Thomas Jefferson High School drops to 5th in latest US News ranking

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Anonymous wrote:It doesn't matter when the rankings were made. People have already said TJ's scores will go down because they are no longer selecting for students who do well on tests. A high ranking is not the goal.

However, scores might go up, since someone posted above that the scores are compared to the expectations based on the racial makeup of the school. With more blacks and Hispanics, who will presumably outperform the typical black and Hispanic student. the test rankings might go up.

Sure, let's just ignore the fact that Asian American students with stronger merit credentials were denied admission. No racial manipulation of outcomes going on here.

I guess the school board members are not Asians. No equality there.

Rachna Sizemore Heiser (South Asian American) and Abrar Omeish (West Asian American) would disagree. And they represent the entire county as At-Large members.

I have never heard of West Asian American being used to describe Arabs. Did you make that up? Genuinely curious.

The liberals love to make up stuff to fit their narratives.

Pure projection.

Non sense

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Anonymous wrote:Amazingly, so many people in this forum believe discrimination and war on meritocracy are good for our country.

The situation is more nuanced than just labeling it a war on meritocracy. Instead, it involves imposing equal outcomes by masking it under the guise of meritocracy. Notably, the STEM-focused admissions test has been replaced by an irrelevant personal essay, making the admission process subjective instead of objective. While there still exists a merit-based facade, it's underscored by lowered GPA requirements and basic algebra as admission benchmarks. While there's an appearance of merit, it's more like a veneer, all with the deliberate aim of suppressing the representation of a specific minority community.

The average GPA is *higher* with recent classes.

Yes, because of grade inflation in general.

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Anonymous wrote:It doesn't matter when the rankings were made. People have already said TJ's scores will go down because they are no longer selecting for students who do well on tests. A high ranking is not the goal.

However, scores might go up, since someone posted above that the scores are compared to the expectations based on the racial makeup of the school. With more blacks and Hispanics, who will presumably outperform the typical black and Hispanic student. the test rankings might go up.

Sure, let's just ignore the fact that Asian American students with stronger merit credentials were denied admission. No racial manipulation of outcomes going on here.

It could be that the Asians being admitted now are not as high caliber as the ones admitted before. So this group would score worse compared to other Asians, or at least not as well as previous classes did. TJ's USA score would drop here.

This! No one wants to talk about the real issue.

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Anonymous wrote:It doesn't matter when the rankings were made. People have already said TJ's scores will go down because they are no longer selecting for students who do well on tests. A high ranking is not the goal.

However, scores might go up, since someone posted above that the scores are compared to the expectations based on the racial makeup of the school. With more blacks and Hispanics, who will presumably outperform the typical black and Hispanic student. the test rankings might go up.

But a high ranking is the goal. To the parents.
The fact that their child's education is excellent, that US News rankings don't really matter and that the article says there's little difference between 5th and 1st doesn't matter.
The rankings matter so the parents can feel superior.

And this is why TJ is such a healthier place now - they've begun replacing the parents. The kids selected by the old process have never been the problem.

How's TJ healthier now? Why suppressing the parents (the tax payers) is a good thing?

The focus is moving away from prestige and individualism and in the direction of a complete education that prepares students to collaborate with a 21st century population.

So, implementing discrimination and parent suppression would achieve that. Wow

Race is not considered during the admissions process.

And Asians have the highest rate and number of admissions. So...

No discrimination.

Don't lie. The main reason to keep changing the admission process is to engineer the racial demographic

Nope. It was to provide opportunities to kids from ALL middle schools.

You cannot get free rides all the time. At some point in your life you have to work hard to get ahead.

It's a public school that serves as the magnet for a whole region. If you don't like that, pay for private. After all, you can't get free rides all the time

This is a magnet school. If you don't like to work hard, why go there?

Why are you assuming the kids attending don't like to work hard? Public school students can only take classes and join clubs that their schools offer.

Not all the kids attending, especially those who work hard and have all the credentials. The one who doesn't cry for entitlement.
Only the lazy kids who just want a quota for them to get in TJ.

Is grammar not your strong suit? I'm sure there is a coherent thought in there somewhere, but it's sure hiding.

No, it is not. So what?

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Anonymous wrote:Amazingly, so many people in this forum believe discrimination and war on meritocracy are good for our country.

The situation is more nuanced than just labeling it a war on meritocracy. Instead, it involves imposing equal outcomes by masking it under the guise of meritocracy. Notably, the STEM-focused admissions test has been replaced by an irrelevant personal essay, making the admission process subjective instead of objective. While there still exists a merit-based facade, it's underscored by lowered GPA requirements and basic algebra as admission benchmarks. While there's an appearance of merit, it's more like a veneer, all with the deliberate aim of suppressing the representation of a specific minority community.

The average GPA is *higher* with recent classes.

Yes, because of grade inflation in general.

Exactly.

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Anonymous wrote:It doesn't matter when the rankings were made. People have already said TJ's scores will go down because they are no longer selecting for students who do well on tests. A high ranking is not the goal.

However, scores might go up, since someone posted above that the scores are compared to the expectations based on the racial makeup of the school. With more blacks and Hispanics, who will presumably outperform the typical black and Hispanic student. the test rankings might go up.

But a high ranking is the goal. To the parents.
The fact that their child's education is excellent, that US News rankings don't really matter and that the article says there's little difference between 5th and 1st doesn't matter.
The rankings matter so the parents can feel superior.

And this is why TJ is such a healthier place now - they've begun replacing the parents. The kids selected by the old process have never been the problem.

How's TJ healthier now? Why suppressing the parents (the tax payers) is a good thing?

The focus is moving away from prestige and individualism and in the direction of a complete education that prepares students to collaborate with a 21st century population.

So, implementing discrimination and parent suppression would achieve that. Wow

Race is not considered during the admissions process.

And Asians have the highest rate and number of admissions. So...

No discrimination.

Don't lie. The main reason to keep changing the admission process is to engineer the racial demographic

Nope. It was to provide opportunities to kids from ALL middle schools.

You cannot get free rides all the time. At some point in your life you have to work hard to get ahead.

It's a public school that serves as the magnet for a whole region. If you don't like that, pay for private. After all, you can't get free rides all the time

This is a magnet school. If you don't like to work hard, why go there?

Why are you assuming the kids attending don't like to work hard? Public school students can only take classes and join clubs that their schools offer.

Not all the kids attending, especially those who work hard and have all the credentials. The one who doesn't cry for entitlement.
Only the lazy kids who just want a quota for them to get in TJ.

Is grammar not your strong suit? I'm sure there is a coherent thought in there somewhere, but it's sure hiding.

No, it is not. So what?

At least, I will not ask DOE to lower the english language standard to suit me.

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Anonymous wrote:It doesn't matter when the rankings were made. People have already said TJ's scores will go down because they are no longer selecting for students who do well on tests. A high ranking is not the goal.

However, scores might go up, since someone posted above that the scores are compared to the expectations based on the racial makeup of the school. With more blacks and Hispanics, who will presumably outperform the typical black and Hispanic student. the test rankings might go up.

But a high ranking is the goal. To the parents.
The fact that their child's education is excellent, that US News rankings don't really matter and that the article says there's little difference between 5th and 1st doesn't matter.
The rankings matter so the parents can feel superior.

And this is why TJ is such a healthier place now - they've begun replacing the parents. The kids selected by the old process have never been the problem.

How's TJ healthier now? Why suppressing the parents (the tax payers) is a good thing?

The focus is moving away from prestige and individualism and in the direction of a complete education that prepares students to collaborate with a 21st century population.

So, implementing discrimination and parent suppression would achieve that. Wow

Race is not considered during the admissions process.

And Asians have the highest rate and number of admissions. So...

No discrimination.

Don't lie. The main reason to keep changing the admission process is to engineer the racial demographic

Nope. It was to provide opportunities to kids from ALL middle schools.

You cannot get free rides all the time. At some point in your life you have to work hard to get ahead.

It's a public school that serves as the magnet for a whole region. If you don't like that, pay for private. After all, you can't get free rides all the time

This is a magnet school. If you don't like to work hard, why go there?

Why are you assuming the kids attending don't like to work hard? Public school students can only take classes and join clubs that their schools offer.

Not all the kids attending, especially those who work hard and have all the credentials. The one who doesn't cry for entitlement.
Only the lazy kids who just want a quota for them to get in TJ.

Is grammar not your strong suit? I'm sure there is a coherent thought in there somewhere, but it's sure hiding.

No, it is not. So what?

At least, I will not ask DOE to lower the english language standard to suit me.

Or, cry foul for equal outcome

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Amazingly, so many people in this forum believe discrimination and war on meritocracy are good for our country.

The situation is more nuanced than just labeling it a war on meritocracy. Instead, it involves imposing equal outcomes by masking it under the guise of meritocracy. Notably, the STEM-focused admissions test has been replaced by an irrelevant personal essay, making the admission process subjective instead of objective. While there still exists a merit-based facade, it's underscored by lowered GPA requirements and basic algebra as admission benchmarks. While there's an appearance of merit, it's more like a veneer, all with the deliberate aim of suppressing the representation of a specific minority community.

The average GPA is *higher* with recent classes.

Yes, because of grade inflation in general.

Did school also try to eliminate ranking to hide losers?

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Anonymous wrote:Amazingly, so many people in this forum believe discrimination and war on meritocracy are good for our country.

It’s not discrimination.

Not race based and Asians have the highest number and rate of admission.

It is discrimination. You can not based on race to reject applicants, regardless of the situation.

Not discrimination.

Asians students have the highest number of admits and the highest rate of admission.

It is wrong. The race-based admission process is unethical.

Chief Justice John Roberts wrote: "Many universities have for too long wrongly concluded that the touchstone of an individual's identity is not challenges bested, skills built, or lessons learned, but the color of their skin."

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Anonymous wrote:It doesn't matter when the rankings were made. People have already said TJ's scores will go down because they are no longer selecting for students who do well on tests. A high ranking is not the goal.

However, scores might go up, since someone posted above that the scores are compared to the expectations based on the racial makeup of the school. With more blacks and Hispanics, who will presumably outperform the typical black and Hispanic student. the test rankings might go up.

But a high ranking is the goal. To the parents.
The fact that their child's education is excellent, that US News rankings don't really matter and that the article says there's little difference between 5th and 1st doesn't matter.
The rankings matter so the parents can feel superior.

And this is why TJ is such a healthier place now - they've begun replacing the parents. The kids selected by the old process have never been the problem.

How's TJ healthier now? Why suppressing the parents (the tax payers) is a good thing?

The focus is moving away from prestige and individualism and in the direction of a complete education that prepares students to collaborate with a 21st century population.

So, implementing discrimination and parent suppression would achieve that. Wow

Race is not considered during the admissions process.

And Asians have the highest rate and number of admissions. So...

No discrimination.

Don't lie. The main reason to keep changing the admission process is to engineer the racial demographic

Nope. It was to provide opportunities to kids from ALL middle schools.

You cannot get free rides all the time. At some point in your life you have to work hard to get ahead.

It's a public school that serves as the magnet for a whole region. If you don't like that, pay for private. After all, you can't get free rides all the time

This is a magnet school. If you don't like to work hard, why go there?

These kids do work hard. Sit down.

Most do work hard, except the quota kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Amazingly, so many people in this forum believe discrimination and war on meritocracy are good for our country.

It’s not discrimination.

Not race based and Asians have the highest number and rate of admission.

It is discrimination. You can not based on race to reject applicants, regardless of the situation.

Not discrimination.

Asians students have the highest number of admits and the highest rate of admission.

It is wrong. The race-based admission process is unethical.

Chief Justice John Roberts wrote: "Many universities have for too long wrongly concluded that the touchstone of an individual's identity is not challenges bested, skills built, or lessons learned, but the color of their skin."

Why people don't want to play it fairly and objectively when it comes to school admission? Is it really that hard to study and learn?
I know being poor is a disadvantage. It should not be an excuse.
FCPS should provide more resources to help them to prepare for admission. Of course they took the easy way instead.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Amazingly, so many people in this forum believe discrimination and war on meritocracy are good for our country.

The situation is more nuanced than just labeling it a war on meritocracy. Instead, it involves imposing equal outcomes by masking it under the guise of meritocracy. Notably, the STEM-focused admissions test has been replaced by an irrelevant personal essay, making the admission process subjective instead of objective. While there still exists a merit-based facade, it's underscored by lowered GPA requirements and basic algebra as admission benchmarks. While there's an appearance of merit, it's more like a veneer, all with the deliberate aim of suppressing the representation of a specific minority community.

The average GPA is *higher* with recent classes.

Yes, because of grade inflation in general.

Either way, GPA requirements haven’t lowered. PP was lying.

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Anonymous wrote:It doesn't matter when the rankings were made. People have already said TJ's scores will go down because they are no longer selecting for students who do well on tests. A high ranking is not the goal.

However, scores might go up, since someone posted above that the scores are compared to the expectations based on the racial makeup of the school. With more blacks and Hispanics, who will presumably outperform the typical black and Hispanic student. the test rankings might go up.

But a high ranking is the goal. To the parents.
The fact that their child's education is excellent, that US News rankings don't really matter and that the article says there's little difference between 5th and 1st doesn't matter.
The rankings matter so the parents can feel superior.

And this is why TJ is such a healthier place now - they've begun replacing the parents. The kids selected by the old process have never been the problem.

How's TJ healthier now? Why suppressing the parents (the tax payers) is a good thing?

The focus is moving away from prestige and individualism and in the direction of a complete education that prepares students to collaborate with a 21st century population.

So, implementing discrimination and parent suppression would achieve that. Wow

Race is not considered during the admissions process.

And Asians have the highest rate and number of admissions. So...

No discrimination.

Don't lie. The main reason to keep changing the admission process is to engineer the racial demographic

Nope. It was to provide opportunities to kids from ALL middle schools.

You cannot get free rides all the time. At some point in your life you have to work hard to get ahead.

It's a public school that serves as the magnet for a whole region. If you don't like that, pay for private. After all, you can't get free rides all the time

This is a magnet school. If you don't like to work hard, why go there?

These kids do work hard. Sit down.

Most do work hard, except the quota kids.

There are no “quota kids”. These are all well-qualified kids who work hard.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Amazingly, so many people in this forum believe discrimination and war on meritocracy are good for our country.

It’s not discrimination.

Not race based and Asians have the highest number and rate of admission.

It is discrimination. You can not based on race to reject applicants, regardless of the situation.

Not discrimination.

Asians students have the highest number of admits and the highest rate of admission.

It is wrong. The race-based admission process is unethical.

Chief Justice John Roberts wrote: "Many universities have for too long wrongly concluded that the touchstone of an individual's identity is not challenges bested, skills built, or lessons learned, but the color of their skin."

It is not race-based.

And Asians students have the highest number of admits and the highest rate of admission.

No discrimination.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It doesn't matter when the rankings were made. People have already said TJ's scores will go down because they are no longer selecting for students who do well on tests. A high ranking is not the goal.

However, scores might go up, since someone posted above that the scores are compared to the expectations based on the racial makeup of the school. With more blacks and Hispanics, who will presumably outperform the typical black and Hispanic student. the test rankings might go up.

Sure, let's just ignore the fact that Asian American students with stronger merit credentials were denied admission. No racial manipulation of outcomes going on here.

It could be that the Asians being admitted now are not as high caliber as the ones admitted before. So this group would score worse compared to other Asians, or at least not as well as previous classes did. TJ's USA score would drop here.

This! No one wants to talk about the real issue.

Apparently, the Asian kids at TJ *before the change* were slipping. Look at this drop in rank.