Conservative confusion over schools

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DeSantis/FL are not only going after AP courses, they're also looking at a "classical and Christian" alternative to the SAT.

https://www.tampabay.com/news/florida-politics/202...e-board-ap-sat/?lctg=136252390

No APs will be a setback for many students. They will be far behind their out-of-state peers. Also, if he goes forward with an "alternative to the SAT" that will HUGELY limit the number of colleges and universities those kids can attend.

I feel particularly bad for teenage Floridian girls right now - invasive inquiries about their menstrual cycles, severe restrictions put on their reproductive health, and now having their collegiate future stripped away from them. It's like Florida is sliding straight into a dystopian hellscape right out of the Handmaid's Tale.

You are so uninformed, pp. Find other sources. Find out what DeSantis actually said and what he wants to do.

[Anonymous]

The suburbs with “good schools” used to vote uniformly Republican.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DeSantis/FL are not only going after AP courses, they're also looking at a "classical and Christian" alternative to the SAT.

https://www.tampabay.com/news/florida-politics/202...e-board-ap-sat/?lctg=136252390

No APs will be a setback for many students. They will be far behind their out-of-state peers. Also, if he goes forward with an "alternative to the SAT" that will HUGELY limit the number of colleges and universities those kids can attend.

I feel particularly bad for teenage Floridian girls right now - invasive inquiries about their menstrual cycles, severe restrictions put on their reproductive health, and now having their collegiate future stripped away from them. It's like Florida is sliding straight into a dystopian hellscape right out of the Handmaid's Tale.

You are so uninformed, pp. Find other sources. Find out what DeSantis actually said and what he wants to do.

DP. Ron Desantis is a doofus who is going on this tangent because it gets hIm attention and because you can rile up low information voters by labeling things woke. Low hanging fruit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DeSantis/FL are not only going after AP courses, they're also looking at a "classical and Christian" alternative to the SAT.

https://www.tampabay.com/news/florida-politics/202...e-board-ap-sat/?lctg=136252390

No APs will be a setback for many students. They will be far behind their out-of-state peers. Also, if he goes forward with an "alternative to the SAT" that will HUGELY limit the number of colleges and universities those kids can attend.

I feel particularly bad for teenage Floridian girls right now - invasive inquiries about their menstrual cycles, severe restrictions put on their reproductive health, and now having their collegiate future stripped away from them. It's like Florida is sliding straight into a dystopian hellscape right out of the Handmaid's Tale.

You are so uninformed, pp. Find other sources. Find out what DeSantis actually said and what he wants to do.

DP. Ron Desantis is a doofus who is going on this tangent because it gets hIm attention and because you can rile up low information voters by labeling things woke. Low hanging fruit.

Honey. The only "low information" person around here is YOU..... You choose to get all worked up about things that frankly are not true. The media you are consuming has you with your panties in a wad all because they have fed you sound bytes and biased stories. Find new sources and save your mental health.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DeSantis/FL are not only going after AP courses, they're also looking at a "classical and Christian" alternative to the SAT.

https://www.tampabay.com/news/florida-politics/202...e-board-ap-sat/?lctg=136252390

No APs will be a setback for many students. They will be far behind their out-of-state peers. Also, if he goes forward with an "alternative to the SAT" that will HUGELY limit the number of colleges and universities those kids can attend.

I feel particularly bad for teenage Floridian girls right now - invasive inquiries about their menstrual cycles, severe restrictions put on their reproductive health, and now having their collegiate future stripped away from them. It's like Florida is sliding straight into a dystopian hellscape right out of the Handmaid's Tale.

You are so uninformed, pp. Find other sources. Find out what DeSantis actually said and what he wants to do.

Nope, the source is DeSantis and this is what he wants to do. Stop dodging and deflecting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DeSantis/FL are not only going after AP courses, they're also looking at a "classical and Christian" alternative to the SAT.

https://www.tampabay.com/news/florida-politics/202...e-board-ap-sat/?lctg=136252390

No APs will be a setback for many students. They will be far behind their out-of-state peers. Also, if he goes forward with an "alternative to the SAT" that will HUGELY limit the number of colleges and universities those kids can attend.

I feel particularly bad for teenage Floridian girls right now - invasive inquiries about their menstrual cycles, severe restrictions put on their reproductive health, and now having their collegiate future stripped away from them. It's like Florida is sliding straight into a dystopian hellscape right out of the Handmaid's Tale.

You are so uninformed, pp. Find other sources. Find out what DeSantis actually said and what he wants to do.

Nope, the source is DeSantis and this is what he wants to do. Stop dodging and deflecting.

Watch the video posted above. They are looking at options. Right now, they have dual enrollment for college credit. How exactly is that "having their collegiate future stripped away from them?" It isn't. They are also looking at IB courses...... something schools all over the country have. They are also looking at other advanced coursework from other vendors. So, tell me again - how does this equate to "having their collegiate future stripped away from them?"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ever since Glenn Youngkin squeaked to victory on a bad-faith platform that exploited suburban fears about public schools, Republicans everywhere have been adopting the playbook. Yell about “parental rights” and attack the phantom CRT menace. Lambast “equity” programs, especially if commitments to those can be juxtaposed against changes to academic programs that are tailored to higher-achieving students like honors classes.

Obviously we all know beyond being a cynical attempt to win elections, the real agenda behind this attack on education is to dumb down the future electorate since poorly educated people tend to vote more conservative. It’s also about trying to redirect taxpayer dollars to fund public schools to for-profit companies that run charter schools and also to religious-based private schools.

In Florida, Ron DeSantis has taken it a bit further and, in the name of protesting “liberal indoctrination” at post-secondary education (something that doesn’t actually exist, like CRT being taught in grade schools, but the dumbed down and frightened electorate doesn’t grasp this) but deliberately doing things like trying to turn a public school into a bastion of right-wing, reactionary education (see what’s happening at the New College).

But this has all gone completely meta now. Even as Republicans complain that the focus on equity in K-12 is resulting in things like honors programs being emphasized, DeSantis (whose policies and rhetoric are copied as much as Youngkin’s) is planning to do with AP courses IN THEIR ENTIRETY in Florida high schools. Because they’re too woke or something.

https://www.tampabay.com/news/education/2023/02/18/4-things-know-about-ron-desantis-idea-slash-ap-courses-florida/

Make it make sense.

Not only that, Youngkin sent out a bat signal and got far right activists from all around the country to converge on NoVA school board meetings pretending to be local parents shrieking about everything and anything including imaginary CRT, resulting in school board members and school officials receiving horrific threats to rape and murder them and their children, burn their houses down and so on.

Calling it bad-faith is too gentle.

You are willfully ignoring what happened. Read the Grand Jury report.

The rape and how it was handled was bad, yes. But the far right also willfully ignored a lot of other aspects of the case that were out of the district's hands and made a lot of wrongful accusations, along with their far-right CRT lies and everything else. And despite the rape, NOTHING warranted those far right loons storming meetings lying and falsely pretending they were district parents, and making horrific threats to rape, torture, burn alive, murder school board members, school officials and their families. That was utterly disgusting, terroristic behavior by the far right and you may not willfully ignore that either.

[Anonymous]

They weren't "storming" meetings. They were speaking up as they should have.

You aren't the only ones who get to protest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DeSantis/FL are not only going after AP courses, they're also looking at a "classical and Christian" alternative to the SAT.

https://www.tampabay.com/news/florida-politics/202...e-board-ap-sat/?lctg=136252390

No APs will be a setback for many students. They will be far behind their out-of-state peers. Also, if he goes forward with an "alternative to the SAT" that will HUGELY limit the number of colleges and universities those kids can attend.

I feel particularly bad for teenage Floridian girls right now - invasive inquiries about their menstrual cycles, severe restrictions put on their reproductive health, and now having their collegiate future stripped away from them. It's like Florida is sliding straight into a dystopian hellscape right out of the Handmaid's Tale.

You are so uninformed, pp. Find other sources. Find out what DeSantis actually said and what he wants to do.

Nope, the source is DeSantis and this is what he wants to do. Stop dodging and deflecting.

What are you talking about?

DeSantis never asked for menstrual information. It was an optional field that career state govt workers added and dropped.

AP isnt the only or even the best college prep.

The move away from SATs was started by the left. Having a test that focuses on Western literature and philosophy isnt "religious dogma" no matter how you try to reframe it.

There's a reason so many people are moving to Florida and its not because DeSantis is a religious, anti-education nut. Quite the opposite-- he kept schools open during covid while blue states kept them closed. Most southern states have free or mostly free college. This is what people want for their kids. Not the illiterate, slogan-based thinking, anti-progress Orwellian crap you're selling.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ever since Glenn Youngkin squeaked to victory on a bad-faith platform that exploited suburban fears about public schools, Republicans everywhere have been adopting the playbook. Yell about “parental rights” and attack the phantom CRT menace. Lambast “equity” programs, especially if commitments to those can be juxtaposed against changes to academic programs that are tailored to higher-achieving students like honors classes.

Obviously we all know beyond being a cynical attempt to win elections, the real agenda behind this attack on education is to dumb down the future electorate since poorly educated people tend to vote more conservative. It’s also about trying to redirect taxpayer dollars to fund public schools to for-profit companies that run charter schools and also to religious-based private schools.

In Florida, Ron DeSantis has taken it a bit further and, in the name of protesting “liberal indoctrination” at post-secondary education (something that doesn’t actually exist, like CRT being taught in grade schools, but the dumbed down and frightened electorate doesn’t grasp this) but deliberately doing things like trying to turn a public school into a bastion of right-wing, reactionary education (see what’s happening at the New College).

But this has all gone completely meta now. Even as Republicans complain that the focus on equity in K-12 is resulting in things like honors programs being emphasized, DeSantis (whose policies and rhetoric are copied as much as Youngkin’s) is planning to do with AP courses IN THEIR ENTIRETY in Florida high schools. Because they’re too woke or something.

https://www.tampabay.com/news/education/2023/02/18/4-things-know-about-ron-desantis-idea-slash-ap-courses-florida/

Make it make sense.

Not only that, Youngkin sent out a bat signal and got far right activists from all around the country to converge on NoVA school board meetings pretending to be local parents shrieking about everything and anything including imaginary CRT, resulting in school board members and school officials receiving horrific threats to rape and murder them and their children, burn their houses down and so on.

Calling it bad-faith is too gentle.

You are willfully ignoring what happened. Read the Grand Jury report.

The rape and how it was handled was bad, yes. But the far right also willfully ignored a lot of other aspects of the case that were out of the district's hands and made a lot of wrongful accusations, along with their far-right CRT lies and everything else. And despite the rape, NOTHING warranted those far right loons storming meetings lying and falsely pretending they were district parents, and making horrific threats to rape, torture, burn alive, murder school board members, school officials and their families. That was utterly disgusting, terroristic behavior by the far right and you may not willfully ignore that either.

This is what I remember about the parents who "stormed" the meeting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DeSantis/FL are not only going after AP courses, they're also looking at a "classical and Christian" alternative to the SAT.

https://www.tampabay.com/news/florida-politics/202...e-board-ap-sat/?lctg=136252390

No APs will be a setback for many students. They will be far behind their out-of-state peers. Also, if he goes forward with an "alternative to the SAT" that will HUGELY limit the number of colleges and universities those kids can attend.

I feel particularly bad for teenage Floridian girls right now - invasive inquiries about their menstrual cycles, severe restrictions put on their reproductive health, and now having their collegiate future stripped away from them. It's like Florida is sliding straight into a dystopian hellscape right out of the Handmaid's Tale.

You are so uninformed, pp. Find other sources. Find out what DeSantis actually said and what he wants to do.

Nope, the source is DeSantis and this is what he wants to do. Stop dodging and deflecting.

Watch the video posted above. They are looking at options. Right now, they have dual enrollment for college credit. How exactly is that "having their collegiate future stripped away from them?" It isn't. They are also looking at IB courses...... something schools all over the country have. They are also looking at other advanced coursework from other vendors. So, tell me again - how does this equate to "having their collegiate future stripped away from them?"

A majority of colleges and universities in America require an SAT or ACT score for determining eligibility for admission. And Florida has less than 20 IB schools statewide. If tomorrow, Florida were to get rid of AP and other college placement and aptitude tests and rely on IB schools, only a few thousand Florida students out of 185,000 graduating would be able to be accepted into college this fall.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can't make it make sense. I'm sorry. Read that DeSantis had such a landslide victory, and a massive mandate, so of course he wants to make his stamp on public education.

(?? I don't know why his stamp would be to dumb down his state. I can't help with what the conservatives see as "education")

The silver lining is that FL students are having none of this, are planning walkouts for all these crazy policies, and they are the voters or soon-to-be voters! They are aware and active!

Curious: do you consider private schools doing away with AP classes to be "crazy" and "dumbing down"?
NP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ever since Glenn Youngkin squeaked to victory on a bad-faith platform that exploited suburban fears about public schools, Republicans everywhere have been adopting the playbook. Yell about “parental rights” and attack the phantom CRT menace. Lambast “equity” programs, especially if commitments to those can be juxtaposed against changes to academic programs that are tailored to higher-achieving students like honors classes.

Obviously we all know beyond being a cynical attempt to win elections, the real agenda behind this attack on education is to dumb down the future electorate since poorly educated people tend to vote more conservative. It’s also about trying to redirect taxpayer dollars to fund public schools to for-profit companies that run charter schools and also to religious-based private schools.

In Florida, Ron DeSantis has taken it a bit further and, in the name of protesting “liberal indoctrination” at post-secondary education (something that doesn’t actually exist, like CRT being taught in grade schools, but the dumbed down and frightened electorate doesn’t grasp this) but deliberately doing things like trying to turn a public school into a bastion of right-wing, reactionary education (see what’s happening at the New College).

But this has all gone completely meta now. Even as Republicans complain that the focus on equity in K-12 is resulting in things like honors programs being emphasized, DeSantis (whose policies and rhetoric are copied as much as Youngkin’s) is planning to do with AP courses IN THEIR ENTIRETY in Florida high schools. Because they’re too woke or something.

https://www.tampabay.com/news/education/2023/02/18/4-things-know-about-ron-desantis-idea-slash-ap-courses-florida/

Make it make sense.

Not only that, Youngkin sent out a bat signal and got far right activists from all around the country to converge on NoVA school board meetings pretending to be local parents shrieking about everything and anything including imaginary CRT, resulting in school board members and school officials receiving horrific threats to rape and murder them and their children, burn their houses down and so on.

Calling it bad-faith is too gentle.

You are willfully ignoring what happened. Read the Grand Jury report.

The rape and how it was handled was bad, yes. But the far right also willfully ignored a lot of other aspects of the case that were out of the district's hands and made a lot of wrongful accusations, along with their far-right CRT lies and everything else. And despite the rape, NOTHING warranted those far right loons storming meetings lying and falsely pretending they were district parents, and making horrific threats to rape, torture, burn alive, murder school board members, school officials and their families. That was utterly disgusting, terroristic behavior by the far right and you may not willfully ignore that either.

Do you mean the parents who demanded that the school board take accountability for the rapes, which the board lied and denied happened? And then had the father arrested? Those "terrorists"?

If you pass a rapist around schools, and then call the parents who protest it liars and transphobes, things are going to get heated. In the end, a Grand Jury agreed with the parents, not the school board/your version of events.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think that some parents in nova had legitimate complaints. They felt that one candidate was listening to those complaints. Loudoun was a mess. Don’t oversell to make your arguments.

Bingo. "Overselling" what liberals do. Plus, idiotic hyperbole.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ever since Glenn Youngkin squeaked to victory on a bad-faith platform that exploited suburban fears about public schools, Republicans everywhere have been adopting the playbook. Yell about “parental rights” and attack the phantom CRT menace. Lambast “equity” programs, especially if commitments to those can be juxtaposed against changes to academic programs that are tailored to higher-achieving students like honors classes.

Obviously we all know beyond being a cynical attempt to win elections, the real agenda behind this attack on education is to dumb down the future electorate since poorly educated people tend to vote more conservative. It’s also about trying to redirect taxpayer dollars to fund public schools to for-profit companies that run charter schools and also to religious-based private schools.

In Florida, Ron DeSantis has taken it a bit further and, in the name of protesting “liberal indoctrination” at post-secondary education (something that doesn’t actually exist, like CRT being taught in grade schools, but the dumbed down and frightened electorate doesn’t grasp this) but deliberately doing things like trying to turn a public school into a bastion of right-wing, reactionary education (see what’s happening at the New College).

But this has all gone completely meta now. Even as Republicans complain that the focus on equity in K-12 is resulting in things like honors programs being emphasized, DeSantis (whose policies and rhetoric are copied as much as Youngkin’s) is planning to do with AP courses IN THEIR ENTIRETY in Florida high schools. Because they’re too woke or something.

https://www.tampabay.com/news/education/2023/02/18/4-things-know-about-ron-desantis-idea-slash-ap-courses-florida/

Make it make sense.

Not only that, Youngkin sent out a bat signal and got far right activists from all around the country to converge on NoVA school board meetings pretending to be local parents shrieking about everything and anything including imaginary CRT, resulting in school board members and school officials receiving horrific threats to rape and murder them and their children, burn their houses down and so on.

Calling it bad-faith is too gentle.

You are willfully ignoring what happened. Read the Grand Jury report.

The rape and how it was handled was bad, yes. But the far right also willfully ignored a lot of other aspects of the case that were out of the district's hands and made a lot of wrongful accusations, along with their far-right CRT lies and everything else. And despite the rape, NOTHING warranted those far right loons storming meetings lying and falsely pretending they were district parents, and making horrific threats to rape, torture, burn alive, murder school board members, school officials and their families. That was utterly disgusting, terroristic behavior by the far right and you may not willfully ignore that either.

Please link to all those articles.