Conservative confusion over schools

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I'm not going to pretend that we havent been teaching slavery, the Underground Railroad, segregation and Jim Crow in schools. I learned about this in school. So did you. That is how we all know about it.

So the question is, do you think our kids should continue learning about slavery? I feel like most people would say yes. Slavery is part of our history. It happened.
But...if you purposely mislabel the teaching of slavery as "critical race theory" then you can muddy the waters without seeming overtly racist. It's a dog whistle.

https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/2022/06/29/florida-teachers-raise-concerns-about-new-civics-training-say-it-downplays-slavery-promotes-originalism/

Yes. Literally no one is advocating for the removal of history lessons about slavery. In fact, I think the lessons need to go further with actual names of significant slaves in history, such as notable military figures, Sally Hemmings and Thomas Jefferson's kids, etc.

CRT has nothing to do with teaching history accurately.

You don't know what CRT is or isn't, other than it's a convenient bogeyman word to trigger the right wing.

And you think that no one learned about slavery in schools until BLM showed up. We all just fell off the apple cart, not sure who Harriett Tubman is, learning about slavery through vague rumors.

THIS ^^. What a bunch of poseurs.

You semiliterate goon. Scroll back a few pages to the examples from actual recent textbooks talking about how they were just "African workers" and that slavery was not so bad. There's pleny more where that came from, if you'd bother to actually do some reading.

No. People are well aware that slavery is part of our history. You are rewriting history by claiming that knowledge of slavery has been suppressed.

I mean, bruh. We all read Huckleberry Finn.

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Anonymous wrote:Teachers should not talk to 3rd graders about sex. This shouldnt be controversial. It was common sense 5 years ago. This is why DeSantis has appeal, because you are correct, the left is terrifying when it comes to the bizarre insistence that children should learn about things like dildos and oral sex at school.

That’s just it. You erected a straw man. Third grade teachers *don’t* talk to third graders about sex. The fact that you think they do makes you either gullible or a lying liar who lies.

Then its all a non-issue and no one should be upset about the new restrictions.

Well, no, they should be teaching children about different kinds of families, etc. which has nothing to do with teaching about “sex.”

I am also against banning books. If that’s your thing, leave my country.

I dont care if my kids learn about different types of families at school. This is something they pick up just by being alive, going to peoples houses, and hanging out in their neighborhood. It doesnt require special instruction.

I am also against banning books. But I dont think that means we should buy any and all books for public school libraries. No normal person thinks we should stock public school libraries with terrorist propaganda, porn, etc. It's normal to believe age-appropriate, educational material.

I don’t care what you want. The rest of us want it. This is important. Because schools exist to educate children for what society needs, and that often means exposing them to ideas that are contrary to what their parents value. This is particularly important when the parents are bigoted, as you appear to be.

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You want porn and terrorist propaganda? Do you even believe what you are saying? Or, are you just babbling back and someone you disagree with?

When people show you who they are, believe them.

They also want CRT in schools, if you read their responses.

They want sexual material and CRT in schools. This isnt a misunderstanding.

There is no CRT in schools. If you believe learning about slavery, heroes of the underground railroad and the horrors of reconstruction or system racism in banking and segregation are CRT then I don't know what to tell you.

No one is claiming any of the above is CRT. You seem confused between what is actual history and what is an underlying narrative that the US (and white people, specifically) are - and always will be - irredeemably racist. All school kids already learn about the bolded.

What I cited that you bolded, most on the right consider to be "CRT" - so until the idiots who rally against it understand the difference, I will stand by my statement. Also, CRT does not exist in any elementary or high schools.

Wrong. The only idiots here are those who write what you just did. No one on the right objects to teaching factual history - after all, it's been taught for decades with no issues. It's only since BLM came on the scene that history lessons started reflecting elements of CRT. Teachers are now trained in CRT concepts. While there are no "direct" CRT teachings in schools, there are certainly many lessons that reflect CRT thought. You can deny it as much as you want, but there is plenty of proof online. FCPS is just one school system that has spent *thousands* of dollars in teacher training with The Leadership Academy. Of course, they call that "Culturally Responsive Training," another unfortunate CRT acronym. I don't think I've ever read quite as much utter bull$hit as what's contained in the links below (all contracted programs with FCPS).

https://go.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/files/BXX5YN128A2F/$file/FCPS%20Stakeholder%20Engagement%20Proposal%20FINAL%20SENT.pdf
https://www.leadershipacademy.org/blog/the-racially-responsive-facilitator/
https://www.leadershipacademy.org/blog/expect-pushback-when-leading-for-equity/
https://www.leadershipacademy.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Rebrand-Version-Equity-Leadership-Dispositions.pdf
https://go.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/files/BTFRCZ6CA62E/$file/Final%20Anti-Racism%20Anti-Bias%20Curriculum%20Work%20Session%20Sept%2014%202020.pdf

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Anonymous wrote:Ever since Glenn Youngkin squeaked to victory on a bad-faith platform that exploited suburban fears about public schools, Republicans everywhere have been adopting the playbook. Yell about “parental rights” and attack the phantom CRT menace. Lambast “equity” programs, especially if commitments to those can be juxtaposed against changes to academic programs that are tailored to higher-achieving students like honors classes.

Obviously we all know beyond being a cynical attempt to win elections, the real agenda behind this attack on education is to dumb down the future electorate since poorly educated people tend to vote more conservative. It’s also about trying to redirect taxpayer dollars to fund public schools to for-profit companies that run charter schools and also to religious-based private schools.

In Florida, Ron DeSantis has taken it a bit further and, in the name of protesting “liberal indoctrination” at post-secondary education (something that doesn’t actually exist, like CRT being taught in grade schools, but the dumbed down and frightened electorate doesn’t grasp this) but deliberately doing things like trying to turn a public school into a bastion of right-wing, reactionary education (see what’s happening at the New College).

But this has all gone completely meta now. Even as Republicans complain that the focus on equity in K-12 is resulting in things like honors programs being emphasized, DeSantis (whose policies and rhetoric are copied as much as Youngkin’s) is planning to do with AP courses IN THEIR ENTIRETY in Florida high schools. Because they’re too woke or something.

https://www.tampabay.com/news/education/2023/02/18/4-things-know-about-ron-desantis-idea-slash-ap-courses-florida/

Make it make sense.

Not only that, Youngkin sent out a bat signal and got far right activists from all around the country to converge on NoVA school board meetings pretending to be local parents shrieking about everything and anything including imaginary CRT, resulting in school board members and school officials receiving horrific threats to rape and murder them and their children, burn their houses down and so on.

Calling it bad-faith is too gentle.

You are willfully ignoring what happened. Read the Grand Jury report.

The rape and how it was handled was bad, yes. But the far right also willfully ignored a lot of other aspects of the case that were out of the district's hands and made a lot of wrongful accusations, along with their far-right CRT lies and everything else. And despite the rape, NOTHING warranted those far right loons storming meetings lying and falsely pretending they were district parents, and making horrific threats to rape, torture, burn alive, murder school board members, school officials and their families. That was utterly disgusting, terroristic behavior by the far right and you may not willfully ignore that either.

This is what I remember about the parents who "stormed" the meeting.

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Can you imagine being the parent of a girl who was raped - and then being treated like this? Just disgusting. The PP is repulsive.

Stop it.

The rape is one issue. It was horrible and was badly mishandled.

BUT. The violent threats are a separate issue, absolutely NOT justified by the first. And the violent threats weren't just about the rape, since school boards in many other places around the country were also accosted by right wing extremists. The violent threats have been over CRT and every other delusional fever dream of the far right.

Okay. Go ask the FBI to investigate all those terrorist parents.

Oh wait.

The FBI was in fact called in. https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-addresses-violent-threats-against-school-officials-and-teachers

So no indictments. As we were saying, girls actually got raped at Loudon schools due to callous behavior by school officials. Violence against school officials never occurred.

I have no idea if there were indictments or not but the threats of violence definitely happened. I had a number of bookmarked posts when I was still on Twitter, that included recordings of phone messages, screenshots of text messages and emails, photos of notes received by mail and even placed at their houses. There were a LOT of threats, and many were grotesque and disgusting.

FBI and local police investigated (I also recall seeing posts from Loudoun County Sheriffs Department about it), but as often is the case, the perpetrators likely just off with a warning, despite it being a felony in most jurisdictions to threaten to harm people or destroy their property under terrorstic threat statutes.

It's truly bizarre that you are SO invested in lying, denying the threats occurred, repeatedly attempting to gaslight posters by calling them "insane," dismissing articles as "not credible" and so on.
Nobody here ever denied the rape happened. Why are you so invested in your lies and denials?

I'm invested in the notion that Youngkin won bc parents correctly perceived that the school board was out of line. I'm sure there were some crazies at the meetings and some threats of violence. However, I dont believe your narrative that parents who want things like safe schools and normal history lessons are violent right wing extremists. And the fact that there were no indictments really casts doubt on your version of events, in which school officials suffered violence. Kids suffered violence in those schools. And no trans children were involved whatsoever, so the political narrative is a total red herring by the left to villanize the parents.

Turns out there were in fact arrests and indictments of people who made threats over the Loudoun County Stone Bridge High School rape. https://www.insidenova.com/headlines/alexandria-man-31-charged-with-making-threats-to-loudoun-high-school/article_83bd263e-5337-11ec-a1b4-5b0a55b44cc4.html

That, combined with the fact that the far right did in fact make it about trans bathrooms, casts doubt on YOUR version of events.

DP. So, you realize that ONE arrest =/= "arrests and indictments of people," right? One person was arrested. Are any of your posts truthful?

Same pp claimed that the people at the Loudon school board meetings were also at the Capitol on Jan 6. Probably has a wall with red string and pics of randos.

DP... Frankly it wouldn't be one bit surprised if some of the far right jackasses here on DCUM were at both and I don't even need a board with pictures and red yarn to see how nuts some of you people are.

"Everyone who disagrees with me is a terrorist or Jan 6 rioter"
-pp

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I'm not going to pretend that we havent been teaching slavery, the Underground Railroad, segregation and Jim Crow in schools. I learned about this in school. So did you. That is how we all know about it.

So the question is, do you think our kids should continue learning about slavery? I feel like most people would say yes. Slavery is part of our history. It happened.
But...if you purposely mislabel the teaching of slavery as "critical race theory" then you can muddy the waters without seeming overtly racist. It's a dog whistle.

https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/2022/06/29/florida-teachers-raise-concerns-about-new-civics-training-say-it-downplays-slavery-promotes-originalism/

Yes. Literally no one is advocating for the removal of history lessons about slavery. In fact, I think the lessons need to go further with actual names of significant slaves in history, such as notable military figures, Sally Hemmings and Thomas Jefferson's kids, etc.

CRT has nothing to do with teaching history accurately.

You don't know what CRT is or isn't, other than it's a convenient bogeyman word to trigger the right wing.

And you think that no one learned about slavery in schools until BLM showed up. We all just fell off the apple cart, not sure who Harriett Tubman is, learning about slavery through vague rumors.

THIS ^^. What a bunch of poseurs.

You semiliterate goon. Scroll back a few pages to the examples from actual recent textbooks talking about how they were just "African workers" and that slavery was not so bad. There's pleny more where that came from, if you'd bother to actually do some reading.

No. People are well aware that slavery is part of our history. You are rewriting history by claiming that knowledge of slavery has been suppressed.

I mean, bruh. We all read Huckleberry Finn.

Oh come on. I didn't see anyone on this thread claiming knowledge of slavery was suppressed. But it has definitely been downplayed and misrepresented in curricula and textbooks including some current ones (Texas for example has some real doozies), and a lot of what followed up into the present has not been well taught. That's definitely a fact.

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Anonymous wrote:Teachers should not talk to 3rd graders about sex. This shouldnt be controversial. It was common sense 5 years ago. This is why DeSantis has appeal, because you are correct, the left is terrifying when it comes to the bizarre insistence that children should learn about things like dildos and oral sex at school.

That’s just it. You erected a straw man. Third grade teachers *don’t* talk to third graders about sex. The fact that you think they do makes you either gullible or a lying liar who lies.

Then its all a non-issue and no one should be upset about the new restrictions.

Well, no, they should be teaching children about different kinds of families, etc. which has nothing to do with teaching about “sex.”

I am also against banning books. If that’s your thing, leave my country.

I dont care if my kids learn about different types of families at school. This is something they pick up just by being alive, going to peoples houses, and hanging out in their neighborhood. It doesnt require special instruction.

I am also against banning books. But I dont think that means we should buy any and all books for public school libraries. No normal person thinks we should stock public school libraries with terrorist propaganda, porn, etc. It's normal to believe age-appropriate, educational material.

I don’t care what you want. The rest of us want it. This is important. Because schools exist to educate children for what society needs, and that often means exposing them to ideas that are contrary to what their parents value. This is particularly important when the parents are bigoted, as you appear to be.

DP
You want porn and terrorist propaganda? Do you even believe what you are saying? Or, are you just babbling back and someone you disagree with?

When people show you who they are, believe them.

They also want CRT in schools, if you read their responses.

They want sexual material and CRT in schools. This isnt a misunderstanding.

There is no CRT in schools. If you believe learning about slavery, heroes of the underground railroad and the horrors of reconstruction or system racism in banking and segregation are CRT then I don't know what to tell you.

No one is claiming any of the above is CRT. You seem confused between what is actual history and what is an underlying narrative that the US (and white people, specifically) are - and always will be - irredeemably racist. All school kids already learn about the bolded.

What I cited that you bolded, most on the right consider to be "CRT" - so until the idiots who rally against it understand the difference, I will stand by my statement. Also, CRT does not exist in any elementary or high schools.

Wrong. The only idiots here are those who write what you just did. No one on the right objects to teaching factual history - after all, it's been taught for decades with no issues. It's only since BLM came on the scene that history lessons started reflecting elements of CRT. Teachers are now trained in CRT concepts. While there are no "direct" CRT teachings in schools, there are certainly many lessons that reflect CRT thought. You can deny it as much as you want, but there is plenty of proof online. FCPS is just one school system that has spent *thousands* of dollars in teacher training with The Leadership Academy. Of course, they call that "Culturally Responsive Training," another unfortunate CRT acronym. I don't think I've ever read quite as much utter bull$hit as what's contained in the links below (all contracted programs with FCPS).

https://go.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/files/BXX5YN128A2F/$file/FCPS%20Stakeholder%20Engagement%20Proposal%20FINAL%20SENT.pdf
https://www.leadershipacademy.org/blog/the-racially-responsive-facilitator/
https://www.leadershipacademy.org/blog/expect-pushback-when-leading-for-equity/
https://www.leadershipacademy.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Rebrand-Version-Equity-Leadership-Dispositions.pdf
https://go.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/files/BTFRCZ6CA62E/$file/Final%20Anti-Racism%20Anti-Bias%20Curriculum%20Work%20Session%20Sept%2014%202020.pdf

You mean about the Africans who were happy and jovial workers in the fields? Please.

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Anonymous wrote:Ever since Glenn Youngkin squeaked to victory on a bad-faith platform that exploited suburban fears about public schools, Republicans everywhere have been adopting the playbook. Yell about “parental rights” and attack the phantom CRT menace. Lambast “equity” programs, especially if commitments to those can be juxtaposed against changes to academic programs that are tailored to higher-achieving students like honors classes.

Obviously we all know beyond being a cynical attempt to win elections, the real agenda behind this attack on education is to dumb down the future electorate since poorly educated people tend to vote more conservative. It’s also about trying to redirect taxpayer dollars to fund public schools to for-profit companies that run charter schools and also to religious-based private schools.

In Florida, Ron DeSantis has taken it a bit further and, in the name of protesting “liberal indoctrination” at post-secondary education (something that doesn’t actually exist, like CRT being taught in grade schools, but the dumbed down and frightened electorate doesn’t grasp this) but deliberately doing things like trying to turn a public school into a bastion of right-wing, reactionary education (see what’s happening at the New College).

But this has all gone completely meta now. Even as Republicans complain that the focus on equity in K-12 is resulting in things like honors programs being emphasized, DeSantis (whose policies and rhetoric are copied as much as Youngkin’s) is planning to do with AP courses IN THEIR ENTIRETY in Florida high schools. Because they’re too woke or something.

https://www.tampabay.com/news/education/2023/02/18/4-things-know-about-ron-desantis-idea-slash-ap-courses-florida/

Make it make sense.

Not only that, Youngkin sent out a bat signal and got far right activists from all around the country to converge on NoVA school board meetings pretending to be local parents shrieking about everything and anything including imaginary CRT, resulting in school board members and school officials receiving horrific threats to rape and murder them and their children, burn their houses down and so on.

Calling it bad-faith is too gentle.

You are willfully ignoring what happened. Read the Grand Jury report.

The rape and how it was handled was bad, yes. But the far right also willfully ignored a lot of other aspects of the case that were out of the district's hands and made a lot of wrongful accusations, along with their far-right CRT lies and everything else. And despite the rape, NOTHING warranted those far right loons storming meetings lying and falsely pretending they were district parents, and making horrific threats to rape, torture, burn alive, murder school board members, school officials and their families. That was utterly disgusting, terroristic behavior by the far right and you may not willfully ignore that either.

This is what I remember about the parents who "stormed" the meeting.

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Can you imagine being the parent of a girl who was raped - and then being treated like this? Just disgusting. The PP is repulsive.

Stop it.

The rape is one issue. It was horrible and was badly mishandled.

BUT. The violent threats are a separate issue, absolutely NOT justified by the first. And the violent threats weren't just about the rape, since school boards in many other places around the country were also accosted by right wing extremists. The violent threats have been over CRT and every other delusional fever dream of the far right.

Okay. Go ask the FBI to investigate all those terrorist parents.

Oh wait.

The FBI was in fact called in. https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-addresses-violent-threats-against-school-officials-and-teachers

So no indictments. As we were saying, girls actually got raped at Loudon schools due to callous behavior by school officials. Violence against school officials never occurred.

I have no idea if there were indictments or not but the threats of violence definitely happened. I had a number of bookmarked posts when I was still on Twitter, that included recordings of phone messages, screenshots of text messages and emails, photos of notes received by mail and even placed at their houses. There were a LOT of threats, and many were grotesque and disgusting.

FBI and local police investigated (I also recall seeing posts from Loudoun County Sheriffs Department about it), but as often is the case, the perpetrators likely just off with a warning, despite it being a felony in most jurisdictions to threaten to harm people or destroy their property under terrorstic threat statutes.

It's truly bizarre that you are SO invested in lying, denying the threats occurred, repeatedly attempting to gaslight posters by calling them "insane," dismissing articles as "not credible" and so on.
Nobody here ever denied the rape happened. Why are you so invested in your lies and denials?

I'm invested in the notion that Youngkin won bc parents correctly perceived that the school board was out of line. I'm sure there were some crazies at the meetings and some threats of violence. However, I dont believe your narrative that parents who want things like safe schools and normal history lessons are violent right wing extremists. And the fact that there were no indictments really casts doubt on your version of events, in which school officials suffered violence. Kids suffered violence in those schools. And no trans children were involved whatsoever, so the political narrative is a total red herring by the left to villanize the parents.

Turns out there were in fact arrests and indictments of people who made threats over the Loudoun County Stone Bridge High School rape. https://www.insidenova.com/headlines/alexandria-man-31-charged-with-making-threats-to-loudoun-high-school/article_83bd263e-5337-11ec-a1b4-5b0a55b44cc4.html

That, combined with the fact that the far right did in fact make it about trans bathrooms, casts doubt on YOUR version of events.

DP. So, you realize that ONE arrest =/= "arrests and indictments of people," right? One person was arrested. Are any of your posts truthful?

Same pp claimed that the people at the Loudon school board meetings were also at the Capitol on Jan 6. Probably has a wall with red string and pics of randos.

DP... Frankly it wouldn't be one bit surprised if some of the far right jackasses here on DCUM were at both and I don't even need a board with pictures and red yarn to see how nuts some of you people are.

"Everyone who disagrees with me is a terrorist or Jan 6 rioter"
-pp

Ehh you guys do that to us all the time. "Anyone who disagrees with me is a radical baby killing antifa commie who hates America"

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Anonymous wrote:Ever since Glenn Youngkin squeaked to victory on a bad-faith platform that exploited suburban fears about public schools, Republicans everywhere have been adopting the playbook. Yell about “parental rights” and attack the phantom CRT menace. Lambast “equity” programs, especially if commitments to those can be juxtaposed against changes to academic programs that are tailored to higher-achieving students like honors classes.

Obviously we all know beyond being a cynical attempt to win elections, the real agenda behind this attack on education is to dumb down the future electorate since poorly educated people tend to vote more conservative. It’s also about trying to redirect taxpayer dollars to fund public schools to for-profit companies that run charter schools and also to religious-based private schools.

In Florida, Ron DeSantis has taken it a bit further and, in the name of protesting “liberal indoctrination” at post-secondary education (something that doesn’t actually exist, like CRT being taught in grade schools, but the dumbed down and frightened electorate doesn’t grasp this) but deliberately doing things like trying to turn a public school into a bastion of right-wing, reactionary education (see what’s happening at the New College).

But this has all gone completely meta now. Even as Republicans complain that the focus on equity in K-12 is resulting in things like honors programs being emphasized, DeSantis (whose policies and rhetoric are copied as much as Youngkin’s) is planning to do with AP courses IN THEIR ENTIRETY in Florida high schools. Because they’re too woke or something.

https://www.tampabay.com/news/education/2023/02/18/4-things-know-about-ron-desantis-idea-slash-ap-courses-florida/

Make it make sense.

Not only that, Youngkin sent out a bat signal and got far right activists from all around the country to converge on NoVA school board meetings pretending to be local parents shrieking about everything and anything including imaginary CRT, resulting in school board members and school officials receiving horrific threats to rape and murder them and their children, burn their houses down and so on.

Calling it bad-faith is too gentle.

You are willfully ignoring what happened. Read the Grand Jury report.

The rape and how it was handled was bad, yes. But the far right also willfully ignored a lot of other aspects of the case that were out of the district's hands and made a lot of wrongful accusations, along with their far-right CRT lies and everything else. And despite the rape, NOTHING warranted those far right loons storming meetings lying and falsely pretending they were district parents, and making horrific threats to rape, torture, burn alive, murder school board members, school officials and their families. That was utterly disgusting, terroristic behavior by the far right and you may not willfully ignore that either.

This is what I remember about the parents who "stormed" the meeting.

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Can you imagine being the parent of a girl who was raped - and then being treated like this? Just disgusting. The PP is repulsive.

Stop it.

The rape is one issue. It was horrible and was badly mishandled.

BUT. The violent threats are a separate issue, absolutely NOT justified by the first. And the violent threats weren't just about the rape, since school boards in many other places around the country were also accosted by right wing extremists. The violent threats have been over CRT and every other delusional fever dream of the far right.

Okay. Go ask the FBI to investigate all those terrorist parents.

Oh wait.

The FBI was in fact called in. https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-addresses-violent-threats-against-school-officials-and-teachers

So no indictments. As we were saying, girls actually got raped at Loudon schools due to callous behavior by school officials. Violence against school officials never occurred.

I have no idea if there were indictments or not but the threats of violence definitely happened. I had a number of bookmarked posts when I was still on Twitter, that included recordings of phone messages, screenshots of text messages and emails, photos of notes received by mail and even placed at their houses. There were a LOT of threats, and many were grotesque and disgusting.

FBI and local police investigated (I also recall seeing posts from Loudoun County Sheriffs Department about it), but as often is the case, the perpetrators likely just off with a warning, despite it being a felony in most jurisdictions to threaten to harm people or destroy their property under terrorstic threat statutes.

It's truly bizarre that you are SO invested in lying, denying the threats occurred, repeatedly attempting to gaslight posters by calling them "insane," dismissing articles as "not credible" and so on.
Nobody here ever denied the rape happened. Why are you so invested in your lies and denials?

I'm invested in the notion that Youngkin won bc parents correctly perceived that the school board was out of line. I'm sure there were some crazies at the meetings and some threats of violence. However, I dont believe your narrative that parents who want things like safe schools and normal history lessons are violent right wing extremists. And the fact that there were no indictments really casts doubt on your version of events, in which school officials suffered violence. Kids suffered violence in those schools. And no trans children were involved whatsoever, so the political narrative is a total red herring by the left to villanize the parents.

Turns out there were in fact arrests and indictments of people who made threats over the Loudoun County Stone Bridge High School rape. https://www.insidenova.com/headlines/alexandria-man-31-charged-with-making-threats-to-loudoun-high-school/article_83bd263e-5337-11ec-a1b4-5b0a55b44cc4.html

That, combined with the fact that the far right did in fact make it about trans bathrooms, casts doubt on YOUR version of events.

DP. So, you realize that ONE arrest =/= "arrests and indictments of people," right? One person was arrested. Are any of your posts truthful?

Same pp claimed that the people at the Loudon school board meetings were also at the Capitol on Jan 6. Probably has a wall with red string and pics of randos.

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Anonymous wrote:Teachers should not talk to 3rd graders about sex. This shouldnt be controversial. It was common sense 5 years ago. This is why DeSantis has appeal, because you are correct, the left is terrifying when it comes to the bizarre insistence that children should learn about things like dildos and oral sex at school.

That’s just it. You erected a straw man. Third grade teachers *don’t* talk to third graders about sex. The fact that you think they do makes you either gullible or a lying liar who lies.

Then its all a non-issue and no one should be upset about the new restrictions.

Well, no, they should be teaching children about different kinds of families, etc. which has nothing to do with teaching about “sex.”

I am also against banning books. If that’s your thing, leave my country.

I dont care if my kids learn about different types of families at school. This is something they pick up just by being alive, going to peoples houses, and hanging out in their neighborhood. It doesnt require special instruction.

I am also against banning books. But I dont think that means we should buy any and all books for public school libraries. No normal person thinks we should stock public school libraries with terrorist propaganda, porn, etc. It's normal to believe age-appropriate, educational material.

I don’t care what you want. The rest of us want it. This is important. Because schools exist to educate children for what society needs, and that often means exposing them to ideas that are contrary to what their parents value. This is particularly important when the parents are bigoted, as you appear to be.

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You want porn and terrorist propaganda? Do you even believe what you are saying? Or, are you just babbling back and someone you disagree with?

When people show you who they are, believe them.

They also want CRT in schools, if you read their responses.

They want sexual material and CRT in schools. This isnt a misunderstanding.

There is no CRT in schools. If you believe learning about slavery, heroes of the underground railroad and the horrors of reconstruction or system racism in banking and segregation are CRT then I don't know what to tell you.

No one is claiming any of the above is CRT. You seem confused between what is actual history and what is an underlying narrative that the US (and white people, specifically) are - and always will be - irredeemably racist. All school kids already learn about the bolded.

What I cited that you bolded, most on the right consider to be "CRT" - so until the idiots who rally against it understand the difference, I will stand by my statement. Also, CRT does not exist in any elementary or high schools.

Wrong. The only idiots here are those who write what you just did. No one on the right objects to teaching factual history - after all, it's been taught for decades with no issues. It's only since BLM came on the scene that history lessons started reflecting elements of CRT. Teachers are now trained in CRT concepts. While there are no "direct" CRT teachings in schools, there are certainly many lessons that reflect CRT thought. You can deny it as much as you want, but there is plenty of proof online. FCPS is just one school system that has spent *thousands* of dollars in teacher training with The Leadership Academy. Of course, they call that "Culturally Responsive Training," another unfortunate CRT acronym. I don't think I've ever read quite as much utter bull$hit as what's contained in the links below (all contracted programs with FCPS).

https://go.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/files/BXX5YN128A2F/$file/FCPS%20Stakeholder%20Engagement%20Proposal%20FINAL%20SENT.pdf
https://www.leadershipacademy.org/blog/the-racially-responsive-facilitator/
https://www.leadershipacademy.org/blog/expect-pushback-when-leading-for-equity/
https://www.leadershipacademy.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Rebrand-Version-Equity-Leadership-Dispositions.pdf
https://go.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/files/BTFRCZ6CA62E/$file/Final%20Anti-Racism%20Anti-Bias%20Curriculum%20Work%20Session%20Sept%2014%202020.pdf

You mean about the Africans who were happy and jovial workers in the fields? Please.

"What ho, fellow African worker brethren, our easy day of work is done, let us now gather up our families and our musical instruments and feast and frolic with gaiety because life is so good!"

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There is no "don't say gay" in the bill you're referring to.
He had nothing to do with the menstrual cycle issue.

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I'm not going to pretend that we havent been teaching slavery, the Underground Railroad, segregation and Jim Crow in schools. I learned about this in school. So did you. That is how we all know about it.

So the question is, do you think our kids should continue learning about slavery? I feel like most people would say yes. Slavery is part of our history. It happened.
But...if you purposely mislabel the teaching of slavery as "critical race theory" then you can muddy the waters without seeming overtly racist. It's a dog whistle.

https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/2022/06/29/florida-teachers-raise-concerns-about-new-civics-training-say-it-downplays-slavery-promotes-originalism/

Yes. Literally no one is advocating for the removal of history lessons about slavery. In fact, I think the lessons need to go further with actual names of significant slaves in history, such as notable military figures, Sally Hemmings and Thomas Jefferson's kids, etc.

CRT has nothing to do with teaching history accurately.

You don't know what CRT is or isn't, other than it's a convenient bogeyman word to trigger the right wing.

And you think that no one learned about slavery in schools until BLM showed up. We all just fell off the apple cart, not sure who Harriett Tubman is, learning about slavery through vague rumors.

THIS ^^. What a bunch of poseurs.

You semiliterate goon. Scroll back a few pages to the examples from actual recent textbooks talking about how they were just "African workers" and that slavery was not so bad. There's pleny more where that came from, if you'd bother to actually do some reading.

No. People are well aware that slavery is part of our history. You are rewriting history by claiming that knowledge of slavery has been suppressed.

I mean, bruh. We all read Huckleberry Finn.

Oh come on. I didn't see anyone on this thread claiming knowledge of slavery was suppressed. But it has definitely been downplayed and misrepresented in curricula and textbooks including some current ones (Texas for example has some real doozies), and a lot of what followed up into the present has not been well taught. That's definitely a fact.

People are claiming this. I am friends mostly with liberals and the big trend right now is to pretend we didnt learn about slavery at school, or to pretend we were taught it was NBD.

No. I was never taught that. I was taught that Lincoln was heroic, that slaves fought on both sides-- sometimes being forced to fight for their own enslavement with the confederacy, and that our nation was nearly brought to an end over the issue. Definitely never taught that it was a minor thing. And it would be very difficult to portray it that way given the literal civil war. I am not going to pretend I just found out slavery was a huge issue.

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Obviously we all know beyond being a cynical attempt to win elections, the real agenda behind this attack on education is to dumb down the future electorate since poorly educated people tend to vote more conservative. It’s also about trying to redirect taxpayer dollars to fund public schools to for-profit companies that run charter schools and also to religious-based private schools.

In Florida, Ron DeSantis has taken it a bit further and, in the name of protesting “liberal indoctrination” at post-secondary education (something that doesn’t actually exist, like CRT being taught in grade schools, but the dumbed down and frightened electorate doesn’t grasp this) but deliberately doing things like trying to turn a public school into a bastion of right-wing, reactionary education (see what’s happening at the New College).

But this has all gone completely meta now. Even as Republicans complain that the focus on equity in K-12 is resulting in things like honors programs being emphasized, DeSantis (whose policies and rhetoric are copied as much as Youngkin’s) is planning to do with AP courses IN THEIR ENTIRETY in Florida high schools. Because they’re too woke or something.

https://www.tampabay.com/news/education/2023/02/18/4-things-know-about-ron-desantis-idea-slash-ap-courses-florida/

Make it make sense.

Not only that, Youngkin sent out a bat signal and got far right activists from all around the country to converge on NoVA school board meetings pretending to be local parents shrieking about everything and anything including imaginary CRT, resulting in school board members and school officials receiving horrific threats to rape and murder them and their children, burn their houses down and so on.

Calling it bad-faith is too gentle.

You are willfully ignoring what happened. Read the Grand Jury report.

The rape and how it was handled was bad, yes. But the far right also willfully ignored a lot of other aspects of the case that were out of the district's hands and made a lot of wrongful accusations, along with their far-right CRT lies and everything else. And despite the rape, NOTHING warranted those far right loons storming meetings lying and falsely pretending they were district parents, and making horrific threats to rape, torture, burn alive, murder school board members, school officials and their families. That was utterly disgusting, terroristic behavior by the far right and you may not willfully ignore that either.

This is what I remember about the parents who "stormed" the meeting.

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Can you imagine being the parent of a girl who was raped - and then being treated like this? Just disgusting. The PP is repulsive.

Stop it.

The rape is one issue. It was horrible and was badly mishandled.

BUT. The violent threats are a separate issue, absolutely NOT justified by the first. And the violent threats weren't just about the rape, since school boards in many other places around the country were also accosted by right wing extremists. The violent threats have been over CRT and every other delusional fever dream of the far right.

Okay. Go ask the FBI to investigate all those terrorist parents.

Oh wait.

The FBI was in fact called in. https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-addresses-violent-threats-against-school-officials-and-teachers

So no indictments. As we were saying, girls actually got raped at Loudon schools due to callous behavior by school officials. Violence against school officials never occurred.

I have no idea if there were indictments or not but the threats of violence definitely happened. I had a number of bookmarked posts when I was still on Twitter, that included recordings of phone messages, screenshots of text messages and emails, photos of notes received by mail and even placed at their houses. There were a LOT of threats, and many were grotesque and disgusting.

FBI and local police investigated (I also recall seeing posts from Loudoun County Sheriffs Department about it), but as often is the case, the perpetrators likely just off with a warning, despite it being a felony in most jurisdictions to threaten to harm people or destroy their property under terrorstic threat statutes.

It's truly bizarre that you are SO invested in lying, denying the threats occurred, repeatedly attempting to gaslight posters by calling them "insane," dismissing articles as "not credible" and so on.
Nobody here ever denied the rape happened. Why are you so invested in your lies and denials?

I'm invested in the notion that Youngkin won bc parents correctly perceived that the school board was out of line. I'm sure there were some crazies at the meetings and some threats of violence. However, I dont believe your narrative that parents who want things like safe schools and normal history lessons are violent right wing extremists. And the fact that there were no indictments really casts doubt on your version of events, in which school officials suffered violence. Kids suffered violence in those schools. And no trans children were involved whatsoever, so the political narrative is a total red herring by the left to villanize the parents.

Turns out there were in fact arrests and indictments of people who made threats over the Loudoun County Stone Bridge High School rape. https://www.insidenova.com/headlines/alexandria-man-31-charged-with-making-threats-to-loudoun-high-school/article_83bd263e-5337-11ec-a1b4-5b0a55b44cc4.html

That, combined with the fact that the far right did in fact make it about trans bathrooms, casts doubt on YOUR version of events.

DP. So, you realize that ONE arrest =/= "arrests and indictments of people," right? One person was arrested. Are any of your posts truthful?

Same pp claimed that the people at the Loudon school board meetings were also at the Capitol on Jan 6. Probably has a wall with red string and pics of randos.

DP... Frankly it wouldn't be one bit surprised if some of the far right jackasses here on DCUM were at both and I don't even need a board with pictures and red yarn to see how nuts some of you people are.

"Everyone who disagrees with me is a terrorist or Jan 6 rioter"
-pp

Ehh you guys do that to us all the time. "Anyone who disagrees with me is a radical baby killing antifa commie who hates America"

And yet none of us have accused fellow DCUMers of being antifa. Hmm.

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The only people (deliberately) mislabeling the teaching of slavery as "CRT" are liberals. It's been stated again and again that teaching the factual history of slavery is NOT CRT, and is not considered such. Liberals continue to twist words and insist that the teaching of slavery is what is being objected to. Complete lies.

How are liberals twisting words? They're the ones who insist that CRT is not being taught in our schools. If conservatives agreed with that there would be no need for them to ban CRT.

Let me put it to you this way. Remember "Defund the Police"? We were told over and over that that's not what was really meant, and that it actually took several stultifying paragraphs to explain the true intent behind that stupid slogan.

"CRT" has become shorthand for loading history and social science lessons with bias and indoctrination. Yes, we are all aware that college level CRT is not actually being taught in our secondary schools. However, elements of CRT - heavy on victimization, "anti-racism," white people bad, etc. are most definitely present in recent curricula, which is why there has been pushback in recent years. Please stop with the deliberately obtuse act when discussing CRT in schools. At this point, anyone with half a brain understands what is meant by the phrase.

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Anonymous wrote:Ever since Glenn Youngkin squeaked to victory on a bad-faith platform that exploited suburban fears about public schools, Republicans everywhere have been adopting the playbook. Yell about “parental rights” and attack the phantom CRT menace. Lambast “equity” programs, especially if commitments to those can be juxtaposed against changes to academic programs that are tailored to higher-achieving students like honors classes.

Obviously we all know beyond being a cynical attempt to win elections, the real agenda behind this attack on education is to dumb down the future electorate since poorly educated people tend to vote more conservative. It’s also about trying to redirect taxpayer dollars to fund public schools to for-profit companies that run charter schools and also to religious-based private schools.

In Florida, Ron DeSantis has taken it a bit further and, in the name of protesting “liberal indoctrination” at post-secondary education (something that doesn’t actually exist, like CRT being taught in grade schools, but the dumbed down and frightened electorate doesn’t grasp this) but deliberately doing things like trying to turn a public school into a bastion of right-wing, reactionary education (see what’s happening at the New College).

But this has all gone completely meta now. Even as Republicans complain that the focus on equity in K-12 is resulting in things like honors programs being emphasized, DeSantis (whose policies and rhetoric are copied as much as Youngkin’s) is planning to do with AP courses IN THEIR ENTIRETY in Florida high schools. Because they’re too woke or something.

https://www.tampabay.com/news/education/2023/02/18/4-things-know-about-ron-desantis-idea-slash-ap-courses-florida/

Make it make sense.

Not only that, Youngkin sent out a bat signal and got far right activists from all around the country to converge on NoVA school board meetings pretending to be local parents shrieking about everything and anything including imaginary CRT, resulting in school board members and school officials receiving horrific threats to rape and murder them and their children, burn their houses down and so on.

Calling it bad-faith is too gentle.

You are willfully ignoring what happened. Read the Grand Jury report.

The rape and how it was handled was bad, yes. But the far right also willfully ignored a lot of other aspects of the case that were out of the district's hands and made a lot of wrongful accusations, along with their far-right CRT lies and everything else. And despite the rape, NOTHING warranted those far right loons storming meetings lying and falsely pretending they were district parents, and making horrific threats to rape, torture, burn alive, murder school board members, school officials and their families. That was utterly disgusting, terroristic behavior by the far right and you may not willfully ignore that either.

This is what I remember about the parents who "stormed" the meeting.

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Can you imagine being the parent of a girl who was raped - and then being treated like this? Just disgusting. The PP is repulsive.

Stop it.

The rape is one issue. It was horrible and was badly mishandled.

BUT. The violent threats are a separate issue, absolutely NOT justified by the first. And the violent threats weren't just about the rape, since school boards in many other places around the country were also accosted by right wing extremists. The violent threats have been over CRT and every other delusional fever dream of the far right.

Okay. Go ask the FBI to investigate all those terrorist parents.

Oh wait.

The FBI was in fact called in. https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-addresses-violent-threats-against-school-officials-and-teachers

So no indictments. As we were saying, girls actually got raped at Loudon schools due to callous behavior by school officials. Violence against school officials never occurred.

I have no idea if there were indictments or not but the threats of violence definitely happened. I had a number of bookmarked posts when I was still on Twitter, that included recordings of phone messages, screenshots of text messages and emails, photos of notes received by mail and even placed at their houses. There were a LOT of threats, and many were grotesque and disgusting.

FBI and local police investigated (I also recall seeing posts from Loudoun County Sheriffs Department about it), but as often is the case, the perpetrators likely just off with a warning, despite it being a felony in most jurisdictions to threaten to harm people or destroy their property under terrorstic threat statutes.

It's truly bizarre that you are SO invested in lying, denying the threats occurred, repeatedly attempting to gaslight posters by calling them "insane," dismissing articles as "not credible" and so on.
Nobody here ever denied the rape happened. Why are you so invested in your lies and denials?

I'm invested in the notion that Youngkin won bc parents correctly perceived that the school board was out of line. I'm sure there were some crazies at the meetings and some threats of violence. However, I dont believe your narrative that parents who want things like safe schools and normal history lessons are violent right wing extremists. And the fact that there were no indictments really casts doubt on your version of events, in which school officials suffered violence. Kids suffered violence in those schools. And no trans children were involved whatsoever, so the political narrative is a total red herring by the left to villanize the parents.

Turns out there were in fact arrests and indictments of people who made threats over the Loudoun County Stone Bridge High School rape. https://www.insidenova.com/headlines/alexandria-man-31-charged-with-making-threats-to-loudoun-high-school/article_83bd263e-5337-11ec-a1b4-5b0a55b44cc4.html

That, combined with the fact that the far right did in fact make it about trans bathrooms, casts doubt on YOUR version of events.

DP. So, you realize that ONE arrest =/= "arrests and indictments of people," right? One person was arrested. Are any of your posts truthful?

Same pp claimed that the people at the Loudon school board meetings were also at the Capitol on Jan 6. Probably has a wall with red string and pics of randos.

Ahhh I see you've sent us a picture from your basement wall of how Joe Biden is in league with China and George Soros and the plan to eliminate all police to help the mexican cartels that secretly work for Sleepy Joe to help him bring the fentanyl and illegals in because he gets a cut of the drug money which he is using to buy adenochrome harvested from millions of abducted children, and he uses the rest to fund the World Economic Forum's plan to have you live in a pod and eat bugs while he and Bill Gates implant you with microchips, which will make you magnetic and control your brain so that you become unaware of the secret Ukrainian bio labs that produce covid and mutant soldiers created by dangerous mRNA, while the secret Dominion satellites orbiting above change your ballot or some shit... It's so damn hard to keep up with all of the constant barrage of right wing crazy....

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Anonymous wrote:Teachers should not talk to 3rd graders about sex. This shouldnt be controversial. It was common sense 5 years ago. This is why DeSantis has appeal, because you are correct, the left is terrifying when it comes to the bizarre insistence that children should learn about things like dildos and oral sex at school.

That’s just it. You erected a straw man. Third grade teachers *don’t* talk to third graders about sex. The fact that you think they do makes you either gullible or a lying liar who lies.

Then its all a non-issue and no one should be upset about the new restrictions.

Well, no, they should be teaching children about different kinds of families, etc. which has nothing to do with teaching about “sex.”

I am also against banning books. If that’s your thing, leave my country.

I dont care if my kids learn about different types of families at school. This is something they pick up just by being alive, going to peoples houses, and hanging out in their neighborhood. It doesnt require special instruction.

I am also against banning books. But I dont think that means we should buy any and all books for public school libraries. No normal person thinks we should stock public school libraries with terrorist propaganda, porn, etc. It's normal to believe age-appropriate, educational material.

I don’t care what you want. The rest of us want it. This is important. Because schools exist to educate children for what society needs, and that often means exposing them to ideas that are contrary to what their parents value. This is particularly important when the parents are bigoted, as you appear to be.

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You want porn and terrorist propaganda? Do you even believe what you are saying? Or, are you just babbling back and someone you disagree with?

When people show you who they are, believe them.

They also want CRT in schools, if you read their responses.

They want sexual material and CRT in schools. This isnt a misunderstanding.

There is no CRT in schools. If you believe learning about slavery, heroes of the underground railroad and the horrors of reconstruction or system racism in banking and segregation are CRT then I don't know what to tell you.

No one is claiming any of the above is CRT. You seem confused between what is actual history and what is an underlying narrative that the US (and white people, specifically) are - and always will be - irredeemably racist. All school kids already learn about the bolded.

What I cited that you bolded, most on the right consider to be "CRT" - so until the idiots who rally against it understand the difference, I will stand by my statement. Also, CRT does not exist in any elementary or high schools.

Wrong. The only idiots here are those who write what you just did. No one on the right objects to teaching factual history - after all, it's been taught for decades with no issues. It's only since BLM came on the scene that history lessons started reflecting elements of CRT. Teachers are now trained in CRT concepts. While there are no "direct" CRT teachings in schools, there are certainly many lessons that reflect CRT thought. You can deny it as much as you want, but there is plenty of proof online. FCPS is just one school system that has spent *thousands* of dollars in teacher training with The Leadership Academy. Of course, they call that "Culturally Responsive Training," another unfortunate CRT acronym. I don't think I've ever read quite as much utter bull$hit as what's contained in the links below (all contracted programs with FCPS).

https://go.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/files/BXX5YN128A2F/$file/FCPS%20Stakeholder%20Engagement%20Proposal%20FINAL%20SENT.pdf
https://www.leadershipacademy.org/blog/the-racially-responsive-facilitator/
https://www.leadershipacademy.org/blog/expect-pushback-when-leading-for-equity/
https://www.leadershipacademy.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Rebrand-Version-Equity-Leadership-Dispositions.pdf
https://go.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/files/BTFRCZ6CA62E/$file/Final%20Anti-Racism%20Anti-Bias%20Curriculum%20Work%20Session%20Sept%2014%202020.pdf

You mean about the Africans who were happy and jovial workers in the fields? Please.

You have mentioned this trope several times and I can honestly say - where are you seeing this? I'm 54 and have never, ever read anything that even resembles that. Nor have my children. Did you bother to read any of the above links?

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Obviously we all know beyond being a cynical attempt to win elections, the real agenda behind this attack on education is to dumb down the future electorate since poorly educated people tend to vote more conservative. It’s also about trying to redirect taxpayer dollars to fund public schools to for-profit companies that run charter schools and also to religious-based private schools.

In Florida, Ron DeSantis has taken it a bit further and, in the name of protesting “liberal indoctrination” at post-secondary education (something that doesn’t actually exist, like CRT being taught in grade schools, but the dumbed down and frightened electorate doesn’t grasp this) but deliberately doing things like trying to turn a public school into a bastion of right-wing, reactionary education (see what’s happening at the New College).

But this has all gone completely meta now. Even as Republicans complain that the focus on equity in K-12 is resulting in things like honors programs being emphasized, DeSantis (whose policies and rhetoric are copied as much as Youngkin’s) is planning to do with AP courses IN THEIR ENTIRETY in Florida high schools. Because they’re too woke or something.

https://www.tampabay.com/news/education/2023/02/18/4-things-know-about-ron-desantis-idea-slash-ap-courses-florida/

Make it make sense.

Not only that, Youngkin sent out a bat signal and got far right activists from all around the country to converge on NoVA school board meetings pretending to be local parents shrieking about everything and anything including imaginary CRT, resulting in school board members and school officials receiving horrific threats to rape and murder them and their children, burn their houses down and so on.

Calling it bad-faith is too gentle.

You are willfully ignoring what happened. Read the Grand Jury report.

The rape and how it was handled was bad, yes. But the far right also willfully ignored a lot of other aspects of the case that were out of the district's hands and made a lot of wrongful accusations, along with their far-right CRT lies and everything else. And despite the rape, NOTHING warranted those far right loons storming meetings lying and falsely pretending they were district parents, and making horrific threats to rape, torture, burn alive, murder school board members, school officials and their families. That was utterly disgusting, terroristic behavior by the far right and you may not willfully ignore that either.

This is what I remember about the parents who "stormed" the meeting.

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Can you imagine being the parent of a girl who was raped - and then being treated like this? Just disgusting. The PP is repulsive.

Stop it.

The rape is one issue. It was horrible and was badly mishandled.

BUT. The violent threats are a separate issue, absolutely NOT justified by the first. And the violent threats weren't just about the rape, since school boards in many other places around the country were also accosted by right wing extremists. The violent threats have been over CRT and every other delusional fever dream of the far right.

Okay. Go ask the FBI to investigate all those terrorist parents.

Oh wait.

The FBI was in fact called in. https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-addresses-violent-threats-against-school-officials-and-teachers

So no indictments. As we were saying, girls actually got raped at Loudon schools due to callous behavior by school officials. Violence against school officials never occurred.

I have no idea if there were indictments or not but the threats of violence definitely happened. I had a number of bookmarked posts when I was still on Twitter, that included recordings of phone messages, screenshots of text messages and emails, photos of notes received by mail and even placed at their houses. There were a LOT of threats, and many were grotesque and disgusting.

FBI and local police investigated (I also recall seeing posts from Loudoun County Sheriffs Department about it), but as often is the case, the perpetrators likely just off with a warning, despite it being a felony in most jurisdictions to threaten to harm people or destroy their property under terrorstic threat statutes.

It's truly bizarre that you are SO invested in lying, denying the threats occurred, repeatedly attempting to gaslight posters by calling them "insane," dismissing articles as "not credible" and so on.
Nobody here ever denied the rape happened. Why are you so invested in your lies and denials?

I'm invested in the notion that Youngkin won bc parents correctly perceived that the school board was out of line. I'm sure there were some crazies at the meetings and some threats of violence. However, I dont believe your narrative that parents who want things like safe schools and normal history lessons are violent right wing extremists. And the fact that there were no indictments really casts doubt on your version of events, in which school officials suffered violence. Kids suffered violence in those schools. And no trans children were involved whatsoever, so the political narrative is a total red herring by the left to villanize the parents.

Turns out there were in fact arrests and indictments of people who made threats over the Loudoun County Stone Bridge High School rape. https://www.insidenova.com/headlines/alexandria-man-31-charged-with-making-threats-to-loudoun-high-school/article_83bd263e-5337-11ec-a1b4-5b0a55b44cc4.html

That, combined with the fact that the far right did in fact make it about trans bathrooms, casts doubt on YOUR version of events.

DP. So, you realize that ONE arrest =/= "arrests and indictments of people," right? One person was arrested. Are any of your posts truthful?

Same pp claimed that the people at the Loudon school board meetings were also at the Capitol on Jan 6. Probably has a wall with red string and pics of randos.

DP... Frankly it wouldn't be one bit surprised if some of the far right jackasses here on DCUM were at both and I don't even need a board with pictures and red yarn to see how nuts some of you people are.

"Everyone who disagrees with me is a terrorist or Jan 6 rioter"
-pp

Ehh you guys do that to us all the time. "Anyone who disagrees with me is a radical baby killing antifa commie who hates America"

And yet none of us have accused fellow DCUMers of being antifa. Hmm.

Yes you did accuse fellow DCUMers of being antifa, all throughout the Summer of Floyd. Along with all of the insane "iT wUZ AntIfA" crap after January 6th.