Teen killed by drunk teen in car accident- Arlington

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Anonymous wrote:Did they explain how he died “instantly”? Was he wearing a seatbelt?

If we are talking safety that’s a big one.

There is an article on the Channel 5 news page that includes pictures of both vehicles. I don’t want to link to it because the images are pretty upsetting. But based on those pictures, a seatbelt was not the determining factor. Alcohol, speed and utter recklessness were.

Sounds like he was trying to make a u-turn on Old Dominion. Yikes. Hopefully not where they put up those new bollards because of frequent accidents.

You literally cant make a U turn where you describe anymore due to the barriers. It was at old Dominion and Williamsburg one block down. Flowers are at the intersection.

You can make a (dangerous) u-turn there. I’ve seen people do it to make the left.

Was the SUV approaching on Old Dominion or on Williamsburg?

I wonder why they think he was making a u-turn vs. just turning.

Probably to drop off his girlfiend and to turn around and head back home which I assume is back away from McLean since he went to W&L.

Just seems like a bad spot to make a u-turn.

Stop it! You and the seatbelt poster are disgusting. A family lost their teen. The ONLY one at fault is the drunk driver. Stop it.

+1

Obviously, we don’t want teens drinking under the influence or speeding through neighborhoods. No question. #1 lesson here.

But there are also other lessons: encourage teens to be extra cautious at night (or maybe not drive at night), wear their seatbelts, don’t make u-turns on that road, and don’t drive in small sedans.

I’m not assigning blame but looking for ways to keep my own teen safe when they start driving in a few months.

Don’t drive in small sedans!? Are you serious?

+1000 what ridiculousness.

Teach your kids to make strong driving choices. Model good behavior. Don't use your phone, even for hands free calls if you can. Don't do stupid driving moves so you don't miss your exit/turn. Pull over if you need to figure out directions. Teaching your kids to be conscientious drivers starts with you.

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Anonymous wrote:Did they explain how he died “instantly”? Was he wearing a seatbelt?

If we are talking safety that’s a big one.

There is an article on the Channel 5 news page that includes pictures of both vehicles. I don’t want to link to it because the images are pretty upsetting. But based on those pictures, a seatbelt was not the determining factor. Alcohol, speed and utter recklessness were.

Sounds like he was trying to make a u-turn on Old Dominion. Yikes. Hopefully not where they put up those new bollards because of frequent accidents.

You literally cant make a U turn where you describe anymore due to the barriers. It was at old Dominion and Williamsburg one block down. Flowers are at the intersection.

You can make a (dangerous) u-turn there. I’ve seen people do it to make the left.

Was the SUV approaching on Old Dominion or on Williamsburg?

I wonder why they think he was making a u-turn vs. just turning.

Probably to drop off his girlfiend and to turn around and head back home which I assume is back away from McLean since he went to W&L.

Just seems like a bad spot to make a u-turn.

Stop it! You and the seatbelt poster are disgusting. A family lost their teen. The ONLY one at fault is the drunk driver. Stop it.

+1

Obviously, we don’t want teens drinking under the influence or speeding through neighborhoods. No question. #1 lesson here.

But there are also other lessons: encourage teens to be extra cautious at night (or maybe not drive at night), wear their seatbelts, don’t make u-turns on that road, and don’t drive in small sedans.

I’m not assigning blame but looking for ways to keep my own teen safe when they start driving in a few months.

Don’t drive in small sedans!? Are you serious?

+1000 what ridiculousness.

Teach your kids to make strong driving choices. Model good behavior. Don't use your phone, even for hands free calls if you can. Don't do stupid driving moves so you don't miss your exit/turn. Pull over if you need to figure out directions. Teaching your kids to be conscientious drivers starts with you.

Yes, this. PPs privilege is showing with the sedan nonsense!!

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Anonymous wrote:Did they explain how he died “instantly”? Was he wearing a seatbelt?

If we are talking safety that’s a big one.

There is an article on the Channel 5 news page that includes pictures of both vehicles. I don’t want to link to it because the images are pretty upsetting. But based on those pictures, a seatbelt was not the determining factor. Alcohol, speed and utter recklessness were.

Sounds like he was trying to make a u-turn on Old Dominion. Yikes. Hopefully not where they put up those new bollards because of frequent accidents.

You literally cant make a U turn where you describe anymore due to the barriers. It was at old Dominion and Williamsburg one block down. Flowers are at the intersection.

You can make a (dangerous) u-turn there. I’ve seen people do it to make the left.

Was the SUV approaching on Old Dominion or on Williamsburg?

I wonder why they think he was making a u-turn vs. just turning.

Probably to drop off his girlfiend and to turn around and head back home which I assume is back away from McLean since he went to W&L.

Just seems like a bad spot to make a u-turn.

Stop it! You and the seatbelt poster are disgusting. A family lost their teen. The ONLY one at fault is the drunk driver. Stop it.

+1

Obviously, we don’t want teens drinking under the influence or speeding through neighborhoods. No question. #1 lesson here.

But there are also other lessons: encourage teens to be extra cautious at night (or maybe not drive at night), wear their seatbelts, don’t make u-turns on that road, and don’t drive in small sedans.

I’m not assigning blame but looking for ways to keep my own teen safe when they start driving in a few months.

Don’t drive in small sedans!? Are you serious?

+1000 what ridiculousness.

Teach your kids to make strong driving choices. Model good behavior. Don't use your phone, even for hands free calls if you can. Don't do stupid driving moves so you don't miss your exit/turn. Pull over if you need to figure out directions. Teaching your kids to be conscientious drivers starts with you.

Obviously those things as well.

But small sedans don’t offer much protection against cars/trucks with a lot more mass.

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Anonymous wrote:Did they explain how he died “instantly”? Was he wearing a seatbelt?

If we are talking safety that’s a big one.

There is an article on the Channel 5 news page that includes pictures of both vehicles. I don’t want to link to it because the images are pretty upsetting. But based on those pictures, a seatbelt was not the determining factor. Alcohol, speed and utter recklessness were.

Sounds like he was trying to make a u-turn on Old Dominion. Yikes. Hopefully not where they put up those new bollards because of frequent accidents.

You literally cant make a U turn where you describe anymore due to the barriers. It was at old Dominion and Williamsburg one block down. Flowers are at the intersection.

You can make a (dangerous) u-turn there. I’ve seen people do it to make the left.

Was the SUV approaching on Old Dominion or on Williamsburg?

I wonder why they think he was making a u-turn vs. just turning.

Probably to drop off his girlfiend and to turn around and head back home which I assume is back away from McLean since he went to W&L.

Just seems like a bad spot to make a u-turn.

Stop it! You and the seatbelt poster are disgusting. A family lost their teen. The ONLY one at fault is the drunk driver. Stop it.

+1

Obviously, we don’t want teens drinking under the influence or speeding through neighborhoods. No question. #1 lesson here.

But there are also other lessons: encourage teens to be extra cautious at night (or maybe not drive at night), wear their seatbelts, don’t make u-turns on that road, and don’t drive in small sedans.

I’m not assigning blame but looking for ways to keep my own teen safe when they start driving in a few months.

Uh WTF is this? SUVs are the most dangerous even though you selfish fools think they make you safer. They are worse for you and everyone around you, even if you don't think about how they destroy the environment.

It’s just physics. Don’t take it personally.

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Anonymous wrote:Did they explain how he died “instantly”? Was he wearing a seatbelt?

If we are talking safety that’s a big one.

There is an article on the Channel 5 news page that includes pictures of both vehicles. I don’t want to link to it because the images are pretty upsetting. But based on those pictures, a seatbelt was not the determining factor. Alcohol, speed and utter recklessness were.

Sounds like he was trying to make a u-turn on Old Dominion. Yikes. Hopefully not where they put up those new bollards because of frequent accidents.

You literally cant make a U turn where you describe anymore due to the barriers. It was at old Dominion and Williamsburg one block down. Flowers are at the intersection.

Trying to keep your kid safe has nothing to do with victim blaming.
You can make a (dangerous) u-turn there. I’ve seen people do it to make the left.

Was the SUV approaching on Old Dominion or on Williamsburg?

I wonder why they think he was making a u-turn vs. just turning.

Probably to drop off his girlfiend and to turn around and head back home which I assume is back away from McLean since he went to W&L.

Just seems like a bad spot to make a u-turn.

Stop it! You and the seatbelt poster are disgusting. A family lost their teen. The ONLY one at fault is the drunk driver. Stop it.

+1

Obviously, we don’t want teens drinking under the influence or speeding through neighborhoods. No question. #1 lesson here.

But there are also other lessons: encourage teens to be extra cautious at night (or maybe not drive at night), wear their seatbelts, don’t make u-turns on that road, and don’t drive in small sedans.

I’m not assigning blame but looking for ways to keep my own teen safe when they start driving in a few months.

Teens under the age of 18 in VA are not allowed to drive between midnight-4AM.

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Anonymous wrote:Did they explain how he died “instantly”? Was he wearing a seatbelt?

If we are talking safety that’s a big one.

There is an article on the Channel 5 news page that includes pictures of both vehicles. I don’t want to link to it because the images are pretty upsetting. But based on those pictures, a seatbelt was not the determining factor. Alcohol, speed and utter recklessness were.

Sounds like he was trying to make a u-turn on Old Dominion. Yikes. Hopefully not where they put up those new bollards because of frequent accidents.

You literally cant make a U turn where you describe anymore due to the barriers. It was at old Dominion and Williamsburg one block down. Flowers are at the intersection.

Trying to keep your kid safe has nothing to do with victim blaming.
You can make a (dangerous) u-turn there. I’ve seen people do it to make the left.

Was the SUV approaching on Old Dominion or on Williamsburg?

I wonder why they think he was making a u-turn vs. just turning.

Probably to drop off his girlfiend and to turn around and head back home which I assume is back away from McLean since he went to W&L.

Just seems like a bad spot to make a u-turn.

Stop it! You and the seatbelt poster are disgusting. A family lost their teen. The ONLY one at fault is the drunk driver. Stop it.

+1

Obviously, we don’t want teens drinking under the influence or speeding through neighborhoods. No question. #1 lesson here.

But there are also other lessons: encourage teens to be extra cautious at night (or maybe not drive at night), wear their seatbelts, don’t make u-turns on that road, and don’t drive in small sedans.

I’m not assigning blame but looking for ways to keep my own teen safe when they start driving in a few months.

Teens under the age of 18 in VA are not allowed to drive between midnight-4AM.

Does that absolve the drunk driver?

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Anonymous wrote:Did they explain how he died “instantly”? Was he wearing a seatbelt?

If we are talking safety that’s a big one.

There is an article on the Channel 5 news page that includes pictures of both vehicles. I don’t want to link to it because the images are pretty upsetting. But based on those pictures, a seatbelt was not the determining factor. Alcohol, speed and utter recklessness were.

Sounds like he was trying to make a u-turn on Old Dominion. Yikes. Hopefully not where they put up those new bollards because of frequent accidents.

You literally cant make a U turn where you describe anymore due to the barriers. It was at old Dominion and Williamsburg one block down. Flowers are at the intersection.

You can make a (dangerous) u-turn there. I’ve seen people do it to make the left.

Was the SUV approaching on Old Dominion or on Williamsburg?

I wonder why they think he was making a u-turn vs. just turning.

Probably to drop off his girlfiend and to turn around and head back home which I assume is back away from McLean since he went to W&L.

Just seems like a bad spot to make a u-turn.

Stop it! You and the seatbelt poster are disgusting. A family lost their teen. The ONLY one at fault is the drunk driver. Stop it.

+1

Obviously, we don’t want teens drinking under the influence or speeding through neighborhoods. No question. #1 lesson here.

But there are also other lessons: encourage teens to be extra cautious at night (or maybe not drive at night), wear their seatbelts, don’t make u-turns on that road, and don’t drive in small sedans.

I’m not assigning blame but looking for ways to keep my own teen safe when they start driving in a few months.

Don’t drive in small sedans!? Are you serious?

Not PP, but yes, they will always lose against a bigger car. The SUV occupants walked away.

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Anonymous wrote:Did they explain how he died “instantly”? Was he wearing a seatbelt?

If we are talking safety that’s a big one.

There is an article on the Channel 5 news page that includes pictures of both vehicles. I don’t want to link to it because the images are pretty upsetting. But based on those pictures, a seatbelt was not the determining factor. Alcohol, speed and utter recklessness were.

Sounds like he was trying to make a u-turn on Old Dominion. Yikes. Hopefully not where they put up those new bollards because of frequent accidents.

You literally cant make a U turn where you describe anymore due to the barriers. It was at old Dominion and Williamsburg one block down. Flowers are at the intersection.

Trying to keep your kid safe has nothing to do with victim blaming.
You can make a (dangerous) u-turn there. I’ve seen people do it to make the left.

Was the SUV approaching on Old Dominion or on Williamsburg?

I wonder why they think he was making a u-turn vs. just turning.

Probably to drop off his girlfiend and to turn around and head back home which I assume is back away from McLean since he went to W&L.

Just seems like a bad spot to make a u-turn.

Stop it! You and the seatbelt poster are disgusting. A family lost their teen. The ONLY one at fault is the drunk driver. Stop it.

+1

Obviously, we don’t want teens drinking under the influence or speeding through neighborhoods. No question. #1 lesson here.

But there are also other lessons: encourage teens to be extra cautious at night (or maybe not drive at night), wear their seatbelts, don’t make u-turns on that road, and don’t drive in small sedans.

I’m not assigning blame but looking for ways to keep my own teen safe when they start driving in a few months.

Teens under the age of 18 in VA are not allowed to drive between midnight-4AM.

Does that absolve the drunk driver?

Nope, just another charge for the perp.

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Anonymous wrote:Did they explain how he died “instantly”? Was he wearing a seatbelt?

If we are talking safety that’s a big one.

There is an article on the Channel 5 news page that includes pictures of both vehicles. I don’t want to link to it because the images are pretty upsetting. But based on those pictures, a seatbelt was not the determining factor. Alcohol, speed and utter recklessness were.

Sounds like he was trying to make a u-turn on Old Dominion. Yikes. Hopefully not where they put up those new bollards because of frequent accidents.

You literally cant make a U turn where you describe anymore due to the barriers. It was at old Dominion and Williamsburg one block down. Flowers are at the intersection.

You can make a (dangerous) u-turn there. I’ve seen people do it to make the left.

Was the SUV approaching on Old Dominion or on Williamsburg?

I wonder why they think he was making a u-turn vs. just turning.

Probably to drop off his girlfiend and to turn around and head back home which I assume is back away from McLean since he went to W&L.

Just seems like a bad spot to make a u-turn.

Stop it! You and the seatbelt poster are disgusting. A family lost their teen. The ONLY one at fault is the drunk driver. Stop it.

+1

Obviously, we don’t want teens drinking under the influence or speeding through neighborhoods. No question. #1 lesson here.

But there are also other lessons: encourage teens to be extra cautious at night (or maybe not drive at night), wear their seatbelts, don’t make u-turns on that road, and don’t drive in small sedans.

I’m not assigning blame but looking for ways to keep my own teen safe when they start driving in a few months.

Don’t drive in small sedans!? Are you serious?

Not PP, but yes, they will always lose against a bigger car. The SUV occupants walked away.

This was a very true. I knew someone who drove huge cars, hummers to be precise, and did so only because the person drove under the influence. They knew, and intentionally only drove huge cars, so they were safe. I don’t know what has happened with this person, but I realized that I’d do my best to buy big cars for my kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Did they explain how he died “instantly”? Was he wearing a seatbelt?

If we are talking safety that’s a big one.

There is an article on the Channel 5 news page that includes pictures of both vehicles. I don’t want to link to it because the images are pretty upsetting. But based on those pictures, a seatbelt was not the determining factor. Alcohol, speed and utter recklessness were.

Sounds like he was trying to make a u-turn on Old Dominion. Yikes. Hopefully not where they put up those new bollards because of frequent accidents.

You literally cant make a U turn where you describe anymore due to the barriers. It was at old Dominion and Williamsburg one block down. Flowers are at the intersection.

Trying to keep your kid safe has nothing to do with victim blaming.
You can make a (dangerous) u-turn there. I’ve seen people do it to make the left.

Was the SUV approaching on Old Dominion or on Williamsburg?

I wonder why they think he was making a u-turn vs. just turning.

Probably to drop off his girlfiend and to turn around and head back home which I assume is back away from McLean since he went to W&L.

Just seems like a bad spot to make a u-turn.

Stop it! You and the seatbelt poster are disgusting. A family lost their teen. The ONLY one at fault is the drunk driver. Stop it.

+1

Obviously, we don’t want teens drinking under the influence or speeding through neighborhoods. No question. #1 lesson here.

But there are also other lessons: encourage teens to be extra cautious at night (or maybe not drive at night), wear their seatbelts, don’t make u-turns on that road, and don’t drive in small sedans.

I’m not assigning blame but looking for ways to keep my own teen safe when they start driving in a few months.

Teens under the age of 18 in VA are not allowed to drive between midnight-4AM.

Does that absolve the drunk driver?

No-nothing does. I have no idea who he/she is or their age. And, I am certainly not judging the victim--AT ALL. I just did not know the law until my husband and son told me last week (my husband took the DMV course with my son). My neighbor didn't know and she has a 17-year old driver.

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Anonymous wrote:Did they explain how he died “instantly”? Was he wearing a seatbelt?

If we are talking safety that’s a big one.

There is an article on the Channel 5 news page that includes pictures of both vehicles. I don’t want to link to it because the images are pretty upsetting. But based on those pictures, a seatbelt was not the determining factor. Alcohol, speed and utter recklessness were.

Sounds like he was trying to make a u-turn on Old Dominion. Yikes. Hopefully not where they put up those new bollards because of frequent accidents.

You literally cant make a U turn where you describe anymore due to the barriers. It was at old Dominion and Williamsburg one block down. Flowers are at the intersection.

You can make a (dangerous) u-turn there. I’ve seen people do it to make the left.

Was the SUV approaching on Old Dominion or on Williamsburg?

I wonder why they think he was making a u-turn vs. just turning.

Probably to drop off his girlfiend and to turn around and head back home which I assume is back away from McLean since he went to W&L.

Just seems like a bad spot to make a u-turn.

Stop it! You and the seatbelt poster are disgusting. A family lost their teen. The ONLY one at fault is the drunk driver. Stop it.

+1

Obviously, we don’t want teens drinking under the influence or speeding through neighborhoods. No question. #1 lesson here.

But there are also other lessons: encourage teens to be extra cautious at night (or maybe not drive at night), wear their seatbelts, don’t make u-turns on that road, and don’t drive in small sedans.

I’m not assigning blame but looking for ways to keep my own teen safe when they start driving in a few months.

Don’t drive in small sedans!? Are you serious?

Not PP, but yes, they will always lose against a bigger car. The SUV occupants walked away.

I argue that a sedan on sedan may not have had the same impact.

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Anonymous wrote:Did they explain how he died “instantly”? Was he wearing a seatbelt?

If we are talking safety that’s a big one.

There is an article on the Channel 5 news page that includes pictures of both vehicles. I don’t want to link to it because the images are pretty upsetting. But based on those pictures, a seatbelt was not the determining factor. Alcohol, speed and utter recklessness were.

Sounds like he was trying to make a u-turn on Old Dominion. Yikes. Hopefully not where they put up those new bollards because of frequent accidents.

You literally cant make a U turn where you describe anymore due to the barriers. It was at old Dominion and Williamsburg one block down. Flowers are at the intersection.

Trying to keep your kid safe has nothing to do with victim blaming.
You can make a (dangerous) u-turn there. I’ve seen people do it to make the left.

Was the SUV approaching on Old Dominion or on Williamsburg?

I wonder why they think he was making a u-turn vs. just turning.

Probably to drop off his girlfiend and to turn around and head back home which I assume is back away from McLean since he went to W&L.

Just seems like a bad spot to make a u-turn.

Stop it! You and the seatbelt poster are disgusting. A family lost their teen. The ONLY one at fault is the drunk driver. Stop it.

+1

Obviously, we don’t want teens drinking under the influence or speeding through neighborhoods. No question. #1 lesson here.

But there are also other lessons: encourage teens to be extra cautious at night (or maybe not drive at night), wear their seatbelts, don’t make u-turns on that road, and don’t drive in small sedans.

I’m not assigning blame but looking for ways to keep my own teen safe when they start driving in a few months.

Teens under the age of 18 in VA are not allowed to drive between midnight-4AM.

Does that absolve the drunk driver?

Drunk driver was also under 18

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Anonymous wrote:Did they explain how he died “instantly”? Was he wearing a seatbelt?

If we are talking safety that’s a big one.

There is an article on the Channel 5 news page that includes pictures of both vehicles. I don’t want to link to it because the images are pretty upsetting. But based on those pictures, a seatbelt was not the determining factor. Alcohol, speed and utter recklessness were.

Sounds like he was trying to make a u-turn on Old Dominion. Yikes. Hopefully not where they put up those new bollards because of frequent accidents.

You literally cant make a U turn where you describe anymore due to the barriers. It was at old Dominion and Williamsburg one block down. Flowers are at the intersection.

You can make a (dangerous) u-turn there. I’ve seen people do it to make the left.

Was the SUV approaching on Old Dominion or on Williamsburg?

I wonder why they think he was making a u-turn vs. just turning.

Probably to drop off his girlfiend and to turn around and head back home which I assume is back away from McLean since he went to W&L.

Just seems like a bad spot to make a u-turn.

Stop it! You and the seatbelt poster are disgusting. A family lost their teen. The ONLY one at fault is the drunk driver. Stop it.

+1

Obviously, we don’t want teens drinking under the influence or speeding through neighborhoods. No question. #1 lesson here.

But there are also other lessons: encourage teens to be extra cautious at night (or maybe not drive at night), wear their seatbelts, don’t make u-turns on that road, and don’t drive in small sedans.

I’m not assigning blame but looking for ways to keep my own teen safe when they start driving in a few months.

Don’t drive in small sedans!? Are you serious?

Not PP, but yes, they will always lose against a bigger car. The SUV occupants walked away.

I argue that a sedan on sedan may not have had the same impact.

Probably you’re right. But you get your child the bigger car because there are big cars out there driven by drunk drivers.

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Anonymous wrote:Did they explain how he died “instantly”? Was he wearing a seatbelt?

If we are talking safety that’s a big one.

There is an article on the Channel 5 news page that includes pictures of both vehicles. I don’t want to link to it because the images are pretty upsetting. But based on those pictures, a seatbelt was not the determining factor. Alcohol, speed and utter recklessness were.

Sounds like he was trying to make a u-turn on Old Dominion. Yikes. Hopefully not where they put up those new bollards because of frequent accidents.

You literally cant make a U turn where you describe anymore due to the barriers. It was at old Dominion and Williamsburg one block down. Flowers are at the intersection.

You can make a (dangerous) u-turn there. I’ve seen people do it to make the left.

Was the SUV approaching on Old Dominion or on Williamsburg?

I wonder why they think he was making a u-turn vs. just turning.

Probably to drop off his girlfiend and to turn around and head back home which I assume is back away from McLean since he went to W&L.

Just seems like a bad spot to make a u-turn.

Stop it! You and the seatbelt poster are disgusting. A family lost their teen. The ONLY one at fault is the drunk driver. Stop it.

+1

Obviously, we don’t want teens drinking under the influence or speeding through neighborhoods. No question. #1 lesson here.

But there are also other lessons: encourage teens to be extra cautious at night (or maybe not drive at night), wear their seatbelts, don’t make u-turns on that road, and don’t drive in small sedans.

I’m not assigning blame but looking for ways to keep my own teen safe when they start driving in a few months.

Don’t drive in small sedans!? Are you serious?

+1000 what ridiculousness.

Teach your kids to make strong driving choices. Model good behavior. Don't use your phone, even for hands free calls if you can. Don't do stupid driving moves so you don't miss your exit/turn. Pull over if you need to figure out directions. Teaching your kids to be conscientious drivers starts with you.

+1 And the modeling starts young. Even when my kids were 2 or 3, they were watching when I was driving. I posted elsewhere that the only ticket I ever received was when I made a right turn on red. I truly didn't see the sign posted on the side of the road. However, my 3 year old, seated in the back right passenger seat, did even in the midst of his temper tantrum (we missed lunch and were late for his nap and he was exhausted), and he had the ability to inform the officer that he saw the sign after the officer kindly asked me if I knew why I had been stopped. LOL. Not.

Anyway, that was a strong reminder to me that our kids are ALWAYS, ALWAYS watching every move we make. Modeling good driving behavior as parents, even when we're frazzled and in a hurry, may make a difference some day when our kids are behind the wheel and they are frazzled and in a hurry.

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Anonymous wrote:Did they explain how he died “instantly”? Was he wearing a seatbelt?

If we are talking safety that’s a big one.

There is an article on the Channel 5 news page that includes pictures of both vehicles. I don’t want to link to it because the images are pretty upsetting. But based on those pictures, a seatbelt was not the determining factor. Alcohol, speed and utter recklessness were.

Sounds like he was trying to make a u-turn on Old Dominion. Yikes. Hopefully not where they put up those new bollards because of frequent accidents.

You literally cant make a U turn where you describe anymore due to the barriers. It was at old Dominion and Williamsburg one block down. Flowers are at the intersection.

Trying to keep your kid safe has nothing to do with victim blaming.
You can make a (dangerous) u-turn there. I’ve seen people do it to make the left.

Was the SUV approaching on Old Dominion or on Williamsburg?

I wonder why they think he was making a u-turn vs. just turning.

Probably to drop off his girlfiend and to turn around and head back home which I assume is back away from McLean since he went to W&L.

Just seems like a bad spot to make a u-turn.

Stop it! You and the seatbelt poster are disgusting. A family lost their teen. The ONLY one at fault is the drunk driver. Stop it.

+1

Obviously, we don’t want teens drinking under the influence or speeding through neighborhoods. No question. #1 lesson here.

But there are also other lessons: encourage teens to be extra cautious at night (or maybe not drive at night), wear their seatbelts, don’t make u-turns on that road, and don’t drive in small sedans.

I’m not assigning blame but looking for ways to keep my own teen safe when they start driving in a few months.

Teens under the age of 18 in VA are not allowed to drive between midnight-4AM.

Does that absolve the drunk driver?

Drunk driver was also under 18

And?