Men, do you care if your wife puts effort into her appearance?

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Anonymous wrote:Stay thin and in shape, but it doesn’t matter what you wear around the house. Any man would take that over a chunky woman who dresses up with makeup.

That last sentence just isn’t true. What is it with the posters who constantly state that no man could possibly prefer a heavier woman to a thinner woman.

Well, look at celebrity men who have a choice to pick who anyone they want. On a scale 1-10 how many of them are with heavier women?

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Anonymous wrote:Let me get this straight. Women keep starting threads asking what guys want in a woman and then when guys respond we inevitably get the fatty defense force on full assault mode. The men are told they couldn't possibly dislike fat women even if they are well taken care of and then it devolves into a "u fat" vs "u incel" argument. Eventually multiple women conclude that they don't care what men think anyway. If you don't want to hear that most men don't like fat women, which is well demonstrated by large sample survey evidence, then don't start threads asking what men like.

It was mostly women, not men, remaking the fat comments.

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Now I understand all the dead bedrooms in this forum. You are all so mean and unpleasant

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Stay thin and in shape, but it doesn’t matter what you wear around the house. Any man would take that over a chunky woman who dresses up with makeup.

That last sentence just isn’t true. What is it with the posters who constantly state that no man could possibly prefer a heavier woman to a thinner woman.

Well, look at celebrity men who have a choice to pick who anyone they want. On a scale 1-10 how many of them are with heavier women?

Seriously? Umm does the average man in the dmv look anything like those celebrity men? Has it occurred to you that when you are extremely attractive and wealthy you can have the most beautiful woman? The pudgy balding men who frequent these forums are not the same caliber.

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Over 30% of women don't wear make-up so continually perpetuating this notion that all men are lying and ignorant when they say they prefer no make-up is really just saying you think that 30% of women are so hideously ugly that no man has ever found them attractive.

Many men find the no make-up look attractive. Despite the beliefs of make-up wearing women that the 30% who don't wear it have never been seen as attractive, that isn't actually the case. Many women who never or rarely wear any make-up have are seen as attractive to others.

And the whole men are so dumb that they can't tell if someone has a face full of make up on is just a sexist trope.

IF someone has a very subtle, natural look, it might be hard for anyone man or woman to tell they are wearing make-up but that doesn't mean the man wouldn't still find her attractive without it.

Us non make-up wearing women are not nearly as hideous and unable to attract any male attention as many of you posters think.

[Anonymous]

We live at the beach and surf or paddleboard everyday. My only makeup is a tinted spf and maybe waterproof mascara. The only thing he comments on is when I dry and iron my curls away. It’s not worth the effort when I’m getting back in the water the next day, but work travel (blowout lasts the week with my hair texture) or formal events get a mention from him.

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Honey, the title says "DCUM Moms and Dads." The only time you see posters invoke the "this is a forum for moms" is when they (read that as you) get called out on a post.

BTW - You don't speak for all women. You may only speak for the women who do not know how to use an apostrophe.

it is a mom forum. hence why "dads" is minimized. And men who spent hours arguing with women online are low value regardless of where they do it. It's cringe.

You should take two more semesters of "Intro to Basic English Grammar" at NoVA, sweetheart. Focus on capitalization and subject/verb agreement.

Put your swill from Total Wine down, and pay attention to what you are writing. Drunk and stupid is no way to go through life.

And the funny thing is the men here giving sassy comebacks straight out of an episode of Basketball Wives surely would consider themselves "high value" and can't understand why theyre all alone and no woman wants them nor cares what they have to say. Major LOL

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Anonymous wrote:Stay thin and in shape, but it doesn’t matter what you wear around the house. Any man would take that over a chunky woman who dresses up with makeup.

Not all men like skinny minnies

+1

I am 6’4” muscular 255 lbs. Skinny woman do nothing for me.

5’4” - 135-155 with curves is ideal.

That's still well within a healthy range for a woman of that height. So you like healthy women with curves, not overweight women who claim to be curvy.

Im 5'4, 140lbs, 38, 31, 38 and wear a size 6 pants. Id like to lose 10 lbs but I'm active and definitely not fat, just normal.

Size 6 doesn't allow a 31 inch waist. A size 6 would cause a muffin top.

PP with 31 inch waist (can’t believe I just typed that omg). I def do wear a size 6, just bought the pace skirt from lululemon in that size and align leggings in a 6. I tried 8s in both and they were way too big and stretchy. Its just my body type.

Maybe I need to measure my waist again? Maybe I’m measuring wrong? Idk y’all. Now im having an existential crisis. Thanks a lot dcum.

I’m also a size 6 with 31” waist

I’m a size 6 with a 30” waist. (NP)

What size waist jeans do you get? I can see how stretchy pants in a 6 would "fit" a 30/31" waist, but jeans definitely would not.

I wear a 29 in jcrew skinny jeans. I think that’s a 10?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Stay thin and in shape, but it doesn’t matter what you wear around the house. Any man would take that over a chunky woman who dresses up with makeup.

That last sentence just isn’t true. What is it with the posters who constantly state that no man could possibly prefer a heavier woman to a thinner woman.

Well, look at celebrity men who have a choice to pick who anyone they want. On a scale 1-10 how many of them are with heavier women?

Seriously? Umm does the average man in the dmv look anything like those celebrity men? Has it occurred to you that when you are extremely attractive and wealthy you can have the most beautiful woman? The pudgy balding men who frequent these forums are not the same caliber.

I think PP’s point was duh, thin / not-fat woman are preferable

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Anonymous wrote:Stay thin and in shape, but it doesn’t matter what you wear around the house. Any man would take that over a chunky woman who dresses up with makeup.

That last sentence just isn’t true. What is it with the posters who constantly state that no man could possibly prefer a heavier woman to a thinner woman.

Well, look at celebrity men who have a choice to pick who anyone they want. On a scale 1-10 how many of them are with heavier women?

Seriously? Umm does the average man in the dmv look anything like those celebrity men? Has it occurred to you that when you are extremely attractive and wealthy you can have the most beautiful woman? The pudgy balding men who frequent these forums are not the same caliber.

Also, they have to pair up with partners who look good for publicity sake. Have you noticed these relationships never last?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Over 30% of women don't wear make-up so continually perpetuating this notion that all men are lying and ignorant when they say they prefer no make-up is really just saying you think that 30% of women are so hideously ugly that no man has ever found them attractive.

Many men find the no make-up look attractive. Despite the beliefs of make-up wearing women that the 30% who don't wear it have never been seen as attractive, that isn't actually the case. Many women who never or rarely wear any make-up have are seen as attractive to others.

And the whole men are so dumb that they can't tell if someone has a face full of make up on is just a sexist trope.

IF someone has a very subtle, natural look, it might be hard for anyone man or woman to tell they are wearing make-up but that doesn't mean the man wouldn't still find her attractive without it.

Us non make-up wearing women are not nearly as hideous and unable to attract any male attention as many of you posters think.

Do you see what you wrote? Yes, you acknowledge that men and women may not be able to recognize well done make up. If men find you so attractive without makeup, why the defensive multiparagraph post?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Stay thin and in shape, but it doesn’t matter what you wear around the house. Any man would take that over a chunky woman who dresses up with makeup.

That last sentence just isn’t true. What is it with the posters who constantly state that no man could possibly prefer a heavier woman to a thinner woman.

Well, look at celebrity men who have a choice to pick who anyone they want. On a scale 1-10 how many of them are with heavier women?

Seriously? Umm does the average man in the dmv look anything like those celebrity men? Has it occurred to you that when you are extremely attractive and wealthy you can have the most beautiful woman? The pudgy balding men who frequent these forums are not the same caliber.

Exactly. these men on here are so delusional. Literally no awareness of how they look, just some porn sick dream of what they can pressure their partner into looking like. The funny thing is I date almost exclusively gym bros who are absolutely ripped and shredded. I'm mid sized, I guess, and they love it. They tend to want girls with some curves or "meat". I think it's a boomer thing to obsess over rail thin women- it's very strange to me, when these men are literally curvier than the women they want to be with, lmaoooo

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Anonymous wrote:Stay thin and in shape, but it doesn’t matter what you wear around the house. Any man would take that over a chunky woman who dresses up with makeup.

That last sentence just isn’t true. What is it with the posters who constantly state that no man could possibly prefer a heavier woman to a thinner woman.

Well, look at celebrity men who have a choice to pick who anyone they want. On a scale 1-10 how many of them are with heavier women?

Seriously? Umm does the average man in the dmv look anything like those celebrity men? Has it occurred to you that when you are extremely attractive and wealthy you can have the most beautiful woman? The pudgy balding men who frequent these forums are not the same caliber.

Exactly. these men on here are so delusional. Literally no awareness of how they look, just some porn sick dream of what they can pressure their partner into looking like. The funny thing is I date almost exclusively gym bros who are absolutely ripped and shredded. I'm mid sized, I guess, and they love it. They tend to want girls with some curves or "meat". I think it's a boomer thing to obsess over rail thin women- it's very strange to me, when these men are literally curvier than the women they want to be with, lmaoooo

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Mine just cares if I'm happy to get naked and in bed with him. Seriously. He doesn't notice much else physically. We're happy.

Thanks be to mercy for a little connubial warmth. Every so often on TikTok I run across the account of Broadway performer Mandy Patinkin and his wife - that’s the sort of relationship women long for at 70. A home filled with books, humor and quirky conversation over a glass of wine whilst making dinner together. A man that becomes less politically conservative with age and loves you and your grey hair and slightly podgy body.

This is nice and what I (a 51 year old man) aspire to.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Over 30% of women don't wear make-up so continually perpetuating this notion that all men are lying and ignorant when they say they prefer no make-up is really just saying you think that 30% of women are so hideously ugly that no man has ever found them attractive.

Many men find the no make-up look attractive. Despite the beliefs of make-up wearing women that the 30% who don't wear it have never been seen as attractive, that isn't actually the case. Many women who never or rarely wear any make-up have are seen as attractive to others.

And the whole men are so dumb that they can't tell if someone has a face full of make up on is just a sexist trope.

IF someone has a very subtle, natural look, it might be hard for anyone man or woman to tell they are wearing make-up but that doesn't mean the man wouldn't still find her attractive without it.

Us non make-up wearing women are not nearly as hideous and unable to attract any male attention as many of you posters think.

Do you see what you wrote? Yes, you acknowledge that men and women may not be able to recognize well done make up. If men find you so attractive without makeup, why the defensive multiparagraph post?

The fact that they may not be able to tell doesn't mean that if the make-up isn't there or someone isn't wearing make-up that they can't be found attractive. That is what many women in this thread are insisting. That when a man says he likes a no make-up look, that isn't humanly possible and no woman without make up has ever been seen as attractive - that is means he really only likes women with make-up but he can't tell they are wearing it and that he and all men still think the 30% who don't wear it are hideous. It is a ridiculous notion that women need to stop perpetauting and teachign their daughter= that they are hideous and it isn't possible for a man to like them or be attracted to them without make-up. That they always need to have make-up on if they want a man to find them attractive. It isn't true. Men can be and are attracted to women withuot make-up and many prefer it to a a made-up look. As evidenced by women who don't wear it. So stop teaching your girls that they are hideous without it. That is what you are saying when you insist that men are actually not attracted to women without make-up and they just don't realize the women they are attracted to have make-up on. Women do so much hard to their daughters with these ridiculous beauty statements and expectations. It isn't society saying anything - it is their own mothers perpetuating these ridiculous ideas.