At least 8 people shot & killed in Allen, TX mall today

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am 100% for banning the sale of assault rifles and making it much harder to purchase any weapon, but the reality is this won’t actually prevent these shootings. It just won’t. These mass shootings are planned. These murderers can and will plot and patiently wait to pull it together. Mass shootings have happened in states like CA where it is more difficult to purchase a gun.

Mental healthcare is important, but it won’t be enough either. The parents of the recent TN shooter were on top of their kid’s mental health. Nonetheless…

We need to find a way for people who are truly worried about individuals to flag them so they can’t access guns and any weapons they already have can be taken away. Sadly, even that isn’t foolproof.

And remember: while mass shootings are the most terrifying since anyone could be at the wrong place at the wrong time, most shootings are suicides and individual run of the mill violence. Both tend to involve basic hand guns.

It’s all bad. The genie is out of the bottle. There’s no easy solution.

When the AWB was in place, mass shootings went down significantly. When it expired, mass shootings shot up through the roof.
Would an AWB stop all mass shootings? No. But it WOULD stop quite a few of them.

Even though it's a partial and imperfect solution, do not let perfect be the enemy of good.
We need to reinstate an AWB, ALONG WITH pursuing other measures.

Agreed. 100%.

But I’m not convinced we will see a dramatic drop in mass shootings. I think the issue goes far beyond access. Mass shootings in and of themselves have become a cultural phenomenon—a preferred mechanism for damaged people to feel big and powerful as they make their mark. There is a psychological aspect fueled by social media and traditional media coverage coupled with the immortality provided by the internet. I don’t think it’s an apples to apples comparison using data from a time before these kinds of shootings became so common. Times have changed and it’s far more than an access issue.

I wonder if anyone is studying this and has offered more comprehensive solutions?

yes, they are. you can read about it at: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/10/19/thresholds-of-violence

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There is a very high level of antisemitism in thr hispsnic community so at least it’s a shared view with neo Nazis. But it’s also ignored by society as well. Assuming he is neo Nazi I doubt this attack had anything to do with antisemitism.

He killed a Korean family and an Indian woman.

This community has a vibrant and growing affluent Asian and Indian population, including Asian-owned businesses (and landlords).

I wouldn’t be surprised if that was the racial/ethnic motive.

Black individuals during the WATTS riots went after Asian-owned businesses. Are those people also white supremacists?

DP

Have you ever filled out paperwork at the doctor’s office, your kid’s school, etc.?

The demographics ask if you are a non-Hispanic Caucasian. Why? Because many/most Hispanics are considered white. Hispanics can absolutely be white supremacists. Anyone who studies such things or works in diverse communities realizes that all groups have subsets that embrace stereotypes, bias, hate, etc. All groups.

I worry that all the silos people are building to distinguish their group (whether highlighting their plight or their success) are actually fueling hate among others.

It’s human for people who are struggling to search for someone or a group of someone’s to blame for their situation. Hate and hopelessness tend to need a target.

The shooter didn’t live in Allen—an affluent area. The shooter lived in a motel in North Dallas. He targeted an upscale area with an affluent and diverse population.

Well stated. We won’t be able to get past those silos until that stops being collected.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is a very high level of antisemitism in thr hispsnic community so at least it’s a shared view with neo Nazis. But it’s also ignored by society as well. Assuming he is neo Nazi I doubt this attack had anything to do with antisemitism.

He killed a Korean family and an Indian woman.

This community has a vibrant and growing affluent Asian and Indian population, including Asian-owned businesses (and landlords).

I wouldn’t be surprised if that was the racial/ethnic motive.

Allen and Plano have exponential Asian growth — yeah good point

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am 100% for banning the sale of assault rifles and making it much harder to purchase any weapon, but the reality is this won’t actually prevent these shootings. It just won’t. These mass shootings are planned. These murderers can and will plot and patiently wait to pull it together. Mass shootings have happened in states like CA where it is more difficult to purchase a gun.

Mental healthcare is important, but it won’t be enough either. The parents of the recent TN shooter were on top of their kid’s mental health. Nonetheless…

We need to find a way for people who are truly worried about individuals to flag them so they can’t access guns and any weapons they already have can be taken away. Sadly, even that isn’t foolproof.

And remember: while mass shootings are the most terrifying since anyone could be at the wrong place at the wrong time, most shootings are suicides and individual run of the mill violence. Both tend to involve basic hand guns.

It’s all bad. The genie is out of the bottle. There’s no easy solution.

If banning weapons won't prevent these shootings, what is the point of banning them?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am 100% for banning the sale of assault rifles and making it much harder to purchase any weapon, but the reality is this won’t actually prevent these shootings. It just won’t. These mass shootings are planned. These murderers can and will plot and patiently wait to pull it together. Mass shootings have happened in states like CA where it is more difficult to purchase a gun.

Mental healthcare is important, but it won’t be enough either. The parents of the recent TN shooter were on top of their kid’s mental health. Nonetheless…

We need to find a way for people who are truly worried about individuals to flag them so they can’t access guns and any weapons they already have can be taken away. Sadly, even that isn’t foolproof.

And remember: while mass shootings are the most terrifying since anyone could be at the wrong place at the wrong time, most shootings are suicides and individual run of the mill violence. Both tend to involve basic hand guns.

It’s all bad. The genie is out of the bottle. There’s no easy solution.

If banning weapons won't prevent these shootings, what is the point of banning them?

It might work. Might as well try. Why not try?

Perhaps ask why anyone should have access to assault weapons?

There’s no legit purpose. All it does is create the opportunity for mayhem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am 100% for banning the sale of assault rifles and making it much harder to purchase any weapon, but the reality is this won’t actually prevent these shootings. It just won’t. These mass shootings are planned. These murderers can and will plot and patiently wait to pull it together. Mass shootings have happened in states like CA where it is more difficult to purchase a gun.

Mental healthcare is important, but it won’t be enough either. The parents of the recent TN shooter were on top of their kid’s mental health. Nonetheless…

We need to find a way for people who are truly worried about individuals to flag them so they can’t access guns and any weapons they already have can be taken away. Sadly, even that isn’t foolproof.

And remember: while mass shootings are the most terrifying since anyone could be at the wrong place at the wrong time, most shootings are suicides and individual run of the mill violence. Both tend to involve basic hand guns.

It’s all bad. The genie is out of the bottle. There’s no easy solution.

If banning weapons won't prevent these shootings, what is the point of banning them?

It might work. Might as well try. Why not try?

Perhaps ask why anyone should have access to assault weapons?

There’s no legit purpose. All it does is create the opportunity for mayhem.

This. Will it prevent all mass shootings? No. Will it prevent some? Definitely.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am 100% for banning the sale of assault rifles and making it much harder to purchase any weapon, but the reality is this won’t actually prevent these shootings. It just won’t. These mass shootings are planned. These murderers can and will plot and patiently wait to pull it together. Mass shootings have happened in states like CA where it is more difficult to purchase a gun.

Mental healthcare is important, but it won’t be enough either. The parents of the recent TN shooter were on top of their kid’s mental health. Nonetheless…

We need to find a way for people who are truly worried about individuals to flag them so they can’t access guns and any weapons they already have can be taken away. Sadly, even that isn’t foolproof.

And remember: while mass shootings are the most terrifying since anyone could be at the wrong place at the wrong time, most shootings are suicides and individual run of the mill violence. Both tend to involve basic hand guns.

It’s all bad. The genie is out of the bottle. There’s no easy solution.

If banning weapons won't prevent these shootings, what is the point of banning them?

It won't work -at first- b/c there are too many out there. Thanks, Republicans.

But over time, those will age out, you have gun buybacks, etc. And those numbers will go down. Maybe not in my lifetime as I'm older. But over time.

And if SCOTUS and our government can regain their brain cells and their balls on the issue, we may be able to move a bit faster.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am 100% for banning the sale of assault rifles and making it much harder to purchase any weapon, but the reality is this won’t actually prevent these shootings. It just won’t. These mass shootings are planned. These murderers can and will plot and patiently wait to pull it together. Mass shootings have happened in states like CA where it is more difficult to purchase a gun.

Mental healthcare is important, but it won’t be enough either. The parents of the recent TN shooter were on top of their kid’s mental health. Nonetheless…

We need to find a way for people who are truly worried about individuals to flag them so they can’t access guns and any weapons they already have can be taken away. Sadly, even that isn’t foolproof.

And remember: while mass shootings are the most terrifying since anyone could be at the wrong place at the wrong time, most shootings are suicides and individual run of the mill violence. Both tend to involve basic hand guns.

It’s all bad. The genie is out of the bottle. There’s no easy solution.

If banning weapons won't prevent these shootings, what is the point of banning them?

It won't work -at first- b/c there are too many out there. Thanks, Republicans.

But over time, those will age out, you have gun buybacks, etc. And those numbers will go down. Maybe not in my lifetime as I'm older. But over time.

And if SCOTUS and our government can regain their brain cells and their balls on the issue, we may be able to move a bit faster.

But wait, isn't the problem with assault-rifle-delivered mass shootings "mental health"? Why should limit access to more assault rifles?

After all, who are we to limit mass shooters from the assault rifles they desire?

MAGA!

[Anonymous]

Americans are 20x more likely to die of gun violence than people in other developed nations. Is it because Europeans love Jesus more than Americans do?

[Anonymous]

BAN MAIMING AMMUNITION - specifically 5.56x45mm NATO and .223 Remington rounds. Go after the *specifically and purposefully maiming ammunition used by modular semiautomatic rifles,* just as we've successfully done with armor-piercing ammunition.

Firearm experts are correct when they say that the semiautomatic AR-15 rifle is not a military weapon. The actual Army M4 RIFLE
can fire in fully-automatic and three-shot burst modes. *BUT,* both fire the *SAME MILITARY ROUND.*

*5.56x45mm NATO and .223 Remington rounds* should be illegal outside of military contexts. It's not a hunting round, and it's not necessary to remove limbs, destroy all internal organs, or obliterate heads in order to pursue self-protection.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am 100% for banning the sale of assault rifles and making it much harder to purchase any weapon, but the reality is this won’t actually prevent these shootings. It just won’t. These mass shootings are planned. These murderers can and will plot and patiently wait to pull it together. Mass shootings have happened in states like CA where it is more difficult to purchase a gun.

Mental healthcare is important, but it won’t be enough either. The parents of the recent TN shooter were on top of their kid’s mental health. Nonetheless…

We need to find a way for people who are truly worried about individuals to flag them so they can’t access guns and any weapons they already have can be taken away. Sadly, even that isn’t foolproof.

And remember: while mass shootings are the most terrifying since anyone could be at the wrong place at the wrong time, most shootings are suicides and individual run of the mill violence. Both tend to involve basic hand guns.

It’s all bad. The genie is out of the bottle. There’s no easy solution.

If banning weapons won't prevent these shootings, what is the point of banning them?

It won't work -at first- b/c there are too many out there. Thanks, Republicans.

But over time, those will age out, you have gun buybacks, etc. And those numbers will go down. Maybe not in my lifetime as I'm older. But over time.

And if SCOTUS and our government can regain their brain cells and their balls on the issue, we may be able to move a bit faster.

It'll take time, but that's the hope. We'll need Gen-Z, who grew up in this age of Republican-enabled mass murder, to take the dominant leadership role. That could involve re-making the Supreme Court with justices willing to re-interpret the "well-regulated militia" part of the Second Amendment the same way the current SC re-interpreted the settled case law Roe v. Wade. Alternatively, it feels like we're at a copy-cat precipice where these mass murder events are going to completely spiral out of control (i.e., many more than now), and the Republicans won't be able to ignore it any more.

[Anonymous]

Investigators want to know more about the gunman’s motive, in part to determine whether the attack may have been connected to any wider threat to public safety that may persist even though the gunman is dead.

Two law enforcement officials said Mr. Garcia appeared to espouse white supremacist ideology, though it was not yet determined whether the shooting was an act of domestic terrorism.

At the shooting on Saturday, the gunman was wearing a patch that said “RWDS,” an abbreviation known to stand for “Right Wing Death Squad,” according to one official.

The phrase harks back to Gen. Augusto Pinochet’s violent right-wing regime in Chile in the 1970s and 1980s. The Pinochet government was notorious for assembling death squads that murdered their leftist enemies.

More recently, neo-Nazi groups in the United States and members of other far-right organizations like the Proud Boys have claimed the phrase, and often wear the abbreviation on clothing or patches. The Proud Boys in particular often combine RWDS labels with shirts reading, “Pinochet Did Nothing Wrong.”
The online profile being investigated also includes several pictures showing a black tactical vest with an RWDS patch. In addition, the profile includes a screenshot from Google Maps showing the time at which the mall where the shooting took place was likely to be busiest.

Though the writer of the posts suggests several times that they are of Hispanic origin — at one point indicating they are originally from Mexico — there is also a clear embrace of white supremacy. As recently as last month, the account contained a post saying that “white people and Hispanics have a lot in common.”

Delusional idiot.

[Anonymous]

We lost 13 leaving Afghanistan and the republicans and conservatives call it a total disaster.

Texas 22 people kill and 25 wounded in under a week and it Texas handles this stuff so well because they are republicans.

Saw that loser governor having a press conference at a military base. He was deploying troops to the border. He can not keep people safe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is a very high level of antisemitism in thr hispsnic community so at least it’s a shared view with neo Nazis. But it’s also ignored by society as well. Assuming he is neo Nazi I doubt this attack had anything to do with antisemitism.

He killed a Korean family and an Indian woman.

This community has a vibrant and growing affluent Asian and Indian population, including Asian-owned businesses (and landlords).

I wouldn’t be surprised if that was the racial/ethnic motive.

More info on the family. So horrible even for the little boy who survived.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Shooter identified as Mauricio Martinez Garcia

“The gunman who opened fire on an outlet mall in a Dallas suburb Saturday, killing at least eight people, was a man in his early 30s who may have had white supremacist or neo-Nazi beliefs, people familiar with the investigation said Sunday.

They said a patch the gunman was wearing on his chest at the time of the shooting suggested the potential white supremacist leanings. Authorities have not released a motive.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/05/07/texas-allen-outlets-shooting-dallas/?itid=hp-top-table-main_p001_f001

I would say that these reporters need to get better sources. Seems these "people familiar with the investigation" are pushing a narrative.
Mauricio Martinez Garcia a white supremacist?