Some U.S. students re-think college plans in states with abortion bans

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Anonymous wrote:Why would any woman want to risk getting pregnant in a red state, even if she wants to keep it? If you miscarry in a red state, you'll be a suspect and no doctor will want to help you out of fear of losing their license.

Not to mention, if you have a problem in your pregnancy, including an ectopic pregnancy, you want to have all your options and not have to worry that you won't get the treatment that you need.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would any woman want to risk getting pregnant in a red state, even if she wants to keep it? If you miscarry in a red state, you'll be a suspect and no doctor will want to help you out of fear of losing their license.

This is not at all what will happen. A. You will not be a suspect. B. Every doctor will do what is correct. There are lots of reasons to be upset and lots of issues. These are not among them.

Doctors will be in conflict over patient care vs possible legal issues. It is a bad situation.

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Anonymous wrote:How many abortions are these girls trying to get in the next four years?

+1000

If this was my DD's biggest concern in choosing a college, I would consider myself a massive failure as her mother.

Meanwhile, please tell your smart DD's to go right ahead and take Duke, Emory, Rice etc off of their lists!!! My rising HS junior DD would be delighted not to have the competition from these pious fools.

My daughter’s - and son’s - big concern is the treatment of women. And the attack on their personal liberties.

You want your kids to sit back while human rights are being attacked? Sounds like bad parenting.

What about the future women whose lives are now being saved? You don't care at all about them? Sounds like bad parenting to me.

You mean the unwanted fetuses?

That is beyond sick to force women to give birth to children they don’t want.

Every child deserves to be wanted.

Wow. I truly hope you are not a parent. Anyone who refers to "unwanted fetuses" has a screw or two loose.

Banning abortion doesn’t suddenly make all of those fetuses wanted.

You are forcing women to give birth to these unwanted fetuses. You aren’t “saving” them. You’re condemning them to a life of being unwanted.

This is so offensive it's hard to imagine it was posted by a grown woman. I have DC that have come out of my vagina and one that's adopted. My adopted DC was never unwanted -- his parents were too young to care for him. I know a lot of parents with adopted DC. They are not doomed to a life of being unwanted. What an idiotic thing to say.

I am pro-choice but I find so much of the pro-choice argument to be repulsive. This one is a first, though.

You speak as if all the “unwanted” kids are put up for adoption. That’s not true. Nearly half of pregnancies in the US are unplanned. A tiny percentage are given up for adoption. Many, many women have children they resent and can’t afford and keep them anyway. I work in a school and sadly I see the effects on children who are neglected, rejected, and unloved.

This, exactly. There was a reason crime dropped 18 years after Roe v. Wade.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why would any woman want to risk getting pregnant in a red state, even if she wants to keep it? If you miscarry in a red state, you'll be a suspect and no doctor will want to help you out of fear of losing their license.

This is not at all what will happen. A. You will not be a suspect. B. Every doctor will do what is correct. There are lots of reasons to be upset and lots of issues. These are not among them.

This is literally ALREADY happening. Pull you head out of your axx.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would any woman want to risk getting pregnant in a red state, even if she wants to keep it? If you miscarry in a red state, you'll be a suspect and no doctor will want to help you out of fear of losing their license.

Agree. Birth rates will decrease. Pregnancy is frought enough without that addes anxiety. Some women will just say no thanks.

This is not a thing. There will be no birth declines. No woman in a relationship is going to say no thanks.

Birth rates are already declining... absolutely no way this is going to help counteract that in any way.

Even the forced births will not really materialize to a great extent. Women have always terminated unwanted pregnancies regardless of the law and will continue to do so.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why would any woman want to risk getting pregnant in a red state, even if she wants to keep it? If you miscarry in a red state, you'll be a suspect and no doctor will want to help you out of fear of losing their license.

This is not at all what will happen. A. You will not be a suspect. B. Every doctor will do what is correct. There are lots of reasons to be upset and lots of issues. These are not among them.

I don't agree with everything on this thread but, I do think you are wrong about this.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would any woman want to risk getting pregnant in a red state, even if she wants to keep it? If you miscarry in a red state, you'll be a suspect and no doctor will want to help you out of fear of losing their license.

This is not at all what will happen. A. You will not be a suspect. B. Every doctor will do what is correct. There are lots of reasons to be upset and lots of issues. These are not among them.

I don't agree with everything on this thread but, I do think you are wrong about this.

https://www.npr.org/2022/04/10/1091927639/a-texas-woman-has-been-charged-with-murder-after-a-so-called-self-induced-aborti

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Anonymous wrote:Why would any woman want to risk getting pregnant in a red state, even if she wants to keep it? If you miscarry in a red state, you'll be a suspect and no doctor will want to help you out of fear of losing their license.

This is not at all what will happen. A. You will not be a suspect. B. Every doctor will do what is correct. There are lots of reasons to be upset and lots of issues. These are not among them.

I don't agree with everything on this thread but, I do think you are wrong about this.

Women have already been investigated for miscarriages and charged with stillbirths. This isn't a thing that might happen, it's a thing that already happens, and will likely increase when all abortions are illegal. If the law says life begins at conception, and 30-50 percent of conceptions end in miscarriage, that's a lot of miscarriages, and it's foolish to assume that that won't be weaponized. And doctors aren't going to all risk their livelihoods and their liberty to "do what is correct," and might not be able to do it, even if they wanted to. (For example: a hospital where the doctor is willing to administer an abortifacient and the dispenser won't give it out.)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why would any woman want to risk getting pregnant in a red state, even if she wants to keep it? If you miscarry in a red state, you'll be a suspect and no doctor will want to help you out of fear of losing their license.

This is not at all what will happen. A. You will not be a suspect. B. Every doctor will do what is correct. There are lots of reasons to be upset and lots of issues. These are not among them.

NP: Actually, it was accurate. What you wrote is not according to some of the new state laws. You really need to check them out.

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Anonymous wrote:How many abortions are these girls trying to get in the next four years?

+1000

If this was my DD's biggest concern in choosing a college, I would consider myself a massive failure as her mother.

Meanwhile, please tell your smart DD's to go right ahead and take Duke, Emory, Rice etc off of their lists!!! My rising HS junior DD would be delighted not to have the competition from these pious fools.

My daughter’s - and son’s - big concern is the treatment of women. And the attack on their personal liberties.

You want your kids to sit back while human rights are being attacked? Sounds like bad parenting.

What about the future women whose lives are now being saved? You don't care at all about them? Sounds like bad parenting to me.

You mean the unwanted fetuses?

That is beyond sick to force women to give birth to children they don’t want.

Every child deserves to be wanted.

Wow. I truly hope you are not a parent. Anyone who refers to "unwanted fetuses" has a screw or two loose.

Banning abortion doesn’t suddenly make all of those fetuses wanted.

You are forcing women to give birth to these unwanted fetuses. You aren’t “saving” them. You’re condemning them to a life of being unwanted.

This is so offensive it's hard to imagine it was posted by a grown woman. I have DC that have come out of my vagina and one that's adopted. My adopted DC was never unwanted -- his parents were too young to care for him. I know a lot of parents with adopted DC. They are not doomed to a life of being unwanted. What an idiotic thing to say.

I am pro-choice but I find so much of the pro-choice argument to be repulsive. This one is a first, though.

There are always exceptions. Sounds like that teen mom didn’t choose abortion. Unless she was forced into adoption by her parents?

Many women choose abortion because they don’t want the fetus. Even if these unwanted fetuses are eventually adopted they are still unwanted by their mothers.

You get more offensive with each post. Children who are adopted have a mother who wants them. A mother is the one who raises the child.

Can't believe there are actually idiots like this out there in the world, trying to convince people that abortion is logical if an "fetus is unwanted by the mother." Unbelievable. Again, I am pro-choice but these arguments are just idiotic.

There will always be a connection to the birth mother. It’s not like that just goes away, regardless of other relationships. Two members of my extended family were adopted as babies and struggle as adults with their relationship (or lack thereof) with their birth mothers. It’s heart wrenching.

Of course, many women abort because they don’t want to be pregnant, to give birth, or to be a (birth) mother. It’s not the only reason but it’s common.don’t be obtuse.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How many abortions are these girls trying to get in the next four years?

+1000

If this was my DD's biggest concern in choosing a college, I would consider myself a massive failure as her mother.

Meanwhile, please tell your smart DD's to go right ahead and take Duke, Emory, Rice etc off of their lists!!! My rising HS junior DD would be delighted not to have the competition from these pious fools.

My daughter’s - and son’s - big concern is the treatment of women. And the attack on their personal liberties.

You want your kids to sit back while human rights are being attacked? Sounds like bad parenting.

What about the future women whose lives are now being saved? You don't care at all about them? Sounds like bad parenting to me.

You mean the unwanted fetuses?

That is beyond sick to force women to give birth to children they don’t want.

Every child deserves to be wanted.

Wow. I truly hope you are not a parent. Anyone who refers to "unwanted fetuses" has a screw or two loose.

Banning abortion doesn’t suddenly make all of those fetuses wanted.

You are forcing women to give birth to these unwanted fetuses. You aren’t “saving” them. You’re condemning them to a life of being unwanted.

There is such a thing as adoption, you know. If the birth mother chooses to keep her baby, that is her choice.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How many abortions are these girls trying to get in the next four years?

+1000

If this was my DD's biggest concern in choosing a college, I would consider myself a massive failure as her mother.

Meanwhile, please tell your smart DD's to go right ahead and take Duke, Emory, Rice etc off of their lists!!! My rising HS junior DD would be delighted not to have the competition from these pious fools.

My daughter’s - and son’s - big concern is the treatment of women. And the attack on their personal liberties.

You want your kids to sit back while human rights are being attacked? Sounds like bad parenting.

What about the future women whose lives are now being saved? You don't care at all about them? Sounds like bad parenting to me.

You mean the unwanted fetuses?

That is beyond sick to force women to give birth to children they don’t want.

Every child deserves to be wanted.

Wow. I truly hope you are not a parent. Anyone who refers to "unwanted fetuses" has a screw or two loose.

Banning abortion doesn’t suddenly make all of those fetuses wanted.

You are forcing women to give birth to these unwanted fetuses. You aren’t “saving” them. You’re condemning them to a life of being unwanted.

This is so offensive it's hard to imagine it was posted by a grown woman. I have DC that have come out of my vagina and one that's adopted. My adopted DC was never unwanted -- his parents were too young to care for him. I know a lot of parents with adopted DC. They are not doomed to a life of being unwanted. What an idiotic thing to say.

I am pro-choice but I find so much of the pro-choice argument to be repulsive. This one is a first, though.

Could not agree with you more. PP's comments are beyond offensive.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How many abortions are these girls trying to get in the next four years?

+1000

If this was my DD's biggest concern in choosing a college, I would consider myself a massive failure as her mother.

Meanwhile, please tell your smart DD's to go right ahead and take Duke, Emory, Rice etc off of their lists!!! My rising HS junior DD would be delighted not to have the competition from these pious fools.

My daughter’s - and son’s - big concern is the treatment of women. And the attack on their personal liberties.

You want your kids to sit back while human rights are being attacked? Sounds like bad parenting.

What about the future women whose lives are now being saved? You don't care at all about them? Sounds like bad parenting to me.

You mean the unwanted fetuses?

That is beyond sick to force women to give birth to children they don’t want.

Every child deserves to be wanted.

Wow. I truly hope you are not a parent. Anyone who refers to "unwanted fetuses" has a screw or two loose.

Banning abortion doesn’t suddenly make all of those fetuses wanted.

You are forcing women to give birth to these unwanted fetuses. You aren’t “saving” them. You’re condemning them to a life of being unwanted.

This is so offensive it's hard to imagine it was posted by a grown woman. I have DC that have come out of my vagina and one that's adopted. My adopted DC was never unwanted -- his parents were too young to care for him. I know a lot of parents with adopted DC. They are not doomed to a life of being unwanted. What an idiotic thing to say.

I am pro-choice but I find so much of the pro-choice argument to be repulsive. This one is a first, though.

There are always exceptions. Sounds like that teen mom didn’t choose abortion. Unless she was forced into adoption by her parents?

Many women choose abortion because they don’t want the fetus. Even if these unwanted fetuses are eventually adopted they are still unwanted by their mothers.

"Fetuses" are not adopted. Babies are. But I know that's hard for you to reconcile.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How many abortions are these girls trying to get in the next four years?

+1000

If this was my DD's biggest concern in choosing a college, I would consider myself a massive failure as her mother.

Meanwhile, please tell your smart DD's to go right ahead and take Duke, Emory, Rice etc off of their lists!!! My rising HS junior DD would be delighted not to have the competition from these pious fools.

My daughter’s - and son’s - big concern is the treatment of women. And the attack on their personal liberties.

You want your kids to sit back while human rights are being attacked? Sounds like bad parenting.

What about the future women whose lives are now being saved? You don't care at all about them? Sounds like bad parenting to me.

You mean the unwanted fetuses?

That is beyond sick to force women to give birth to children they don’t want.

Every child deserves to be wanted.

Wow. I truly hope you are not a parent. Anyone who refers to "unwanted fetuses" has a screw or two loose.

Banning abortion doesn’t suddenly make all of those fetuses wanted.

You are forcing women to give birth to these unwanted fetuses. You aren’t “saving” them. You’re condemning them to a life of being unwanted.

There is such a thing as adoption, you know. If the birth mother chooses to keep her baby, that is her choice.

They are still unwanted by their birth mother. No matter who raises them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How many abortions are these girls trying to get in the next four years?

+1000

If this was my DD's biggest concern in choosing a college, I would consider myself a massive failure as her mother.

Meanwhile, please tell your smart DD's to go right ahead and take Duke, Emory, Rice etc off of their lists!!! My rising HS junior DD would be delighted not to have the competition from these pious fools.

My daughter’s - and son’s - big concern is the treatment of women. And the attack on their personal liberties.

You want your kids to sit back while human rights are being attacked? Sounds like bad parenting.

What about the future women whose lives are now being saved? You don't care at all about them? Sounds like bad parenting to me.

You mean the unwanted fetuses?

That is beyond sick to force women to give birth to children they don’t want.

Every child deserves to be wanted.

Wow. I truly hope you are not a parent. Anyone who refers to "unwanted fetuses" has a screw or two loose.

Banning abortion doesn’t suddenly make all of those fetuses wanted.

You are forcing women to give birth to these unwanted fetuses. You aren’t “saving” them. You’re condemning them to a life of being unwanted.

This is so offensive it's hard to imagine it was posted by a grown woman. I have DC that have come out of my vagina and one that's adopted. My adopted DC was never unwanted -- his parents were too young to care for him. I know a lot of parents with adopted DC. They are not doomed to a life of being unwanted. What an idiotic thing to say.

I am pro-choice but I find so much of the pro-choice argument to be repulsive. This one is a first, though.

There are always exceptions. Sounds like that teen mom didn’t choose abortion. Unless she was forced into adoption by her parents?

Many women choose abortion because they don’t want the fetus. Even if these unwanted fetuses are eventually adopted they are still unwanted by their mothers.

"Fetuses" are not adopted. Babies are. But I know that's hard for you to reconcile.

Right. That’s why I said “eventually”. After the unwanted fetuses are born then they are unwanted babies. Some available for adoption.