You are SO not invited to my bat mitzvah - movie on netflix

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Anonymous wrote:My husband is Jewish and he rolled his eyes at the tremendous diversity in the Hebrew school scenes. While we understand and support representation in movies, it wasn’t realistic and to a certain extent co-opts what is a singular Jewish experience. (I’m Catholic so I don’t have a dog in this fight.)

He also pointed out that Jewish mothers spend a year+ planning the event (while the movie made it seem like they are thrown together, including shopping for the dress at the last minute).

I would have loved to see Sara Silverman or Seinfeld or another Jewish comedian make a cameo. Missed opportunity.

I was very distracted by this.

It's so sad that diversity throws off some posters. I love to see it in movies and it makes more people feel included.
We've watched it twice with groups of middle schoolers who could not get enough. Watching it the second time I caught more cute details that really cement this one as a quotable classic. I think it will be one they all watch several times.

If everything has to be racially diverse, then there can't be a show about Jews. This wasn't realistic. Would you be ok with a bunch of non-black people portraying the slaves in Roots?

I feel as if you're trolling here, but just to reiterate - diverse areas of the country do have a diverse population of Jewish kids. I'm speaking as a Jewish person in a diverse region. AFAIK, there were no white slaves pre-Civil War.

I am a different poster. Jews are a minority and we deserve to have our own space for art and culture just like other minorities deserve to have their own space. There was no need to misrepresent the Jewish day school or American Jews in the movie. There may be one or two non European looking kids in Jewish day schools at most.

It is not a documentary.

Also how do you feel about Hamilton?

DP here but Hamilton is different. It's a musical. You have to suspend belief. But go ahead and ignore a bunch of Jews all saying the same thing about being Jewish. I'm sure you know better.

Adam Sandler is jewish. Are you the jewish police? Do you get to decide how each and every jew expresses themselves? Why are you so offended by jews o color?

There’s a poster that shows up on every thread remotely Jewish to state what is Jewish or not and tell Jews of color, converts, or intermarriage they are not Jewish.

I’m guessing this is their favorite Seinfeld episode. https://youtu.be/u8QMIYv-y98?si=cOWxmoRiKjSb6mAx

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Anonymous wrote:My husband is Jewish and he rolled his eyes at the tremendous diversity in the Hebrew school scenes. While we understand and support representation in movies, it wasn’t realistic and to a certain extent co-opts what is a singular Jewish experience. (I’m Catholic so I don’t have a dog in this fight.)

He also pointed out that Jewish mothers spend a year+ planning the event (while the movie made it seem like they are thrown together, including shopping for the dress at the last minute).

I would have loved to see Sara Silverman or Seinfeld or another Jewish comedian make a cameo. Missed opportunity.

I was very distracted by this.

It's so sad that diversity throws off some posters. I love to see it in movies and it makes more people feel included.
We've watched it twice with groups of middle schoolers who could not get enough. Watching it the second time I caught more cute details that really cement this one as a quotable classic. I think it will be one they all watch several times.

If everything has to be racially diverse, then there can't be a show about Jews. This wasn't realistic. Would you be ok with a bunch of non-black people portraying the slaves in Roots?

I feel as if you're trolling here, but just to reiterate - diverse areas of the country do have a diverse population of Jewish kids. I'm speaking as a Jewish person in a diverse region. AFAIK, there were no white slaves pre-Civil War.

I am a different poster. Jews are a minority and we deserve to have our own space for art and culture just like other minorities deserve to have their own space. There was no need to misrepresent the Jewish day school or American Jews in the movie. There may be one or two non European looking kids in Jewish day schools at most.

It is not a documentary.

Also how do you feel about Hamilton?

DP but I agree with the PP. As for Hamilton, I thought it was ridiculous and akin to casting Porgy and Bess, The Color Purple, or A Raisin in the Sun with white people.

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Anonymous wrote:My husband is Jewish and he rolled his eyes at the tremendous diversity in the Hebrew school scenes. While we understand and support representation in movies, it wasn’t realistic and to a certain extent co-opts what is a singular Jewish experience. (I’m Catholic so I don’t have a dog in this fight.)

He also pointed out that Jewish mothers spend a year+ planning the event (while the movie made it seem like they are thrown together, including shopping for the dress at the last minute).

I would have loved to see Sara Silverman or Seinfeld or another Jewish comedian make a cameo. Missed opportunity.

I was very distracted by this.

It's so sad that diversity throws off some posters. I love to see it in movies and it makes more people feel included.
We've watched it twice with groups of middle schoolers who could not get enough. Watching it the second time I caught more cute details that really cement this one as a quotable classic. I think it will be one they all watch several times.

If everything has to be racially diverse, then there can't be a show about Jews. This wasn't realistic. Would you be ok with a bunch of non-black people portraying the slaves in Roots?

I feel as if you're trolling here, but just to reiterate - diverse areas of the country do have a diverse population of Jewish kids. I'm speaking as a Jewish person in a diverse region. AFAIK, there were no white slaves pre-Civil War.

I am a different poster. Jews are a minority and we deserve to have our own space for art and culture just like other minorities deserve to have their own space. There was no need to misrepresent the Jewish day school or American Jews in the movie. There may be one or two non European looking kids in Jewish day schools at most.

It is not a documentary.

Also how do you feel about Hamilton?

DP here but Hamilton is different. It's a musical. You have to suspend belief. But go ahead and ignore a bunch of Jews all saying the same thing about being Jewish. I'm sure you know better.

But not for fictional movies? It’s not a documentary.

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Anonymous wrote:My husband is Jewish and he rolled his eyes at the tremendous diversity in the Hebrew school scenes. While we understand and support representation in movies, it wasn’t realistic and to a certain extent co-opts what is a singular Jewish experience. (I’m Catholic so I don’t have a dog in this fight.)

He also pointed out that Jewish mothers spend a year+ planning the event (while the movie made it seem like they are thrown together, including shopping for the dress at the last minute).

I would have loved to see Sara Silverman or Seinfeld or another Jewish comedian make a cameo. Missed opportunity.

I was very distracted by this.

It's so sad that diversity throws off some posters. I love to see it in movies and it makes more people feel included.
We've watched it twice with groups of middle schoolers who could not get enough. Watching it the second time I caught more cute details that really cement this one as a quotable classic. I think it will be one they all watch several times.

If everything has to be racially diverse, then there can't be a show about Jews. This wasn't realistic. Would you be ok with a bunch of non-black people portraying the slaves in Roots?

I feel as if you're trolling here, but just to reiterate - diverse areas of the country do have a diverse population of Jewish kids. I'm speaking as a Jewish person in a diverse region. AFAIK, there were no white slaves pre-Civil War.

I am a different poster. Jews are a minority and we deserve to have our own space for art and culture just like other minorities deserve to have their own space. There was no need to misrepresent the Jewish day school or American Jews in the movie. There may be one or two non European looking kids in Jewish day schools at most.

It is not a documentary.

Also how do you feel about Hamilton?

DP here but Hamilton is different. It's a musical. You have to suspend belief. But go ahead and ignore a bunch of Jews all saying the same thing about being Jewish. I'm sure you know better.

But not for fictional movies? It’s not a documentary.

There were plenty of other Jews saying their experience with Hebrew school were different that you ignored. And you have managed to derail the thread with your obsession on who is Jewish or not when there were plenty of other interesting themes in the movie to discuss.

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Whatever happened to "representation matters"? It is a problem when our Jewish identity is not enough and in order to show up in popular culture we can only be tolerated if our Jewishness is tempered by some other, more fashionable identity.

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I'm one of the Jews who has diversity at our temple including Blacks and Latinos. (Suburb of NYC.) It scares me to think about how some of you would treat them if you were part of the community here.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm one of the Jews who has diversity at our temple including Blacks and Latinos. (Suburb of NYC.) It scares me to think about how some of you would treat them if you were part of the community here.

The issue isn't whether they are welcome in a traditional Jewish community. You must (or maybe you don't, since you say "temple"!) know that halacha has nothing to say about race as it is understood in America today.

But I think the complaint is really about the movie's decision to obscure Jewish ethnicity (as a stand-alone ethnicity) to pander to universalizing fashion. Jews can't just be Jews? We have to show that we're not too Jewey because we're still trying to make ourselves into something Gentile's find inoffensive? Spoiler: that has never, ever worked in the past, and we are supposed to be the people who remember.

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Anonymous wrote:Whatever happened to "representation matters"? It is a problem when our Jewish identity is not enough and in order to show up in popular culture we can only be tolerated if our Jewishness is tempered by some other, more fashionable identity.

+1 It's a double standard here.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm one of the Jews who has diversity at our temple including Blacks and Latinos. (Suburb of NYC.) It scares me to think about how some of you would treat them if you were part of the community here.

The issue isn't whether they are welcome in a traditional Jewish community. You must (or maybe you don't, since you say "temple"!) know that halacha has nothing to say about race as it is understood in America today.

But I think the complaint is really about the movie's decision to obscure Jewish ethnicity (as a stand-alone ethnicity) to pander to universalizing fashion. Jews can't just be Jews? We have to show that we're not too Jewey because we're still trying to make ourselves into something Gentile's find inoffensive? Spoiler: that has never, ever worked in the past, and we are supposed to be the people who remember.

This.

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Anonymous wrote:If you’re Jewish or grew up going to bat mitzvahs, watch this! The Sandler kids are very talented and this hit close to home.

Ech, it got overrated, over publicized and didn’t live up to the hype.

She’s a cute girl for sure but boy did some characters need to learn to drop jerks like a hot potato.

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Was that their day school or their weekend Hebrew school?

I didn’t understand the Ecuadorian exchange student or whatever.

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Can’t believe the mom send a video to another mom without looking at it first.

And why didn’t someone literally pull the power plug on that terrible video!!?!!? The protagonist should have been hurdling through the room the second she saw it pop up!

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Anonymous wrote:Just watched it last night (not with kids, as they are not quite tweens). Gosh the kids being mean girls was really hard to watch. Is this really what it's like to be 12 now? Sending ""sexy pics" to boys? Ugh.

+1

Movie didn’t really tie it together how damaging the internet, photos, videos and social media can be, forever.

In fact the kumbaya ending sends a different message

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Anonymous wrote:And considering there are Ethiopian Jews and Sephardic Jews and Jews from Latin America your version of Judaism being just white isn’t even accurate.

I know these people exist…but they aren’t typically in NJ Hebrew schools…where this movie is set.

ICYMI: the Jewish faith…like virtually all religions…is segregated based on belief/faith. Temples and Hebrew schools are cliquey.

I had assumed this was Great Neck, but maybe with the bluffs over the Hudson it’s NJ.

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone experienced what it is like to be a shiksa in conservative, orthodox community?
My guess is that that person would most likely not be invited to Bat Mitzvah
This story doesn’t address the financial hardship of hosting these parties
Imagine if the family was to experience unemployment at the same time, or if one earning parent had to go and be on disability

Lots of movies and books on this. As long as you’re not marriage age, anything goes.