TJ Students by FCPS Pyramid 2022-23

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Re: #2 … we would not have accepted the invitation to attend TJ (or likely applied at all) if it was a part time model. It is the fact that TJ is the kid’s school community that makes it work and be positive.

Would you explain this in more detail?

DD is a shy and self conscious kid. By 8th she finally made some friends at her MS (literally had none there for 7th over Covid) but still was very reluctant to try things like clubs or being more vocal in class. She has absolutely blossomed at TJ. It feels like a huge crop of kids that are more similar to her and so as a result she feels comfortable speaking up more, making friends, being active in the school community. And TJ has a ton of school spirit which is fun for the kids to experience.

If she were instead simply shipping out every other day and so split in half between TJ and her base school it would be like 8th grade or worse I think because it would be very hard for her to make and maintain any TJ friends without TJ extracurriculars. Also how would a kid do after school stuff like sports or band, etc that require practice every day immediately after the bell? We would have had zero interest in a part time program as to us the fact that the course work is challenging is only part of what we like about TJ. Honestly what I like the MOST by far about my kid going there is that she feels she’s found her “tribe”, she seems more confident and it feels like a spot that just fits really well re: school community. It’s these soft “feel of the place” reasons that have me deeply grateful she was able to go - regardless of what her course load looks like.

TJ can be over the top. If you just happen to be there for some event people will say “Welcome to TJ” like you’ve booked a room at some luxury hotel, and of course they say the school’s full name repeatedly when a simple “TJ” might suffice.

It’s great that a wider range of county residents can now partake in this theme park silliness and boast about finding their “people” or their “tribe.” Because they’d just be so lost if they had to be surrounded by kids who didn’t get in there.

Go away Debbie Downer. My DS graduated from TJ recently and I completely agree with the PP's description. There are many positive things about TJ aside form academics - anyone can join any club, sport team, band, orchestra etc., great school spirit, no bullying, virtually no worshiping of few athletes, good balance between academic/ECs, 8th period, great teachers, making connections for life etc.

Segregation is great as long as it’s the type that advantages your kid, right?

TJ has long been a cancer on FCPS; now it’s just getting a few more Black, Hispanic or poor kids to make it more palatable.

TJ has been a 'Jewel' of fcps and the school board has been a 'cancer' for the system hampering and attacking the jewel of the system to pander for votes. Disgusting and shameful.

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Re: #2 … we would not have accepted the invitation to attend TJ (or likely applied at all) if it was a part time model. It is the fact that TJ is the kid’s school community that makes it work and be positive.

Would you explain this in more detail?

DD is a shy and self conscious kid. By 8th she finally made some friends at her MS (literally had none there for 7th over Covid) but still was very reluctant to try things like clubs or being more vocal in class. She has absolutely blossomed at TJ. It feels like a huge crop of kids that are more similar to her and so as a result she feels comfortable speaking up more, making friends, being active in the school community. And TJ has a ton of school spirit which is fun for the kids to experience.

If she were instead simply shipping out every other day and so split in half between TJ and her base school it would be like 8th grade or worse I think because it would be very hard for her to make and maintain any TJ friends without TJ extracurriculars. Also how would a kid do after school stuff like sports or band, etc that require practice every day immediately after the bell? We would have had zero interest in a part time program as to us the fact that the course work is challenging is only part of what we like about TJ. Honestly what I like the MOST by far about my kid going there is that she feels she’s found her “tribe”, she seems more confident and it feels like a spot that just fits really well re: school community. It’s these soft “feel of the place” reasons that have me deeply grateful she was able to go - regardless of what her course load looks like.

For Academies of Loudoun, students have the same students in each class so you do get the 'tribe' TJ is a much bigger school giving a larger cohort you can make friends with. I wonder about clubs. You can meet after the bell, but you can only do this every other day. Not itself a problem, except this would mean the other group is not really in the club with you. I think Academies of Loudoun has different numbers in AET and AOS, and they make up for it with having 11th and 12th graders come from the opposite school each day.
The problem I see with TJ clubs is that it would be further away so harder to get involved, though presumably only for parents with the 8th period clubs.

Most of the clubs meet during 8th period. The extracurriculars are after school but there are also many car pools. Most of the far away families like in Loudoun seem to be in car pools.

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Re: #2 … we would not have accepted the invitation to attend TJ (or likely applied at all) if it was a part time model. It is the fact that TJ is the kid’s school community that makes it work and be positive.

Would you explain this in more detail?

DD is a shy and self conscious kid. By 8th she finally made some friends at her MS (literally had none there for 7th over Covid) but still was very reluctant to try things like clubs or being more vocal in class. She has absolutely blossomed at TJ. It feels like a huge crop of kids that are more similar to her and so as a result she feels comfortable speaking up more, making friends, being active in the school community. And TJ has a ton of school spirit which is fun for the kids to experience.

If she were instead simply shipping out every other day and so split in half between TJ and her base school it would be like 8th grade or worse I think because it would be very hard for her to make and maintain any TJ friends without TJ extracurriculars. Also how would a kid do after school stuff like sports or band, etc that require practice every day immediately after the bell? We would have had zero interest in a part time program as to us the fact that the course work is challenging is only part of what we like about TJ. Honestly what I like the MOST by far about my kid going there is that she feels she’s found her “tribe”, she seems more confident and it feels like a spot that just fits really well re: school community. It’s these soft “feel of the place” reasons that have me deeply grateful she was able to go - regardless of what her course load looks like.

TJ can be over the top. If you just happen to be there for some event people will say “Welcome to TJ” like you’ve booked a room at some luxury hotel, and of course they say the school’s full name repeatedly when a simple “TJ” might suffice.

It’s great that a wider range of county residents can now partake in this theme park silliness and boast about finding their “people” or their “tribe.” Because they’d just be so lost if they had to be surrounded by kids who didn’t get in there.

Go away Debbie Downer. My DS graduated from TJ recently and I completely agree with the PP's description. There are many positive things about TJ aside form academics - anyone can join any club, sport team, band, orchestra etc., great school spirit, no bullying, virtually no worshiping of few athletes, good balance between academic/ECs, 8th period, great teachers, making connections for life etc.

Segregation is great as long as it’s the type that advantages your kid, right?

TJ has long been a cancer on FCPS; now it’s just getting a few more Black, Hispanic or poor kids to make it more palatable.

TJ has been a 'Jewel' of fcps and the school board has been a 'cancer' for the system hampering and attacking the jewel of the system to pander for votes. Disgusting and shameful.

Just the opposite is true. The school board attempted to right decades of systemic racial inequality with the gamed admissions where rich families were buying their way in.

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Re: #2 … we would not have accepted the invitation to attend TJ (or likely applied at all) if it was a part time model. It is the fact that TJ is the kid’s school community that makes it work and be positive.

Would you explain this in more detail?

DD is a shy and self conscious kid. By 8th she finally made some friends at her MS (literally had none there for 7th over Covid) but still was very reluctant to try things like clubs or being more vocal in class. She has absolutely blossomed at TJ. It feels like a huge crop of kids that are more similar to her and so as a result she feels comfortable speaking up more, making friends, being active in the school community. And TJ has a ton of school spirit which is fun for the kids to experience.

If she were instead simply shipping out every other day and so split in half between TJ and her base school it would be like 8th grade or worse I think because it would be very hard for her to make and maintain any TJ friends without TJ extracurriculars. Also how would a kid do after school stuff like sports or band, etc that require practice every day immediately after the bell? We would have had zero interest in a part time program as to us the fact that the course work is challenging is only part of what we like about TJ. Honestly what I like the MOST by far about my kid going there is that she feels she’s found her “tribe”, she seems more confident and it feels like a spot that just fits really well re: school community. It’s these soft “feel of the place” reasons that have me deeply grateful she was able to go - regardless of what her course load looks like.

TJ can be over the top. If you just happen to be there for some event people will say “Welcome to TJ” like you’ve booked a room at some luxury hotel, and of course they say the school’s full name repeatedly when a simple “TJ” might suffice.

It’s great that a wider range of county residents can now partake in this theme park silliness and boast about finding their “people” or their “tribe.” Because they’d just be so lost if they had to be surrounded by kids who didn’t get in there.

Go away Debbie Downer. My DS graduated from TJ recently and I completely agree with the PP's description. There are many positive things about TJ aside form academics - anyone can join any club, sport team, band, orchestra etc., great school spirit, no bullying, virtually no worshiping of few athletes, good balance between academic/ECs, 8th period, great teachers, making connections for life etc.

Segregation is great as long as it’s the type that advantages your kid, right?

TJ has long been a cancer on FCPS; now it’s just getting a few more Black, Hispanic or poor kids to make it more palatable.

TJ has been a 'Jewel' of fcps and the school board has been a 'cancer' for the system hampering and attacking the jewel of the system to pander for votes. Disgusting and shameful.

Just the opposite is true. The school board attempted to right decades of systemic racial inequality with the gamed admissions where rich families were buying their way in.

You are sick to refer to racism as the jewel.

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Re: #2 … we would not have accepted the invitation to attend TJ (or likely applied at all) if it was a part time model. It is the fact that TJ is the kid’s school community that makes it work and be positive.

Would you explain this in more detail?

DD is a shy and self conscious kid. By 8th she finally made some friends at her MS (literally had none there for 7th over Covid) but still was very reluctant to try things like clubs or being more vocal in class. She has absolutely blossomed at TJ. It feels like a huge crop of kids that are more similar to her and so as a result she feels comfortable speaking up more, making friends, being active in the school community. And TJ has a ton of school spirit which is fun for the kids to experience.

If she were instead simply shipping out every other day and so split in half between TJ and her base school it would be like 8th grade or worse I think because it would be very hard for her to make and maintain any TJ friends without TJ extracurriculars. Also how would a kid do after school stuff like sports or band, etc that require practice every day immediately after the bell? We would have had zero interest in a part time program as to us the fact that the course work is challenging is only part of what we like about TJ. Honestly what I like the MOST by far about my kid going there is that she feels she’s found her “tribe”, she seems more confident and it feels like a spot that just fits really well re: school community. It’s these soft “feel of the place” reasons that have me deeply grateful she was able to go - regardless of what her course load looks like.

TJ can be over the top. If you just happen to be there for some event people will say “Welcome to TJ” like you’ve booked a room at some luxury hotel, and of course they say the school’s full name repeatedly when a simple “TJ” might suffice.

It’s great that a wider range of county residents can now partake in this theme park silliness and boast about finding their “people” or their “tribe.” Because they’d just be so lost if they had to be surrounded by kids who didn’t get in there.

Go away Debbie Downer. My DS graduated from TJ recently and I completely agree with the PP's description. There are many positive things about TJ aside form academics - anyone can join any club, sport team, band, orchestra etc., great school spirit, no bullying, virtually no worshiping of few athletes, good balance between academic/ECs, 8th period, great teachers, making connections for life etc.

Segregation is great as long as it’s the type that advantages your kid, right?

TJ has long been a cancer on FCPS; now it’s just getting a few more Black, Hispanic or poor kids to make it more palatable.

TJ has been a 'Jewel' of fcps and the school board has been a 'cancer' for the system hampering and attacking the jewel of the system to pander for votes. Disgusting and shameful.

Just the opposite is true. The school board attempted to right decades of systemic racial inequality with the gamed admissions where rich families were buying their way in.

You are sick to refer to racism as the jewel.

TJ is not racist. Both the groups on the extremes of this are not helping their cases or their kids with the language that they used or their dug in rhetoric. Neither side is doing anything that promotes the conversation that needs to be had to promote a healthy environment at TJ or in the County. But I may as well go have a chat with the brick wall next to me because it is more likely to listen. Both sides sound ridiculous and cause people to tune out what they are saying.

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Re: #2 … we would not have accepted the invitation to attend TJ (or likely applied at all) if it was a part time model. It is the fact that TJ is the kid’s school community that makes it work and be positive.

Would you explain this in more detail?

DD is a shy and self conscious kid. By 8th she finally made some friends at her MS (literally had none there for 7th over Covid) but still was very reluctant to try things like clubs or being more vocal in class. She has absolutely blossomed at TJ. It feels like a huge crop of kids that are more similar to her and so as a result she feels comfortable speaking up more, making friends, being active in the school community. And TJ has a ton of school spirit which is fun for the kids to experience.

If she were instead simply shipping out every other day and so split in half between TJ and her base school it would be like 8th grade or worse I think because it would be very hard for her to make and maintain any TJ friends without TJ extracurriculars. Also how would a kid do after school stuff like sports or band, etc that require practice every day immediately after the bell? We would have had zero interest in a part time program as to us the fact that the course work is challenging is only part of what we like about TJ. Honestly what I like the MOST by far about my kid going there is that she feels she’s found her “tribe”, she seems more confident and it feels like a spot that just fits really well re: school community. It’s these soft “feel of the place” reasons that have me deeply grateful she was able to go - regardless of what her course load looks like.

TJ can be over the top. If you just happen to be there for some event people will say “Welcome to TJ” like you’ve booked a room at some luxury hotel, and of course they say the school’s full name repeatedly when a simple “TJ” might suffice.

It’s great that a wider range of county residents can now partake in this theme park silliness and boast about finding their “people” or their “tribe.” Because they’d just be so lost if they had to be surrounded by kids who didn’t get in there.

Go away Debbie Downer. My DS graduated from TJ recently and I completely agree with the PP's description. There are many positive things about TJ aside form academics - anyone can join any club, sport team, band, orchestra etc., great school spirit, no bullying, virtually no worshiping of few athletes, good balance between academic/ECs, 8th period, great teachers, making connections for life etc.

Segregation is great as long as it’s the type that advantages your kid, right?

TJ has long been a cancer on FCPS; now it’s just getting a few more Black, Hispanic or poor kids to make it more palatable.

TJ has been a 'Jewel' of fcps and the school board has been a 'cancer' for the system hampering and attacking the jewel of the system to pander for votes. Disgusting and shameful.

Just the opposite is true. The school board attempted to right decades of systemic racial inequality with the gamed admissions where rich families were buying their way in.

So true, but there are parents who were fine with cheating or doing pretty much whatever it took to get their kids in. They could care less about equal opportunity.

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Re: #2 … we would not have accepted the invitation to attend TJ (or likely applied at all) if it was a part time model. It is the fact that TJ is the kid’s school community that makes it work and be positive.

Would you explain this in more detail?

DD is a shy and self conscious kid. By 8th she finally made some friends at her MS (literally had none there for 7th over Covid) but still was very reluctant to try things like clubs or being more vocal in class. She has absolutely blossomed at TJ. It feels like a huge crop of kids that are more similar to her and so as a result she feels comfortable speaking up more, making friends, being active in the school community. And TJ has a ton of school spirit which is fun for the kids to experience.

If she were instead simply shipping out every other day and so split in half between TJ and her base school it would be like 8th grade or worse I think because it would be very hard for her to make and maintain any TJ friends without TJ extracurriculars. Also how would a kid do after school stuff like sports or band, etc that require practice every day immediately after the bell? We would have had zero interest in a part time program as to us the fact that the course work is challenging is only part of what we like about TJ. Honestly what I like the MOST by far about my kid going there is that she feels she’s found her “tribe”, she seems more confident and it feels like a spot that just fits really well re: school community. It’s these soft “feel of the place” reasons that have me deeply grateful she was able to go - regardless of what her course load looks like.

TJ can be over the top. If you just happen to be there for some event people will say “Welcome to TJ” like you’ve booked a room at some luxury hotel, and of course they say the school’s full name repeatedly when a simple “TJ” might suffice.

It’s great that a wider range of county residents can now partake in this theme park silliness and boast about finding their “people” or their “tribe.” Because they’d just be so lost if they had to be surrounded by kids who didn’t get in there.

Go away Debbie Downer. My DS graduated from TJ recently and I completely agree with the PP's description. There are many positive things about TJ aside form academics - anyone can join any club, sport team, band, orchestra etc., great school spirit, no bullying, virtually no worshiping of few athletes, good balance between academic/ECs, 8th period, great teachers, making connections for life etc.

Segregation is great as long as it’s the type that advantages your kid, right?

TJ has long been a cancer on FCPS; now it’s just getting a few more Black, Hispanic or poor kids to make it more palatable.

TJ has been a 'Jewel' of fcps and the school board has been a 'cancer' for the system hampering and attacking the jewel of the system to pander for votes. Disgusting and shameful.

Just the opposite is true. The school board attempted to right decades of systemic racial inequality with the gamed admissions where rich families were buying their way in.

So true, but there are parents who were fine with cheating or doing pretty much whatever it took to get their kids in. They could care less about equal opportunity.

Those parents are idiots who sabotaged their own kids. It is never advantageous to set your kid up to be in the bottom half or even bottom quarter of TJ. Those kids would have had a better high school experience and better college outcomes in their base school.

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Re: #2 … we would not have accepted the invitation to attend TJ (or likely applied at all) if it was a part time model. It is the fact that TJ is the kid’s school community that makes it work and be positive.

Would you explain this in more detail?

DD is a shy and self conscious kid. By 8th she finally made some friends at her MS (literally had none there for 7th over Covid) but still was very reluctant to try things like clubs or being more vocal in class. She has absolutely blossomed at TJ. It feels like a huge crop of kids that are more similar to her and so as a result she feels comfortable speaking up more, making friends, being active in the school community. And TJ has a ton of school spirit which is fun for the kids to experience.

If she were instead simply shipping out every other day and so split in half between TJ and her base school it would be like 8th grade or worse I think because it would be very hard for her to make and maintain any TJ friends without TJ extracurriculars. Also how would a kid do after school stuff like sports or band, etc that require practice every day immediately after the bell? We would have had zero interest in a part time program as to us the fact that the course work is challenging is only part of what we like about TJ. Honestly what I like the MOST by far about my kid going there is that she feels she’s found her “tribe”, she seems more confident and it feels like a spot that just fits really well re: school community. It’s these soft “feel of the place” reasons that have me deeply grateful she was able to go - regardless of what her course load looks like.

TJ can be over the top. If you just happen to be there for some event people will say “Welcome to TJ” like you’ve booked a room at some luxury hotel, and of course they say the school’s full name repeatedly when a simple “TJ” might suffice.

It’s great that a wider range of county residents can now partake in this theme park silliness and boast about finding their “people” or their “tribe.” Because they’d just be so lost if they had to be surrounded by kids who didn’t get in there.

Go away Debbie Downer. My DS graduated from TJ recently and I completely agree with the PP's description. There are many positive things about TJ aside form academics - anyone can join any club, sport team, band, orchestra etc., great school spirit, no bullying, virtually no worshiping of few athletes, good balance between academic/ECs, 8th period, great teachers, making connections for life etc.

Segregation is great as long as it’s the type that advantages your kid, right?

TJ has long been a cancer on FCPS; now it’s just getting a few more Black, Hispanic or poor kids to make it more palatable.

TJ has been a 'Jewel' of fcps and the school board has been a 'cancer' for the system hampering and attacking the jewel of the system to pander for votes. Disgusting and shameful.

Just the opposite is true. The school board attempted to right decades of systemic racial inequality with the gamed admissions where rich families were buying their way in.

So true, but there are parents who were fine with cheating or doing pretty much whatever it took to get their kids in. They could care less about equal opportunity.

Those parents are idiots who sabotaged their own kids. It is never advantageous to set your kid up to be in the bottom half or even bottom quarter of TJ. Those kids would have had a better high school experience and better college outcomes in their base school.

I know - only the qualified students should be admitted and not the students who need affirmative action boost to get into TJ. This increased unqualified students will make the school toxic and poisonous. Shame.

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Re: #2 … we would not have accepted the invitation to attend TJ (or likely applied at all) if it was a part time model. It is the fact that TJ is the kid’s school community that makes it work and be positive.

Would you explain this in more detail?

DD is a shy and self conscious kid. By 8th she finally made some friends at her MS (literally had none there for 7th over Covid) but still was very reluctant to try things like clubs or being more vocal in class. She has absolutely blossomed at TJ. It feels like a huge crop of kids that are more similar to her and so as a result she feels comfortable speaking up more, making friends, being active in the school community. And TJ has a ton of school spirit which is fun for the kids to experience.

If she were instead simply shipping out every other day and so split in half between TJ and her base school it would be like 8th grade or worse I think because it would be very hard for her to make and maintain any TJ friends without TJ extracurriculars. Also how would a kid do after school stuff like sports or band, etc that require practice every day immediately after the bell? We would have had zero interest in a part time program as to us the fact that the course work is challenging is only part of what we like about TJ. Honestly what I like the MOST by far about my kid going there is that she feels she’s found her “tribe”, she seems more confident and it feels like a spot that just fits really well re: school community. It’s these soft “feel of the place” reasons that have me deeply grateful she was able to go - regardless of what her course load looks like.

TJ can be over the top. If you just happen to be there for some event people will say “Welcome to TJ” like you’ve booked a room at some luxury hotel, and of course they say the school’s full name repeatedly when a simple “TJ” might suffice.

It’s great that a wider range of county residents can now partake in this theme park silliness and boast about finding their “people” or their “tribe.” Because they’d just be so lost if they had to be surrounded by kids who didn’t get in there.

Go away Debbie Downer. My DS graduated from TJ recently and I completely agree with the PP's description. There are many positive things about TJ aside form academics - anyone can join any club, sport team, band, orchestra etc., great school spirit, no bullying, virtually no worshiping of few athletes, good balance between academic/ECs, 8th period, great teachers, making connections for life etc.

Segregation is great as long as it’s the type that advantages your kid, right?

TJ has long been a cancer on FCPS; now it’s just getting a few more Black, Hispanic or poor kids to make it more palatable.

TJ has been a 'Jewel' of fcps and the school board has been a 'cancer' for the system hampering and attacking the jewel of the system to pander for votes. Disgusting and shameful.

Just the opposite is true. The school board attempted to right decades of systemic racial inequality with the gamed admissions where rich families were buying their way in.

So true, but there are parents who were fine with cheating or doing pretty much whatever it took to get their kids in. They could care less about equal opportunity.

Those parents are idiots who sabotaged their own kids. It is never advantageous to set your kid up to be in the bottom half or even bottom quarter of TJ. Those kids would have had a better high school experience and better college outcomes in their base school.

So the kids who cheated to get in will stop cheating once they are in?

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Re: #2 … we would not have accepted the invitation to attend TJ (or likely applied at all) if it was a part time model. It is the fact that TJ is the kid’s school community that makes it work and be positive.

Would you explain this in more detail?

DD is a shy and self conscious kid. By 8th she finally made some friends at her MS (literally had none there for 7th over Covid) but still was very reluctant to try things like clubs or being more vocal in class. She has absolutely blossomed at TJ. It feels like a huge crop of kids that are more similar to her and so as a result she feels comfortable speaking up more, making friends, being active in the school community. And TJ has a ton of school spirit which is fun for the kids to experience.

If she were instead simply shipping out every other day and so split in half between TJ and her base school it would be like 8th grade or worse I think because it would be very hard for her to make and maintain any TJ friends without TJ extracurriculars. Also how would a kid do after school stuff like sports or band, etc that require practice every day immediately after the bell? We would have had zero interest in a part time program as to us the fact that the course work is challenging is only part of what we like about TJ. Honestly what I like the MOST by far about my kid going there is that she feels she’s found her “tribe”, she seems more confident and it feels like a spot that just fits really well re: school community. It’s these soft “feel of the place” reasons that have me deeply grateful she was able to go - regardless of what her course load looks like.

TJ can be over the top. If you just happen to be there for some event people will say “Welcome to TJ” like you’ve booked a room at some luxury hotel, and of course they say the school’s full name repeatedly when a simple “TJ” might suffice.

It’s great that a wider range of county residents can now partake in this theme park silliness and boast about finding their “people” or their “tribe.” Because they’d just be so lost if they had to be surrounded by kids who didn’t get in there.

Go away Debbie Downer. My DS graduated from TJ recently and I completely agree with the PP's description. There are many positive things about TJ aside form academics - anyone can join any club, sport team, band, orchestra etc., great school spirit, no bullying, virtually no worshiping of few athletes, good balance between academic/ECs, 8th period, great teachers, making connections for life etc.

Segregation is great as long as it’s the type that advantages your kid, right?

TJ has long been a cancer on FCPS; now it’s just getting a few more Black, Hispanic or poor kids to make it more palatable.

TJ has been a 'Jewel' of fcps and the school board has been a 'cancer' for the system hampering and attacking the jewel of the system to pander for votes. Disgusting and shameful.

Just the opposite is true. The school board attempted to right decades of systemic racial inequality with the gamed admissions where rich families were buying their way in.

False. The School Board attempted to demonstrate their virtue by tinkering with the admissions process at a single school, while leaving disparities elsewhere unaddressed.

So now TJ is like 12% low-income vs. 2%. Slow clap.

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Re: #2 … we would not have accepted the invitation to attend TJ (or likely applied at all) if it was a part time model. It is the fact that TJ is the kid’s school community that makes it work and be positive.

Would you explain this in more detail?

DD is a shy and self conscious kid. By 8th she finally made some friends at her MS (literally had none there for 7th over Covid) but still was very reluctant to try things like clubs or being more vocal in class. She has absolutely blossomed at TJ. It feels like a huge crop of kids that are more similar to her and so as a result she feels comfortable speaking up more, making friends, being active in the school community. And TJ has a ton of school spirit which is fun for the kids to experience.

If she were instead simply shipping out every other day and so split in half between TJ and her base school it would be like 8th grade or worse I think because it would be very hard for her to make and maintain any TJ friends without TJ extracurriculars. Also how would a kid do after school stuff like sports or band, etc that require practice every day immediately after the bell? We would have had zero interest in a part time program as to us the fact that the course work is challenging is only part of what we like about TJ. Honestly what I like the MOST by far about my kid going there is that she feels she’s found her “tribe”, she seems more confident and it feels like a spot that just fits really well re: school community. It’s these soft “feel of the place” reasons that have me deeply grateful she was able to go - regardless of what her course load looks like.

TJ can be over the top. If you just happen to be there for some event people will say “Welcome to TJ” like you’ve booked a room at some luxury hotel, and of course they say the school’s full name repeatedly when a simple “TJ” might suffice.

It’s great that a wider range of county residents can now partake in this theme park silliness and boast about finding their “people” or their “tribe.” Because they’d just be so lost if they had to be surrounded by kids who didn’t get in there.

Go away Debbie Downer. My DS graduated from TJ recently and I completely agree with the PP's description. There are many positive things about TJ aside form academics - anyone can join any club, sport team, band, orchestra etc., great school spirit, no bullying, virtually no worshiping of few athletes, good balance between academic/ECs, 8th period, great teachers, making connections for life etc.

Segregation is great as long as it’s the type that advantages your kid, right?

TJ has long been a cancer on FCPS; now it’s just getting a few more Black, Hispanic or poor kids to make it more palatable.

TJ has been a 'Jewel' of fcps and the school board has been a 'cancer' for the system hampering and attacking the jewel of the system to pander for votes. Disgusting and shameful.

Just the opposite is true. The school board attempted to right decades of systemic racial inequality with the gamed admissions where rich families were buying their way in.

That sounds like Langley not TJ. What has the School Board done to address the skewed demographics there? Answer - nothing!

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Re: #2 … we would not have accepted the invitation to attend TJ (or likely applied at all) if it was a part time model. It is the fact that TJ is the kid’s school community that makes it work and be positive.

Would you explain this in more detail?

DD is a shy and self conscious kid. By 8th she finally made some friends at her MS (literally had none there for 7th over Covid) but still was very reluctant to try things like clubs or being more vocal in class. She has absolutely blossomed at TJ. It feels like a huge crop of kids that are more similar to her and so as a result she feels comfortable speaking up more, making friends, being active in the school community. And TJ has a ton of school spirit which is fun for the kids to experience.

If she were instead simply shipping out every other day and so split in half between TJ and her base school it would be like 8th grade or worse I think because it would be very hard for her to make and maintain any TJ friends without TJ extracurriculars. Also how would a kid do after school stuff like sports or band, etc that require practice every day immediately after the bell? We would have had zero interest in a part time program as to us the fact that the course work is challenging is only part of what we like about TJ. Honestly what I like the MOST by far about my kid going there is that she feels she’s found her “tribe”, she seems more confident and it feels like a spot that just fits really well re: school community. It’s these soft “feel of the place” reasons that have me deeply grateful she was able to go - regardless of what her course load looks like.

TJ can be over the top. If you just happen to be there for some event people will say “Welcome to TJ” like you’ve booked a room at some luxury hotel, and of course they say the school’s full name repeatedly when a simple “TJ” might suffice.

It’s great that a wider range of county residents can now partake in this theme park silliness and boast about finding their “people” or their “tribe.” Because they’d just be so lost if they had to be surrounded by kids who didn’t get in there.

Go away Debbie Downer. My DS graduated from TJ recently and I completely agree with the PP's description. There are many positive things about TJ aside form academics - anyone can join any club, sport team, band, orchestra etc., great school spirit, no bullying, virtually no worshiping of few athletes, good balance between academic/ECs, 8th period, great teachers, making connections for life etc.

Segregation is great as long as it’s the type that advantages your kid, right?

TJ has long been a cancer on FCPS; now it’s just getting a few more Black, Hispanic or poor kids to make it more palatable.

TJ has been a 'Jewel' of fcps and the school board has been a 'cancer' for the system hampering and attacking the jewel of the system to pander for votes. Disgusting and shameful.

Just the opposite is true. The school board attempted to right decades of systemic racial inequality with the gamed admissions where rich families were buying their way in.

So true, but there are parents who were fine with cheating or doing pretty much whatever it took to get their kids in. They could care less about equal opportunity.

Those parents are idiots who sabotaged their own kids. It is never advantageous to set your kid up to be in the bottom half or even bottom quarter of TJ. Those kids would have had a better high school experience and better college outcomes in their base school.

So the kids who cheated to get in will stop cheating once they are in?

I hear there is significant cheating among the newer students who were admitted under the new admissions system since they are not prepared for the rigor of TJ. Sad.

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Re: #2 … we would not have accepted the invitation to attend TJ (or likely applied at all) if it was a part time model. It is the fact that TJ is the kid’s school community that makes it work and be positive.

Would you explain this in more detail?

DD is a shy and self conscious kid. By 8th she finally made some friends at her MS (literally had none there for 7th over Covid) but still was very reluctant to try things like clubs or being more vocal in class. She has absolutely blossomed at TJ. It feels like a huge crop of kids that are more similar to her and so as a result she feels comfortable speaking up more, making friends, being active in the school community. And TJ has a ton of school spirit which is fun for the kids to experience.

If she were instead simply shipping out every other day and so split in half between TJ and her base school it would be like 8th grade or worse I think because it would be very hard for her to make and maintain any TJ friends without TJ extracurriculars. Also how would a kid do after school stuff like sports or band, etc that require practice every day immediately after the bell? We would have had zero interest in a part time program as to us the fact that the course work is challenging is only part of what we like about TJ. Honestly what I like the MOST by far about my kid going there is that she feels she’s found her “tribe”, she seems more confident and it feels like a spot that just fits really well re: school community. It’s these soft “feel of the place” reasons that have me deeply grateful she was able to go - regardless of what her course load looks like.

TJ can be over the top. If you just happen to be there for some event people will say “Welcome to TJ” like you’ve booked a room at some luxury hotel, and of course they say the school’s full name repeatedly when a simple “TJ” might suffice.

It’s great that a wider range of county residents can now partake in this theme park silliness and boast about finding their “people” or their “tribe.” Because they’d just be so lost if they had to be surrounded by kids who didn’t get in there.

Go away Debbie Downer. My DS graduated from TJ recently and I completely agree with the PP's description. There are many positive things about TJ aside form academics - anyone can join any club, sport team, band, orchestra etc., great school spirit, no bullying, virtually no worshiping of few athletes, good balance between academic/ECs, 8th period, great teachers, making connections for life etc.

Segregation is great as long as it’s the type that advantages your kid, right?

TJ has long been a cancer on FCPS; now it’s just getting a few more Black, Hispanic or poor kids to make it more palatable.

TJ has been a 'Jewel' of fcps and the school board has been a 'cancer' for the system hampering and attacking the jewel of the system to pander for votes. Disgusting and shameful.

Just the opposite is true. The school board attempted to right decades of systemic racial inequality with the gamed admissions where rich families were buying their way in.

So true, but there are parents who were fine with cheating or doing pretty much whatever it took to get their kids in. They could care less about equal opportunity.

Those parents are idiots who sabotaged their own kids. It is never advantageous to set your kid up to be in the bottom half or even bottom quarter of TJ. Those kids would have had a better high school experience and better college outcomes in their base school.

So the kids who cheated to get in will stop cheating once they are in?

I hear there is significant cheating among the newer students who were admitted under the new admissions system since they are not prepared for the rigor of TJ. Sad.

You heard wrong. So many of the applicants in the old system had to cheat just to get in that it was common place, but with the new system it's rare since the students are more naturally gifted.

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Re: #2 … we would not have accepted the invitation to attend TJ (or likely applied at all) if it was a part time model. It is the fact that TJ is the kid’s school community that makes it work and be positive.

Would you explain this in more detail?

DD is a shy and self conscious kid. By 8th she finally made some friends at her MS (literally had none there for 7th over Covid) but still was very reluctant to try things like clubs or being more vocal in class. She has absolutely blossomed at TJ. It feels like a huge crop of kids that are more similar to her and so as a result she feels comfortable speaking up more, making friends, being active in the school community. And TJ has a ton of school spirit which is fun for the kids to experience.

If she were instead simply shipping out every other day and so split in half between TJ and her base school it would be like 8th grade or worse I think because it would be very hard for her to make and maintain any TJ friends without TJ extracurriculars. Also how would a kid do after school stuff like sports or band, etc that require practice every day immediately after the bell? We would have had zero interest in a part time program as to us the fact that the course work is challenging is only part of what we like about TJ. Honestly what I like the MOST by far about my kid going there is that she feels she’s found her “tribe”, she seems more confident and it feels like a spot that just fits really well re: school community. It’s these soft “feel of the place” reasons that have me deeply grateful she was able to go - regardless of what her course load looks like.

TJ can be over the top. If you just happen to be there for some event people will say “Welcome to TJ” like you’ve booked a room at some luxury hotel, and of course they say the school’s full name repeatedly when a simple “TJ” might suffice.

It’s great that a wider range of county residents can now partake in this theme park silliness and boast about finding their “people” or their “tribe.” Because they’d just be so lost if they had to be surrounded by kids who didn’t get in there.

Go away Debbie Downer. My DS graduated from TJ recently and I completely agree with the PP's description. There are many positive things about TJ aside form academics - anyone can join any club, sport team, band, orchestra etc., great school spirit, no bullying, virtually no worshiping of few athletes, good balance between academic/ECs, 8th period, great teachers, making connections for life etc.

Segregation is great as long as it’s the type that advantages your kid, right?

TJ has long been a cancer on FCPS; now it’s just getting a few more Black, Hispanic or poor kids to make it more palatable.

TJ has been a 'Jewel' of fcps and the school board has been a 'cancer' for the system hampering and attacking the jewel of the system to pander for votes. Disgusting and shameful.

Just the opposite is true. The school board attempted to right decades of systemic racial inequality with the gamed admissions where rich families were buying their way in.

So true, but there are parents who were fine with cheating or doing pretty much whatever it took to get their kids in. They could care less about equal opportunity.

Those parents are idiots who sabotaged their own kids. It is never advantageous to set your kid up to be in the bottom half or even bottom quarter of TJ. Those kids would have had a better high school experience and better college outcomes in their base school.

True, but with the new system they only take very top kids from each school. Many of those kids who struggled were third rate preppers who couldn't cut it once they were in. The newer students may not have had as much outside enrichment but seem to pick things up more quickly and are more resilient.

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Re: #2 … we would not have accepted the invitation to attend TJ (or likely applied at all) if it was a part time model. It is the fact that TJ is the kid’s school community that makes it work and be positive.

Would you explain this in more detail?

DD is a shy and self conscious kid. By 8th she finally made some friends at her MS (literally had none there for 7th over Covid) but still was very reluctant to try things like clubs or being more vocal in class. She has absolutely blossomed at TJ. It feels like a huge crop of kids that are more similar to her and so as a result she feels comfortable speaking up more, making friends, being active in the school community. And TJ has a ton of school spirit which is fun for the kids to experience.

If she were instead simply shipping out every other day and so split in half between TJ and her base school it would be like 8th grade or worse I think because it would be very hard for her to make and maintain any TJ friends without TJ extracurriculars. Also how would a kid do after school stuff like sports or band, etc that require practice every day immediately after the bell? We would have had zero interest in a part time program as to us the fact that the course work is challenging is only part of what we like about TJ. Honestly what I like the MOST by far about my kid going there is that she feels she’s found her “tribe”, she seems more confident and it feels like a spot that just fits really well re: school community. It’s these soft “feel of the place” reasons that have me deeply grateful she was able to go - regardless of what her course load looks like.

TJ can be over the top. If you just happen to be there for some event people will say “Welcome to TJ” like you’ve booked a room at some luxury hotel, and of course they say the school’s full name repeatedly when a simple “TJ” might suffice.

It’s great that a wider range of county residents can now partake in this theme park silliness and boast about finding their “people” or their “tribe.” Because they’d just be so lost if they had to be surrounded by kids who didn’t get in there.

Go away Debbie Downer. My DS graduated from TJ recently and I completely agree with the PP's description. There are many positive things about TJ aside form academics - anyone can join any club, sport team, band, orchestra etc., great school spirit, no bullying, virtually no worshiping of few athletes, good balance between academic/ECs, 8th period, great teachers, making connections for life etc.

Segregation is great as long as it’s the type that advantages your kid, right?

TJ has long been a cancer on FCPS; now it’s just getting a few more Black, Hispanic or poor kids to make it more palatable.

TJ has been a 'Jewel' of fcps and the school board has been a 'cancer' for the system hampering and attacking the jewel of the system to pander for votes. Disgusting and shameful.

Just the opposite is true. The school board attempted to right decades of systemic racial inequality with the gamed admissions where rich families were buying their way in.

So true, but there are parents who were fine with cheating or doing pretty much whatever it took to get their kids in. They could care less about equal opportunity.

Those parents are idiots who sabotaged their own kids. It is never advantageous to set your kid up to be in the bottom half or even bottom quarter of TJ. Those kids would have had a better high school experience and better college outcomes in their base school.

So the kids who cheated to get in will stop cheating once they are in?

I hear there is significant cheating among the newer students who were admitted under the new admissions system since they are not prepared for the rigor of TJ. Sad.

You heard wrong. So many of the applicants in the old system had to cheat just to get in that it was common place, but with the new system it's rare since the students are more naturally gifted.

DP, but it's become clear you use the phrase "naturally gifted" to basically mean unburdened by any type of serious preparation.

They really should just change the name to "Thomas Jefferson High School for the Random Distribution of Some Potential."