Another pit bull attack

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And then those deranged pit bull owners take those dogs that aren’t supposed to be around kids under ten to children’s parks, you know, to socialize their child mauling weapon. Or to Home Depot for same - certainly no kids at parks or at Home Depot with their parents. And they take them on walks, unmuzzled, with retractable leashes, or off leash, even, because they want to dispel the “myths” about their blood sport pets.

These deranged animals - and it’s more than five breeds, Ms. Pit Bull owner - and their equally bad owners should not be in society. Regretfully, every Tom, Dick and Jenny with a pit bull is also irresponsibly breeding their dogs.

Are the pits who are mauling people the type of pits being taken to Home Depot? Are these attacks regularly happening at public playgrounds? Because you lose any credibility with these sort of statements. As problematic as you may think pit and pit owners are, the owners who even know proper socialization is a thing are not the problem and you just continue to sound unhinged when you make these sweeping statements.

No, I don’t sound unhinged in the slightest. So let’s review this short strand:
- pit bull advocate says pit bull rescues already don’t put semi dangerous dogs in homes with children
- I reply and said but then they take these dogs out, unmuzzled, around children
- now you say they should be “socializing” these dangerous dogs around children?

And you say I’ve lost credibility and am “unhinged.” No, I believe in observable reality; you deny it. And you’re making insults toward me.

You can’t socialize out breeding. These dogs were bred for blood sport. That’s what they want to do, that’s what makes them happy. It’s their work.

Me again. Since this never happens, of course, I will never be able to find any evidence:
Brooklyn Park, MN Two off leash pit bulls brought to the park by their totally irresponsible crap bag owner bites a toddler. Because the crap bag owner fled the scene, both the mother and toddler had to have rabies treatment, too. https://ccxmedia.org/news/pit-bull-attacks-child-at-brooklyn-center-playground/

Pit bull bites several children on an Oklahoma school playground, then gets into the school:

Pit bull bites several children in a Missouri school playground:

Brooklyn Park, MN again, only this pit bull got shot and killed after it rushed the officers responding to the 911 call for a child being attacked.

Somehow the pit got loose in Detroit and bit a 12 year old girl’s leg. https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/local/2020/09/25/12-year-old-girl-attacked-by-pitbull-in-lincoln-park-neighborhood/

How many kids need to be offered up to the gaping maw of blood sport dogs? Why should the rest of us and our children be offered up on a platter for these breeds to gnaw on in the name of “socializing” them?

NP here. I‘ve definitely seen people bring their pits (sometimes more than 1) on the local trails, near kids’ parks, to Gravelly Point, etc. It sucks because I have small children and I absolutely am unwilling to risk their safety just so someone can own a dog bred for violence. If they were only mauling their idiot owners, the rest of us wouldn’t care so much. But of course they make the rest of us deal with what they deem an acceptable risk.

Also, you forgot the story about the child mauled walking to their bus stop.

No one is forcing you to do anything. Seems you are making the right choice for yourself and staying home.

Umm no. People being able to safely leave the house trumps dogs. I hope your garbage pit bulls get hit by a car and die.

Thank you, but I don't have pit bulls. Continue making good choices!

Any are you so defensive about some trash dogs that you don’t even own? If they all got hit by cars and died tomorrow the world would be a better place. That is a fact. Think of how many innocent children would be saved from death and mauling of this breed was just gone.

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*Why are you

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Two 11 year olds mauled by a neighbor’s dog and the idiot owners still claim “he’s a good dog.” and they want to return him to the rescue … why, so some other innocent kids can be mauled again? People like this should go to jail, and get sued for every penny they’re worth.

https://www.cbsnews.com/pittsburgh/news/2-children-attacked-dog-hopewell-township/

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And then those deranged pit bull owners take those dogs that aren’t supposed to be around kids under ten to children’s parks, you know, to socialize their child mauling weapon. Or to Home Depot for same - certainly no kids at parks or at Home Depot with their parents. And they take them on walks, unmuzzled, with retractable leashes, or off leash, even, because they want to dispel the “myths” about their blood sport pets.

These deranged animals - and it’s more than five breeds, Ms. Pit Bull owner - and their equally bad owners should not be in society. Regretfully, every Tom, Dick and Jenny with a pit bull is also irresponsibly breeding their dogs.

Are the pits who are mauling people the type of pits being taken to Home Depot? Are these attacks regularly happening at public playgrounds? Because you lose any credibility with these sort of statements. As problematic as you may think pit and pit owners are, the owners who even know proper socialization is a thing are not the problem and you just continue to sound unhinged when you make these sweeping statements.

No, I don’t sound unhinged in the slightest. So let’s review this short strand:
- pit bull advocate says pit bull rescues already don’t put semi dangerous dogs in homes with children
- I reply and said but then they take these dogs out, unmuzzled, around children
- now you say they should be “socializing” these dangerous dogs around children?

And you say I’ve lost credibility and am “unhinged.” No, I believe in observable reality; you deny it. And you’re making insults toward me.

You can’t socialize out breeding. These dogs were bred for blood sport. That’s what they want to do, that’s what makes them happy. It’s their work.

Me again. Since this never happens, of course, I will never be able to find any evidence:
Brooklyn Park, MN Two off leash pit bulls brought to the park by their totally irresponsible crap bag owner bites a toddler. Because the crap bag owner fled the scene, both the mother and toddler had to have rabies treatment, too. https://ccxmedia.org/news/pit-bull-attacks-child-at-brooklyn-center-playground/

Pit bull bites several children on an Oklahoma school playground, then gets into the school:

Pit bull bites several children in a Missouri school playground:

Brooklyn Park, MN again, only this pit bull got shot and killed after it rushed the officers responding to the 911 call for a child being attacked.

Somehow the pit got loose in Detroit and bit a 12 year old girl’s leg. https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/local/2020/09/25/12-year-old-girl-attacked-by-pitbull-in-lincoln-park-neighborhood/

How many kids need to be offered up to the gaping maw of blood sport dogs? Why should the rest of us and our children be offered up on a platter for these breeds to gnaw on in the name of “socializing” them?

NP here. I‘ve definitely seen people bring their pits (sometimes more than 1) on the local trails, near kids’ parks, to Gravelly Point, etc. It sucks because I have small children and I absolutely am unwilling to risk their safety just so someone can own a dog bred for violence. If they were only mauling their idiot owners, the rest of us wouldn’t care so much. But of course they make the rest of us deal with what they deem an acceptable risk.

Also, you forgot the story about the child mauled walking to their bus stop.

No one is forcing you to do anything. Seems you are making the right choice for yourself and staying home.

Umm no. People being able to safely leave the house trumps dogs. I hope your garbage pit bulls get hit by a car and die.

Thank you, but I don't have pit bulls. Continue making good choices!

Any are you so defensive about some trash dogs that you don’t even own? If they all got hit by cars and died tomorrow the world would be a better place. That is a fact. Think of how many innocent children would be saved from death and mauling of this breed was just gone.

I don't believe they're trash and should die. It might be hard to believe, but not everyone is going to agree with you. Saying people should give up their dogs to make someone else feel comfortable is just unreasonable. You can only control yourself and your own actions, so do that.

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6 year old killed by family pit bull mix. They had the dog since it was a puppy.

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/florida-dog-attack-leaves-6-year-old-boy-dead/

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And then those deranged pit bull owners take those dogs that aren’t supposed to be around kids under ten to children’s parks, you know, to socialize their child mauling weapon. Or to Home Depot for same - certainly no kids at parks or at Home Depot with their parents. And they take them on walks, unmuzzled, with retractable leashes, or off leash, even, because they want to dispel the “myths” about their blood sport pets.

These deranged animals - and it’s more than five breeds, Ms. Pit Bull owner - and their equally bad owners should not be in society. Regretfully, every Tom, Dick and Jenny with a pit bull is also irresponsibly breeding their dogs.

Are the pits who are mauling people the type of pits being taken to Home Depot? Are these attacks regularly happening at public playgrounds? Because you lose any credibility with these sort of statements. As problematic as you may think pit and pit owners are, the owners who even know proper socialization is a thing are not the problem and you just continue to sound unhinged when you make these sweeping statements.

No, I don’t sound unhinged in the slightest. So let’s review this short strand:
- pit bull advocate says pit bull rescues already don’t put semi dangerous dogs in homes with children
- I reply and said but then they take these dogs out, unmuzzled, around children
- now you say they should be “socializing” these dangerous dogs around children?

And you say I’ve lost credibility and am “unhinged.” No, I believe in observable reality; you deny it. And you’re making insults toward me.

You can’t socialize out breeding. These dogs were bred for blood sport. That’s what they want to do, that’s what makes them happy. It’s their work.

Me again. Since this never happens, of course, I will never be able to find any evidence:
Brooklyn Park, MN Two off leash pit bulls brought to the park by their totally irresponsible crap bag owner bites a toddler. Because the crap bag owner fled the scene, both the mother and toddler had to have rabies treatment, too. https://ccxmedia.org/news/pit-bull-attacks-child-at-brooklyn-center-playground/

Pit bull bites several children on an Oklahoma school playground, then gets into the school:

Pit bull bites several children in a Missouri school playground:

Brooklyn Park, MN again, only this pit bull got shot and killed after it rushed the officers responding to the 911 call for a child being attacked.

Somehow the pit got loose in Detroit and bit a 12 year old girl’s leg. https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/local/2020/09/25/12-year-old-girl-attacked-by-pitbull-in-lincoln-park-neighborhood/

How many kids need to be offered up to the gaping maw of blood sport dogs? Why should the rest of us and our children be offered up on a platter for these breeds to gnaw on in the name of “socializing” them?

NP here. I‘ve definitely seen people bring their pits (sometimes more than 1) on the local trails, near kids’ parks, to Gravelly Point, etc. It sucks because I have small children and I absolutely am unwilling to risk their safety just so someone can own a dog bred for violence. If they were only mauling their idiot owners, the rest of us wouldn’t care so much. But of course they make the rest of us deal with what they deem an acceptable risk.

Also, you forgot the story about the child mauled walking to their bus stop.

No one is forcing you to do anything. Seems you are making the right choice for yourself and staying home.

Umm no. People being able to safely leave the house trumps dogs. I hope your garbage pit bulls get hit by a car and die.

Thank you, but I don't have pit bulls. Continue making good choices!

Any are you so defensive about some trash dogs that you don’t even own? If they all got hit by cars and died tomorrow the world would be a better place. That is a fact. Think of how many innocent children would be saved from death and mauling of this breed was just gone.

I don't believe they're trash and should die. It might be hard to believe, but not everyone is going to agree with you. Saying people should give up their dogs to make someone else feel comfortable is just unreasonable. You can only control yourself and your own actions, so do that.

Saying that we should all just accept the number of maulings and killings these dogs cause so that a certain subset of people can own the exact breed of dog they want (when there are literally *hundreds* of other breeds out there) is what is unreasonable. It’s not about being comfortable. It’s about not wanting my kids to get the faces mauled off while riding their scooters down the street because someone thought these beasts make good suburban pets.

Your argument that people shouldn’t care because “you can only control yourself” doesn’t hold water. I can’t control of other people drive drunk, or shoot guns in crowded places, etc. but we still have laws restricting these acts because as a civilized society it is generally not accepted that people get to do whatever they want even if it puts others at risk.

Under your logic, we should just allow people to have lions as pets and bring them wherever they want because ya know, you can only control yourself and not others!

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And then those deranged pit bull owners take those dogs that aren’t supposed to be around kids under ten to children’s parks, you know, to socialize their child mauling weapon. Or to Home Depot for same - certainly no kids at parks or at Home Depot with their parents. And they take them on walks, unmuzzled, with retractable leashes, or off leash, even, because they want to dispel the “myths” about their blood sport pets.

These deranged animals - and it’s more than five breeds, Ms. Pit Bull owner - and their equally bad owners should not be in society. Regretfully, every Tom, Dick and Jenny with a pit bull is also irresponsibly breeding their dogs.

Are the pits who are mauling people the type of pits being taken to Home Depot? Are these attacks regularly happening at public playgrounds? Because you lose any credibility with these sort of statements. As problematic as you may think pit and pit owners are, the owners who even know proper socialization is a thing are not the problem and you just continue to sound unhinged when you make these sweeping statements.

No, I don’t sound unhinged in the slightest. So let’s review this short strand:
- pit bull advocate says pit bull rescues already don’t put semi dangerous dogs in homes with children
- I reply and said but then they take these dogs out, unmuzzled, around children
- now you say they should be “socializing” these dangerous dogs around children?

And you say I’ve lost credibility and am “unhinged.” No, I believe in observable reality; you deny it. And you’re making insults toward me.

You can’t socialize out breeding. These dogs were bred for blood sport. That’s what they want to do, that’s what makes them happy. It’s their work.

Me again. Since this never happens, of course, I will never be able to find any evidence:
Brooklyn Park, MN Two off leash pit bulls brought to the park by their totally irresponsible crap bag owner bites a toddler. Because the crap bag owner fled the scene, both the mother and toddler had to have rabies treatment, too. https://ccxmedia.org/news/pit-bull-attacks-child-at-brooklyn-center-playground/

Pit bull bites several children on an Oklahoma school playground, then gets into the school:

Pit bull bites several children in a Missouri school playground:

Brooklyn Park, MN again, only this pit bull got shot and killed after it rushed the officers responding to the 911 call for a child being attacked.

Somehow the pit got loose in Detroit and bit a 12 year old girl’s leg. https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/local/2020/09/25/12-year-old-girl-attacked-by-pitbull-in-lincoln-park-neighborhood/

How many kids need to be offered up to the gaping maw of blood sport dogs? Why should the rest of us and our children be offered up on a platter for these breeds to gnaw on in the name of “socializing” them?

NP here. I‘ve definitely seen people bring their pits (sometimes more than 1) on the local trails, near kids’ parks, to Gravelly Point, etc. It sucks because I have small children and I absolutely am unwilling to risk their safety just so someone can own a dog bred for violence. If they were only mauling their idiot owners, the rest of us wouldn’t care so much. But of course they make the rest of us deal with what they deem an acceptable risk.

Also, you forgot the story about the child mauled walking to their bus stop.

No one is forcing you to do anything. Seems you are making the right choice for yourself and staying home.

Umm no. People being able to safely leave the house trumps dogs. I hope your garbage pit bulls get hit by a car and die.

Thank you, but I don't have pit bulls. Continue making good choices!

Any are you so defensive about some trash dogs that you don’t even own? If they all got hit by cars and died tomorrow the world would be a better place. That is a fact. Think of how many innocent children would be saved from death and mauling of this breed was just gone.

I don't believe they're trash and should die. It might be hard to believe, but not everyone is going to agree with you. Saying people should give up their dogs to make someone else feel comfortable is just unreasonable. You can only control yourself and your own actions, so do that.

Saying that we should all just accept the number of maulings and killings these dogs cause so that a certain subset of people can own the exact breed of dog they want (when there are literally *hundreds* of other breeds out there) is what is unreasonable. It’s not about being comfortable. It’s about not wanting my kids to get the faces mauled off while riding their scooters down the street because someone thought these beasts make good suburban pets.

Your argument that people shouldn’t care because “you can only control yourself” doesn’t hold water. I can’t control of other people drive drunk, or shoot guns in crowded places, etc. but we still have laws restricting these acts because as a civilized society it is generally not accepted that people get to do whatever they want even if it puts others at risk.

Under your logic, we should just allow people to have lions as pets and bring them wherever they want because ya know, you can only control yourself and not others!

That's right, we have existing laws regarding dogs and dog ownership that already cover all of this that can and should be applied and enforced as appropriate - thanks for making my point.

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And then those deranged pit bull owners take those dogs that aren’t supposed to be around kids under ten to children’s parks, you know, to socialize their child mauling weapon. Or to Home Depot for same - certainly no kids at parks or at Home Depot with their parents. And they take them on walks, unmuzzled, with retractable leashes, or off leash, even, because they want to dispel the “myths” about their blood sport pets.

These deranged animals - and it’s more than five breeds, Ms. Pit Bull owner - and their equally bad owners should not be in society. Regretfully, every Tom, Dick and Jenny with a pit bull is also irresponsibly breeding their dogs.

Are the pits who are mauling people the type of pits being taken to Home Depot? Are these attacks regularly happening at public playgrounds? Because you lose any credibility with these sort of statements. As problematic as you may think pit and pit owners are, the owners who even know proper socialization is a thing are not the problem and you just continue to sound unhinged when you make these sweeping statements.

No, I don’t sound unhinged in the slightest. So let’s review this short strand:
- pit bull advocate says pit bull rescues already don’t put semi dangerous dogs in homes with children
- I reply and said but then they take these dogs out, unmuzzled, around children
- now you say they should be “socializing” these dangerous dogs around children?

And you say I’ve lost credibility and am “unhinged.” No, I believe in observable reality; you deny it. And you’re making insults toward me.

You can’t socialize out breeding. These dogs were bred for blood sport. That’s what they want to do, that’s what makes them happy. It’s their work.

Me again. Since this never happens, of course, I will never be able to find any evidence:
Brooklyn Park, MN Two off leash pit bulls brought to the park by their totally irresponsible crap bag owner bites a toddler. Because the crap bag owner fled the scene, both the mother and toddler had to have rabies treatment, too. https://ccxmedia.org/news/pit-bull-attacks-child-at-brooklyn-center-playground/

Pit bull bites several children on an Oklahoma school playground, then gets into the school:

Pit bull bites several children in a Missouri school playground:

Brooklyn Park, MN again, only this pit bull got shot and killed after it rushed the officers responding to the 911 call for a child being attacked.

Somehow the pit got loose in Detroit and bit a 12 year old girl’s leg. https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/local/2020/09/25/12-year-old-girl-attacked-by-pitbull-in-lincoln-park-neighborhood/

How many kids need to be offered up to the gaping maw of blood sport dogs? Why should the rest of us and our children be offered up on a platter for these breeds to gnaw on in the name of “socializing” them?

NP here. I‘ve definitely seen people bring their pits (sometimes more than 1) on the local trails, near kids’ parks, to Gravelly Point, etc. It sucks because I have small children and I absolutely am unwilling to risk their safety just so someone can own a dog bred for violence. If they were only mauling their idiot owners, the rest of us wouldn’t care so much. But of course they make the rest of us deal with what they deem an acceptable risk.

Also, you forgot the story about the child mauled walking to their bus stop.

No one is forcing you to do anything. Seems you are making the right choice for yourself and staying home.

Umm no. People being able to safely leave the house trumps dogs. I hope your garbage pit bulls get hit by a car and die.

Thank you, but I don't have pit bulls. Continue making good choices!

Any are you so defensive about some trash dogs that you don’t even own? If they all got hit by cars and died tomorrow the world would be a better place. That is a fact. Think of how many innocent children would be saved from death and mauling of this breed was just gone.

I don't believe they're trash and should die. It might be hard to believe, but not everyone is going to agree with you. Saying people should give up their dogs to make someone else feel comfortable is just unreasonable. You can only control yourself and your own actions, so do that.

Saying that we should all just accept the number of maulings and killings these dogs cause so that a certain subset of people can own the exact breed of dog they want (when there are literally *hundreds* of other breeds out there) is what is unreasonable. It’s not about being comfortable. It’s about not wanting my kids to get the faces mauled off while riding their scooters down the street because someone thought these beasts make good suburban pets.

Your argument that people shouldn’t care because “you can only control yourself” doesn’t hold water. I can’t control of other people drive drunk, or shoot guns in crowded places, etc. but we still have laws restricting these acts because as a civilized society it is generally not accepted that people get to do whatever they want even if it puts others at risk.

Under your logic, we should just allow people to have lions as pets and bring them wherever they want because ya know, you can only control yourself and not others!

Are there laws about having pit bulls?
I never said anyone shouldn't care. Your paranoia is making you project. What your kids do or don't is under your control. If you aren't comfortable with reality, keep them home. You can be as unhappy about it as you want but it's not going to change anything.

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And then those deranged pit bull owners take those dogs that aren’t supposed to be around kids under ten to children’s parks, you know, to socialize their child mauling weapon. Or to Home Depot for same - certainly no kids at parks or at Home Depot with their parents. And they take them on walks, unmuzzled, with retractable leashes, or off leash, even, because they want to dispel the “myths” about their blood sport pets.

These deranged animals - and it’s more than five breeds, Ms. Pit Bull owner - and their equally bad owners should not be in society. Regretfully, every Tom, Dick and Jenny with a pit bull is also irresponsibly breeding their dogs.

Are the pits who are mauling people the type of pits being taken to Home Depot? Are these attacks regularly happening at public playgrounds? Because you lose any credibility with these sort of statements. As problematic as you may think pit and pit owners are, the owners who even know proper socialization is a thing are not the problem and you just continue to sound unhinged when you make these sweeping statements.

No, I don’t sound unhinged in the slightest. So let’s review this short strand:
- pit bull advocate says pit bull rescues already don’t put semi dangerous dogs in homes with children
- I reply and said but then they take these dogs out, unmuzzled, around children
- now you say they should be “socializing” these dangerous dogs around children?

And you say I’ve lost credibility and am “unhinged.” No, I believe in observable reality; you deny it. And you’re making insults toward me.

You can’t socialize out breeding. These dogs were bred for blood sport. That’s what they want to do, that’s what makes them happy. It’s their work.

Me again. Since this never happens, of course, I will never be able to find any evidence:
Brooklyn Park, MN Two off leash pit bulls brought to the park by their totally irresponsible crap bag owner bites a toddler. Because the crap bag owner fled the scene, both the mother and toddler had to have rabies treatment, too. https://ccxmedia.org/news/pit-bull-attacks-child-at-brooklyn-center-playground/

Pit bull bites several children on an Oklahoma school playground, then gets into the school:

Pit bull bites several children in a Missouri school playground:

Brooklyn Park, MN again, only this pit bull got shot and killed after it rushed the officers responding to the 911 call for a child being attacked.

Somehow the pit got loose in Detroit and bit a 12 year old girl’s leg. https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/local/2020/09/25/12-year-old-girl-attacked-by-pitbull-in-lincoln-park-neighborhood/

How many kids need to be offered up to the gaping maw of blood sport dogs? Why should the rest of us and our children be offered up on a platter for these breeds to gnaw on in the name of “socializing” them?

NP here. I‘ve definitely seen people bring their pits (sometimes more than 1) on the local trails, near kids’ parks, to Gravelly Point, etc. It sucks because I have small children and I absolutely am unwilling to risk their safety just so someone can own a dog bred for violence. If they were only mauling their idiot owners, the rest of us wouldn’t care so much. But of course they make the rest of us deal with what they deem an acceptable risk.

Also, you forgot the story about the child mauled walking to their bus stop.

No one is forcing you to do anything. Seems you are making the right choice for yourself and staying home.

Umm no. People being able to safely leave the house trumps dogs. I hope your garbage pit bulls get hit by a car and die.

Thank you, but I don't have pit bulls. Continue making good choices!

Any are you so defensive about some trash dogs that you don’t even own? If they all got hit by cars and died tomorrow the world would be a better place. That is a fact. Think of how many innocent children would be saved from death and mauling of this breed was just gone.

I don't believe they're trash and should die. It might be hard to believe, but not everyone is going to agree with you. Saying people should give up their dogs to make someone else feel comfortable is just unreasonable. You can only control yourself and your own actions, so do that.

Saying that we should all just accept the number of maulings and killings these dogs cause so that a certain subset of people can own the exact breed of dog they want (when there are literally *hundreds* of other breeds out there) is what is unreasonable. It’s not about being comfortable. It’s about not wanting my kids to get the faces mauled off while riding their scooters down the street because someone thought these beasts make good suburban pets.

Your argument that people shouldn’t care because “you can only control yourself” doesn’t hold water. I can’t control of other people drive drunk, or shoot guns in crowded places, etc. but we still have laws restricting these acts because as a civilized society it is generally not accepted that people get to do whatever they want even if it puts others at risk.

Under your logic, we should just allow people to have lions as pets and bring them wherever they want because ya know, you can only control yourself and not others!

Are there laws about having pit bulls?
I never said anyone shouldn't care. Your paranoia is making you project. What your kids do or don't is under your control. If you aren't comfortable with reality, keep them home. You can be as unhappy about it as you want but it's not going to change anything.

Me again. I did not post the response at 22:11.

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And then those deranged pit bull owners take those dogs that aren’t supposed to be around kids under ten to children’s parks, you know, to socialize their child mauling weapon. Or to Home Depot for same - certainly no kids at parks or at Home Depot with their parents. And they take them on walks, unmuzzled, with retractable leashes, or off leash, even, because they want to dispel the “myths” about their blood sport pets.

These deranged animals - and it’s more than five breeds, Ms. Pit Bull owner - and their equally bad owners should not be in society. Regretfully, every Tom, Dick and Jenny with a pit bull is also irresponsibly breeding their dogs.

Are the pits who are mauling people the type of pits being taken to Home Depot? Are these attacks regularly happening at public playgrounds? Because you lose any credibility with these sort of statements. As problematic as you may think pit and pit owners are, the owners who even know proper socialization is a thing are not the problem and you just continue to sound unhinged when you make these sweeping statements.

No, I don’t sound unhinged in the slightest. So let’s review this short strand:
- pit bull advocate says pit bull rescues already don’t put semi dangerous dogs in homes with children
- I reply and said but then they take these dogs out, unmuzzled, around children
- now you say they should be “socializing” these dangerous dogs around children?

And you say I’ve lost credibility and am “unhinged.” No, I believe in observable reality; you deny it. And you’re making insults toward me.

You can’t socialize out breeding. These dogs were bred for blood sport. That’s what they want to do, that’s what makes them happy. It’s their work.

Me again. Since this never happens, of course, I will never be able to find any evidence:
Brooklyn Park, MN Two off leash pit bulls brought to the park by their totally irresponsible crap bag owner bites a toddler. Because the crap bag owner fled the scene, both the mother and toddler had to have rabies treatment, too. https://ccxmedia.org/news/pit-bull-attacks-child-at-brooklyn-center-playground/

Pit bull bites several children on an Oklahoma school playground, then gets into the school:

Pit bull bites several children in a Missouri school playground:

Brooklyn Park, MN again, only this pit bull got shot and killed after it rushed the officers responding to the 911 call for a child being attacked.

Somehow the pit got loose in Detroit and bit a 12 year old girl’s leg. https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/local/2020/09/25/12-year-old-girl-attacked-by-pitbull-in-lincoln-park-neighborhood/

How many kids need to be offered up to the gaping maw of blood sport dogs? Why should the rest of us and our children be offered up on a platter for these breeds to gnaw on in the name of “socializing” them?

NP here. I‘ve definitely seen people bring their pits (sometimes more than 1) on the local trails, near kids’ parks, to Gravelly Point, etc. It sucks because I have small children and I absolutely am unwilling to risk their safety just so someone can own a dog bred for violence. If they were only mauling their idiot owners, the rest of us wouldn’t care so much. But of course they make the rest of us deal with what they deem an acceptable risk.

Also, you forgot the story about the child mauled walking to their bus stop.

No one is forcing you to do anything. Seems you are making the right choice for yourself and staying home.

Umm no. People being able to safely leave the house trumps dogs. I hope your garbage pit bulls get hit by a car and die.

Thank you, but I don't have pit bulls. Continue making good choices!

Any are you so defensive about some trash dogs that you don’t even own? If they all got hit by cars and died tomorrow the world would be a better place. That is a fact. Think of how many innocent children would be saved from death and mauling of this breed was just gone.

I don't believe they're trash and should die. It might be hard to believe, but not everyone is going to agree with you. Saying people should give up their dogs to make someone else feel comfortable is just unreasonable. You can only control yourself and your own actions, so do that.

Saying that we should all just accept the number of maulings and killings these dogs cause so that a certain subset of people can own the exact breed of dog they want (when there are literally *hundreds* of other breeds out there) is what is unreasonable. It’s not about being comfortable. It’s about not wanting my kids to get the faces mauled off while riding their scooters down the street because someone thought these beasts make good suburban pets.

Your argument that people shouldn’t care because “you can only control yourself” doesn’t hold water. I can’t control of other people drive drunk, or shoot guns in crowded places, etc. but we still have laws restricting these acts because as a civilized society it is generally not accepted that people get to do whatever they want even if it puts others at risk.

Under your logic, we should just allow people to have lions as pets and bring them wherever they want because ya know, you can only control yourself and not others!

That's right, we have existing laws regarding dogs and dog ownership that already cover all of this that can and should be applied and enforced as appropriate - thanks for making my point.

Existing dog ownership laws do nothing to prevent attacks from a breed that shows zero signs of warning before killing. You can follow the law and still have your dog kill your kids in an instant. https://www.wate.com/news/nexstar-media-wire/mother-tried-to-shield-children-killed-in-memphis-pit-bull-attack-family-says/

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And then those deranged pit bull owners take those dogs that aren’t supposed to be around kids under ten to children’s parks, you know, to socialize their child mauling weapon. Or to Home Depot for same - certainly no kids at parks or at Home Depot with their parents. And they take them on walks, unmuzzled, with retractable leashes, or off leash, even, because they want to dispel the “myths” about their blood sport pets.

These deranged animals - and it’s more than five breeds, Ms. Pit Bull owner - and their equally bad owners should not be in society. Regretfully, every Tom, Dick and Jenny with a pit bull is also irresponsibly breeding their dogs.

Are the pits who are mauling people the type of pits being taken to Home Depot? Are these attacks regularly happening at public playgrounds? Because you lose any credibility with these sort of statements. As problematic as you may think pit and pit owners are, the owners who even know proper socialization is a thing are not the problem and you just continue to sound unhinged when you make these sweeping statements.

No, I don’t sound unhinged in the slightest. So let’s review this short strand:
- pit bull advocate says pit bull rescues already don’t put semi dangerous dogs in homes with children
- I reply and said but then they take these dogs out, unmuzzled, around children
- now you say they should be “socializing” these dangerous dogs around children?

And you say I’ve lost credibility and am “unhinged.” No, I believe in observable reality; you deny it. And you’re making insults toward me.

You can’t socialize out breeding. These dogs were bred for blood sport. That’s what they want to do, that’s what makes them happy. It’s their work.

Me again. Since this never happens, of course, I will never be able to find any evidence:
Brooklyn Park, MN Two off leash pit bulls brought to the park by their totally irresponsible crap bag owner bites a toddler. Because the crap bag owner fled the scene, both the mother and toddler had to have rabies treatment, too. https://ccxmedia.org/news/pit-bull-attacks-child-at-brooklyn-center-playground/

Pit bull bites several children on an Oklahoma school playground, then gets into the school:

Pit bull bites several children in a Missouri school playground:

Brooklyn Park, MN again, only this pit bull got shot and killed after it rushed the officers responding to the 911 call for a child being attacked.

Somehow the pit got loose in Detroit and bit a 12 year old girl’s leg. https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/local/2020/09/25/12-year-old-girl-attacked-by-pitbull-in-lincoln-park-neighborhood/

How many kids need to be offered up to the gaping maw of blood sport dogs? Why should the rest of us and our children be offered up on a platter for these breeds to gnaw on in the name of “socializing” them?

NP here. I‘ve definitely seen people bring their pits (sometimes more than 1) on the local trails, near kids’ parks, to Gravelly Point, etc. It sucks because I have small children and I absolutely am unwilling to risk their safety just so someone can own a dog bred for violence. If they were only mauling their idiot owners, the rest of us wouldn’t care so much. But of course they make the rest of us deal with what they deem an acceptable risk.

Also, you forgot the story about the child mauled walking to their bus stop.

No one is forcing you to do anything. Seems you are making the right choice for yourself and staying home.

Umm no. People being able to safely leave the house trumps dogs. I hope your garbage pit bulls get hit by a car and die.

Thank you, but I don't have pit bulls. Continue making good choices!

Any are you so defensive about some trash dogs that you don’t even own? If they all got hit by cars and died tomorrow the world would be a better place. That is a fact. Think of how many innocent children would be saved from death and mauling of this breed was just gone.

I don't believe they're trash and should die. It might be hard to believe, but not everyone is going to agree with you. Saying people should give up their dogs to make someone else feel comfortable is just unreasonable. You can only control yourself and your own actions, so do that.

Saying that we should all just accept the number of maulings and killings these dogs cause so that a certain subset of people can own the exact breed of dog they want (when there are literally *hundreds* of other breeds out there) is what is unreasonable. It’s not about being comfortable. It’s about not wanting my kids to get the faces mauled off while riding their scooters down the street because someone thought these beasts make good suburban pets.

Your argument that people shouldn’t care because “you can only control yourself” doesn’t hold water. I can’t control of other people drive drunk, or shoot guns in crowded places, etc. but we still have laws restricting these acts because as a civilized society it is generally not accepted that people get to do whatever they want even if it puts others at risk.

Under your logic, we should just allow people to have lions as pets and bring them wherever they want because ya know, you can only control yourself and not others!

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I’m not sure why people get so upset by you saying that laws should protect people from dangerous animals. It wasn’t that long ago that dangerous dogs were put down, but now “rescues” traffic dangerous dogs with actual bite histories around, lie about and shame people for returning them after they’ve bitten and owners spend thousands on trying to train the violence out of these dogs. I have linked several of the maulings in this thread and not all those dogs have been put down. It’s insanity.

Then there is the near total lack of consequences for the owners. If it’s “bad owners” why the hell aren’t pit bull apologists lobbying for massive fines. I mean, if it’s sooooo unlikely and you’re all such conscientious owners, surely you’d approve of fines around $100,000 or more plus the owner covering the medical bills.

These aren’t pet material dogs.

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There is a huge lobby that is pro pit bull. I can't even imagine someone using time out of their life on such a pitiful cause. Just get one of the other hundreds of dog breeds. Why take a chance on a damn pet? You have to be unhinged to care this much about a breed of dog lol. Just pitiful.

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Anonymous wrote:Why the heck government can't ban having pets like these? Do they have supporters like gun lobby?

There is a huge lobby that is pro pit bull. I can't even imagine someone using time out of their life on such a pitiful cause. Just get one of the other hundreds of dog breeds. Why take a chance on a damn pet? You have to be unhinged to care this much about a breed of dog lol. Just pitiful.

The people who support pit bulls are those who have experience with them. We are here to counteract your unhinged hate for many dogs who are innocent and have done nothing. Many rescues do have some pit in them so unless you go to a breeder is nearly impossible to get a dog without some pit. And we as humans already kill so many.

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Anonymous wrote:Why the heck government can't ban having pets like these? Do they have supporters like gun lobby?

There is a huge lobby that is pro pit bull. I can't even imagine someone using time out of their life on such a pitiful cause. Just get one of the other hundreds of dog breeds. Why take a chance on a damn pet? You have to be unhinged to care this much about a breed of dog lol. Just pitiful.

The people who support pit bulls are those who have experience with them. We are here to counteract your unhinged hate for many dogs who are innocent and have done nothing. Many rescues do have some pit in them so unless you go to a breeder is nearly impossible to get a dog without some pit. And we as humans already kill so many.

What?! Not me. Pitbulls specifically turned me from a volunteer with 10 years in rescue to a person who no longer believes in no kill shelters and won't ever volunteer for or donate to shelters again unless they clean up their pit problem. The kind of crap these shelters engage in to offload these dogs should get them sued and the pit lobby trying to convince people they're great family pets has blood on their hands. My experience with them says that while they can be sweet they're also enough of a danger to spay and neuter them out of existence.

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Anonymous wrote:Why the heck government can't ban having pets like these? Do they have supporters like gun lobby?

There is a huge lobby that is pro pit bull. I can't even imagine someone using time out of their life on such a pitiful cause. Just get one of the other hundreds of dog breeds. Why take a chance on a damn pet? You have to be unhinged to care this much about a breed of dog lol. Just pitiful.

The people who support pit bulls are those who have experience with them. We are here to counteract your unhinged hate for many dogs who are innocent and have done nothing. Many rescues do have some pit in them so unless you go to a breeder is nearly impossible to get a dog without some pit. And we as humans already kill so many.

What?! Not me. Pitbulls specifically turned me from a volunteer with 10 years in rescue to a person who no longer believes in no kill shelters and won't ever volunteer for or donate to shelters again unless they clean up their pit problem. The kind of crap these shelters engage in to offload these dogs should get them sued and the pit lobby trying to convince people they're great family pets has blood on their hands. My experience with them says that while they can be sweet they're also enough of a danger to spay and neuter them out of existence.

I wasn't specifically talking about you, pp. I have a mixed pit and I know not to judge a book by its cover. Pit bull breeds are not for everyone and I'm pretty confident that the majority of rescues tell the potential adopters if the dogs are good with kids, other dogs, cats etc. But, again you can't eradicate five different breeds not including the mixes with as little as 1 percent pit?