who was supposedly a "legal gun owner" so yes, you are in fact the ones responsible for the most destruction. This is your community and it is on you to fix.

Way to blame innocent people for the crimes of the guilty. No wonder you are for letting murderers off easy

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Elections are coming up, time to test the emergency orders again. Make everyone mask up, take away law abiding citizens rights.

Is it going to work again this time?

Your freedom to swing your fists ends at someone else's nose.

Your freedoms end at the point where they put someone else at risk. When your freedoms end up taking away someone else's freedom (and especially, when your freedoms take away someone's greatest and most important freedom - their life) that is when controls need to come in.

One person swings their fist. The other doesn't.

Cut both their hands off?

Per the person responding above about what the Republican proposal is to end gun violence,

"Put the boots on the neck of those communities that are producing the most violence."

So that means gun owners. Maybe having a boot on your neck, having a broader crackdown, will make you think about how we should have more responsible policies about guns.

Like, why it is so easy for people with a history of mental illness, domestic violence, anger management issues to get a gun in the first place - or why we don't have a searchable database to help track down and close off the pipelines by which many criminals get their guns (straw buyers and gunrunners).

People like you keep saying things like "the black community should find a way to solve the issue of violence of blacks on blacks" so why shouldn't the same logic apply, and the community of gun owners have pressure put on them and be held responsible to solve the issue of ending the rampant gun violence?

Legal gun owners are not causing the most destruction. Hate to say it but minority communities have the most gun violence.

I don't really care. The people who don't own guns aren't responsible for gun violence. Those of you who do own guns are the ones responsible for gun violence. Every single gun used in a crime started out as as a gun from someone who was supposedly a "legal gun owner" so yes, you are in fact the ones responsible for the most destruction. This is your community and it is on you to fix.

Ghost guns prove otherwise.

They don't require background checks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Republicans: What is your proposal to end gun violence in America, and to get all of the illegal guns off of the streets and out of the hands of criminals?

If you say "more guns" then that's what's already been done for decades, and it hasn't worked.

How about an ACTUAL proposal?

And if you don't have an actual proposal, then maybe you should STFU and sit down.

So let's hear it.... give me a serious proposal, or STFU and sit down.

Enforce the laws on the books? Go after straw purchasers? Hire more cops to go after straw purchasers? Penalize any straw purchasers whose purchase results in a shooting?

Extra policing in areas that have large numbers of gun crimes? More foot patrols? Funding for metal detectors in entrances to shops and private buildings to alert others that you may be carrying?

Stop and frisk (has its own legal problems, but works)?

Its a social justice issue that people of color are hurt more by lax enforcement than other communities, so place the focus on those who need the help the most.

https://www.bradyunited.org/issue/gun-violence-is-a-racial-justice-issue

Kind of hard to go after straw purchasers when there is no persistent data or searchable database to work with.

And maybe you haven't been paying attention but the social justice issue isn't "lax enforcement" - police are overpolicing in all the wrong ways - pulling over and harrassing innocent people, engaging in unwarranted brutality while the violence continues unabated without any serious effort to actually root out the core causes of it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Elections are coming up, time to test the emergency orders again. Make everyone mask up, take away law abiding citizens rights.

Is it going to work again this time?

Your freedom to swing your fists ends at someone else's nose.

Your freedoms end at the point where they put someone else at risk. When your freedoms end up taking away someone else's freedom (and especially, when your freedoms take away someone's greatest and most important freedom - their life) that is when controls need to come in.

One person swings their fist. The other doesn't.

Cut both their hands off?

Per the person responding above about what the Republican proposal is to end gun violence,

"Put the boots on the neck of those communities that are producing the most violence."

So that means gun owners. Maybe having a boot on your neck, having a broader crackdown, will make you think about how we should have more responsible policies about guns.

Like, why it is so easy for people with a history of mental illness, domestic violence, anger management issues to get a gun in the first place - or why we don't have a searchable database to help track down and close off the pipelines by which many criminals get their guns (straw buyers and gunrunners).

People like you keep saying things like "the black community should find a way to solve the issue of violence of blacks on blacks" so why shouldn't the same logic apply, and the community of gun owners have pressure put on them and be held responsible to solve the issue of ending the rampant gun violence?

Legal gun owners are not causing the most destruction. Hate to say it but minority communities have the most gun violence.

I don't really care. The people who don't own guns aren't responsible for gun violence. Those of you who do own guns are the ones responsible for gun violence. Every single gun used in a crime started out as as a gun from someone who was supposedly a "legal gun owner" so yes, you are in fact the ones responsible for the most destruction. This is your community and it is on you to fix.

Ghost guns prove otherwise.

They don't require background checks.

Ghost guns skirt the laws. The manufacturers of receivers and frames for ghost guns should be shut down. And we should require mandatory background checks for the purchase of ALL gun parts.

[Anonymous]

Why would anyone bother to "root out the core causes of it"?

Some leftist judge will just set them free anyway.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Elections are coming up, time to test the emergency orders again. Make everyone mask up, take away law abiding citizens rights.

Is it going to work again this time?

Your freedom to swing your fists ends at someone else's nose.

Your freedoms end at the point where they put someone else at risk. When your freedoms end up taking away someone else's freedom (and especially, when your freedoms take away someone's greatest and most important freedom - their life) that is when controls need to come in.

One person swings their fist. The other doesn't.

Cut both their hands off?

Per the person responding above about what the Republican proposal is to end gun violence,

"Put the boots on the neck of those communities that are producing the most violence."

So that means gun owners. Maybe having a boot on your neck, having a broader crackdown, will make you think about how we should have more responsible policies about guns.

Like, why it is so easy for people with a history of mental illness, domestic violence, anger management issues to get a gun in the first place - or why we don't have a searchable database to help track down and close off the pipelines by which many criminals get their guns (straw buyers and gunrunners).

People like you keep saying things like "the black community should find a way to solve the issue of violence of blacks on blacks" so why shouldn't the same logic apply, and the community of gun owners have pressure put on them and be held responsible to solve the issue of ending the rampant gun violence?

Legal gun owners are not causing the most destruction. Hate to say it but minority communities have the most gun violence.

I don't really care. The people who don't own guns aren't responsible for gun violence. Those of you who do own guns are the ones responsible for gun violence. Every single gun used in a crime started out as as a gun from someone who was supposedly a "legal gun owner" so yes, you are in fact the ones responsible for the most destruction. This is your community and it is on you to fix.

Ghost guns prove otherwise.

They don't require background checks.

Who cares about background checks? Just lie on the background check form and then cite Hunter Biden as getting away with it.

Problem solved.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Republicans: What is your proposal to end gun violence in America, and to get all of the illegal guns off of the streets and out of the hands of criminals?

If you say "more guns" then that's what's already been done for decades, and it hasn't worked.

How about an ACTUAL proposal?

And if you don't have an actual proposal, then maybe you should STFU and sit down.

So let's hear it.... give me a serious proposal, or STFU and sit down.

Enforce the laws on the books? Go after straw purchasers? Hire more cops to go after straw purchasers? Penalize any straw purchasers whose purchase results in a shooting?

Extra policing in areas that have large numbers of gun crimes? More foot patrols? Funding for metal detectors in entrances to shops and private buildings to alert others that you may be carrying?

Stop and frisk (has its own legal problems, but works)?

Its a social justice issue that people of color are hurt more by lax enforcement than other communities, so place the focus on those who need the help the most.

https://www.bradyunited.org/issue/gun-violence-is-a-racial-justice-issue

Kind of hard to go after straw purchasers when there is no persistent data or searchable database to work with.

And maybe you haven't been paying attention but the social justice issue isn't "lax enforcement" - police are overpolicing in all the wrong ways - pulling over and harrassing innocent people, engaging in unwarranted brutality while the violence continues unabated without any serious effort to actually root out the core causes of it.

I disagree. When you have juveniles who murder an Uber driver receive a "maximum penalty" of juvenile detention until they turn 21, there is something wrong with our criminal justice system. They murdered a man trying to earn a living for his family.
I guarantee you when these teens get back on the streets, they will continue a life of crime.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can the governor potentially be indicted?

For what?

Acting unconstitutionally?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow.
Women lose a constitutional right held for a generation, and people shrug and wonder if it will matter in the voting booth next year.
Gun nuts have to leave their guns at home for a month, and LOSE THEIR MINDS!!!!

Abortion is not a constitutional right. It’s not in the constitution.

Open carry is not in the constitution.

Shall not be infringed

A well regulated Militia….

that was gone over. Commas matter

By "gone over" they mean "we ignore that part"

It means that we know what an absolute phrase is.