Two children killed by family pet

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This is horrific. But also, a good lesson about When optimism crosses over into arrogance with disastrous consequences. There are known dangers associated with these animals. To overlook them Because you "hope for the best" is arrogance. The consequences, sadly, speak for themself.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm sure the mother wishes she never survived. The whole thing is horrible.

All these posts heaping all blame on DH. Yes but she let them in the room with her babies.

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Anonymous wrote:^^ Also vet offices should charge outrageous hazard fees for dealing with the dogs. We need to make pit bull ownership absolute misery.

Vets are half the problem. Many of them push the lie that these are just normal dogs, nothing bad about them.

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Anonymous wrote:A ban is literally never going to happen. I don’t know what the answer is.

+1 I mean guns haven't even been banned and they kill a lot more children than pitbulls.....

Dade County, FL (Miami) banned them. The largest county by population in one of the most populous states. These dogs are bred to fight, to bite without warning, and not to let go. They shouldn’t be everywhere and more places should ban them.

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In all seriousness this thread has me terrified of encountering a pit while walking my doodle. Is there a spray I can carry like mace or bear spray?

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Anonymous wrote:Fewer than 50 people a year die from dog bites. I can't believe how people react so vehemently to this - and yes it is horrible - but 21 people were killed at Ulvade and what are we doing about it?

You talk about bans,
the police shoot about 1000 people to death a year.
How many rapes and or murders per year do male humans commit?
How many kids die per year from sports related injuries?

I agree a person is nuts to have big strong dogs around kids. It's like leaving a loaded gun around. But all dogs are not the same. I've had many dogs in and out of my home through foster care and the scariest ones have been chihuahuas and a blue heeler.

Most pit bulls I've encountered are mutts, not intentionally bred but irresponsibly brought into the world through neglect. The unfixed parents make the puppies and the owners just don't care.

I would agree that it should be illegal to own an unfixed dog and I would get on board with only licensed breeders, breeding from selected/approved stock. There are approximately 18 MILLION pit bulls in the US, there is a reason there aren't millions of dog bites or fatal maulings per year. Because not all dogs are the same.

I’m sure many on this board wanting regulation or bans of pit bulls feel similarly about guns and police use of deadly force. It’s not like I’m a huge fan of unlicensed gun sales and police officers shooting people, but dislike pit bulls. Murder and rape is also bad. I’m also in favor of efforts to reduce those. I really don’t think you’re making the grand point you think you’re making.

Also “only” ~50 deaths a year seems like a lot when it’s so entirely preventable. There are so many better pets out there that you can still have the benefit of animal companionship without the risk of being brutally mauled by a pit. Not to mention this number doesn’t include people “merely” maimed and other pets/stray animals killed.

And I’m pretty sure actual deaths from sports injuries are rare and when they do occur are often linked to undiagnosed health problems like a cardiac issue or are a total fluke. If kids do start dying from completely preventable sports deaths I’m sure the youth athletic world will call for changes.

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Anonymous wrote:In all seriousness this thread has me terrified of encountering a pit while walking my doodle. Is there a spray I can carry like mace or bear spray?

Yes of course. Why wouldn't you carry it?

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Anonymous wrote:A ban is literally never going to happen. I don’t know what the answer is.

+1 I mean guns haven't even been banned and they kill a lot more children than pitbulls.....

Dade County, FL (Miami) banned them. The largest county by population in one of the most populous states. These dogs are bred to fight, to bite without warning, and not to let go. They shouldn’t be everywhere and more places should ban them.

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Not saying I don’t wish they would be banned. I just don’t think it’s ever going to happen. As PP said, as a nation we don’t even care to do anything when elementary schoolers are gunned down in class. The pushback on telling people what dog they can or can’t own would be immense. We’re too individualistic.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone with young kids should have to look at photos from this mauling before they decide to adopt a pit Bull. I love dogs and I love that my kids are growing up with pets — a lab/hound mix (actual, not a pit mix that is called something else) and a cat. But there is no potential benefit from owning a pet that would ever make me take the risk (even if small from no that particular dog) of having a pit, rottie, or any other dog that could do serious damage to my kids. This is just heartbreaking. What were these parents thinking?

I guarantee there was literally nothing left of that baby. Nothing.

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One of the officers is reported to have vomited at the scene.

Career-ending trauma.

Also read that these 2 dogs were euthanized.

link? I mean it wouldn’t surprise me, but I haven’t seen it anywhere.

Gibson wrote on Facebook Bennard suffered “uncountable amount of stitches and bite marks over her entire body, including her face.” He also posted a link to a fundraiser created by family friends on Friday to help the family.
The dogs – two pit bulls that belonged to the family – were euthanized at Memphis Animal Services Thursday.

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Anonymous wrote:Why on earth does anyone want a pitbull? It makes no sense.

To show off.

One of my employees had pit bull puppies (2). My understanding is they were cute when small. They have since destroyed the furniture in her apartment and I think also the drywall. She is currently pregnant. She has moved out to live with her boyfriend. Hopefully she did not take the dogs and
her former girlfriend still has the dogs.

In many neighborhoods pit bull puppies are free and available.

As I was walking down my eastern shore farm lane two weeks ago I came across a very, very wealthy neighbor. He was walking a dog which happened to be a Pit Bull. I asked about the dog because I'd never seen him with a dog before. He told me the dog had been a stray and had adopted him.
He wasn't sure about keeping the dog. The dog was full grown and pulling on the lead. Hopefully my educated, wealthy neighbor comes to his senses. His wife is a tiny woman and I worry for her.

In poor neighborhoods pit bull puppies are free and available. In well to do neighborhoods full grown pit bulls are roaming the countryside.

Of course pit bull puppies are cute. Just like lion cubs and bear cubs and baby tigers etc… doesn’t mean I’m gonna adopt a lion or a bear!

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Anonymous wrote:In all seriousness this thread has me terrified of encountering a pit while walking my doodle. Is there a spray I can carry like mace or bear spray?

Yes of course. Why wouldn't you carry it?

just know that once you spray it in the air it gets in everyone’s eyes. If the dogs are fighting not sure how you would do this. And if you spray someone else’s dog because it barks at you then you could get charged with animal cruelty. So know what you’re getting into if you decide to go that route.

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Anonymous wrote:Fewer than 50 people a year die from dog bites. I can't believe how people react so vehemently to this - and yes it is horrible - but 21 people were killed at Ulvade and what are we doing about it?

You talk about bans,
the police shoot about 1000 people to death a year.
How many rapes and or murders per year do male humans commit?
How many kids die per year from sports related injuries?

I agree a person is nuts to have big strong dogs around kids. It's like leaving a loaded gun around. But all dogs are not the same. I've had many dogs in and out of my home through foster care and the scariest ones have been chihuahuas and a blue heeler.

Most pit bulls I've encountered are mutts, not intentionally bred but irresponsibly brought into the world through neglect. The unfixed parents make the puppies and the owners just don't care.

I would agree that it should be illegal to own an unfixed dog and I would get on board with only licensed breeders, breeding from selected/approved stock. There are approximately 18 MILLION pit bulls in the US, there is a reason there aren't millions of dog bites or fatal maulings per year. Because not all dogs are the same.

Finally! A sane person. Thank you, pp.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why on earth does anyone want a pitbull? It makes no sense.

To show off.

One of my employees had pit bull puppies (2). My understanding is they were cute when small. They have since destroyed the furniture in her apartment and I think also the drywall. She is currently pregnant. She has moved out to live with her boyfriend. Hopefully she did not take the dogs and
her former girlfriend still has the dogs.

In many neighborhoods pit bull puppies are free and available.

As I was walking down my eastern shore farm lane two weeks ago I came across a very, very wealthy neighbor. He was walking a dog which happened to be a Pit Bull. I asked about the dog because I'd never seen him with a dog before. He told me the dog had been a stray and had adopted him.
He wasn't sure about keeping the dog. The dog was full grown and pulling on the lead. Hopefully my educated, wealthy neighbor comes to his senses. His wife is a tiny woman and I worry for her.

In poor neighborhoods pit bull puppies are free and available. In well to do neighborhoods full grown pit bulls are roaming the countryside.



It is obvious you don't know dogs. Walking on a leash is unnatural to every dog and must be trained to get used to it. Pulling on the lead does not mean the dog is going to hurt anyone. Dogs pull because we walk slower than them and they want to explore with their nose which is how they communicate with the world.

Btw. For your information there is no such breed as pit bull. Pit bull term is talking about five " bully" breeds.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In all seriousness this thread has me terrified of encountering a pit while walking my doodle. Is there a spray I can carry like mace or bear spray?

Yes of course. Why wouldn't you carry it?

just know that once you spray it in the air it gets in everyone’s eyes. If the dogs are fighting not sure how you would do this. And if you spray someone else’s dog because it barks at you then you could get charged with animal cruelty. So know what you’re getting into if you decide to go that route.

And if you’re going to carry it get the same brand’s practice water spray so you know how to use it. Don’t carry spray you don’t know how to use.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why on earth does anyone want a pitbull? It makes no sense.

To show off.

One of my employees had pit bull puppies (2). My understanding is they were cute when small. They have since destroyed the furniture in her apartment and I think also the drywall. She is currently pregnant. She has moved out to live with her boyfriend. Hopefully she did not take the dogs and
her former girlfriend still has the dogs.

In many neighborhoods pit bull puppies are free and available.

As I was walking down my eastern shore farm lane two weeks ago I came across a very, very wealthy neighbor. He was walking a dog which happened to be a Pit Bull. I asked about the dog because I'd never seen him with a dog before. He told me the dog had been a stray and had adopted him.
He wasn't sure about keeping the dog. The dog was full grown and pulling on the lead. Hopefully my educated, wealthy neighbor comes to his senses. His wife is a tiny woman and I worry for her.

In poor neighborhoods pit bull puppies are free and available. In well to do neighborhoods full grown pit bulls are roaming the countryside.



It is obvious you don't know dogs. Walking on a leash is unnatural to every dog and must be trained to get used to it. Pulling on the lead does not mean the dog is going to hurt anyone. Dogs pull because we walk slower than them and they want to explore with their nose which is how they communicate with the world.

Btw. For your information there is no such breed as pit bull. Pit bull term is talking about five " bully" breeds.

The American pit bull terrier is a breed but I agree that “pit bull” is used to refer to several breeds.