Lawsuit challenging MCPS magnet admissions dismissed

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Honestly I think if MCPS would just work on improving their general curriculum, maybe emulating the higher performing public school systems, you wouldn’t have so many dissatisfied parents and students trying desperately to get into the few magnet seats available.

There's no higher performing public schools systems. MCPS is the highest rated large school system.
And don't mention those school systems of 10 to 20 thousands students.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Holy smokes!?!?!?! Seriously????

MCPS is not in the business of training Olympians! It is a public school system. And extracurricular sports are NOT NOT NOT a primary function. School sports are fun, community building efforts.

Is literally EVERYTHING some kind of competition to you? Can't anything just be done because it brings communities together in a way so that they enjoy being together????



How is this possible when MCPS divides the community by injecting race equity into the mix?
Why deny opportunities for some highly abled students who are equally qualified? Why can't they treat every student equally and meet every student's needs to maximize their potential?


That's exactly what they've addressed with their new selection criteria by ensuring all students have access to these programs not just ones from wealthy schools who invested thousands of dollars into prep classes to make them appear gifted.


Very true but many wealthy parents resent not being able to game admissions like the good old days.


You sound bitter? You seem to think that wealthy parents can 'game' college admissions? I really can't change your life for you. You need to step up and own your situation if you want your children to succeed.

The fact is that 'wealthy' parents are more likely than not successful, and successful parents are more likely than not educated, and educated parents more likely than not care about their children's education.

If the kid can make it through college, then they can. But let's be completely honest here. MCPS is, right now, paying tons to offer free tutoring. They were so desperate for takers, the tutoring company was reaching out to the parents themselves via email at the beginning of the summer. Anyone seeing MCPS bragging how many families are using the program versus how many hours are available for free tutoring? Why is that? My theory is that a few are taking advantage of it, but the 'wealthy' parents already have or can afford tutors if they want them, and MCPS overestimated the rush towards snapping up free tutoring. Not all parents care about education nor do they care if their kid gets into college. You can lead a horse to water, but will they drink? I can see MCPS offering tutoring when a parent can't afford it and they request it, or it kicking in automatically whenever a child gets a C, but that's only if your leadership plans well and knows what they're doing.

Unfortunately I think MCPS is wasting money and slowly sliding into a ditch with these new 'equity' versus 'equality' policies. Current MCPS leadership is still stuck in the civil rights '70's and needs to be replaced. I'm hoping the board is completely voted out this year with people who will ask the hard questions and hold MCPS accountable, or fires them.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Honestly I think if MCPS would just work on improving their general curriculum, maybe emulating the higher performing public school systems, you wouldn’t have so many dissatisfied parents and students trying desperately to get into the few magnet seats available.

There's no higher performing public schools systems. MCPS is the highest rated large school system.
And don't mention those school systems of 10 to 20 thousands students.


Actually, MCPS is #636 Nationwide, so if your argument is MCPS is too large and should be broken up into smaller school clusters, I fully agree.

https://www.niche.com/k12/d/montgomery-county-public-schools-md/rankings/
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Honestly I think if MCPS would just work on improving their general curriculum, maybe emulating the higher performing public school systems, you wouldn’t have so many dissatisfied parents and students trying desperately to get into the few magnet seats available.

There's no higher performing public schools systems. MCPS is the highest rated large school system.
And don't mention those school systems of 10 to 20 thousands students.


Actually, MCPS is #636 Nationwide, so if your argument is MCPS is too large and should be broken up into smaller school clusters, I fully agree.

https://www.niche.com/k12/d/montgomery-county-public-schools-md/rankings/


No, it shouldn't. We all benefit from the economy of scale, and that would also be against state law.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Holy smokes!?!?!?! Seriously????

MCPS is not in the business of training Olympians! It is a public school system. And extracurricular sports are NOT NOT NOT a primary function. School sports are fun, community building efforts.

Is literally EVERYTHING some kind of competition to you? Can't anything just be done because it brings communities together in a way so that they enjoy being together????



How is this possible when MCPS divides the community by injecting race equity into the mix?
Why deny opportunities for some highly abled students who are equally qualified? Why can't they treat every student equally and meet every student's needs to maximize their potential?


That's exactly what they've addressed with their new selection criteria by ensuring all students have access to these programs not just ones from wealthy schools who invested thousands of dollars into prep classes to make them appear gifted.


Very true but many wealthy parents resent not being able to game admissions like the good old days.


The wealthy parents are bitter that they can no longer easily game admissions like the good old days but their frivolous lawsuits keep getting laughed out of court.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Honestly I think if MCPS would just work on improving their general curriculum, maybe emulating the higher performing public school systems, you wouldn’t have so many dissatisfied parents and students trying desperately to get into the few magnet seats available.

There's no higher performing public schools systems. MCPS is the highest rated large school system.
And don't mention those school systems of 10 to 20 thousands students.


Actually, MCPS is #636 Nationwide, so if your argument is MCPS is too large and should be broken up into smaller school clusters, I fully agree.

https://www.niche.com/k12/d/montgomery-county-public-schools-md/rankings/


Actually, that methodology is suspect. Compare MCPS to any other district with 35% FARMS and see how it fares. It is easily the best in the nation.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Honestly I think if MCPS would just work on improving their general curriculum, maybe emulating the higher performing public school systems, you wouldn’t have so many dissatisfied parents and students trying desperately to get into the few magnet seats available.

There's no higher performing public schools systems. MCPS is the highest rated large school system.
And don't mention those school systems of 10 to 20 thousands students.


Actually, MCPS is #636 Nationwide, so if your argument is MCPS is too large and should be broken up into smaller school clusters, I fully agree.

https://www.niche.com/k12/d/montgomery-county-public-schools-md/rankings/

Yes but it is the highest ranked large school system. All the ones above MCPS have between 2,000 to 25,000 students, expect for one that have about 60,000 students.
Anonymous
LOL! Those rankings include individual charter schools as a "school system."
Anonymous
Who cares about the size of the system. What matters is the results and results are pathetic. Majority of the schools are struggling and ratings are going south. This is the direct result of Equity over Excellence and denial of opportunities for highly abled students.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Who cares about the size of the system. What matters is the results and results are pathetic. Majority of the schools are struggling and ratings are going south. This is the direct result of Equity over Excellence and denial of opportunities for highly abled students.


Failure to provide opportunities for ALL students to reach their potential is the reason people, who can, are moving out to highly rated schools in neighboring counties.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Who cares about the size of the system. What matters is the results and results are pathetic. Majority of the schools are struggling and ratings are going south. This is the direct result of Equity over Excellence and denial of opportunities for highly abled students.


These ratings are comparing apples and oranges. Or maybe blueberries and watermelons.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Who cares about the size of the system. What matters is the results and results are pathetic. Majority of the schools are struggling and ratings are going south. This is the direct result of Equity over Excellence and denial of opportunities for highly abled students.


Failure to provide opportunities for ALL students to reach their potential is the reason people, who can, are moving out to highly rated schools in neighboring counties.


"Moving out" is the equivalent of self-segregation. These other jurisdictions have less diversity.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Who cares about the size of the system. What matters is the results and results are pathetic. Majority of the schools are struggling and ratings are going south. This is the direct result of Equity over Excellence and denial of opportunities for highly abled students.


Failure to provide opportunities for ALL students to reach their potential is the reason people, who can, are moving out to highly rated schools in neighboring counties.


"Moving out" is the equivalent of self-segregation. These other jurisdictions have less diversity.


Actually more people seem to be moving in and those that are leaving are mostly problem parents who complain but don't ever help so good riddance.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Honestly I think if MCPS would just work on improving their general curriculum, maybe emulating the higher performing public school systems, you wouldn’t have so many dissatisfied parents and students trying desperately to get into the few magnet seats available.

There's no higher performing public schools systems. MCPS is the highest rated large school system.
And don't mention those school systems of 10 to 20 thousands students.


Actually, MCPS is #636 Nationwide, so if your argument is MCPS is too large and should be broken up into smaller school clusters, I fully agree.

https://www.niche.com/k12/d/montgomery-county-public-schools-md/rankings/

Yes but it is the highest ranked large school system. All the ones above MCPS have between 2,000 to 25,000 students, expect for one that have about 60,000 students.


Yes, none of those top-ranked schools have anything close to 35% FARMS or the racial diversity of MCPS. When comparing apples to apples, MCPS wins out.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Holy smokes!?!?!?! Seriously????

MCPS is not in the business of training Olympians! It is a public school system. And extracurricular sports are NOT NOT NOT a primary function. School sports are fun, community building efforts.

Is literally EVERYTHING some kind of competition to you? Can't anything just be done because it brings communities together in a way so that they enjoy being together????



How is this possible when MCPS divides the community by injecting race equity into the mix?
Why deny opportunities for some highly abled students who are equally qualified? Why can't they treat every student equally and meet every student's needs to maximize their potential?


That's exactly what they've addressed with their new selection criteria by ensuring all students have access to these programs not just ones from wealthy schools who invested thousands of dollars into prep classes to make them appear gifted.


Very true but many wealthy parents resent not being able to game admissions like the good old days.


The wealthy parents are bitter that they can no longer easily game admissions like the good old days but their frivolous lawsuits keep getting laughed out of court.



Yep. We are not able to "game admissions" by holding our kids to high standards in school, making them practice reading or math at home, and even sending them to classes, if needed. I also play the same "game the system" at work when I prepare for analyses I do or presentations I make.
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