Teen killed by drunk teen in car accident- Arlington

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Anonymous wrote:Did they explain how he died “instantly”? Was he wearing a seatbelt?

If we are talking safety that’s a big one.

There is an article on the Channel 5 news page that includes pictures of both vehicles. I don’t want to link to it because the images are pretty upsetting. But based on those pictures, a seatbelt was not the determining factor. Alcohol, speed and utter recklessness were.

Sounds like he was trying to make a u-turn on Old Dominion. Yikes. Hopefully not where they put up those new bollards because of frequent accidents.

You literally cant make a U turn where you describe anymore due to the barriers. It was at old Dominion and Williamsburg one block down. Flowers are at the intersection.

You can make a (dangerous) u-turn there. I’ve seen people do it to make the left.

Was the SUV approaching on Old Dominion or on Williamsburg?

I wonder why they think he was making a u-turn vs. just turning.

Probably to drop off his girlfiend and to turn around and head back home which I assume is back away from McLean since he went to W&L.

Just seems like a bad spot to make a u-turn.

Stop it! You and the seatbelt poster are disgusting. A family lost their teen. The ONLY one at fault is the drunk driver. Stop it.

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Obviously, we don’t want teens drinking under the influence or speeding through neighborhoods. No question. #1 lesson here.

But there are also other lessons: encourage teens to be extra cautious at night (or maybe not drive at night), wear their seatbelts, don’t make u-turns on that road, and don’t drive in small sedans.

I’m not assigning blame but looking for ways to keep my own teen safe when they start driving in a few months.

Don’t drive in small sedans!? Are you serious?

+1000 what ridiculousness.

Teach your kids to make strong driving choices. Model good behavior. Don't use your phone, even for hands free calls if you can. Don't do stupid driving moves so you don't miss your exit/turn. Pull over if you need to figure out directions. Teaching your kids to be conscientious drivers starts with you.

+1 And the modeling starts young. Even when my kids were 2 or 3, they were watching when I was driving. I posted elsewhere that the only ticket I ever received was when I made a right turn on red. I truly didn't see the sign posted on the side of the road. However, my 3 year old, seated in the back right passenger seat, did even in the midst of his temper tantrum (we missed lunch and were late for his nap and he was exhausted), and he had the ability to inform the officer that he saw the sign after the officer kindly asked me if I knew why I had been stopped. LOL. Not.

Anyway, that was a strong reminder to me that our kids are ALWAYS, ALWAYS watching every move we make. Modeling good driving behavior as parents, even when we're frazzled and in a hurry, may make a difference some day when our kids are behind the wheel and they are frazzled and in a hurry.

You are ridiculous. Taking the chance to brag amidst a tragedy. Your 3 year old could read traffic signs, which for the No turn on red are usually spelled out. Right!

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Anonymous wrote:Did they explain how he died “instantly”? Was he wearing a seatbelt?

If we are talking safety that’s a big one.

There is an article on the Channel 5 news page that includes pictures of both vehicles. I don’t want to link to it because the images are pretty upsetting. But based on those pictures, a seatbelt was not the determining factor. Alcohol, speed and utter recklessness were.

Sounds like he was trying to make a u-turn on Old Dominion. Yikes. Hopefully not where they put up those new bollards because of frequent accidents.

You literally cant make a U turn where you describe anymore due to the barriers. It was at old Dominion and Williamsburg one block down. Flowers are at the intersection.

You can make a (dangerous) u-turn there. I’ve seen people do it to make the left.

Was the SUV approaching on Old Dominion or on Williamsburg?

I wonder why they think he was making a u-turn vs. just turning.

Probably to drop off his girlfiend and to turn around and head back home which I assume is back away from McLean since he went to W&L.

Just seems like a bad spot to make a u-turn.

Stop it! You and the seatbelt poster are disgusting. A family lost their teen. The ONLY one at fault is the drunk driver. Stop it.

+1

Obviously, we don’t want teens drinking under the influence or speeding through neighborhoods. No question. #1 lesson here.

But there are also other lessons: encourage teens to be extra cautious at night (or maybe not drive at night), wear their seatbelts, don’t make u-turns on that road, and don’t drive in small sedans.

I’m not assigning blame but looking for ways to keep my own teen safe when they start driving in a few months.

Don’t drive in small sedans!? Are you serious?

+1000 what ridiculousness.

Teach your kids to make strong driving choices. Model good behavior. Don't use your phone, even for hands free calls if you can. Don't do stupid driving moves so you don't miss your exit/turn. Pull over if you need to figure out directions. Teaching your kids to be conscientious drivers starts with you.

+1 And the modeling starts young. Even when my kids were 2 or 3, they were watching when I was driving. I posted elsewhere that the only ticket I ever received was when I made a right turn on red. I truly didn't see the sign posted on the side of the road. However, my 3 year old, seated in the back right passenger seat, did even in the midst of his temper tantrum (we missed lunch and were late for his nap and he was exhausted), and he had the ability to inform the officer that he saw the sign after the officer kindly asked me if I knew why I had been stopped. LOL. Not.

Anyway, that was a strong reminder to me that our kids are ALWAYS, ALWAYS watching every move we make. Modeling good driving behavior as parents, even when we're frazzled and in a hurry, may make a difference some day when our kids are behind the wheel and they are frazzled and in a hurry.

What a strange brag. Your children should have been rear facing at 2 anyway so you sound dumb.

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Anonymous wrote:Did they explain how he died “instantly”? Was he wearing a seatbelt?

If we are talking safety that’s a big one.

There is an article on the Channel 5 news page that includes pictures of both vehicles. I don’t want to link to it because the images are pretty upsetting. But based on those pictures, a seatbelt was not the determining factor. Alcohol, speed and utter recklessness were.

Sounds like he was trying to make a u-turn on Old Dominion. Yikes. Hopefully not where they put up those new bollards because of frequent accidents.

You literally cant make a U turn where you describe anymore due to the barriers. It was at old Dominion and Williamsburg one block down. Flowers are at the intersection.

You can make a (dangerous) u-turn there. I’ve seen people do it to make the left.

Was the SUV approaching on Old Dominion or on Williamsburg?

I wonder why they think he was making a u-turn vs. just turning.

Probably to drop off his girlfiend and to turn around and head back home which I assume is back away from McLean since he went to W&L.

Just seems like a bad spot to make a u-turn.

Stop it! You and the seatbelt poster are disgusting. A family lost their teen. The ONLY one at fault is the drunk driver. Stop it.

+1

Obviously, we don’t want teens drinking under the influence or speeding through neighborhoods. No question. #1 lesson here.

But there are also other lessons: encourage teens to be extra cautious at night (or maybe not drive at night), wear their seatbelts, don’t make u-turns on that road, and don’t drive in small sedans.

I’m not assigning blame but looking for ways to keep my own teen safe when they start driving in a few months.

Don’t drive in small sedans!? Are you serious?

+1000 what ridiculousness.

Teach your kids to make strong driving choices. Model good behavior. Don't use your phone, even for hands free calls if you can. Don't do stupid driving moves so you don't miss your exit/turn. Pull over if you need to figure out directions. Teaching your kids to be conscientious drivers starts with you.

+1 And the modeling starts young. Even when my kids were 2 or 3, they were watching when I was driving. I posted elsewhere that the only ticket I ever received was when I made a right turn on red. I truly didn't see the sign posted on the side of the road. However, my 3 year old, seated in the back right passenger seat, did even in the midst of his temper tantrum (we missed lunch and were late for his nap and he was exhausted), and he had the ability to inform the officer that he saw the sign after the officer kindly asked me if I knew why I had been stopped. LOL. Not.

Anyway, that was a strong reminder to me that our kids are ALWAYS, ALWAYS watching every move we make. Modeling good driving behavior as parents, even when we're frazzled and in a hurry, may make a difference some day when our kids are behind the wheel and they are frazzled and in a hurry.

You are ridiculous. Taking the chance to brag amidst a tragedy. Your 3 year old could read traffic signs, which for the No turn on red are usually spelled out. Right!

How on earth are you reading that as a brag? Wow. Oh well. Ignore it. Unfortunately I see that it has triggered you because you have posted about it now three times.

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Anonymous wrote:Did they explain how he died “instantly”? Was he wearing a seatbelt?

If we are talking safety that’s a big one.

There is an article on the Channel 5 news page that includes pictures of both vehicles. I don’t want to link to it because the images are pretty upsetting. But based on those pictures, a seatbelt was not the determining factor. Alcohol, speed and utter recklessness were.

Sounds like he was trying to make a u-turn on Old Dominion. Yikes. Hopefully not where they put up those new bollards because of frequent accidents.

You literally cant make a U turn where you describe anymore due to the barriers. It was at old Dominion and Williamsburg one block down. Flowers are at the intersection.

You can make a (dangerous) u-turn there. I’ve seen people do it to make the left.

Was the SUV approaching on Old Dominion or on Williamsburg?

I wonder why they think he was making a u-turn vs. just turning.

Probably to drop off his girlfiend and to turn around and head back home which I assume is back away from McLean since he went to W&L.

Just seems like a bad spot to make a u-turn.

Stop it! You and the seatbelt poster are disgusting. A family lost their teen. The ONLY one at fault is the drunk driver. Stop it.

+1

Obviously, we don’t want teens drinking under the influence or speeding through neighborhoods. No question. #1 lesson here.

But there are also other lessons: encourage teens to be extra cautious at night (or maybe not drive at night), wear their seatbelts, don’t make u-turns on that road, and don’t drive in small sedans.

I’m not assigning blame but looking for ways to keep my own teen safe when they start driving in a few months.

Don’t drive in small sedans!? Are you serious?

+1000 what ridiculousness.

Teach your kids to make strong driving choices. Model good behavior. Don't use your phone, even for hands free calls if you can. Don't do stupid driving moves so you don't miss your exit/turn. Pull over if you need to figure out directions. Teaching your kids to be conscientious drivers starts with you.

+1 And the modeling starts young. Even when my kids were 2 or 3, they were watching when I was driving. I posted elsewhere that the only ticket I ever received was when I made a right turn on red. I truly didn't see the sign posted on the side of the road. However, my 3 year old, seated in the back right passenger seat, did even in the midst of his temper tantrum (we missed lunch and were late for his nap and he was exhausted), and he had the ability to inform the officer that he saw the sign after the officer kindly asked me if I knew why I had been stopped. LOL. Not.

Anyway, that was a strong reminder to me that our kids are ALWAYS, ALWAYS watching every move we make. Modeling good driving behavior as parents, even when we're frazzled and in a hurry, may make a difference some day when our kids are behind the wheel and they are frazzled and in a hurry.

You are ridiculous. Taking the chance to brag amidst a tragedy. Your 3 year old could read traffic signs, which for the No turn on red are usually spelled out. Right!

How on earth are you reading that as a brag? Wow. Oh well. Ignore it. Unfortunately I see that it has triggered you because you have posted about it now three times.

I only replied to you once. There were only two posts that quoted you, mine and another one. You need help.

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Anonymous wrote:Did they explain how he died “instantly”? Was he wearing a seatbelt?

If we are talking safety that’s a big one.

There is an article on the Channel 5 news page that includes pictures of both vehicles. I don’t want to link to it because the images are pretty upsetting. But based on those pictures, a seatbelt was not the determining factor. Alcohol, speed and utter recklessness were.

Sounds like he was trying to make a u-turn on Old Dominion. Yikes. Hopefully not where they put up those new bollards because of frequent accidents.

You literally cant make a U turn where you describe anymore due to the barriers. It was at old Dominion and Williamsburg one block down. Flowers are at the intersection.

You can make a (dangerous) u-turn there. I’ve seen people do it to make the left.

Was the SUV approaching on Old Dominion or on Williamsburg?

I wonder why they think he was making a u-turn vs. just turning.

Probably to drop off his girlfiend and to turn around and head back home which I assume is back away from McLean since he went to W&L.

Just seems like a bad spot to make a u-turn.

Stop it! You and the seatbelt poster are disgusting. A family lost their teen. The ONLY one at fault is the drunk driver. Stop it.

+1

Obviously, we don’t want teens drinking under the influence or speeding through neighborhoods. No question. #1 lesson here.

But there are also other lessons: encourage teens to be extra cautious at night (or maybe not drive at night), wear their seatbelts, don’t make u-turns on that road, and don’t drive in small sedans.

I’m not assigning blame but looking for ways to keep my own teen safe when they start driving in a few months.

Don’t drive in small sedans!? Are you serious?

+1000 what ridiculousness.

Teach your kids to make strong driving choices. Model good behavior. Don't use your phone, even for hands free calls if you can. Don't do stupid driving moves so you don't miss your exit/turn. Pull over if you need to figure out directions. Teaching your kids to be conscientious drivers starts with you.

+1 And the modeling starts young. Even when my kids were 2 or 3, they were watching when I was driving. I posted elsewhere that the only ticket I ever received was when I made a right turn on red. I truly didn't see the sign posted on the side of the road. However, my 3 year old, seated in the back right passenger seat, did even in the midst of his temper tantrum (we missed lunch and were late for his nap and he was exhausted), and he had the ability to inform the officer that he saw the sign after the officer kindly asked me if I knew why I had been stopped. LOL. Not.

Anyway, that was a strong reminder to me that our kids are ALWAYS, ALWAYS watching every move we make. Modeling good driving behavior as parents, even when we're frazzled and in a hurry, may make a difference some day when our kids are behind the wheel and they are frazzled and in a hurry.

You are ridiculous. Taking the chance to brag amidst a tragedy. Your 3 year old could read traffic signs, which for the No turn on red are usually spelled out. Right!

How on earth are you reading that as a brag? Wow. Oh well. Ignore it. Unfortunately I see that it has triggered you because you have posted about it now three times.

I only replied to you once. There were only two posts that quoted you, mine and another one. You need help.

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Will we learn more about the driver and the case against him, or will that be sealed because he’s a minor?

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Anonymous wrote:Did they explain how he died “instantly”? Was he wearing a seatbelt?

If we are talking safety that’s a big one.

There is an article on the Channel 5 news page that includes pictures of both vehicles. I don’t want to link to it because the images are pretty upsetting. But based on those pictures, a seatbelt was not the determining factor. Alcohol, speed and utter recklessness were.

Sounds like he was trying to make a u-turn on Old Dominion. Yikes. Hopefully not where they put up those new bollards because of frequent accidents.

You literally cant make a U turn where you describe anymore due to the barriers. It was at old Dominion and Williamsburg one block down. Flowers are at the intersection.

You can make a (dangerous) u-turn there. I’ve seen people do it to make the left.

Was the SUV approaching on Old Dominion or on Williamsburg?

I wonder why they think he was making a u-turn vs. just turning.

Probably to drop off his girlfiend and to turn around and head back home which I assume is back away from McLean since he went to W&L.

Just seems like a bad spot to make a u-turn.

Stop it! You and the seatbelt poster are disgusting. A family lost their teen. The ONLY one at fault is the drunk driver. Stop it.

+1

Obviously, we don’t want teens drinking under the influence or speeding through neighborhoods. No question. #1 lesson here.

But there are also other lessons: encourage teens to be extra cautious at night (or maybe not drive at night), wear their seatbelts, don’t make u-turns on that road, and don’t drive in small sedans.

I’m not assigning blame but looking for ways to keep my own teen safe when they start driving in a few months.

Don’t drive in small sedans!? Are you serious?

Not PP, but yes, they will always lose against a bigger car. The SUV occupants walked away.

In a few years, after he's settled down with a nice protector in prison, the driver may wish he didn't walk away

This type of statement is just so gross and inappropriate. Has a tinge of sadism and doesn't belong on this site.

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The driver is less than 3 months from being 18. I hope to god that he is tried as an adult.

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Anonymous wrote:The driver is less than 3 months from being 18. I hope to god that he is tried as an adult.

I hope not. I think there is a difference between a 17 year old and a 30 year old.

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Anonymous wrote:The driver is less than 3 months from being 18. I hope to god that he is tried as an adult.

I hope not. I think there is a difference between a 17 year old and a 30 year old.

. You are legally an adult when you turn 18, not 30. If he were 18, there wouldn't even be a question. He killed someone and needs to pay for that.

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Anonymous wrote:The driver is less than 3 months from being 18. I hope to god that he is tried as an adult.

I hope not. I think there is a difference between a 17 year old and a 30 year old.

I'm sure that is comforting to the parents of the dead kid.

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Anonymous wrote:Did they explain how he died “instantly”? Was he wearing a seatbelt?

If we are talking safety that’s a big one.

There is an article on the Channel 5 news page that includes pictures of both vehicles. I don’t want to link to it because the images are pretty upsetting. But based on those pictures, a seatbelt was not the determining factor. Alcohol, speed and utter recklessness were.

Sounds like he was trying to make a u-turn on Old Dominion. Yikes. Hopefully not where they put up those new bollards because of frequent accidents.

You literally cant make a U turn where you describe anymore due to the barriers. It was at old Dominion and Williamsburg one block down. Flowers are at the intersection.

You can make a (dangerous) u-turn there. I’ve seen people do it to make the left.

Was the SUV approaching on Old Dominion or on Williamsburg?

I wonder why they think he was making a u-turn vs. just turning.

Probably to drop off his girlfiend and to turn around and head back home which I assume is back away from McLean since he went to W&L.

Just seems like a bad spot to make a u-turn.

Stop it! You and the seatbelt poster are disgusting. A family lost their teen. The ONLY one at fault is the drunk driver. Stop it.

+1

Obviously, we don’t want teens drinking under the influence or speeding through neighborhoods. No question. #1 lesson here.

But there are also other lessons: encourage teens to be extra cautious at night (or maybe not drive at night), wear their seatbelts, don’t make u-turns on that road, and don’t drive in small sedans.

I’m not assigning blame but looking for ways to keep my own teen safe when they start driving in a few months.

Don’t drive in small sedans!? Are you serious?

Not PP, but yes, they will always lose against a bigger car. The SUV occupants walked away.

In a few years, after he's settled down with a nice protector in prison, the driver may wish he didn't walk away

This type of statement is just so gross and inappropriate. Has a tinge of sadism and doesn't belong on this site.

+1

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Please stop dissecting this poor victim’s u-turn. That is not a busy intersection that time of day and he was likely turning around to go home after dropping his girlfriend. You can’t tell me none of you has ever made a u-turn. Sounds like the other car was coming so fast he likely didn’t even see it.

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Anonymous wrote:The driver is less than 3 months from being 18. I hope to god that he is tried as an adult.

I hope not. I think there is a difference between a 17 year old and a 30 year old.

. You are legally an adult when you turn 18, not 30. If he were 18, there wouldn't even be a question. He killed someone and needs to pay for that.

So what are you bringing it up for then?

I feel terrible for the victim and his family, but you’re being inconsistent.

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Anonymous wrote:Please stop dissecting this poor victim’s u-turn. That is not a busy intersection that time of day and he was likely turning around to go home after dropping his girlfriend. You can’t tell me none of you has ever made a u-turn. Sounds like the other car was coming so fast he likely didn’t even see it.

Not a poster who ‘dissected’ the u-turn.

I think/hope those posters are sympathetic and concerned because u-turns seem harmless but are dangerous. I think it’s their self reflection. I found myself explaining to my child how a u-turn is much more dangerous than a left turn, and why.

I think back to being that age and thinking I-turns were cool. And no, it doesn’t have to make sense. Now as a parent I am terrified at all the things I did when I was younger, and would not do. I still take u-turns, but I’m much more aware of their dangers.

At that time of night, you don’t except anyone on the road.

My heart aches for that child and his family. Gone too soon.